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Anti tank rifles
« on: 22-07-2012, 15:07:18 »
Where should i be shooting with these things? They dont seem to do anything against other tanks, and even trucks and stuff, s it possible to pierce the armour and kill the driver or something?
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #1 on: 22-07-2012, 15:07:42 »
Where should i be shooting with these things? They dont seem to do anything against other tanks, and even trucks and stuff, s it possible to pierce the armour and kill the driver or something?

Basically if it's a light tank or below (truck - only engine block, not the canvas or it's an APC) go ahead, they usually die in 2-5 shots, except if you hit the front. If it's a medium tank there's not much you can do unless it's a Pz IV with the short barrel (F1 etc.), Crusader/Cruiser or hit directly on engine block (Pz III, don't know if all versions have this weakspot).
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #2 on: 22-07-2012, 15:07:44 »
Ok thanks, now maybe i should not try to destroy Tiger 2's with it.
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #3 on: 22-07-2012, 18:07:02 »
Ok thanks, now maybe i should not try to destroy Tiger 2's with it.

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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #4 on: 22-07-2012, 18:07:21 »
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #5 on: 22-07-2012, 19:07:06 »
Ok thanks, now maybe i should not try to destroy Tiger 2's with it.

Only handheld gun capable of taking out Tiger is the Colt 1911.

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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #6 on: 22-07-2012, 20:07:15 »
There's a couple threads on anti-tank rifles already, make sure to search to get all info.

Anyway, there's two anti-tank rifles in game - the Boys rifle and the Panzerbuchse. The Boys rifle is bolt-action and comes with 4 clips of 5 shots, the Panzerbuchse is single-shot and comes with 25 rounds. Both rifles have very little bullet drop, in almost all situations you do not need to compensate for bullet drop over long distances, but both rifles are innaccurate (to prevent using them to snip infantry), so it often takes several shots to get a hit on a tank far away. (You can still kill infantry with them, it's just difficult and usually a waste of time).

Both anti-tank rifles are available as pick-up kits all over every map that has anti-tank rifles you can spawn with, and anti-tank rifles are almost always limited to spawn with so please take an unlimited kit (such as rifleman) and then grab a pick-up anti-tank rifle kit if you can.

The spawnable anti-tank rifles:

Allied: knife/Webley/Boys rifle/ x3 sticky bombs
Axis: knife/Walther P38/Panzerbuchse/ x2 3kg geballte ladung

On some maps, spawnable anti-tank rifles include binoculars, but this is rare.

The pick-up anti-tank rifles:
Allied: knife/Webley/Boys rifle/ x2 thermos nukes
Axis: knife/Walther P38/Panzerbuchse/ x2 1kg geballte ladung

The best tactic is to use the alternate anti-tank weapons (sticky bombs, thermos nukes, geballtes) against heavy armor, and use the rifles themselves against light tanks, APCs, trucks, jeeps, etc. A good way to do this is to gain height, such as positioning yourself on the top of a hill, the top floor of a building, etc. This allows you to throw your bombs onto vehicles passing below, as well as using your rifles to shoot vulnerable spots like the top of the turret and engine decks.

Although light tanks are the preferred prey, heavier tanks can be taken out with the rifles (even if your bombs are usually easier). The Panzer III is impervious to anti-tank rifle fire, but the Panzer IV can be killed with 5 shots to the rear of the hull - it's unlikely you will get five shots in, but it's good to know if you see a Panzer IV damaged already, you can kill the tank with a couple quick shots.

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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #7 on: 20-10-2012, 21:10:18 »

(Sorry for the small pic)

Basically, when you attack heavier armor (such as Panzer III) you should always seek for weak points. I have made a rather poor, but passable MS Paint graph to show everyone, where to hit.

    RED- Sloped armor, bounces off. You are dead meat in no time.
    LIGHT GREEN- Work well, when you are close, but still use your 3kg Gell or sticky for certain kill.
    ORANGE- Might work, but not always
    DARK GREEN- Engine and the gastank, they just scream HIT ME!
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #8 on: 20-10-2012, 21:10:22 »
You really have to get close to take a good and promising shot otherwise you arent gonna get a good aim.

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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #9 on: 21-10-2012, 20:10:52 »
DARK GREEN- Engine and the gastank, they just scream HIT ME!

AFAIK that's the only thing that can be damaged on Pz III, note, only from the top (that's reasonable to hit, other weakspot might be the turret top and the bottom of the tank, but good luck in hitting that).
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #10 on: 21-10-2012, 20:10:50 »
DARK GREEN- Engine and the gastank, they just scream HIT ME!

AFAIK that's the only thing that can be damaged on Pz III, note, only from the top (that's reasonable to hit, other weakspot might be the turret top and the bottom of the tank, but good luck in hitting that).
It's not impossible, but as you can see, turret hit is Orange, meaning that it is unlikely to damage OR hit the tank there.
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #11 on: 21-10-2012, 20:10:11 »
It's not impossible, but as you can see, turret hit is Orange, meaning that it is unlikely to damage OR hit the tank there.

It might be Orange but it's coded as 30 mm in game (on Pz III), and no AT rifle can penetrate that (if I remember right).
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #12 on: 21-10-2012, 22:10:34 »
The sides and rear of early Panzer III's turret can be penetrated by the Panzerbuchse, dunno about the Boys rifle.
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Re: Anti tank rifles
« Reply #13 on: 24-10-2012, 18:10:54 »
both should actually not be able to penetrate the turret sides..
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