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« Reply #16470 on: 24-02-2019, 17:02:45 »
Royal Marine Commandos man a Landing Craft, Support, used in the liberation of Walcheren island in late 1944


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« Reply #16471 on: 24-02-2019, 17:02:44 »
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I wonder how many of those or mg13 were still in used as lmg in infantry division in 1940 ...

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« Reply #16472 on: 24-02-2019, 18:02:48 »


Firing up a Hotchkiss in Lapland

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16473 on: 25-02-2019, 07:02:37 »


Men from the Bulgarian First Army Armoured Battalion riding on a BMW R75. Road to Harkány - Siklós, Hungary. 8 March 1945

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16474 on: 25-02-2019, 09:02:37 »


Suursaari March 26th 1942

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« Reply #16475 on: 25-02-2019, 12:02:44 »
I wonder how many of those or mg13 were still in used as lmg in infantry division in 1940 ...

MG35/36 apparently was only used by SS and in  very small numbers. I found link to this book in one thread on axishistory forums (https://sassik.livejournal.com/348072.html). Translator doesn't do very good job with this text, but that's how I understand that: inventor tried to get this gun approved by Heer but with no success, then at the beginning of the war he approached SS and they expressed interest. There are numerous SS documents dated between January to February 1940 that talks about this gun being in some form of trials with 500 guns being made in Steyr and supposedly given to SS-Totenkopfverbande. General concensus was that gun needed some changes but in May documents mention that there are problem manufacturing barrels and there was also a small drama involving the designer. Project was terminated in June 1940 by SS that cut all ties with the designer and refused any further funding of a project.

Most photos that I've seen are either of SS or Polizei units, but none of them are clearly combat usage. There is also one photo of NDH soldier with it, number of photos of Yugoslavian partisants with this MG's.
So propably any remaining guns were, after project was cancelled, given to anti paritsan units in Yugoslavia or used for training with SS.

If anyone is interested I attached a file with text extracted from photos of that book that you can paste into a translator. It's just quickly put together txt file so sorry that it isn't formatted properly.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16476 on: 25-02-2019, 12:02:40 »


Australians testing supressed Austen and Owen smg's near the end of the war.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16477 on: 25-02-2019, 19:02:57 »
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I wonder how many of those or mg13 were still in used as lmg in infantry division in 1940 ...

MG35/36 apparently was only used by SS and in  very small numbers. I found link to this book in one thread on axishistory forums (https://sassik.livejournal.com/348072.html). Translator doesn't do very good job with this text, but that's how I understand that: inventor tried to get this gun approved by Heer but with no success, then at the beginning of the war he approached SS and they expressed interest. There are numerous SS documents dated between January to February 1940 that talks about this gun being in some form of trials with 500 guns being made in Steyr and supposedly given to SS-Totenkopfverbande. General concensus was that gun needed some changes but in May documents mention that there are problem manufacturing barrels and there was also a small drama involving the designer. Project was terminated in June 1940 by SS that cut all ties with the designer and refused any further funding of a project.

Most photos that I've seen are either of SS or Polizei units, but none of them are clearly combat usage. There is also one photo of NDH soldier with it, number of photos of Yugoslavian partisants with this MG's.
So propably any remaining guns were, after project was cancelled, given to anti paritsan units in Yugoslavia or used for training with SS.

If anyone is interested I attached a file with text extracted from photos of that book that you can paste into a translator. It's just quickly put together txt file so sorry that it isn't formatted properly.
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thx for the info
I'm currently trying to find info about the mg13 use as a lmg at the beginning of the war. Afaik, mg34 was not completely available until 1941.
So germans had to use zb26, mg13 etc ...



it is supposed to be at dunkirk 1940
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« Reply #16478 on: 25-02-2019, 20:02:19 »
So here is the other issue of the same book/magazine I linked in regard to MG35/36 which covers MG13. https://sassik.livejournal.com/335687.html
There's nothing specific about usage during World War II, but there's one interesting bit of info:

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"Es verblieb auch noch nach der Einführung des MG 34, ja sogar des MG 42, bei der Truppe, wenn auch nicht in den vordersten Stellungen.
Uns liegt eine Bedienungsanleitung für das MG 13 aus dem Jahre 1940 vor und in unserer Sammlung befinden sich Magazine, die mit dem Hersteller-Codezeichen S/42 versehen sind. In der Liste über die Bewaffnung der deutschen Wehrmacht aus dem Jahre 1943 werden außer dem MG 13 sogar noch die MGs 08 und 08/15 aufgeführt."

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"It remained even after the introduction of the MG 34, and even the MG 42, at the troop, albeit not in the leading positions.
We have an instruction manual for the MG 13 from the year 1940 and in our collection are magazines, which are provided with the manufacturer code S / 42. In the list about the armament of the German Wehrmacht from the year 1943, in addition to the MG 13 even the MGs 08 and 08/15 are listed."

I wish I could be more helpful, but I'll let you know if I find anything on the subject.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16479 on: 26-02-2019, 05:02:16 »


SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt. 2 and sIG 33 auf Panzer 38(t) Ausf. H's. Boves, Italy. 19 September 1943

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16480 on: 26-02-2019, 09:02:20 »


it is supposed to be at dunkirk 1940

What are those pouches for? Looks uncomfortable af

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« Reply #16481 on: 26-02-2019, 10:02:53 »
What are those pouches for? Looks uncomfortable af

These are for MG 13 25-round magazines, but were also used for MG 26(t) afaik.




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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16482 on: 26-02-2019, 21:02:11 »
What are those pouches for? Looks uncomfortable af

These are for MG 13 25-round magazines, but were also used for MG 26(t) afaik.


Indeed. On this pic i would rather say mg13 because the curve shape is seems there.
MG13 was in used as aa gun on Krupp-Protze so i hope if we do a Krupp-Protze, we will create a mg13 aa but also used it as lmg.
But before, we need to find where and when it was used.


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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16483 on: 26-02-2019, 22:02:40 »


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U.S. 1st Armored Division Sherman tanks move inland from the Anzio beachhead, Italy, 1944



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German soldiers of the 1st SS Panzer Division on a tank during the battle of Kursk, July 1943

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #16484 on: 27-02-2019, 07:02:00 »


318th Cannon Co. in Ouvrage Rohrbach. 9 December 1944