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Offline psykfallet

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italian stuff
« on: 22-02-2010, 17:02:50 »
Breda modello 35 20mm AA gun used by Italians, Brits and Aussies. Same gun as in the L6/40, was used on some Saharinas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannone-Mitragliera_da_20/65_modello_35_%28Breda%29

Solothurn S18/1000
already in game on the Saharina, how about taking it and making it a deployable kit as standard Italian AT-Rifle?


Rifle grenade attachment
http://miles.forumcommunity.net/?t=11237370
« Last Edit: 22-02-2010, 17:02:05 by psykfallet »



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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #1 on: 22-02-2010, 17:02:27 »
More italian stuff = better.

Unfortunately italians and their equipment arent in priority right now. Maybe in the distant future.

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #2 on: 22-02-2010, 17:02:50 »
List of things truly missing in FH2's Italian army

Tanks=

Carre Armato M11/39
Carre Armato M14/41 (Common in late africa, good for El alamein)

Armoured cars=
Autoblinda 41
Lince armoured car

SP Guns=
Semovente da 75/18
Semovente M 41M da 90/53

Artillery=
Brixia Model 35 (45MM high rate of fire Mortar)
Cannone da 47/32 M35 (Should be main AT gun, it wassent great but usefull against both Cruiser/light tanks and Infantery)
Cannone da 75/32 modello 37( Could be main field gun)
Cannone da 75/46 C.A. modello 34 (Dual purpose gun, not really comparable in firepower to the Flak18)
Cannone da 90/53 (The best Dual purpose gun of World war 2)

These where the common Italian equipment of WW2.
I suggested these things before, and Flippy is right. Their are higher priority things first
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #3 on: 22-02-2010, 18:02:43 »
Yep, those are all things we want, but just currently won't have for awhile :P

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #4 on: 22-02-2010, 18:02:55 »
I'd love to see even a stationary version of the S18/1000 that could be placed like stationary mgs.  A deployable version would be sweet.

But ultimatly, the most pressing things for the italians would be a truck, an AT gun and a [sniper] carcano carbine (note, not a short rifle as in the mod currently).

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #5 on: 22-02-2010, 18:02:01 »
Breda modello 35 20mm AA gun used by Italians, Brits and Aussies. Same gun as in the L6/40, was used on some Saharinas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannone-Mitragliera_da_20/65_modello_35_%28Breda%29

Solothurn S18/1000
already in game on the Saharina, how about taking it and making it a deployable kit as standard Italian AT-Rifle?


Rifle grenade attachment
http://miles.forumcommunity.net/?t=11237370
Pretty good that you found those Italian rifle grenades

They should be added aswel, but imo, to balance, for pity sake decrease the explosive radius of the BOMBA MANO 35. 36 Grams of Explosives shouldnt be this strong  (For comparision, the Mills had 300G of Barantol)
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #6 on: 22-02-2010, 18:02:21 »
They should be added aswel, but imo, to balance, for pity sake decrease the explosive radius of the BOMBA MANO 35. 36 Grams of Explosives shouldnt be this strong  (For comparision, the Mills had 300G of Barantol)
Make sure that is the contents of the right one.  There were three types of grenade, the FH2 version is the one ade by O.T.O.

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #7 on: 22-02-2010, 18:02:44 »
I'd love to see even a stationary version of the S18/1000 that could be placed like stationary mgs.  A deployable version would be sweet.

But ultimatly, the most pressing things for the italians would be a truck, an AT gun and a [sniper] carcano carbine (note, not a short rifle as in the mod currently).

IIRC, the italians never used sniper rifles.

And the mills had 70 grams, not 300, afaik.  However, due to its heavy construction it would use much of its blast potential on actually rupturing the metal, thus causing a smaller explosion, while the OTO grenade would use very little of its blast potential.
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #8 on: 22-02-2010, 19:02:42 »
They should be added aswel, but imo, to balance, for pity sake decrease the explosive radius of the BOMBA MANO 35. 36 Grams of Explosives shouldnt be this strong  (For comparision, the Mills had 300G of Barantol)
Make sure that is the contents of the right one.  There were three types of grenade, the FH2 version is the one ade by O.T.O.
Bombo a Mano O.T.O where produced in 2 versions=One with 36G of Explosive content and 63.FH2 uses the 36G one

@Vonmudra A mills bomb weights 760 Grams. I know it, i held one from WW2. Imo they barely or even not have any explosive advantege over the Stielgranate, wich only used 120G of explosive and dint had shrapnel( Or if that shrapnel jacket was fitted)
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #9 on: 22-02-2010, 19:02:53 »
Wrong, the stick nade had 165 grams, and was designed as an offensive grenade, essentially a form of a flashbang that could kill if it was close enough via overpressure.  This would be especially effective in enclosed areas, where even people in cover in the room or such would be killed by the blast wave.  I've been over this before.

And nope, mills had 70 grams, and due to heavy construction, it indeed had a small blast, but could kill at farther range due to shrapnel.
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #10 on: 22-02-2010, 20:02:14 »
If we're being specific here, its not shrapnel, but fragments ;)

Anyways, I have seen a pic of a carcano cavelry carbine with an italian scope on it.
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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #11 on: 22-02-2010, 20:02:03 »
Haha, true ;)

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #12 on: 22-02-2010, 20:02:10 »
Italien need this: http://shop.mcronse.be/images/webshop/BRM35008.jpg
Motorcycle and a map about operation compass

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #13 on: 22-02-2010, 20:02:51 »
I want these so much more than M36 Jackson or that sort of cardboard. More Italian maps and more Italian guns. Would be nice if devs made one Italian map and 3 Normandy maps instead of 4 Normandy maps :).

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Re: italian stuff
« Reply #14 on: 23-02-2010, 01:02:58 »
Since the solothurn is already in, it wouldnt require as much work to add it methinks.


Italian trucks, they had so damn many so I'm not sure wich one was most common.

 Fiat 626





blueprints: http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/cars/fiat/24587/


Lancia SPA 38




Here we have the italian AA gun mounted on the Chevy truck (same as LRDG) as an early mobile AA

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