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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #210 on: 25-08-2009, 06:08:02 »
Well, there are one or two things we haven't shown yet ;)

(No... Not the 105mm howitzer or the GMC truck, they're not in 2.2...)

More flamethrowers, heck yes :D

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Mmm...flamethrowers, cant wait to use them  ;D

Now me and my Panther has something to fear, the M4A1(76)W...
I think the 76mm Sherman will be further down the list of your worries my friend  ;)

Haha, maybe, lets see that when Normandy is out :D


Hmm, i am crazy or... in the pic Totalize6.jpg theres 2 versions of the Tiger, Early production and Late Production?.. they have 2 different skins.


2 Tigers... WOOT!


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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #211 on: 25-08-2009, 07:08:07 »
Those skins were released when the newer Tiger was shown some time back - Like most tanks, the Shermna 76mm, etc the Tiger seems to have more than one look is all - The 2 are simple variants of the same thing... I guess they could have used the same skin, but it makes it more interesting to have slight variations, give each tanker a character

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #212 on: 25-08-2009, 08:08:58 »
Well, there are one or two things we haven't shown yet ;)

(No... Not the 105mm howitzer or the GMC truck, they're not in 2.2...)

More flamethrowers, heck yes :D

 ;D
Mmm...flamethrowers, cant wait to use them  ;D

Now me and my Panther has something to fear, the M4A1(76)W...
I think the 76mm Sherman will be further down the list of your worries my friend  ;)

Haha, maybe, lets see that when Normandy is out :D


Hmm, i am crazy or... in the pic Totalize6.jpg theres 2 versions of the Tiger, Early production and Late Production?.. they have 2 different skins.


2 Tigers... WOOT!
There are 3 skins for Tiger late, all 3 shown. One in the Germany vehicle section and other two in Totalize6.jpg.
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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #213 on: 25-08-2009, 09:08:00 »
Its actually a Wittmann "222" camo especialy for totalize and villers bocage by FatJoe/Toddel  ;D


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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #214 on: 25-08-2009, 09:08:05 »
Ace Wittmann... lol his gunner did all the work and Wittmann gets to be the Ace... pfff
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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #215 on: 25-08-2009, 10:08:55 »
That's how it worked in the German army as I recall it. If a tank did well, the commander got the praise.

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #216 on: 25-08-2009, 10:08:50 »
That's how it worked in the German army as I recall it. If a tank did well, the commander got the praise.

It's how every army works. ;)

An off topic quote from Terry P. nicely shows another facet of the military. ^^
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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #217 on: 25-08-2009, 10:08:55 »
I think it was Gen. Zukov who said 'When our men meet a minefield, they approach it as through the mines weren't there - The casualties from mines we see as acceptable had those fields been defended by stronger defesese like machineguns and men'

Its all about cold-blooded arithmetic and logistics - Like maneouvering under fire, alot of probabilty @ the risk of losing your life - Kinda why soldiers are not encourages to question orders - you need to know you are part of the system, just as expendible... Kinda wonder why modern media doesn't quite get it going about making modern warfare such a political quagmire... as though the good side should never take casualties


But back on topic, that's pretty cool - So we actualy got a hero tank on the battlefield - Gotta love the devs' sense of fun - Did he ever etch or paint his number of kills on his tank? Will be interesting to have that if it were there - Besides, I don't think all the credit is the gunners, he follows orders and the tactics employed are Witmman's...

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #218 on: 25-08-2009, 11:08:06 »
That's how it worked in the German army as I recall it. If a tank did well, the commander got the praise.

It's how every army works. ;)

In the Finnish army the gunner was awarded.

But I know what you mean :P

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #219 on: 25-08-2009, 14:08:29 »
Looks great, can't wait! ;D

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #220 on: 25-08-2009, 14:08:35 »
I think it was Gen. Zukov who said 'When our men meet a minefield, they approach it as through the mines weren't there - The casualties from mines we see as acceptable had those fields been defended by stronger defesese like machineguns and men'

Its all about cold-blooded arithmetic and logistics - Like maneouvering under fire, alot of probabilty @ the risk of losing your life - Kinda why soldiers are not encourages to question orders - you need to know you are part of the system, just as expendible... Kinda wonder why modern media doesn't quite get it going about making modern warfare such a political quagmire... as though the good side should never take casualties


But back on topic, that's pretty cool - So we actualy got a hero tank on the battlefield - Gotta love the devs' sense of fun - Did he ever etch or paint his number of kills on his tank? Will be interesting to have that if it were there - Besides, I don't think all the credit is the gunners, he follows orders and the tactics employed are Witmman's...

Yea lets continue off topic, you seem to know wich side is good, tell me mate
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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #221 on: 25-08-2009, 17:08:15 »
I think it was Gen. Zukov who said 'When our men meet a minefield, they approach it as through the mines weren't there - The casualties from mines we see as acceptable had those fields been defended by stronger defesese like machineguns and men'

The Soviets are a bit of a special case in that regard. When attacking, some commanders would fine out how many machine guns the germans had, multiply that by how many bullets they could fire in the time it'd take to walk from the starting position to their trench, and field that many men, plus a couple thousand for good measure :p.
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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #222 on: 25-08-2009, 20:08:15 »
Commanders get the praise because they choose the targets, they give the orders for the tank, the tank's manuveres, etc....  The crew just carry out his orders.  HOWEVER, if a gunner became a tank commander, any of the kills he made were automatically given to his score, Kurt Knispel being a great example of this.  Also, tank crews were normally awarded medals all round, so in Wittman's case, everyone had up to the Iron Cross 1st class, and he and his gunner held the Knights Cross.

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #223 on: 25-08-2009, 20:08:38 »
see, there is justice in the word after all... back on topic...

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Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 20th August 2009: Total War
« Reply #224 on: 25-08-2009, 21:08:37 »
Now that I think about it, my statement might be wrong. I seem to recall reading about it in some book but I'm really uncertain. Disregard my earlier post for now.