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Re: Questions Thread
« Reply #975 on: 24-01-2017, 14:01:02 »
I like this knowledge sharing very much. Thank you Kelmola and Mudra.

Yeah, radar usage really does intrigue me. A lot of popular beliefs nowadays makes people have mistaken belief in its capability. I've seen them used to paint clouds in commercial jets. Colourful pictures. But never saw one in action in military jets. There were simulated radar scope for SAM systems. Sure, they are unlike in Hollywood or cartoon movies, as clouds and birds get picked up together.

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« Reply #976 on: 05-03-2017, 23:03:13 »
What did the Japanese plan to take if they won the war with China? I'm having problem finding info about this.

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« Reply #978 on: 06-03-2017, 16:03:36 »
but why the RAF never considered to use it against the low-altitude 190 Jabo attacks is a mystery (instead of abandoning the Airacobra because it was not suited for high-altitude fighter sweeps, what a surprise

Even funnier is seeing how the RAF used spitfires for low altitude fighter bomber attacks. Go in low, stay low. A job, perfect suited for the very agile, low altitude dogfighter the Airacobra was. Not to mentioned it was tough as nails. One of the most armoured WW2 aircraft you could have.
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« Reply #979 on: 24-11-2017, 16:11:55 »
How were surrendering tank crews generally treated? In the First World War, it seems the Germans often summarily executed captured tankers. Was this repeated to any extent in the Second World War in the fighting between the Germans and the Western Allies?

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« Reply #980 on: 24-11-2017, 19:11:37 »
According to War Without Garlands, during the late-1941 fighting around Moscow the germans started cannibalising specialised personnel, such as tank crews, to bolster the mauled rifle divisions. Soviets would often shoot on the spot any tanker-turned-infantrymen they captured, since they mistook the tank crew outfits for SS uniforms.

I know that's not the answer you were looking for but I thought it was a nice piece of trivia.  :P

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« Reply #981 on: 25-11-2017, 11:11:53 »
Why do you think tank crews would be treated differently than infantry men in ww2?
They weren't carpetbombing residential areas.

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« Reply #982 on: 25-11-2017, 11:11:47 »
Specific types of frustration or seeing friends die in certain ways can do things to the human mind.
Snipers didn't carpet bomb residential areas, but they often didn't have a very nice fate once captured...

I don't want to reduce real war to a video game, but I think the fundamentals of frustrations over roles in war can even be seen here already some times. When you play a vanilla battlefield game with casual gamers, have you never seen frustrations over things like "pussy tankers bla bla bla". It's basically someone who was faced with a tank, and he didn't have the weapons to balance the fight out (no AT weapons for example). He is frustrated by his powerlessness and feels like it's an unfair fight where the other one is just exploiting a powergap not necesarilly related to "courage" or "skill", and once the power balance changes (tank gets deactivated or surrenders or whatever), it isn't unlikely that the frustrations will turn into bad behavior towards the "not so tough now huh" person, where the frustrated person might see it as "just" to "compensate" for the earlier "imbalance".

You can also think here of that Jordanian pilot that was captured by ISIS. He wasn't the "carpet bomb civilian areas" kind of pilot, but ISIS has the frustration of constant jet bombardments on their positions, and they don't have the AA quality to shoot those jets down. When they then get in the position where they catch one of these pilots (by them considered as "cowards" as the pilots know that the chances of getting shot down are very very low, while the chances of their bombs hitting are high), their frustrations may lead to an extra cruel treatment compared to other POWs.
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« Reply #983 on: 26-11-2017, 01:11:36 »
So yeah, basically anyone based on circumstances, not tankers perse. And not by Germans perse.


I ve heard of bombercrews being linched when landed in Germany.

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« Reply #984 on: 26-11-2017, 15:11:56 »
So yeah, basically anyone based on circumstances, not tankers perse. And not by Germans perse.


I ve heard of bombercrews being linched when landed in Germany.
I seem to recall there was even a Fuehrerbefehl which ordered people in Germany to lynch those guys. So that if civilians would encounter them, they would be killed by those civilians.

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« Reply #985 on: 26-11-2017, 17:11:43 »
So yeah, basically anyone based on circumstances, not tankers perse. And not by Germans perse.


I ve heard of bombercrews being linched when landed in Germany.
I seem to recall there was even a Fuehrerbefehl which ordered people in Germany to lynch those guys. So that if civilians would encounter them, they would be killed by those civilians.

Not aware if any such order, and Hitler worked hard to avoid war crimes against Western Troops out of fear of retaliation from them.

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« Reply #986 on: 26-11-2017, 18:11:59 »
What about the commando order?

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« Reply #987 on: 27-11-2017, 02:11:38 »
Yeah, that's one of the few breaks that he did from that line.  That said, I am searching and still cannot find any such order against allied airmen for civilians to kill them.

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« Reply #988 on: 27-11-2017, 17:11:28 »
So yeah, basically anyone based on circumstances, not tankers perse. And not by Germans perse.


I ve heard of bombercrews being linched when landed in Germany.
I seem to recall there was even a Fuehrerbefehl which ordered people in Germany to lynch those guys. So that if civilians would encounter them, they would be killed by those civilians.

Not aware if any such order, and Hitler worked hard to avoid war crimes against Western Troops out of fear of retaliation from them.
Maybe it wasn't an order but a speech (by Goebbels) which urged civilians to lynch airmen. There are accounts of parachuted bombercrews who encountered civilians and that those civilians were helping them out, but also telling them about the lynching-thing: that explained why they were temporarily hiding them from military police and similar German forces who were looking for the airmen. Later the airmen gave themselves up to not endanger the civilians. I saw this in a documentary once.

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« Reply #989 on: 27-11-2017, 19:11:31 »
Yes, Goebbels did do it in a speech, but that was rhetoric.  There WERE cases of lynchings of bomber crew, but they're few and far between.