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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #645 on: 08-11-2018, 16:11:21 »
OBB Axis- Battle of Gazala
Panzerarmee "Afrika" – Rommel
------523. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung (-) (see KG "Menny") – 8 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.
------528. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung – 12 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.
------529. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung – 12 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.
------532. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung – 12 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.

Corpo di Armata XXI
Kampfgruppe Menny
----3./523. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung - (attached) (see Arko 104.) – 4 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.
----533. Kusten Artillerie Abteilung - (attached) – 12 x 155mm sFH414[f] How.

I suppose that's a typo, since sFH 414(f) stands for Schneider modèle 1917 howitzer, while proper desigantions for GPF and GPFT are K 418(f) and K 419(f) respectively. I'm wondering just because the organisational chart of Panzer-Armee Afrika in May 1942 shows this for its artillery:

Harko. 104
- Stab/Art.Rgt.(mot.) 221
-- II.(mot.)/Art.Rgt. 115
--- 4.(mot.)/Art.Rgt. 115 (3x 21cm Mrs.18)
--- 5.(mot.)/Art.Rgt. 115 (3x 21cm Mrs.18)
--- 6.(mot.)/Art.Rgt. 115 (3x 21cm Mrs.18)
--- 1./le.Fla-Btl.(mot.) 612 (12x 2cm Fla.K.)
-- s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 408
--- 1./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 408 (4x 15cm s.F.H.18)
--- 2./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 408 (4x 10,5cm s.K.18)
--- 3./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 408 (4x 10,5cm s.K.18)
-- s.Art.Bttr.(mot.) 902 (3x 17cm K.18 in Mrs.Laf.)

Coastal artillery
H.Kü.Bttr. 363 (4x 7,5cm Geb.G.15)
H.Kü.Bttr. 364 (4x 7,5cm Geb.G.15)
4x Platoons (8x 7,5cm le.F.K.18)
H.Kü.Art.Abt. 523
- 1./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 523 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 2./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 523 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 3./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 523 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
H.Kü.Art.Abt. 528
- 1./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 528 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 2./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 528 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 3./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 528 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
H.Kü.Art.Abt. 529
- 1./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 529 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 2./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 529 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
- 3./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 529 (6x 15,5cm K.418(f))
H.Kü.Art.Abt. 533
- 1./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 533 (6x 15,5cm s.F.H.414(f))
- 2./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 533 (6x 15,5cm s.F.H.414(f))
- 3./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 533 (6x 15,5cm s.F.H.414(f))
4./ H.Kü.Art.Abt. 149 (3x 17cm K.18 in Mrs.Laf.)
H.Kü.Bttr. 362 (3x 17cm K.18 in Mrs.Laf.)

Moreover, it is certainly possible that they were used even earlier, in Operation Crusader and siege of Tobruk. According to this page HKAA 533 had GPFs at least from April 1941 until January 1942, when it was rearmed with Schneiders due to heavy losses. I would assume that happened during Operation Crusader, as next is stated that HKAA 523 was incorporated into 533 after being wiped out in December near Sallum.

Also, there is a series of pictures of a K419(f) prepared by the Germans in Tobruk in June 1941 (that is the link to the Italian state archive, so I suppose that can be trusted):






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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #646 on: 08-11-2018, 16:11:08 »
Add:
I found another reference:
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HKAA 533 (3 batteries of 6 guns 155 GPF) loaded the 25.5.41
HKAA 523 (3 batteries of 6 guns 155 GPF) loaded the 21-24.6.41 (for 3.battery and Stabsbatterie), the 28.6.41 (for 2.batterie), and the 17-23.9.41 (for 1.batterie)

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Only a few of them were lost during Sidi Rezegh (about 2-4 guns), so the HKAA 533 used to have his guns for Gazala. These guns were very mobile on strategical movements (tactical mobility was not good at all, for example on allroad), especially because it was heavy and resistant, and towed with only one heavy arty tractor (usually a SdkFz 7 or 9).

For example 17cm or 21cm, it was towed in two pieces (sometimes the 17cm were towed for shorts travel with one Famo).

The last 15,5cm K 418/419 were used during Tunisian campaign.

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #647 on: 08-11-2018, 20:11:06 »
from my point of view, 155 pieces are commander arty.
Those pieces are long range and are not supposed to be present on the map

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #648 on: 08-11-2018, 21:11:40 »
Great info radiomesh!!!  :o :o Wow how I missed that error in list. I read it and copied while I just saw 155mm and (f) and taught that is it. Thanks on correction   :)

from my point of view, 155 pieces are commander arty.
Those pieces are long range and are not supposed to be present on the map
But why do you need even model when commander arty is not seen on map? Is commander arty coded like spawning bombs in air that rain down or actually gun firing somwhere on secondary terrain? What are guns used for other factions in FH2 for commander arty?

Well they are more strategic and with bigger range. But as Gazala map is super scaled down , it somehow fits the scenario and situation. I think its better to be used by players somewhere than just static on PdH map or as commander arty only. Plus it would look  cool. But its not on me to decide will it be used in map or not.   :D
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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #649 on: 08-11-2018, 23:11:12 »
But why do you need even model when commander arty is not seen on map?
I think you misunderstood:
from my point of view, 155 pieces are commander arty.
Those pieces are long range and are not supposed to be present on the map

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #650 on: 10-11-2018, 17:11:46 »
Played on several FH2 maps today. Have the devs though about replacing the default loading song with custom one?

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #651 on: 10-11-2018, 17:11:45 »
Played on several FH2 maps today. Have the devs though about replacing the default loading song with custom one?
Yup, several maps actually received a new song in the latest update :)

Which maps did you have in mind when thinking of upating the songs?

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #652 on: 13-11-2018, 17:11:24 »
I think it has been discussed many times but I want to ask anyway. What's devs opinion about instant changing position in vehicles? When a guy siting on a body of tank mashing F3-4 buttons, instantly changing position and becoming invincible, is that fine in the eye of devs? 

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #653 on: 13-11-2018, 17:11:12 »
Some devs don’t like it and idk if others care that much. I think we’d all like to get rid of that tactic (sit on the back of a tank and repair while mashing buttons) but idk if it’s possilbe to do. Could add a delay to switch seats (idk if that’s even possible) but that could also lead to problems with 2 man vehicles like 6pder or mobile Flak etc....

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Re: The Minor Suggestions Thread
« Reply #654 on: Today at 01:53:50 »
I guess it should become a server rule. This tactic ruins the athmosphere just as much as shooting into the ABC line, TKing, etc.