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Re: Berlin
« Reply #15 on: 07-03-2018, 01:03:53 »
What if I also modified the sound files of the tank ammo selection and reload to include voices like "load HE" and "loaded"? I wonder if the FH2 devs ever considered that and dumped it for practical reasons.

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #16 on: 07-03-2018, 10:03:29 »
how is that related to the map? I doubt devs ever considered such thing for a simple reason: there are no voice commands for that in 8 languages used in FH2.

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« Reply #17 on: 07-03-2018, 12:03:06 »
Just another minor detail that comes to my mind and that I guess I can easily implement. I will just need 2 languages here and they don´t need to match the mod´s voices.

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Re: Berlin
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Re: Berlin
« Reply #19 on: 08-03-2018, 08:03:09 »
Looking good already. Grey Flak is a nice touch  :)

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #20 on: 08-03-2018, 09:03:23 »
AFAIK wrong though for 1945.

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« Reply #21 on: 08-03-2018, 10:03:42 »
You could say the same thing about the half of German equipment left in April 1945. Sure, there were probably more Flak 36/37 in use, but visually it's pretty close match and it blends in with the overall grey-ish tone of the map.



« Last Edit: 08-03-2018, 10:03:24 by nysä »

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #22 on: 08-03-2018, 17:03:58 »
Looks great!
Make sure to chew up that nice little park a bit.
We can play test it during the scrim of the next campaign, maybe.

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #23 on: 08-03-2018, 18:03:27 »
The screens etc... are nice to see, but do you have a minimap that you can show? Something that shows the overall gameplay layout and how the player will move through the city and sectors?

Like this;

or this;

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #24 on: 08-03-2018, 18:03:00 »
Alright will change the Flak color then.

The green area is the second sector of the map which is completely raw, it has no detail at the moment.

To be honest I didn´t learn how to generate the minimap yet. Is it easy to do?

I still have to figure out how to re-texture town signs and how to make the static Tiger and Pantherturm. Right now I just want to finish at least the first 2 sectors of the map, I want to test it with players and check out the general balance.

About the map´s greyish look, the skybox and lightning are just test, I will look into that much later, don´t really care for the moment.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Berlin
« Reply #25 on: 08-03-2018, 18:03:05 »
With your map open in the level editor go to the Editor>General Bar on the right, click on the generate button, to get a very basic minimap.

Sometimes you have to go to the bottom tab and run the scripts:  minCulldistance 2000 and noLods 1 if certain buildings etc... don't show up

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #26 on: 08-03-2018, 20:03:35 »
Alright will change the Flak color then.

Nooooo..  :o Not complaing about the colors at all. Greyish theme would be realistic, since the spring of '45 was rather cold (with a dull sun) as you can see in this picture from Berlin:

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Re: Berlin
« Reply #27 on: 08-03-2018, 20:03:35 »
I think he’s talking about the dunkelgrau flak gun. TS pointed out it should be dunkelgelb since the Germans switched to that as their base paint color in 1943.

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« Reply #28 on: 08-03-2018, 21:03:18 »
True, but if you look at the pictures from 1944-45 you will notice many of the German A.A. guns (from Flakvierling to Flak 40) were still in grey, even the ones mounted on otherwise camouflaged vehicles.



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Re: Berlin
« Reply #29 on: 08-03-2018, 22:03:23 »
I wouldn't say "many." It's certainly possible to have a dunkelgrau flak gun that survived until the end of the war, but I'd say that the vast majority of them would've been dunkelgelb by that point. Considering the directive went out in February of 1943, there's a much higher chance that a flak gun in '45 would've been created after that time.

It's also hard to judge B&W images when it comes to color. Lighting, contrast etc... can all effect how they look. The one that you posted in front of the Reichstag looks dark;


while other photos look light;





It's also good to keep the 88 the same color as the pak40s etc... that are being used.

If the map is about a specific unit in Berlin, or a specific sector where there's evidence of dunkelgrau being used, then that would justify going against the status quo. But in general, dunkelgelb would've been much more common.