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What is FH2 2.26 version current state of balance?

It is well balanced
44 (20%)
Allied army is underpowerd
4 (1.8%)
German army is underpowerd
23 (10.5%)
Allied army is Overpowerd
21 (9.5%)
German army is overpowerd
6 (2.7%)
Not the Units, but the maps are imbalanced
33 (15%)
Balance problems on BOTH armies
21 (9.5%)
No opinion
12 (5.5%)
Historical accuracy>Balance
56 (25.5%)

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The current state of balance (2.26)
« on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:11 »
Ok guys. Normally i promised i shouldnt be posting for 3 days, but here is a matter i want to bring up and get it over with.

Last days, i suddently see alot of people complaining about the balance. Normally when they bring up good reasons i would love to support them in it(Like the the current desert tank balances aka allied tanks rape panzers) but the last days i have seen people complaining about the panzers in normandy being so called....underpowerd. And the entire german army in FH2 underpowerd

Not only ingame, but on the forums aswel. A few example's=
1.Tiger is no better then the panther.
2.Panthers shouldnt die one shot from the sides by the 75mm gun and 6pdr
3.17PDR shouldnt penetrate the frontal armor of panthers/tiger
4.German tanks shouldnt die in one shot from allied AT weapons (PZIV and STUG)
5.Faust should one shot shermans
6.G43 should be not limited and more present (Clearly explained in forums that
And more of these things. First i think that they must be joking, but they arent. I see alot of these guys shooting 4 tanks in their life with their Panzer, they die, and they then complain about Panzers being severly underpowerd. No kidding.

So let us make a little poll about it, Are the germans TRULY underpowerd?Is FH2 unbalanced?

I honestly think, that next to the NA balance, FH2 2.26 is one of the best balanced releases. The amount of maps wich are biased to one team have been reduced to 2(Mersa for germans, Aberdeen for allies).
About the people whining about german tanks being underpowerd they forget these things=
1.Shermans could kill PZIVs and STUGS frontally(Ingame this is not)
2.Shermans Easily penetrated the Panthers side armor and resulted in 80% of all cases a kill (Ingame it is 2 shots for the large side armor areas, and 1 shot for the tracks)
3.Not all panzers had shurzen.
4.In Normandy, the tank ratios of allied vs Germans is rarely 2:1 mostly 1.5:1. When In the normandy campaign it was 6:1
5.The player numbers are 32 vs 32. This is normal and it should be, but remeber that the allies had much more manpower, yet the ingame vehicles of the allies are just as strong as they where IRL

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-When you vote, state a short reason what you think of the balance.
-You can discuss things a bit, but dont start a flamewar and before you say something, make sure that it is based on actual facts not things you hear/see on a documentary (Like STG44's in normandy, most people know they where very rare)
-2 votes per person, as their are multiple choises

My vote is simple= FH2.26 is well balanced to acceptable levels.


Note=No flaming whatsoever, dont break the rules. I will lock the thread the moment this starts, flippy and the other mods can also lock it anytime it starts or remove it if it goes out of hand.

I want a normal discussion here guys. Not an allied bias vs Axis bias thread. I want to see this fanboyism on both sides go down because i seen some crazy people suggesting crazy things and whining when they dont get it (like that one guy on 762 wich wanted the pershing, and called us all fucktards because we said to him  it couldnt be used)
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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #1 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:19 »
I voted for both that the maps are unbalanced and that both armies are unbalanced.

I did this because balance is on a map by map basis and clearly there are some maps that are not balanced, but also there are some things that are FUBAR for both teams.

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #2 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:14 »
Panther should stand more shots to it's side, Faust should one shot shermans, Panther is better than Tiger -> Germans are underpowered

Btw, are the 3 days over already?

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #3 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:46 »
Panther should stand more shots to it's side, Faust should one shot shermans, Panther is better than Tiger -> Germans are underpowered

Btw, are the 3 days over already?
It was actually for the update that was supposed to came Friday, but since Azreal went AWOL ;)

i dint said i would be gone 3 days for Sundays update if it dint included the jagdpanther.
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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #4 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:41 »
I'd say units are mostly quite fine. But on some normandy and almost all african maps, we got some balance issues. I'd love to see africa balanced and well playable once again.

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #5 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:13 »
I DON'T LIKE BALANCE. I LIKE HISTORICAL ACCURACY.

What do I vote for?


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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #6 on: 06-07-2010, 19:07:50 »
Most of the mod is balanced. But just like Ajappat said, some African maps might need some balancing.
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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #7 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:11 »
It could use a tweak here and there *cough*returning the power of Geballte Ladung to be able to 1s1k Sherman like in 2.15*cough* but I find the mod mostly balanced.

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #8 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:30 »
"Balance" kinda sucks. Why not paint the models red and blue and make it a "Blue vs Red army" tm game and give everybody the same load out.

Balance is for pussies  ;D


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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #9 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:47 »
"Balance" kinda sucks. Why not paint the models red and blue and make it a "Blue vs Red army" tm game and give everybody the same load out.

Only if hats are involved.

I voted for the first option.
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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #10 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:35 »
"Balance" kinda sucks. Why not paint the models red and blue and make it a "Blue vs Red army" tm game and give everybody the same load out.

Only if hats are involved.

I voted for the first option.

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #11 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:53 »
"Balance" kinda sucks. Why not paint the models red and blue and make it a "Blue vs Red army" tm game and give everybody the same load out.

Balance is for pussies  ;D
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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #12 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:02 »
It seems to me that of the many of the people that exclusively play germany, their complaints are usually somewhere along the lines of "How dare the game allow a puny American tank to blow up my precious panther, it should be invincible!"

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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #13 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:39 »
Quote
Not only ingame, but on the forums aswel. A few example's=
1.Tiger is no better then the panther.
2.Panthers shouldnt die one shot from the sides by the 75mm gun and 6pdr
3.17PDR shouldnt penetrate the frontal armor of panthers/tiger
4.German tanks shouldnt die in one shot from allied AT weapons (PZIV and STUG)
5.Faust should one shot shermans
6.G43 should be not limited and more present (Clearly explained in forums that
And more of these things. First i think that they must be joking, but they arent. I see alot of these guys shooting 4 tanks in their life with their Panzer, they die, and they then complain about Panzers being severly underpowerd. No kidding.




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Re: The current state of balance (2.26)
« Reply #14 on: 06-07-2010, 20:07:55 »
It seems to me that of the many of the people that exclusively play germany, their complaints are usually somewhere along the lines of "How dare the game allow a puny American tank to blow up my precious panther, it should be invincible!"
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