Author Topic: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game  (Read 1259 times)

Offline GeoPat

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #15 on: 01-11-2017, 03:11:03 »
IMO, one shouldn't concern themselves with K/D, not for themselves or others.  It places limits on this great sandbox game.  As a high ping player, I never try to out shoot people.  I always concentrated on sneaking into flag zones when I first started playing.  That wins rounds and is very satisfying.  I also like to hunt tanks with satchels or man the same AT gun for 30 mins, constantly repairing it.  People should think about what they are contributing to the team goals.  In a way I feel bad for the aces, rifle, plane, etc.  There are much better games for their specialized skills.  This game is great for people who are mediocre at everything.

Though there are cheaters who come and go, it is the campers who really kill the game for everyone.  This is more of a problem on stock maps rather than the custom ones despite what is said above.  The push code limits the routes and options and is the perfect set up for someone who has played for years sit in the right spot and rack up kills.  Any camping problems on custom maps can be fixed in a few months if reported correctly.

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« Reply #16 on: 01-11-2017, 17:11:50 »
I fully agree that playing a successful MP rd on FH2 requires a great deal of teamwork. I know the mechanics of FH2 are different than other FPS games, and there are likely several new players whom come over from lonewolf bunny hopping 360 no scope games like CoD then end up sucking at FH2. I've spent more time researching the game mechanics of FH2 than I have playing it, and with my military background I probably have a better understanding of squad tactics than an Xbox kid. 
 
I do the same much of the time, sneaking into flag zones to capture them, but without team support it's impossible to cap a flag afaik, bar won't move w/one guy even if there are no enemies in range. I generally command a squad so players can spawn on me when I'm near said flag, that is if ppl are actually playing as a team & not just getting themselves blown up in tanks. FAQ says number of soldiers required to cap a flag are "shown on a sign at the mast of the flag". However I've never seen such a sign, perhaps that's only FH0.7. I fully agree K/D ratio is definitely not the #1 thing players should concern themselves with. Making the enemy bleed tickets by capping flags is certainly a more effective way to win than camping for kills (unless you're defending a flag). I only brought up K/D in reference to a certain player lonewolfing it with the Garand. I'd say one of the next important things is to destroy enemy armor. Destroying one enemy tank is like killing 10+ foot soldiers. Which is why I always tank hunt if I'm not spotting for arty, or if I see an enemy tank approaching I immediately procure AT weaponry. 
 
Also important imo: working as a team to spot for artillery. While playing I've seen many players who want to operate the artillery, but too few who want to spot. I see a ton of requests for spot that rarely get a response. Myself I always try to be the spotter if we have a guy manning the artillery. It can be highly effective esp. playing defense. If no one is manning arty I start a squad & say for example: "We have a Nebelwerfer 41 let's put it to use!". Not just rocket artillery, but the conventional guns & mortars are all effective. Perhaps I'm overstating the effectiveness of ranged artillery, but I've observed it to make a significant impact. It's great FH2 requires the level of teamwork it does, I enjoy the realism of that idea, however I've often found it a bit difficult to get people working together on MP FPS games. In FH2 you can absolutely see quite clearly when one team is working together to win the round and the other team is not. The ones working together will be kicking the sh*t out of their enemy. 
 
Of course I'm not a master at the game, but saying I do not at all understand how it works is...a little bit of an assumption. Generally I maintain a mid-level standing on the scoreboard, depending on the team & map. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower. I'm glad the game is setup to be unfair. I enjoy that, esp. when playing Germany as it adds to the realism. The reason I brought up cheating is because there have been a couple of occasions where I have observed odd behavior both among someone on the enemy team AND friendly team. No, I've never spouted "OMG *such & such guy* is hacking WTF cheater!!1" in the chat. I've only ever (just two specific occasions) asked other players without naming anyone specifically "Are there any protections against cheating here or do admins observe the game sometimes?" Genuinely, on both occasions, other players spoke up with (paraphrasing) "Yes, *such & such* is acting odd." Then the guy in question, rather than speak like an adult, starts with the "Lol stupid nub jaja". I say nothing further & let the admin investigate if he so chooses being I am an adult, not a 12yr old xxX420weedXxx kid.
 
Anyway I won't derail this thread any further. I have a list of other questions & interests unanswered in the search function which I'll start a thread on once I'm finished compiling the list. I love playing FH2, I hope to see it continue on. I've done a bit of modding on other games & I am currently researching, experimenting, and learning how to map & mod on FH2. I'm currently working on a new map for the Eastern Front.   

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #17 on: 03-11-2017, 09:11:46 »
Reading on here I saw how you can play as Germany (a dream & rarity)

I don't understand how that's a rarity. 98% of all WW2 games that have a multiplayer gamemode, allow you to do that. On RTS games you can even play as Germany in singleplayer. Only obnoxious and edgy children who haven't really played any WW2 themed games seem to love the fact that you can play as Germany in a WW2 game. ::)

Regarding the other thing, where people end up with "ridiculous" scores of 60:4. That doesn't seem far fetched, especially on lowly populated servers, where rounds last longer. You can also get such scores on a 100 player server when you use artillery.


Anyone know good places to acquire BF2 and the patches nowadays?

Only "legitimate" copies of BF2 or are links to unauthorized copies of the base BF2 game good too?
The patches are easy to find. You just need two on top of the base game.

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #18 on: 03-11-2017, 18:11:55 »
EA shut down Battlefield Revive. No downloads from there anymore. You can remove it from Getting BF2 nowadays.

https://community.revive.network

Will they look at PRthing after?
« Last Edit: 03-11-2017, 19:11:15 by Ivancic1941 »
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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #19 on: 03-11-2017, 22:11:09 »
Reading on here I saw how you can play as Germany (a dream & rarity)

I don't understand how that's a rarity. 98% of all WW2 games that have a multiplayer gamemode, allow you to do that. On RTS games you can even play as Germany in singleplayer. Only obnoxious and edgy children who haven't really played any WW2 themed games seem to love the fact that you can play as Germany in a WW2 game. ::)

Regarding the other thing, where people end up with "ridiculous" scores of 60:4. That doesn't seem far fetched, especially on lowly populated servers, where rounds last longer. You can also get such scores on a 100 player server when you use artillery.
 
 
I was referencing FPS SP. (RTS was never mentioned. At all.) Which...I stated clearly in my OP. Nice attempt at being edgy by taking what I said out of context. And yes, most games with single player function do not have the ability to play as Germany. Sounds like you don't have much experience with any WWII themed games. I've been playing them since before you were born.
 
Also this map had no ranged artillery nor were there 100 players, there were 8 - 12. 
 
I recommend you hold off on posting for a bit before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself. ::)

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #20 on: 04-11-2017, 18:11:00 »
Again, it is all about quality.  I've recently had small server games where I died once, if at all, while racking up kills, while tank hunting or MG gunning or such.  But then I've been playing FH since it was FH .6 on BF1942.

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #21 on: 04-11-2017, 19:11:56 »
It's actually easier to rack silly K/D ratios on low pop server imho. You can keep count of all enemy players and their possible movements, probable squad leaders and spawn waves. Lower risk of getting surprised by someone or something you didn't expect. Also lower risk of getting completely overwhelmed by enemies. Small maps also being more action oriented so no time wasted traveling between flags.

This ofcourse still requires player to be much better than anyone else on the server, but nothing inhuman.

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #22 on: 06-11-2017, 09:11:50 »

I was referencing FPS SP.

Sure you were. That's why you were talking about Forgotten Hope 2. A classic "singleplayer game". Here again, to refresh your memory what you said:

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I discovered FH2 in Sept. ... I was researching my top favorite gun: Volkssturmgewehr Gustloff on imfdb.org. Saw FH2, the only FPS w/the VG1-5 & VK-98 both! Looked up videos & saw how realistic they were. Reading on here I saw how you can play as Germany (a dream & rarity)

If, according to your own words, FH2 counts as a singleplayer game and it fulfilled your dream of playing as the Germans, then other games should have fulfilled your dream too. Games like BF 1942 would count as a singleplayer game according to your logic, because it also has bots.

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #24 on: 25-11-2017, 06:11:30 »
EA shut down Battlefield Revive. No downloads from there anymore. You can remove it from Getting BF2 nowadays.

https://community.revive.network

Will they look at PRthing after?

Ahahah, I didn't know that! It's incredible! On the other hand, I wouldn't blame EA, I would blame the lazy developers that gave in. The same was about Nostalrius in WoW - no private server cared about C&D letters, yet they did and shut themselves down.

I do hope that 762 aren't this defeatist. FH2 has been around for a decade. Betraying it now would be quite disgusting.

Inb4 EA try to shut down Pixel-Fighter because they reach 25 players online xD
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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #25 on: 25-11-2017, 15:11:53 »

I was referencing FPS SP.

Sure you were. That's why you were talking about Forgotten Hope 2. A classic "singleplayer game". Here again, to refresh your memory what you said:

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I discovered FH2 in Sept. ... I was researching my top favorite gun: Volkssturmgewehr Gustloff on imfdb.org. Saw FH2, the only FPS w/the VG1-5 & VK-98 both! Looked up videos & saw how realistic they were. Reading on here I saw how you can play as Germany (a dream & rarity)

If, according to your own words, FH2 counts as a singleplayer game and it fulfilled your dream of playing as the Germans, then other games should have fulfilled your dream too. Games like BF 1942 would count as a singleplayer game according to your logic, because it also has bots.
 
 
Let me refresh YOUR memory. I never ever once said FH2 is the ONLY SP FPS with German play. I said it's a rarity. You named one game. 
 
You know people like you are the reason I see the FH2 community catching so much shit on other boards. You refuse to accept the fact that you're wrong, you made a mistake, grow up and deal with it instead of acting like a pretentious little child.

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #26 on: 27-11-2017, 14:11:12 »
Anyone know good places to acquire BF2 and the patches nowadays?

Revive Project has been shut down so if someone wants to get the game (without torrenting it) it is available on www.bf2rangers.com with all the patches (I can't confirm if it works with FH2 but is should)

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Re: Forgotten Hope 2: State of the Game
« Reply #27 on: 06-12-2017, 17:12:48 »
I don't know if it even works but can't people just torrent BF2 these days to get it?