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Offline Jobabb Jobabbsen

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A few questions about armors
« on: 29-04-2009, 20:04:39 »
I guess it exists somewhere in the forum, but i havent found it.

1: in the forgotten hope basic training video they mention a "free-look" key, which key is this?
2: What is the purpose of the "heat" ammunition ?
3: Is there any difference worth mentioning between the two types of normal AT-ammo ?
4: where is it most effective to hit an enemy tank?

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #1 on: 29-04-2009, 20:04:09 »
1. Left Strg
2. Better penetration on armor
3. Well, different penetration power, AT is the least powerful I guess.
4. Very different on which kind of tank, usually the top and the back.

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #2 on: 29-04-2009, 20:04:42 »
1) Default is left Ctrl.

2) HEAT ammunition is Anti Tank ammo. Highly effective against standard armour, but weak against sandbags or spaced armour. You can google it for more technical info (yes, I'm too lazy to write something you can easily find on the net :P ).

3) If you mean Pzgr, yes, the -40 one is more effective.

You can read basic info about FH2 ammotypes here: http://fhwiki.warumdarum.de/w/Basic_vehicles_and_weapons

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #3 on: 29-04-2009, 23:04:43 »
  Im really greatful for the info, thanks alot.   ;D

  (no youre not lazy , i guess im the one who was  hehe)

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #4 on: 30-04-2009, 12:04:59 »
3) sometimes PZG40 would not kill while AP kill, but PZG40 have much better penetration (so if that isn't a problem use your AP)

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #5 on: 04-05-2009, 09:05:54 »
4: where is it most effective to hit an enemy tank?

the other pretty much cleared up the first 3 questions so here the last
the weakest spot on MOST tanks is the Rear followed by the sides. some tanks have higher  rear armor than sides but most tanks have it in this order of "reachable" target zones  TOP > REAR > SIDES > FRONT!

many tanks also have weak-spots, spots where there armor is weaker compared the the area around them. these are mostly vision slits, hatches & doors, commander copulas Hull-MG slots etc. not every tanks has them and they are not in the same spots.
for example the M3 Grant has hatches on his sides, engaging the flanks of a grant with a panzer II is pointless even with his pzgr40 special ammo. However if you hit the hatch on the flank with the special ammo you can do some serious damage.
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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #6 on: 04-05-2009, 12:05:01 »
4: where is it most effective to hit an enemy tank?

investigate it yourself, even frontal armour often have soft spots. but generally strongest spot is gun>turret(frontal)>frontal armour>side armour>top armour>threads>back>specific soft spots


so avoid hitting the turret if you are unsure.
« Last Edit: 04-05-2009, 12:05:48 by General_Henry »

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #7 on: 04-05-2009, 19:05:21 »
YEA i KNOCKED OUT a tiger1 with a sherman in the back.
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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #8 on: 05-05-2009, 05:05:51 »
Ok????? you want a cookie or something? ::)

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #9 on: 06-05-2009, 19:05:51 »
sure  ;D ;) ;)
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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #10 on: 11-05-2009, 21:05:28 »
I also did that, i drove inside a crater outside mareth, the tiger drove past me, i first killed 4 men with HE ammo and then the tiger ^^
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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #11 on: 23-05-2009, 06:05:31 »
In Case you didn't know HEAT stands for High Explosive Anti Tank. That really sums it up right there, but I will go into more detail. HEAT rounds are good at piercing tank armor and packing a large explosion behind it all. So instead of just having a tank getting a hole in it by AT rounds, it can now have a hole in it and be completely blown apart by HEAT rounds.

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #12 on: 26-05-2009, 06:05:55 »
In Case you didn't know HEAT stands for High Explosive Anti Tank. That really sums it up right there, but I will go into more detail. HEAT rounds are good at piercing tank armor and packing a large explosion behind it all. So instead of just having a tank getting a hole in it by AT rounds, it can now have a hole in it and be completely blown apart by HEAT rounds.

I don't think that's how HEAT rounds work.  If I understand correctly, HEAT rounds (or shaped charges) are rounds/charges with the explosive material hollowed out in the shape of a cone.  The cone is lined with a softer metal (I think copper?).  The round is fired with the "open" end of the cone towards the target (it's not usually literally open, theres usually some sort of case or spacer in front of it).  When the warhead hits the target, it explodes.  The pressure and heat from the explosion instantly melts the copper, which (because of the shape of the cone) forms a thin "jet" of molten metal than can pierce tank armor.  Once the armor is pierced, the jet of molten metal (and pieces of the armor) enter the tank and kill the crew.  The tank shouldn't be "blown apart" unless the round happens to hit the ammo storage.

I think that's correct, anyway.  Some other guys are probably more knowledgeable than I am on the subject.
 
 

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #13 on: 26-05-2009, 08:05:16 »
you're right ion.

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Re: A few questions about armors
« Reply #14 on: 26-05-2009, 08:05:09 »
And what about APC rounds?


There where APC rounds IIRC...