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The treasure corner
« on: 06-06-2013, 00:06:08 »
So I bought a Metal Detector two weeks ago. Could not do much with it so far, because it rained so much all the time.

Garrett ACE 250. A really good machine, as far as I can tell. 12 different metal type indicators.
Behind it my VW, I wish it would be a Kübelwagen considering the type of dirtroads I use lately ;)

So far i just dug up everything to get some experience on how to interprete the signals.
Most was crap so far, bottle caps, aluminium foil, nail and so on. Also a bunch of undefined rusty iron pieces, which I guess might be 88 shell fragments. There were a lot of those guns shooting above Schweinfurt during he war.

But yesterday I found my first cool coin. 1 Pfenning, Deutsches Reich, from 1911, with a nice eagle on the back.

100 years in the ground. I had to apply quite heavy cleaning measures.

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #1 on: 06-06-2013, 00:06:59 »
I've never really been interested in metal detecting as a hobby, almost all the greatest spots are fenced in parks with "No Relic Hunting" signs everywhere.

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #2 on: 06-06-2013, 00:06:32 »
I've never really been interested in metal detecting as a hobby, almost all the greatest spots are fenced in parks with "No Relic Hunting" signs everywhere.

It's called the "cover of darkness". Just kidding, I wouldn't advocate anything illegal...  :D

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #3 on: 06-06-2013, 10:06:46 »
I remember a friend of my dad went metal detecting behind our house once, came back with hundreds of 'Roman sandal studs', which on closer inspection turned out to be hundreds of shotgun cartridge primers.

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #4 on: 13-06-2013, 21:06:54 »

found a spend 50 cal bullet in the woods from WW2..
"K S 43"
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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #5 on: 13-06-2013, 21:06:54 »

found a spend 50 cal bullet in the woods from WW2..
"K S 43"
KS = Kelly Springfield, Allegany Ordnance Plant - Cumberland, Maryland.   ;D
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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #6 on: 17-06-2013, 22:06:46 »
30 minutes digging today brought me all this crap  (minus the wire brush and heavy duty rubber ) :)


But still, the aluminium can turned out to be a Wehrmacht condensed milk can, although I only found one search result for the "AL-DIN 252" stamping mentioning this.

Also the other two pieces of aluminium look interesting. Found two today and one the first time I was in that forest.

Seems like all three pieces could have been one thing, since they all share a rounded and threaded form. The first part though looks like it has nearly completely melted to a blob at some point, only a small part with grooves is visible, but that looks also very twisted or ripped apart.

I wonder what this could have been. Propably military, since farmers and woodworkers don´t use aluminium tools. My guess is it might be from a plane. Can´t think of any vehicles or guns or infantry equipment made out of aluminium !?

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #7 on: 18-06-2013, 10:06:44 »
This is interesting, metal detectors can find some cool stuff.

Once I went to Gallipoli, to Chunuk Bair (Conk Bayırı). There even if you scrubble the ground with your shoe, you find something interesting. I did, and found a button which I later learned that it belonged to an ANZAC soldier, and an empty shell. I found them without a detector though, and I dont know where they are now.

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The treasure corner
« Reply #8 on: 27-06-2013, 16:06:22 »
Hello and welcome to the treasure corner !

In my free time, I am a metal detectorist. Up to now I have been posting pictures from time to time in the militaria topic, however I thought it deserved it's own treat. This topic is intended for me and my fellow detectorists to show of their wares. I will be updating this topic from time to time if I find something interesting.

But it is not only reserved for the detectorist, if you happen to find a treasure on your grandmother's attic, please feel free to share :) 

Any Belgian will recognise this lot ;)



A bit more unfamiliar perhaps. top row are Belgian WWII coins (2x1Fr, 3x 0.25 Fr), all poor condition. Very bad minted coins unfortunately. Dated 1942. Bottom row, coins minted around 1950 1Fr and 5 Fr.


a far better mint is this 1925 5 Reichpfennig. Excellent condition, shines as hard as gold


also a good condition Umberto I. Big ass 10 centimici from 1894 (picture prior to cleaning, looks even better now)



oldest coin so far 1751 Liegian Liard, prior to cleaning.

 

I have allot of "rotten" ones as well. these are coins varying from 16th to 18th century, but are unfortunately unreadable, so all what's left is a plain metal circle..

Some jewellery
 

BANG BANG !


A nice button. Golden gilded not to great shape though. I had this determinated. It appears to have belonged to a Belgian aristocrat and is a custom made button from around 1850


My detector is not so good in discriminating, so I dig out quite a bit of iron as well. I've even dug out a complete cooking set once -_-     



Need ammo ? got some for ya. If you detect in Belgium you're bound to find allot of these. I used to take them home, but nowadays I just toss them in the bin at the place I find them



And sometimes you find these little buggers. Musketballs, with a small calibre, so I suspect these are intended for pistols rather then muskets.



And if you keep your eyes open, you might not even need to dig at all. WWII American ammo box. Left it behind though since it was completely rotten (cellphone, so even poorer quality then my other pics :p)



If you have any to share please do so :)

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Re: The treasure corner
« Reply #9 on: 27-06-2013, 18:06:01 »
Silly question, where do you go? I have a detector also and even a buddy that wants to join me so i don't have to go alone. The problem is that i am Terrible at finding decent spots. Can you give me any advice?

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Re: The treasure corner
« Reply #10 on: 27-06-2013, 19:06:37 »
Well the first and foremost important answer: go and look where people might have lost things.

Depending on what you are looking for, your spots also vary. If you are looking for Roman coins, you need to go and look near Roman settlements and old roads. Doing some research really helps to improve the quality of your finds. Old maps can help if you are looking for that kind of stuff.

So what are you looking for ? Also what kind of detector do you have ? For any European soil I recommend a detector that at least has a basic of iron discrimination, otherwise you are going to dig allot of holes ;)

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Re: The treasure corner
« Reply #11 on: 27-06-2013, 19:06:28 »
I have a Garrett Ace 250.

I don't know, coins and WW2 related things i sepose. All i find is shotgun hail, barbed wire, nails and beer bottle caps.

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Re: The treasure corner
« Reply #12 on: 28-06-2013, 17:06:38 »
Ok, I have an ace 150, so it's a lesser model then yours  ;D

I assume you're not discriminating iron out ? you really should. Don't worry, all the good stuff won't show up as iron on this detector anyways. Helemts, grenades ect all give a coin signal :p.

Basically this is the tumb rule I use for my ace 150

Just iron : leave it. Prolly some nail or a chunk of iron
Iron/nikkel : leave it. junk like tin cans
nikkel/PT : leave it. likely a pulltab or a wrap of some kind

all the others you'll have to dig out (iron/coin,PT ring coin, PT coin, ...) Keep in mind that just like mine , this detector is not a great iron discriminator, so you'll dig out lost of that too.

Also keep in mind : for every coin I dug out, I dug out at least 5 pieces of junk. Bottlecaps are a pain in the ass. Patience is a virtue. I'm concidering buying myself a better detector though, so I'll have to dig out less litter and make smaller holes (the ace150 doesn't have a pinpointer like yours, so I have to make quite big holes ;) )     

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Re: The treasure corner
« Reply #13 on: 28-06-2013, 18:06:41 »
Yeah, i also have one of those stick like things that show where to metal is with a few cm accuracy. Super handy to be honest, that is how i found lots of shotgun hail, tiny lead balls, everywhere where i live. Lots of rabits here, and pheasants. Makes it a pain for me.

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Re: Metal Detecting
« Reply #14 on: 02-07-2013, 15:07:08 »
In a totally different forest I found yet another of those aluminium pieces. This one actually had some writing on it so I could do some research.

"S / 30 1942"

Pretty sure now those are remains of the S/30 Time Fuse used on Flak shells with caliber 8.8, 10.5 and 12.8 cm. The fuse contained a mechanical clock and could be set to detonate between 3 to 30 seconds after firing, so the shells would not be a threat when they fell back to the ground unexploded.

Considering the amount of anti aircraft shells fired around Schweinfurt, it is no wonder that you can find them everywhere in a few km radius around the city.

picture of the whole fuse


construction schematics
http://www.eeoda.de/2012/1201_FB3_ZtZ_S-30_Ges.pdf
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