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Re: Post something happy that happened to you
« Reply #3990 on: 11-05-2014, 01:05:31 »

you seem to agreed than its good in a FREEDOM DEMOCRACY for ANARCHIST teachers to call students CLOUNDS because they fear such students will take over the power and kill everyone - how democratic is that suposed to be?
Truly there is nothing worse than to be compared to a clound.

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« Reply #3991 on: 11-05-2014, 02:05:46 »

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Something happy:
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« Reply #3992 on: 11-05-2014, 07:05:52 »
See Damaso, you would have to suppress people's freedom massively in order to push your ideas through. Basically, you advertise complete and entire government control. That is simply undesirable. See, you would have to weaken the people in order to empower the government, thus restricting freedom of speech and expression, be it directly or indirectly. Anything that gives the citizens of your nation a guarantee for the protection of their individual rights and freedoms, like the right to keep and bear arms, would have to be banned by you and your administration. No one wants to live in a nanny state. 'Free stuff' is what the welfare line dwellers yearn for, those people who feel entitled to get everything for nothing. They are the menace of every society. Even Christ told us in Phillipians that we dost not render any help to these individuals. However, these would be your primary base of supporters. See, rich people hire and poor people work for them in order to achieve a certain level of wealth as well. That is capitalism simplified into one sentence. Currently those bastards are wanting to set up a minimum wage over here and turn this into a semi-communistic nation. Do you know what will happen? Many people will get fired and those already unemployed are doomed to spend their lives in poverty and despair, since the employers cannot afford paying such high wages. Also, capitalists are not evil. I am one, and responsibility grows proportionally with wealth. I use my money to help others in times of need, as do many, if not most other 'capitalists' that I know. I just came back from work, more dead than alive. In a few hours, I shall recommence with my daily duties again. Currently, I am working myself into insanity, but I do take great and sincere pleasure in earning my own money. I dearly appreciate your good intentions, but not everyone will deem them worthy of implementation - many like me would actually fight to the end to prevent their implementation.
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Re: Post something happy that happened to you
« Reply #3993 on: 11-05-2014, 09:05:24 »
Something happy:
Today someone on server #2 told me he understands why I banned Damaso.

Oh I fully understand you now. I also understand why he has been banned here several times.

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« Reply #3994 on: 11-05-2014, 10:05:27 »
Here is some facts:

Average Indonesian GDP: USD 2,300/person/year

Try to ask Germany to sent everyone here at least a decent VW Polo Bluemotion. At least, it will only buy the metal alloy slab from China Baogang Steel FOB. And that's communist cheap already, not to mention German labour to assemble the stuff and German engine, German electronics added.

Clearly, your ideology lacks depth, facts, and basic knowledge about general things like economy, science, biology, well, basically everything. That's why I ask you to take school seriously first, before thinking highly about your idea.

You are just deceiving yourself about how good your grand scheme could be. Hearing your own voice in your own mind, guiding you on how to look on things, based on your traumatic experience in life. I know this, because we all used to have pipe dream as well, we all do, because it changes overtime.

Each of us has different fantasy, you living in laid back Portugal, dreamed of short working hours. And because I live in a third-world nowhere shithole (made third world, because people here pretty much ignorant about outside world), ruled by series of presidents with militaristic background, I have a very differing point of view. Thankfully, I did not pursue that stupid grand scheme, otherwise we will all be worshiping militarism.

First of all, just because you have good intention, it does not mean that you will do other people any good. Many dictators believed that as well, including Stalin, until he decided to kill 20 million of his own people, because they disagree or become quite dangerous to his plan.

Things are impossible, like nobody can only work like 2-4 hours per day and having fun for the rest of the day. If you want to know farming, fishing, or heck, being taxi driver, or even prostitute, go ask and interview them! You cannot be silently assuming that everybody want or need the same thing. Go talk to stranger you would lead someday, you need to be people too.

Moreover, there is virtue in every ideas, like socialism, communism, capitalism, marxism, liberalism, conservatism. You clearly can't have the good sides of all ideologies in one. Slowly, you'll learn why.

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« Reply #3995 on: 11-05-2014, 10:05:16 »
Clearly, your ideology lacks depth, facts, and basic knowledge about general things like economy, science, biology, well, basically everything. That's why I ask you to take school seriously first, before thinking highly about your idea.

Give me problems (yeah: tell me wich problems could i and everyone else face once the Climaxist state was instaured besides all that anti-freedom stuff and the risk of bein assasinated by some extremist-capitalist?)

If you give me a problem wich is totaly 100% impossible to solve, then i will halt my political carreer, and become rich or something else... but if i got a solution for such problems, then i shall remain thinking like i am rigth now, and keep up on this.

Just make me organized questions  so i can reply to each one of them properly.
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Re: Post something happy that happened to you
« Reply #3996 on: 11-05-2014, 11:05:25 »
It's half naked people on boats. That's all.
Here in Finland we call that "summer".

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Re: Post something happy that happened to you
« Reply #3997 on: 11-05-2014, 11:05:26 »


That meme is suposed to be about unlucky... i dont think a rich guy or an dictator is unlucky for that...

(still waiting for the problems and the organized questions - if there is nothing impossible to solve or no questions at all, then its green ligth for me to keep up.)
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« Reply #3998 on: 11-05-2014, 11:05:46 »
Give me problems (yeah: tell me wich problems could i and everyone else face once the Climaxist state was instaured besides all that anti-freedom stuff and the risk of bein assasinated by some extremist-capitalist?)

Well, you don't need to fear anything, because in your country, people are educated to such level that they can distinguish worthy opinion and things to be laughed at.

Nevermind extremist capitalist/fascist, first of all, the grammar nazis will kill you first. Then, on a more serious note, the labours, professionals, workers, will probably target you first, because of you mocking their job.  probably some random apolitical guy, because you just easily pissed him off before you pitched him your idea.

Regarding question, you haven't answered Musti's question:

And now let's get back to the workers, despite the fact it would take them years to finish a single project, they are supposed to get free food, provided by who exactly? Farmers is the answer, and here's the funny part: Farmer's can't work just 2 hours a day, They just can't, if they did, nothing would get done, NOTHING. And if farmers don't do shit, no food = starvation

First: Not everyone would have the same shcedules - but they would be surely reduced acordying to the jobs. ALSO, i said 2 DAYS during a WEEK (not 2 HOURS in a DAY!)

Second: I told that before: THE GOVERMENT WOULD WORK ON TECNOLOGY IN ORDER TO REPLACE AS MUCH MANPOWER AS IT CAN! SPECIALY OVER FARMS, INDUSTRIES, CONSTRUCTION, ECT... since uneployment is not a problem, and the more machines could replace the human work, the better.

2 days a week? That's even worse than 2 hours a day. Do you know how much time it takes to assemble a PC? Let alone growing crops. Do you know how long does it take for a corn to grow from seed to harvest?

You don't answer with:
"Government would work on technology"
Do you know what kind of machine used to plough the field? How to harvest corns with average people coming for only 2 days a week? Do you know the window period for harvesting corns?

Dictator Mao Zedong thinks the same, he thought China can become industrious nation, independent from decadent West and Capitalist pigs, who keeps looking down on China. Then, ignoring metallurgy science, he instructed everyone to have a backyard furnace to increase steel production output. Now, good luck on quality control! The result is poor quality steel that makes Chinese bridges and buildings unsafe.

You may ask, where is the stupid Chinese scientist? My Educracy branch should have educate enough smart metallurgist. But, since Mao is a dictator, he has been surrounded by ass-kissers and yes-man ever since. He loved it so much that he simply don't like people who challenge his idea. Much like you, Henrique, dismissing your critics here, questioning the stupid parts of your idea.

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If you give me a problem wich is totaly 100% impossible to solve, then i will halt my political carreer, and become rich or something else... but if i got a solution for such problems, then i shall remain thinking like i am rigth now, and keep up on this.

You are talking as if getting rich is easy. There are many people in this forum, working their asses all day long, and still earn less than your Mom to upkeep a children. In other countries (such as mine), I earn much-much less than your family, despite working on prestigious office location.

You don't see the problem? No wonder everyone is so negative towards you. Even geniuses always admit that they have problem with their own ideas, including Karl Marx himself.

Do you know what is Portugal's main produce? Do you know how much value it generates? Do you know how many people that sector employ?

How do you contain religious people that disagrees with you (you can try that with ksl94)?

I'll spare you from extremist Muslims example. At your current state, you are not good enough to handle such massive fundamental problem.

You still have a very very long way to go here. I thought finishing school would be enough for you to talk on level fields. But now, I think you should go to work too before talking things you clearly have no idea about.

Then, please join political party. Become their candidate and realize your ideas there. Try to persuade them, see if they are good enough! If they don't accept it, join another, keep doing it until you either change your mind or succeed.

I give you another advice, your current asset is your good looks, don't try too much on your ideas/intelligence/delusions at first. And then, brush off your hate for football. As a politician, you'll learn why you need that more than you need the police.
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« Reply #3999 on: 11-05-2014, 12:05:30 »
Give me problems (yeah: tell me wich problems could i and everyone else face once the Climaxist state was instaured besides all that anti-freedom stuff and the risk of bein assasinated by some extremist-capitalist?)

Well, you don't need to fear anything, because in your country, people are educated to such level that they can distinguish worthy opinion and things to be laughed at.

Nevermind extremist capitalist/fascist, first of all, the grammar nazis will kill you first. Then, on a more serious note, the labours, professionals, workers, will probably target you first, because of you mocking their job.  probably some random apolitical guy, because you just easily pissed him off before you pitched him your idea.

Regarding question, you haven't answered Musti's question:

And now let's get back to the workers, despite the fact it would take them years to finish a single project, they are supposed to get free food, provided by who exactly? Farmers is the answer, and here's the funny part: Farmer's can't work just 2 hours a day, They just can't, if they did, nothing would get done, NOTHING. And if farmers don't do shit, no food = starvation

First: Not everyone would have the same shcedules - but they would be surely reduced acordying to the jobs. ALSO, i said 2 DAYS during a WEEK (not 2 HOURS in a DAY!)

Second: I told that before: THE GOVERMENT WOULD WORK ON TECNOLOGY IN ORDER TO REPLACE AS MUCH MANPOWER AS IT CAN! SPECIALY OVER FARMS, INDUSTRIES, CONSTRUCTION, ECT... since uneployment is not a problem, and the more machines could replace the human work, the better.

2 days a week? That's even worse than 2 hours a day. Do you know how much time it takes to assemble a PC? Let alone growing crops. Do you know how long does it take for a corn to grow from seed to harvest?
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Its an Educracy.. And obviously, i will not (and its even impossible) to lead alone... i will have people on the goverment assets than shall worry themselfes about the best ways to make a "corn to grow from seed to harvest" at their fastest way, by using tecnology than the goverment can provide. You will not see farmers anymore. Instead, you see atleast 1 guy monitorizig the machines in order for them to not get screwed up (and then you undertand why its possible for people to work 2 days a week and still have a big farm growing up winout a single man shoveling the sand.)

But you are rigth about ass kissers and yes-man: they can screw me up. Because the one who is leading cant hear the all of 10 million people one by one, but he can hear the top-officers who are in a much smaller number... and what if those top-officers fake all the information to the leader, in order to make him think than everyting is alrigth with his people? true that, so i shall not trust my top officers too much, and get some aknowlege of the people's point of view under my rule so i make sure than there isnt any missunderstanding.

(so yeah: i will keep my eyes open about that, and trying to get as much aknowlege as i can about the human resourses than i will have.)

About the rich part: As much stupid as this seems, i can get myself easily more rich than normal people like you who do their honest job everyday, and are against any communist-climaxist treath. My mother is an prostitute by her own - she has his own house, and she has lady's working for her as well, she also has contacts and knews ways to put me on a job easily - she knows guys who can even give me an asset driving a rescue chopter in a hospital, or start building my own random bussiness.

Unfair isnt it? how can a "stupid ignorant" kid who knows shit about life, have the easily oportunity to get rich, wile other people need to study hard and do their work? I end up good afterards: i can be eigther an leader who is aiming for the good of the mankind (besides all the controversy) or i can just be another rich bastard who has FREEDOM to do whatever he wants under the law in order  to be even more wealthy.

And then you apear: bitching against any communist treath, but at the same time thinking than you can someday be rich by keeping the constant work - and having a faith in the Capitalism system for the mankind. (not than its impossible to be rich tough - but its way more easy by my side than by your side, unless you got some background)

Any more questions? (btw: make the questions objective and exacly, so i may reply to you the same way)

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     Nº1 - What will you do with Religion?
     Nº2 - 2 + 2?
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     reply1 - let them alone.
     Reply2 - 4

Ect... make the questions like that winout arguing text, so it can be easier for us to understand eachother. if i have no reply to each question you make, then i shall retreat from my political thinking.
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« Reply #4000 on: 11-05-2014, 12:05:34 »
Holy shit, reading the last two pages I realized there's really no helping you. You simply went full retard, you just won't ever listen to anyone who doesn't tell you how awesome your idea is. I'm no fortune-teller, but I can promise you the moment you start to try enforce these bullshit ideas of yours, you bet your ass someone will take you out. And I doubt your skull will stop that bullet. You talk about extremist capitalists and YET you're pretty much the only extremist here. Oh the irony, I can't get enough of it! ;D

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« Reply #4001 on: 11-05-2014, 12:05:00 »
Exact question:
Did you already consider where the idea of wages is coming from in a capitalist system?
Wages are the compensation the employee receives. In most cases, this is a share in the extra wealth created by his employment in that function, minues a part for the leader of the project who runs the greatest risk. Yet the share is kapt fair in most sectors, or the employee will work for himself and become a new competitor of the employer.
Why is the quantity of a wage important? To see what you can buy for you wage ==> importance of prices. Prices are set by availability and demand.

Now, back to your system in relation with outside capitalism. A road worker, Carlo, who works 2 days per week and works, let say 6 hours during those days, wants a Ferrarri, an Aston Martin, a Jaguar and a castle with an olympic pool and a cinema. I think i'm very optimistic if a put a price tag of 10 million Euro on this.

Now what will happen:
let's say Carlo creates 1000 euro wealth for your nation this way (this number is already prety optimistic, but dispute it if you want. I think this is an optimistic estimate, and then I didn't even yet take into account that fact that people will work a lot less hard since they don't benefit personally fom working harder). Carlo doesn't get money, the governement gets the wealth and redistributes it to someone who wants something. Carlo wants to have the things mentioned above, so he can be like his colleagues, who also have these 3 cars and a similar castle.
The countries outside Portugal, will notice that suddenly, they have orders to send 3 million Ferrarris to Portugal. What will Ferrarri do? They can't produce enough Ferrarris in time, so they will raise the price. But the demand stays the same! So what does Ferrarri do? Raise the price. Demand is still the same, so? Raise once more. In no time, certain car types will cost several millions, since your population doesn't feel the impact of external price raises. Your econmy will bleed dead in no time.
Now, let's say All the business you order with, have bad managers, don't care capitalism and have more than enough production to supply all of your citizens (quod non). Carlo produces 1000 euro wealth to you nation per month. At current prices, he still wants over 500 000 euro in cars. This means he would have to work about 42 years before he created the wealth that would be sufficient to buy these cars. Then, he didn't yet work for his castle, the food he eats (will be expensive food, since he doesn't case the price of food anyway, he gets what he wants), the oil he uses in his expensive cars (yes, sportscars waste oil like hell) and even more important, he will want other cars before those 42 years have passed. Some cars will have broken down and Carlo will want a better car as replacement.

So the main question: How will you make wealth like magic, in order to get the needed goods to satisfy the wishes of your population?
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« Reply #4002 on: 11-05-2014, 13:05:41 »
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Its an Educracy.. And obviously, i will not (and its even impossible) to lead alone... i will have people on the goverment assets than shall worry themselfes about the best ways to make a "corn to grow from seed to harvest" at their fastest way, by using tecnology than the goverment can provide. You will not see farmers anymore. Instead, you see atleast 1 guy monitorizig the machines in order for them to not get screwed up (and then you undertand why its possible for people to work 2 days a week and still have a big farm growing up winout a single man shoveling the sand.)

That is not answering Henrique...

You have no idea how to do farming do you? How are you supposed to trust your agriculture minister or sort if you want to totally tell the 30-years experienced farmer that they will have 2 days a week to work?

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     Nº1 - What will you do with Religion?
     Nº2 - 2 + 2?
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     reply1 - let them alone.
     Reply2 - 4

Clearly Henrique you are totally clueless, you forgot that the vehemently religious people doesn't want to be lead by a prostitute's son. Because, that is still an issue for those conservative people. They will actively fight against you. Now, have you think of this?

I don't want to tell you what the Muslim says about prostitute. Your life experience is shitty enough.

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About the rich part: As much stupid as this seems, i can get myself easily more rich than normal people like you who do their honest job everyday, and are against any communist-climaxist treath. My mother is an prostitute by her own - she has his own house, and she has lady's working for her as well, she also has contacts and knews ways to put me on a job easily - she knows guys who can even give me an asset driving a rescue chopter in a hospital, or start building my own random bussiness.

Unfair isnt it? how can a "stupid ignorant" kid who knows shit about life, have the easily oportunity to get rich, wile other people need to study hard and do their work? I end up good afterards: i can be eigther an leader who is aiming for the good of the mankind (besides all the controversy) or i can just be another rich bastard who has FREEDOM to do whatever he wants under the law in order  to be even more wealthy.

And then you apear: bitching against any communist treath, but at the same time thinking than you can someday be rich by keeping the constant work - and having a faith in the Capitalism system for the mankind. (not than its impossible to be rich tough - but its way more easy by my side than by your side, unless you got some background)

First of all, do not assume that all people are the same as you.

Again, not all poor people are unhappy. There are beggars out there, who can fake his misery all day long and finally collect enough money to buy a car (it happened here). These people like money, but don't want to work. Then, there are tribesmen out there, who can't be dealt with, since they refuse progress and technology. These people don't know money, but they love work and it is part of their culture.

Moreover, when living in some shithole, who knows? We all get connections, my uncle is filthy rich with all mega factories and crazy business he owns. I decided not to go his path and rejected his offers. I chose my own paths and work my way up, on my own. Because, there is more into life than just money.

In here, working as a cashier won't get you enough cash to rent a place to sleep. But my job can provide me with all that cozy stuff plus a charity account, a car loan, a maid, and a driver. Yet, it is still much lower than what Bouras earned in his country working as cashier.

Now you, have you chosen to be wise?

Nobody tells you to stop, but to be back after you get wiser.

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« Reply #4003 on: 11-05-2014, 13:05:00 »
Exact question:
Did you already consider where the idea of wages is coming from in a capitalist system?
Wages are the compensation the employee receives. In most cases, this is a share in the extra wealth created by his employment in that function, minues a part for the leader of the project who runs the greatest risk. Yet the share is kapt fair in most sectors, or the employee will work for himself and become a new competitor of the employer.
Why is the quantity of a wage important? To see what you can buy for you wage ==> importance of prices. Prices are set by availability and demand.

Now, back to your system in relation with outside capitalism. A road worker, Carlo, who works 2 days per week and works, let say 6 hours during those days, wants a Ferrarri, an Aston Martin, a Jaguar and a castle with an olympic pool and a cinema. I think i'm very optimistic if a put a price tag of 10 million Euro on this.

Now what will happen:
let's say Carlo creates 1000 euro wealth for your nation this way (this number is already prety optimistic, but dispute it if you want. I think this is an optimistic estimate, and then I didn't even yet take into account that fact that people will work a lot less hard since they don't benefit personally fom working harder). Carlo doesn't get money, the governement gets the wealth and redistributes it to someone who wants something. Carlo wants to have the things mentioned above, so he can be like his colleagues, who also have these 3 cars and a similar castle.
The countries outside Portugal, will notice that suddenly, they have orders to send 3 million Ferrarris to Portugal. What will Ferrarri do? They can't produce enough Ferrarris in time, so they will raise the price. But the demand stays the same! So what does Ferrarri do? Raise the price. Demand is still the same, so? Raise once more. In no time, certain car types will cost several millions, since your population doesn't feel the impact of external price raises. Your econmy will bleed dead in no time.
Now, let's say All the business you order with, have bad managers, don't care capitalism and have more than enough production to supply all of your citizens (quod non). Carlo produces 1000 euro wealth to you nation per month. At current prices, he still wants over 500 000 euro in cars. This means he would have to work about 42 years before he created the wealth that would be sufficient to buy these cars. Then, he didn't yet work for his castle, the food he eats (will be expensive food, since he doesn't case the price of food anyway, he gets what he wants), the oil he uses in his expensive cars (yes, sportscars waste oil like hell) and even more important, he will want other cars before those 42 years have passed. Some cars will have broken down and Carlo will want a better car as replacement.

So the main question: How will you make wealth like magic, in order to get the needed goods to satisfy the wishes of your population?

Simple: we start to own an economical empire outside of Portugal.

The goverment would hold business outside Portugal, and the income of those business would come rigth to the pockets of the Portuguese nation. Previous owners who would sell their business to us would get themselfes pretty satisfied with the payment/gains than the Portuguese Goverment would give to them. Also, the income of the tourism would be good to us as well. AND we could also make some exportations as well for very low prices but high quality.

As you can see, with an Climaxist system, the Goverment doesnt waste his money with his people (no need to pay for people who dont need money anymore in order to have what they want) and so, the goverment wouldnt have expenses (exept for buying the goods than the population requests from outside, and investing in such economical empire). ALSO, the goods of such business would come free to the country
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Portuguese goverment buyed Ferrari - so Ferrari cars will be free to our people, and we could easily put ferrari factories in Portugal in order to the production satisfies the needs of the population. Hoewer, some products migh be restrict as well: at the first day Climaxism is implemented, is impossible for everyone to have 3 ferraris at the start - but if it keeps up the growt, it will reach a point in wich we can make that possible.

In few moths/years, our goverment could pay the debths we already have and find it impossible to pay in a capitalism system, and we could at the same time keep increasing the quality of life of the people.

(Oh and btw: you spoke about Oil... well, due to obvious reasons, Portugal will work on the development of veicles (as well as sport cars) who can actually work with no Oil (you know: eletronic ones wich the big oil bussinessman dont apreciate at all.)

I hope that answered you.. any more questions? (if you have any doubth, make me know)

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« Reply #4004 on: 11-05-2014, 13:05:17 »
I love you, you're awesome, like a 3 year old Stalin. Weirdest conversation ever, I love it.

Continuing, And who would make those Ferraris in those factories, and please, don't say TECHNOLOGY, because that's not an answer, thats just you being retarded, and you obviously have no idea about pretty much anything, not even talking about making Ferraris.

And why the hell would anyone want an electric car/ or even worse a sports car. (not electronic god damn it)

Someone change the threads name to "talking with 3 year old dictators" please.
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