Author Topic: [FH2] Crusader Mk1  (Read 8060 times)

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #15 on: 12-05-2009, 07:05:58 »
Ye.imo, it should only take 2 shots on the side armor to kill a Panzer

Its lame you need 5-6 shots on the sides and 3-4 on the rear.

And if you get that 6th killing shot, enemy has already popped smoke, bailed out and running far away. And thats only if enemy didnt spot where you are shooting  ;D

actually 3-4 would do in the sides... but usually you can't do that before you died.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #16 on: 12-05-2009, 14:05:11 »
I actually prefer this tank to the M3 Grant or Stewart.

Its manuverability and decreased height make it perfect for sneak attacks and flanking. Also, the gun has little bullet drop after it fires making hitting stuff much easier (Panzer IV's or panzers in general aren't very good with this  ;D)

Defenitly a great weapon in the right hands and used correctly. But if theres a matilda, sherman or valentine in my base i know what i'm going for  ;D

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #17 on: 12-05-2009, 15:05:13 »
Also, the gun has little bullet drop after it fires making hitting stuff much easier (Panzer IV's or panzers in general aren't very good with this  ;D)

Umm, did you ever drive a PzIVF2? I has so little bullet drop that you're almost tempted to aim below the enemy tanks..
And the PzIIIJ has not much bullet drop either.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #18 on: 12-05-2009, 16:05:54 »
Also, the gun has little bullet drop after it fires making hitting stuff much easier (Panzer IV's or panzers in general aren't very good with this  ;D)

Umm, did you ever drive a PzIVF2? I has so little bullet drop that you're almost tempted to aim below the enemy tanks..
And the PzIIIJ has not much bullet drop either.

Maybe that statement was a bit off. Your right  thePzIIIJ has little drop but i do remember using a PzIV that had 75mm rounds on Mersa maybe and it looked as if the round was dropping like a rock. I don't know maybe a cerain round drops more?

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #19 on: 12-05-2009, 16:05:54 »
Yeah you mean the short-barreled PzIVF1, I admit it drops like a penguin shot off with a catapult.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #20 on: 12-05-2009, 16:05:28 »
also HE rounds have more drop than AP rounds
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #21 on: 12-05-2009, 18:05:21 »
Yeah you mean the short-barreled PzIVF1, I admit it drops like a penguin shot off with a catapult.

Yeah that's probably the one. I'm not really good with the different tank variant names like Ausf. H and F1. But i'm guessing the short barrel means bigger ammo that drops faster.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #22 on: 12-05-2009, 19:05:52 »
Nah it's the same calibre, but the barrel is shorter, so lower muzzle velocity, so much more drop.  ;)

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #23 on: 12-05-2009, 19:05:19 »
Plus it's an older gun type.
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #24 on: 13-05-2009, 02:05:03 »
Also, the gun has little bullet drop after it fires making hitting stuff much easier (Panzer IV's or panzers in general aren't very good with this  ;D)

Umm, did you ever drive a PzIVF2? I has so little bullet drop that you're almost tempted to aim below the enemy tanks..
And the PzIIIJ has not much bullet drop either.

the Long Barrel Panzer IIIJ have a good drop, not too much, not too few, you could easily hit "dug-in" parts (e.g. a Grant showing only his turret and you want to hit the hull) with it.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #25 on: 13-05-2009, 02:05:08 »
Yeah you mean the short-barreled PzIVF1, I admit it drops like a penguin shot off with a catapult.

Yeah that's probably the one. I'm not really good with the different tank variant names like Ausf. H and F1. But i'm guessing the short barrel means bigger ammo that drops faster.

Essentially, the Panzer4 early types, and the Pz3N, were using glorified mortars.  Their purpose was to drop large HE shells on enemy positions, and not to engage enemy tanks.  Unfortunately, much like the Sherman in american service, this was not to be for the Panzer4, although it worked well enough for the Panzer3s, as they worked with Tiger tanks.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #26 on: 13-05-2009, 11:05:29 »
Oh ok this makes sense now because i know i was reading somewhere about how PzII's were recon tanks, PzIII's were battletanks, and PzIV's were for infantry support roles.

Couldn't figure it out but now i understand.  ;)

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #27 on: 13-05-2009, 19:05:08 »
It was a genius system for Blitzkrieg tactics but later when the enemy also started using other material and Germany was turning more and more into defensive mode the system was completely abandoned. Damn shame, it was so logical and tidy, then it became a big mess  :-X
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #28 on: 17-05-2009, 05:05:10 »
Yeah you mean the short-barreled PzIVF1, I admit it drops like a penguin shot off with a catapult.
That's putting it mildly. The shell from the F1 has pretty much the same arc as the shells in unmodded BF1942. It's cartoon-like.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #29 on: 17-05-2009, 05:05:43 »
Yeah you mean the short-barreled PzIVF1, I admit it drops like a penguin shot off with a catapult.
That's putting it mildly. The shell from the F1 has pretty much the same arc as the shells in unmodded BF1942. It's cartoon-like.

Ehhh i was trying out the F1 today and believe me it's nowhere near as bad as the nilla 42 tank shells. In 42 if two tanks were 50 meters away it would turn into an epic skirmish(actually more or less it would be a pathetic display of aiming). The PzIVF1 has a lot of drop but it's not too bad. It's still alright for me when lobbing HE's.
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