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[Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« on: 01-07-2017, 14:07:28 »
In this dev blog I will post some diagrams showing the weapon loadouts of infantry units that appear in FH2, starting with the Americans. These are based both on official tables of equipment, as well as variations known to have been used in the field.

US Army Rifle Platoons (Normal Infantry)







US Army Parachute Rifle Platoons




« Last Edit: 01-07-2017, 15:07:46 by Ts4EVER »

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #1 on: 01-07-2017, 17:07:34 »
This is cool. I saw your post in the PR forums and wanted to know more. Do you have the source for the official tables or is it in a book?

There's a lot of interesting stuff that I have questions about like when the Grease Gun started seeing action or why a Parachute Platoon would prefer a Browning over a (seemingly more portable) BAR.

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #2 on: 01-07-2017, 19:07:36 »
My guess is they wanted to concentrate support weapons like mortars and medium machine guns at the squad level for paratroopers, in case they got scattered.
Regarding the Grease Gun: It was the replacement for the Thompson, but it never fully replaced it. I just put it in the later ones for some variety.

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #3 on: 04-07-2017, 23:07:13 »
Some more American loadouts, this time Armored Infantry (meaning the guys in the halftracks) and Rangers.






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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #4 on: 09-07-2017, 10:07:47 »
Next up, the British. Their organizations were also used by other members of the Commonwealth, as well as occupied nation's expeditionary forces that were equipped by them, like the French in North Africa or the Poles. The terminology is a bit different from the Americans.

Normal rifle infantry:





Motor rifles, meaning the infantry supporting tanks:





And last but not least, some more flashy "special forces" you can find on some FH2 maps:





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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #5 on: 09-07-2017, 17:07:51 »
That's insane just how many Sten guns an air landing platoon would carry.

also, the rifle platoons don't have any Boys rifles. Would that be dedicated to a totally different platoon?

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #6 on: 09-07-2017, 17:07:39 »
From what I can gather a normal rifle platoon had them, but the African version ditched them due to their uselessness.

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« Reply #7 on: 09-07-2017, 19:07:23 »
i don't think it is that surprising that elite troops, late in the war, would choose any available select-fire guns over obsolete bolt action rifles.  Remember, most armies rushed to replace those with automatic assault rifles when the war ended.

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #8 on: 10-07-2017, 18:07:46 »
i don't think it is that surprising that elite troops, late in the war, would choose any available select-fire guns over obsolete bolt action rifles.  Remember, most armies rushed to replace those with automatic assault rifles when the war ended.

Yea but the Sten still shoots a 9mm. I'd feel a little underpowered going to battle with that over a heavier round.

Maybe it was mission specific? Paratroopers would probably get first choice and could still go on a mission with more Enfields if needed. If they're actually paradropping in, they're probably chose the Sten or keep their loadout less cumbersome. But if they didn't need to paradrop they had a bit more freedom to chose.

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #9 on: 10-07-2017, 18:07:04 »
As it says on the pic, they had a pool of 300 Sten guns.

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #10 on: 11-07-2017, 09:07:52 »
This blog is lovely. And I made a comeback
That other thread failed miserably and if you try to spam or flame here, I will break your arms.
FH2 won't be the last FH. ;)

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #11 on: 11-07-2017, 09:07:02 »
Next up: The Red Army

Their TOEs are kinda hard to find, especially for smaller units like scouts, tank riders etc, so it is pretty general.






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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #12 on: 12-07-2017, 00:07:57 »
Next time when I play FH2 with friends, I'll force them all to carry "Papashas". Imagine a whole squad with PPSH and Shpagins... :D

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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #13 on: 12-07-2017, 13:07:04 »
Interesting posts so far. How different would the Red Army 1941 Rilfe Platoon loadout be from its 1942 counterpart?
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Re: [Historical Background] Weapon Loadouts
« Reply #14 on: 12-07-2017, 16:07:32 »
Fewer smgs, there was a shortage of lmgs, so some squads may have none. 4th squad might not have existed. Squad Leaders usually had SVT40s.