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Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« on: 14-11-2015, 02:11:34 »
If I'm not mistaken we're talking about 3 bombs, 6 shootouts with more than 100 dead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/world/europe/paris-shooting-attacks.html?_r=0

What are your views on this.

 Trending hashtags on twitter are #pray_for_paris and #terrorism_has_no_religion.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #1 on: 14-11-2015, 02:11:14 »
It is truly horrible what has happened.  My thoughts to all those affected.  :'(

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #2 on: 14-11-2015, 05:11:46 »
I woke up terribly shocked. My sympathies for the victims.

Update as of 04.39 GMT, 8 attackers found, 7 detonated themselves upon confrontation with police, one shot dead. Death toll varies between 120 (BBC, France24, Monde, Euronews) to 150 (DW, CNN, FoxNews, CCTV4). 200 mores are injured, 80 of them are critical (needing constant care and monitoring). Place bombed are: 2 bombs detonated at the entrance of Stade De France, St. Dennis during Germany vs. France game, followed by shootings in 5 different places near cafe streets including a concert hall staging a rock concert full of audience (most of the victim).

#terrorism_has_no_religion is unnecessary and obvious. Even if this act is associated with one religious extremists, they have already attacked so many of their "so-called brothers in faith" that you don't need to dissociate yourself from those lunatics for healthy minded people to judge.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #3 on: 14-11-2015, 14:11:42 »
It's a shame, I knew it was going to be a massacre once someone from inside the theatre tweeted "They're killing everybody". These people have no mercy for anyone, they did their job, killing everyone they could.

And of course, here comes the Far-Right groups that will surely do their thing too, we cannot let these idiots take the power either.


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Anyways, I understand the pain of having 100+ dead in Paris, it is indeed terrible, however I don't see many "Hashtags" when similar things happen in Lybia, in Beirut, in Gaza, Syria, Irak.... and so on, massacres there happen almost daily.




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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #4 on: 14-11-2015, 15:11:20 »
It happens daily cause its a civil fucking war. Can't confuse a war with a country which is at peace.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #5 on: 14-11-2015, 16:11:49 »
I'm sorry but France is part of the US-led Coalition, technically, they're in war with the Daesh, and they should be in war with the rest of the "Moderates" like Al-Nusra, but hey. You simply need to expect these things, cancerous Daesh fights like this, we know it, we all know it, it's how they fight, cowardly or not it's their way.


How quickly the Beirut victims are forgotten, despite having 100% civilian casualties. But who gives a damn about Lebanon, no?, they're in that shithole place we call "Middle East" after all. Civil War or not, they're doing the same thing as they did in Paris, exclusively targetting Civilian Populations.


This is a tragedy yes, but we can't just ignore what's going on elsewhere.

Have we forgotten about Boko Haram?.


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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #6 on: 14-11-2015, 16:11:59 »
Strange that I've heard shortly before that a bomb was found/suspected to be on the german's team hotel at Paris. I expected the security forces to be ready and aware. Really bad,yesterday Europe looked to be in a good mood,with all those matches happening,now everybody either is mourning their dead or afraid.

But like Torenico said,now everyone can expect a large french reprisal,not on ISIL unfortunately,but rather on argelians,moroccans,tunisians,syrians,maybe senegalese and mosques on Paris.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #7 on: 14-11-2015, 17:11:44 »
Yes, there is a bomb in Beirut, killing about 40+ people. It is sad to see "The Paris of Middle East" turned into a battleground by hardliners.

And now this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34822666

Derailed train killed 5 in France.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #8 on: 14-11-2015, 20:11:43 »
Syrian airstrikes have been almost exclusively carried out by the US and the UK, with marginal help from the "coalition" (Australia since two months ago, Canada a while longer). France only joined the airstrikes against ISIS little over a month ago, AFTER that ISIS hangaround managed to jam his AK-47 (literally what) in the train and failed in his unprovoked massacre. Which just proves that things like ISIS won't go away by simply ignoring them and you can be a target even if you did not be a part of any "coalition".

Also, leaving ISIS alone if we have the means to stop them is not morally sound, as their regime is guilty beyond reasonable doubt of genocide and torture.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #9 on: 14-11-2015, 21:11:21 »
I don't exactly follow ISIS' motive behind these attacks. The only thing it's going to lead to is tighter border control and more anger towards them. I guess the overall tensions between muslims and the rest might lead to ISIS' popularity and increase in recruitment, but I kind of doubt it.

The sick part of me kind of wants ISIS to do this thing in Russia. Then they would get the absolute shit kicked out of them after that.
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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #10 on: 14-11-2015, 23:11:40 »
I don't exactly follow ISIS' motive behind these attacks. The only thing it's going to lead to is tighter border control and more anger towards them. I guess the overall tensions between muslims and the rest might lead to ISIS' popularity and increase in recruitment, but I kind of doubt it.

The sick part of me kind of wants ISIS to do this thing in Russia. Then they would get the absolute shit kicked out of them after that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/03/world/europe/sinai-peninsula-russian-plane-crash.html?_r=0

My guess all of the attackers, just like with Charlie Hebdo are born and raised in France. The Banlieue are a good breeding ground for angry and frustrated young men who turn to extreme idiocy to vent their frustration. Bleh frigging nutcases.



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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #11 on: 14-11-2015, 23:11:24 »
Syrian airstrikes have been almost exclusively carried out by the US and the UK, with marginal help from the "coalition" (Australia since two months ago, Canada a while longer).
Watched some TV programs on it just now, turns out France has been bombing ISIS in Iraq for a while. Also, like NTH says, French banlieues are a big cause for breeding trouble among muslims in France.

What I fear, is that most western governments will start to fight the symptoms again, instead of rooting out the causes.

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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #12 on: 15-11-2015, 08:11:11 »
Well, according to the French ministry of interior the attackers had Syrian and Egyptian passports and according to a Greek source, one of the attackers passed through Greece in October as a migrant. So the attackers seem to have (partial) origins outside France.
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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #13 on: 15-11-2015, 13:11:40 »


And of course, here comes the Far-Right groups that will surely do their thing too, we cannot let these idiots take the power either.

The problem at the moment is caused by politically correct radical left winged parties wich have grasped their grip on europe for the past years. They caused all of this mess, because they wanna do everything opposite of right winged. In fear of return of facism. But look at what got us that

So pretty much, people need to understand that both far right and radical left winged parties are both equally responsible for killings, for pain, suffering... That both are bad.


What we had to do was take a middle way. Both left and right have very good arguments, choises, ideas, you name it. But we have been forced to think either black or white.


Right winged destroyed europe in 1945, now the left winged are doing it.
Its time to throw out all old political parties and start a-new

I fear for the lives of my friends, but we are all pretty much helpless. All i can do, is teach them a few basic rules, like stay calm, evacuate, look for emergency exits, if a shooting starts and you are caught in the middle, drop dead on the floor..


Unless they finnaly approve that we can carry weapons in public. In that case, i will take my military entrenchement tool with me everywhere! Show ISIS a thing or 2 when i bitch slap them in the face with my trusty bundeswehr spaten!
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Re: Attacks on Paris 14/11/2015
« Reply #14 on: 15-11-2015, 13:11:15 »
Right winged destroyed europe in 1945, now the left winged are doing it.
In which European countries the communist parties are the biggest and actually ruling? I don't know any of them.

Its time to throw out all old political parties and start a-new
Not gonna solve anything.

Unless they finnaly approve that we can carry weapons in public.
Yeah, that's a great idea! Let's enhance the chance of a public shooting even more!