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[FH2] Crusader Mk1
« on: 02-04-2009, 23:04:19 »
Love it or hate it, at some point you're going to find yourself behind the wheel of this paperweight.  Usually left abandoned at the base while the Grants are taken first, you shouldn't underestimate this tank.  With the right tactics and just a pinch of luck, you can be a real thorn in the side of the panzers.

The first thing to remember is that the Crusader is fast.  Not as fast as a jeep, but much faster than the other tanks out there.  Use this to your advantage at the beginning of rounds.  Try to reach advantageous positions before the panzers start to appear.  However, be careful being the first out of the base if there are Stukas about.  Try to stay off the usual routes, but most importantly - don't bunch with other tanks.

Attacking out in the open is a very quick way to end up at the spawn screen.  Therefore, to remain effective you have to find something to go hull down behind.  This is where the Crusader's low profile comes into its own.  You can hide behind small dunes that would barely cover other tanks, and use slight ravines to slip away unnoticed.  The best advice I can give on finding good hiding places is this: try to get to places that you wouldn’t expect a tank to be in.  For example, there are two dunes between you and the enemy.  Normally, you'd pick the larger one; thus this is the place the average tanker will look first.  Certainly don't hide with another tank unless it’s another Crusader.  The reasoning here being that the enemy might think there is only a single tank and move on once it’s destroyed.  Also remember to pick somewhere that your camouflage blends in with.  The early version is much easier to do this with than the late model, though this has little effect at the view limit.

So you’re in the perfect hiding place and the panzers have just appeared.  At this point, the impatient tanker will open fire and quickly reveal their position.  You need to wait for the panzers to get closer and into the battle before shooting.  The closer they are, the more damage your shots will do to them.  Not only due to the game's range based damage system, but also because it becomes easier to hit weak points.  The other advantage to the closer enemy is that he has less chance of spotting you at the edge of his screen than if you were further away.  The final thing you need before firing is a distraction.  Wait until the panzers have begun engaging your teammates, with their main gun preferably (but machine gunning infantry also works).  Now they are in sights and have no peripheral vision.  While loading your next shot, check to make sure that no other panzers have taken an interest in your hiding place.  If all is clear, keep on firing.  It is fine to machine gun infantry yourself, just don't do it if the tracers will give you away.

You've been spotted.  Unless it was by a M13/40 or lower, now is the time to get out of there.  If you have a shot loaded, take a quick shot at your discoverer (you never know, they might be nearly dead).  Reverse back into cover, then drive away, keeping whatever you were using for cover between you and the enemy.  Once you're back a bit, turn off to one side and circle round to find some different cover.  Use this to ambush any pursuers and get back into the fight.  You can use the smoke, but remember that it is neither in shells or mortars and just comes out the back of the engine.  Also realise that you then have to reload your gun, so don't do it if you might need to fire quickly.

The most important thing to remember with the 2pdr is that it is weak.  The only tanks you can kill in one shot are Italian or the pz2.  Where possible, aim for the tracks or rear.  Only attempt frontal shots when you’re desperate: they do very little damage and are very likely to get you noticed.  Also remember that as of 2.15, hitting the early pz3 in the front will do no damage at all, though this is not the same with the late pz3.  You don't have to worry about tigers though, so it’s not all doom and gloom.

The final thing to keep in mind is that you are not likely to live long.  The battlefield is a dangerous place for one so under armoured, and the situation can change quickly and out of your control.  By all means get back in a Crusader; just resist the temptation to go back to your original hiding place again for a while.

As a separate thing to general Crusader tanking, Mersa Matruh presents the cruiser connoisseur with a different challenge.  All I can say about this is stay in the city and stick to killing infantry.  There is no place to hide from the panzers in the town, so your life will be short.  For maximum effectiveness, try to get someone in your mg turret.  They can be very useful when you're looking behind at killing AT soldiers trying to give you biscuit variety boxes, because people rarely expect them to be manned.

To a lesser extent, this guide can also be applied to the Cruiser MkIV.  This tank has only 1 advantage over the Crusader: it has smoke mortars.  I hope this helps you out, but it is by no means complete.


Maps with the Crusader Mk1 (early):
- Sidi Rezegh
- Gazala
- Operation Aberdeen


Maps with the Crusader Mk1 (late):
- Mersa Matruh
- Alam Halfa

Added section:

This is a short section concerning the use of the tank monted 2 pounder.


This image shows the crosshair.  At normal combat ranges, the german panzers will gernerally fit between the 2 vertical bars like this Pz4F1.  At these ranges, drop has to be taken into account.  Also note that due to the side monted nature of the sight, the shots tend to travel to the left of where you aim.

At normal distances, you have to use the apex of the upsidedown 'T' that makes up the bottom of the crosshair (blue blob).  At longer distances (e.g. at the veiw distance), you may have to use the next line down.  The machinegun fire at normal range fals in approximatly the area of the red blob, though extended bursts may be necessary to combat dispersion.


The final point to make is about the MG turret.  While not effective in real life and often removed, in game it is much more usefull.  It has a much wider freedom of movement compared to normal hull MGs, and is very good at taking out engineers running up to lay mines since they rarly expect the turret to be manned.  Its sights are basic, though you must remember that the bullets travel to the right of the aiming point (very important to keep in mind at close ranges).
« Last Edit: 06-04-2009, 19:04:41 by Eat Uranium »

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #1 on: 02-04-2009, 23:04:36 »
nice +1

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #2 on: 03-04-2009, 12:04:42 »
You can use the reverse on the Crusader quite effectively when pulling back or trying to maneuver about your opponent. The Crusader is almost as quick in reverse as it is going forward (no surprise there), and it can kick up a fair bit of dust. Along with its low profile it is hard to hit when retreating. Another tip is when pulling out after a shot at a stronger opponent, would be to retreat in a zig-zag pattern. The Crusader is also good at this, because it has decent maneuverability.

You can also position yourself with the tank's rear to the enemy (because there really is no difference in survivability getting hit in the front or back with a Crusader), turning your turret about, take your shot, and drive off. The Crusader's forward movement is slightly faster than its reverse, and the little extra speed could help you out when retreating to take another shot later.

If you can, couple yourself with a stronger tank such as a Grant, wait for him to get his shot in at the enemy first. Then fire immediately after. Sometimes the Grant's 75mm is not strong enough to take out a Panzer III/IV with a frontal hit, but an immediate shot from a 2 Pounder is enough to finish them.

Remember, your Crusader is still effective with its AP against softer targets, such as an 88mm, Hanomag or Pak 38. You can still outmaneuver or flank a static gun and take him out. At the end of the day, it's still a tank...and a tank is better than no tank. Advance when the infantry does to support them with their movement towards flags.

I've bitched and moaned about being stuck in a Crusader many times, but sometimes having a moving MG/2Pdr can come in handy.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #3 on: 03-04-2009, 14:04:56 »
This tank is surely a sneaky bastard. Though I pity it's 2 pounder. I love the Crusader  ;D
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #4 on: 04-04-2009, 02:04:00 »
This tank is surely a sneaky bastard. Though I pity it's 2 pounder. I love the Crusader  ;D

i hate it when someone good is in a Panzer III, i just keep dying, and my shells keeps bouncing off.


btw, i found that 2pdr sometimes don't work at extremely close distance, while they worked very well in mid-distance against Panzer IIIs unless you try front shots which would mostly fail.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #5 on: 04-04-2009, 10:04:53 »
Good tips, every tank has its pros and con's some are good for head on and some are best hidden in tree's or rocks picking people off as they go bye lol.

Good stuff.


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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #6 on: 06-04-2009, 19:04:49 »
Updated with some pictures and a bit of info on the 2pdr.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #7 on: 06-04-2009, 20:04:42 »
Those pics are quite useless, because where the shots land differs from pc to pc because of graphic settings etc.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #8 on: 10-04-2009, 18:04:23 »
Nice guide EU. I mostly end up in a Crusader when playing that damned Aberdeen and have started to like that fast little tin box. Its quite deadly if used correctly and if not its at least irritating for the enemy. :)

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #9 on: 10-04-2009, 21:04:00 »
Nice guide EU. I mostly end up in a Crusader when playing that damned Aberdeen and have started to like that fast little tin box. Its quite deadly if used correctly and if not its at least irritating for the enemy. :)

The hill at Aberdeen overlooking checkpoint A(I think), is a good set for a crusader.Because you Also have the sun in your rear.I first noticed this when i was in the panzer 3(Long barreld) and one panzer IV and one Panzer II where destroyed by a crusader, but we couldnt find him.Later i was taking hits, and in the end, i found his location, but it was to late and i was dead.
Next time i played Aberdeen, i grabbed a crusader, went to the same spot, and shot 5(5!!!) Panzer 3's to hell.
Next time i will be playing aberdeen, i'll grab a SS of what spot i mean :D ;D
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #10 on: 10-04-2009, 23:04:20 »
I hate this tank.. i just saw the Semovente killing me, the PzIV F1 klling me a long distance.. hehe.

And the accuracy is bad.. bad bad bad, horrible for Gazala.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #11 on: 11-04-2009, 08:04:43 »
I hate this tank.. i just saw the Semovente killing me, the PzIV F1 klling me a long distance.. hehe.

And the accuracy is bad.. bad bad bad, horrible for Gazala.

peace.

somehow i feel that the 2 pounder on the crusader shakes too much.

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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #12 on: 11-05-2009, 13:05:28 »
Guys, i got a suggestion:

Forgett about the speed. Do it. Dont rely on it.

I was driving crusader at Alam el Halfa, when i saw the Pz4 on my side, so i begun to go forward, but as the Pz4 noticed me it begun to go on rewerse gear, and actually it was even faster than my crusader at full speed forward.

So as i sead, forgett the spead. Its forgotten hope.
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #13 on: 11-05-2009, 20:05:33 »
Ye.imo, it should only take 2 shots on the side armor to kill a Panzer

Its lame you need 5-6 shots on the sides and 3-4 on the rear.
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Re: [FH2] Crusader Mk1
« Reply #14 on: 11-05-2009, 21:05:21 »
Ye.imo, it should only take 2 shots on the side armor to kill a Panzer

Its lame you need 5-6 shots on the sides and 3-4 on the rear.

And if you get that 6th killing shot, enemy has already popped smoke, bailed out and running far away. And thats only if enemy didnt spot where you are shooting  ;D