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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11925 on: 06-03-2014, 21:03:20 »

Perekop, Isthmus of Perekop, Crimea, October 1941.

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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11927 on: 06-03-2014, 22:03:02 »
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Re: Picture of the Day
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11929 on: 07-03-2014, 00:03:11 »

KG 51 'Edelweiss', Bagerowo Airfield, Kerch, Crimea, Russia, July 1942. Airplane type is Ju88A.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11930 on: 07-03-2014, 00:03:56 »

This kind of pictures always makes me wonder: When they drop all the bombs together at the same time, doesn't that reduce the damage they do on the ground? Or do they split up in the air due to different friction with the air? Or something else?
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11931 on: 07-03-2014, 08:03:39 »
They spread out over a large area because there are minute differences in the plane's position when the bombs are dropped and then they keep moving in different paths which diverge from each other due to small angular differences.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11932 on: 07-03-2014, 09:03:28 »
Remember, there is no traffic in the Air, just clean skies. So you can roughly say a plane in it's course flying with a speed above 300km/h, can travel a huge distance in a minute. (Even bigger with faster aircraft)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11933 on: 07-03-2014, 10:03:03 »
and also, theoretically, each time a bomb is released the plane gets lighter and changes it's attitude a little bit upwards, making a small change in the next bombs trajectory. Also bombs wobble a lot when they fall, even with the stabilizing fins, so that changes their trajectory as well.
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11934 on: 07-03-2014, 10:03:04 »
They actually reach terminal velocity soon and wobbling reduces.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11935 on: 07-03-2014, 13:03:08 »
I am aware of the plane movements etc, but is it really enough to reach optimal destruction while dropping with a density this high? And as said, the B17 isn't exactly a speed machine, so then it even matters more...
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11936 on: 07-03-2014, 13:03:00 »
^ I'd say even if it reduces the damage done on the ground it probably increases the chance of hitting what you were actually aiming at, instead of hitting some random unimportant shed half a mile away...
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11937 on: 07-03-2014, 13:03:33 »
good point, now it makes sense to me :)
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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11938 on: 07-03-2014, 18:03:18 »
I am aware of the plane movements etc, but is it really enough to reach optimal destruction while dropping with a density this high?

The point was generally not to inflict damage in the biggest area possible, but to hit strategic targets like a factory or railroad station. You'd use 40 planes at once and hope that at least one plane drops the bombs pretty much on target. And when it does, you obviously want that load of bombs to be as concentrated on the target area as possible.

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Re: Picture of the Day
« Reply #11939 on: 07-03-2014, 19:03:29 »
Just to emphasize the need to use s many bombers as possible to score a hit, a 'hit' was considered landing a bomb within a 1 mile radius of the target.  And 90%+ of bombs didn't get that.