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Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« on: 23-01-2010, 06:01:21 »
Now we all love the faust as much as we hate it. But I hate it a little more in FH2. It's effectiveness disappoints me and I wonder if the penetration is realistic. Many times I hit a Sherman in the side with the Panzerfaust but it would damage it only up to 90%, or around the point the tank starts burning. Either with, with BF2's crappy damage system, the tank is still fully capable of doing everything even if it'd be destroyed until 95%. This is terribly wrong. So you lost your only faust, are open on the field, still stunned that it didn't kill the tank, and the driver just rolls his turret around and shoots you in the face. I used to think the faust was like.. almost invincible against light-medium armour! And my targets weren't moving.

Also.. can someone please explain to me which of the three holes I need to use to aim with. What do they represent and how can I estimate the distance anyway? With its incredibly short range you want to be really sure you hit it.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #1 on: 23-01-2010, 16:01:07 »
If uyou hit Shermans to the sides when they have tanktracks attached, they shouldn't blow up, as the added tracks are extra armour. To kill those Shermans with one shot, you have to shoot them in the back.

About which three holes are you talking? I have only one hole to look through and it looks like two triangles upright with their points towards each other. Aiming differs by distance, so there isn't one thing you should remember and then do that everytime.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #2 on: 23-01-2010, 16:01:10 »
"Three holes" are in PIAT, not Panzerfaust, where they are the range to target in yards - 50, 100 or 150 as indicated on the sight itself.

Panzerfaust sight - the horizontal line - seems to be zeroed in at about half the range (15 m). So if you have managed to crawl to point-blank range and then aim the sights above the target "just in case", you will overshoot.

As to how to estimate distance.... trial & error and practice will teach you that. Do look through the sights whenever your SL's "command flare" is in sight, since you get the range information with it ;)

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #3 on: 23-01-2010, 23:01:58 »
Faust is a one hit kill on sides and rear of any allied tank cept the Churchill, and the Achilles, and the Achilles is only due to the current bug where it has about 3000 hit points, when it should only have around 500....  If you hit the track/sandbag armour, it functions the same as the schurzen on the Panzer 4.  Now, if you hit an unprotected sherman, and it still didn't die, then that's probably more due to server lag then the faust not actually killing.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #4 on: 23-01-2010, 23:01:36 »
The sandbags/appliqué armor does not work like schurzen.  Schurzen nullifies HEAT weapons, the Sandbags/tank tracks just make the armor thicker, making the round do slightly less damage (enough to not 1 hit kill).
 

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #5 on: 24-01-2010, 00:01:04 »
Take note that firing at the frontal mantlet or turret armor with the panzerfaust will NOT kill the sherman, no mather what version

I did this tens of times, and i always recieved a 75MM HE Shell as answer
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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #6 on: 24-01-2010, 01:01:03 »
The front armour of the Sherman is just thick enough to cause it to not die instantly from panzerfaust warheads.  The sandbags I think are totally invulnerable.  The applique armour on the sides as well as the tank track armour counts as the same thickness as the frontal armour.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #7 on: 24-01-2010, 08:01:42 »
The sandbags/appliqué armor does not work like schurzen.  Schurzen nullifies HEAT weapons, the Sandbags/tank tracks just make the armor thicker, making the round do slightly less damage (enough to not 1 hit kill).

That's real life, I'm refering to ingame, they do the same thing.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #8 on: 24-01-2010, 11:01:08 »
He's right though. Unprotected shermans don't (always) die from Fausts punched to their sides. I can't really tell why, if it is not for a hitbox error.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #9 on: 24-01-2010, 12:01:13 »
Well a sherman has 65MM frontal armor

A panther has 40MM rear armor

Fire a panzerfaust at the Panther, it will SURVIVE
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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #10 on: 24-01-2010, 20:01:59 »
The sandbags/appliqué armor does not work like schurzen.  Schurzen nullifies HEAT weapons, the Sandbags/tank tracks just make the armor thicker, making the round do slightly less damage (enough to not 1 hit kill).

That's real life, I'm refering to ingame, they do the same thing.

The one or two sandbags might work like that ingame, but the appliqué armor and tank tracks definitely DO NOT nullify HEAT rounds entirely ingame.
 

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #11 on: 24-01-2010, 20:01:50 »
Well a sherman has 65MM frontal armor

A panther has 40MM rear armor

Fire a panzerfaust at the Panther, it will SURVIVE

Panther's rear armor is also heavily sloped, so it might be on par with the Sherman's front armor.
 

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #12 on: 24-01-2010, 20:01:42 »
Well a sherman has 65MM frontal armor

A panther has 40MM rear armor

Fire a panzerfaust at the Panther, it will SURVIVE

Also, the Panther, IIRC, has been beefed up by the devs so that it has a tougher feel, thus why the sherman doesn't kill it with side or rear shots in one shit.

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #13 on: 24-01-2010, 23:01:42 »
Uhm, today I was playing Lüttich and I took down a Panther coming to Farm straight from the spawn. With one shot, sitting in regular M4A1. ???

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Re: Effective Use of the Panzerfaust
« Reply #14 on: 24-01-2010, 23:01:53 »
Shot trap of the Panther.