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« Reply #105 on: 03-08-2012, 11:08:49 »
That case is being taken care of :)
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« Reply #106 on: 04-08-2012, 21:08:17 »
Thompson in GTA 4, labeled as 1928 but it is actually an m1a1 by "author"   boow

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« Reply #107 on: 04-08-2012, 22:08:06 »
Good find.

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« Reply #108 on: 04-08-2012, 23:08:29 »


frakking bastards
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« Reply #109 on: 05-08-2012, 11:08:20 »
In these kind of cases, I always wonder where did the thief stole his other content. In both of these last 2 cases, the author has been pushing quite a lot content out. But did they make any of them?

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« Reply #110 on: 01-10-2017, 17:10:23 »
Didn't know where to post this, so sorry for bump.

I found this model: http://www.moddb.com/mods/warfront1/images/ingame-shots-of-panzer-ii-and-t-264

You can see that it's the FH model just by comparing it with the official render: http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/T-26/big.jpg

I didn't check all pictures but I think there might be more models/textures from FH. Montoya and FH1 are long gone so I'm not sure if stolen models are still seen as a crime.

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« Reply #111 on: 01-10-2017, 20:10:29 »
I'm not too sure about this one. The Warront tank is missing the two headlights for example, and also the rear part looks different.

Of course there are also a lot of similarities, but because they are the same tank in a mod of the same game, chances are quite big that you get similar looking vehicles.

Thanks for the report anyway, maybe I'm totally off the chart here and someone more modelsavvy can shed his/her light on this.

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« Reply #112 on: 01-10-2017, 21:10:36 »
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Are you making these models and textures alone? That's quality of whole mod-team...
Yes, it is just me, although I can't take credit for some of the models/textures. I have downloaded quite a few from free model sites. While I did have to do a LOT of work (re-model parts, re-wraps, partial re-skins, etc) to some of them to get them ready for the game, some of these were done by someone else.

From the Moddb comments section. It could be the FH1 model modifield without permission, after all.

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« Reply #113 on: 01-10-2017, 22:10:11 »
Yeah, it would be nice if he wrote down which models were his and which aren't, and who worked on them. Will save a lot of trouble later. My guess is most of them aren't his because he is the only one working on the mod.

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« Reply #114 on: 01-10-2017, 23:10:08 »
You can tell by the matching texture detalis that it is indeed a FH1's model. I can't tell if he aquired it in a legal way tho. Nice find. I guess is up to devs to dispel any doubts here.

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« Reply #115 on: 13-10-2017, 22:10:02 »
Montoya and FH1 are long gone so I'm not sure if stolen models are still seen as a crime.

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« Reply #116 on: 14-10-2017, 12:10:13 »
Montoya and FH1 are long gone so I'm not sure if stolen models are still seen as a crime.
It's a matter of respect for those who work hard for free to provide those model.
(even if the model is obsolete today)
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« Reply #117 on: 14-10-2017, 17:10:47 »
Montoya and FH1 are long gone so I'm not sure if stolen models are still seen as a crime.

Wait, doesn't a Pixel-Fighter server with 26 concurrent players count as alive?
Yes it's still being played, with "long gone" I meant the development of the mod.

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« Reply #118 on: 31-10-2017, 20:10:42 »
Nice to see you're still around Seth_Soldier  :)

Easy Eight, I downloaded this model, along with several others. Did I know they were  FH models? I kinda figured, I'm familiar enough with their older BF1942 stuff to know, even if the texture sheets wasn't signed. But since they were uploaded to a free 3d model download site over 3 years ago, and available for download under personal and commercial free license, I used them. I changed some things on the models, and the textures as well, to fit with what I'm doing with my mod, but I never claimed ownership of the models. Plagerism? Stolen models? Criminal? Seems a bit excessive, even coming from an FH fanboy...

I would suggest a simple Google search of "free 3d models" to see whats out there and who put it there, and under what conditions they can be used, BEFORE coming to a public forum and accusing anyone of anything.

EDIT: As a side note, it would have been easier for me if I did just "take" the model from the FH mod. The models I downloaded were in .max format. I had to open them in 3dsmax 12, convert them to .3ds, then open them in 3dsmax 7, make any changes to the model I deemed necessary, break apart the tank into it's hierarchy, set the pivots, create the bones, skin the tracks for animation, create the collisions and shadows, apply the texture, and then code after exporting. I can honestly say that I have just as much work in the model itself as the original dev. I chose to do this because even with all that work, these models were still unwrapped and textured, which (for me at least) is the most time consuming part of the modeling process. So, if I have anything to feel "guilty" about, it would be using the texture that I didn't not create.
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« Reply #119 on: 12-11-2017, 10:11:35 »
Nice to see you're still around Seth_Soldier  :)

Easy Eight, I downloaded this model, along with several others. Did I know they were  FH models? I kinda figured, I'm familiar enough with their older BF1942 stuff to know, even if the texture sheets wasn't signed. But since they were uploaded to a free 3d model download site over 3 years ago, and available for download under personal and commercial free license, I used them. I changed some things on the models, and the textures as well, to fit with what I'm doing with my mod, but I never claimed ownership of the models. Plagerism? Stolen models? Criminal? Seems a bit excessive, even coming from an FH fanboy...

I would suggest a simple Google search of "free 3d models" to see whats out there and who put it there, and under what conditions they can be used, BEFORE coming to a public forum and accusing anyone of anything.

EDIT: As a side note, it would have been easier for me if I did just "take" the model from the FH mod. The models I downloaded were in .max format. I had to open them in 3dsmax 12, convert them to .3ds, then open them in 3dsmax 7, make any changes to the model I deemed necessary, break apart the tank into it's hierarchy, set the pivots, create the bones, skin the tracks for animation, create the collisions and shadows, apply the texture, and then code after exporting. I can honestly say that I have just as much work in the model itself as the original dev. I chose to do this because even with all that work, these models were still unwrapped and textured, which (for me at least) is the most time consuming part of the modeling process. So, if I have anything to feel "guilty" about, it would be using the texture that I didn't not create.
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