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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #15 on: 19-11-2011, 12:11:43 »
Werent these the MG's that formed most of the mg-armament protecting some of the most notable sections of the atlantic wall, such as Omaha Beach?
Yep. Same goes for italian beaches.

medium machinegun on tripod, that does not make any sense to.
Mg 34/42 could be used propaly without such a big tripod.
maybe it was better in static and trench defence, but for blitzkrieg war style it seems not too good for me
Blitzkrieg wassent exactly used after 1941  ;D Weapons like these are still usefull and needed for assaults on defensive positions aswel, for supressive fire. They where around in 1945, they are STILL around today. Tripods reduce much recoil aswel.

And if you see the recoil on a MG34/42 with bipod, and the MG34/42 on a lafette=Huge diffrence
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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #16 on: 19-11-2011, 13:11:49 »
mg42: 12 kilos 1 Person
Vz.37 :19 kg gun + 17.5 tripod 2 Persons at least
Mg42: can be shot without tripid
vz 37: does look as it would need one.

Imo the vz is a heavy machinegun for static defence, but not suitable for a moving unit, no matter if blitzkrieg forward or blitzkrieg back. ^^

So for the weigt of one vz you get 3 mg42.
I take the mg 42 ...

The guns were used cause everything was used, not cause it was that good. More is better, but mg 42 is 3 times better then this

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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #17 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:19 »
allsoo, accuracy has MUCH more to say about the person who fires the weapon, not the weapon itself.

allso a weapon that Requires a lafette/tripod is not very good for close combat situation as most infantry combat are faught, maybe in the stationary support role, but Not on the move. no. never.

but this thread is Not about the zb-whatever lafette. its about mg37 in the marder III,     moderators?
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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #18 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:49 »
And your point guys? This issent a weapon comparion discussion, this is a historical discussion

Germany used alot of Czech weapons=Simple fucking fact
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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #19 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:14 »
And your point guys? This issent a weapon comparion discussion, this is a historical discussion

Germany used alot of Czech weapons=Simple fucking fact

no, its about the mg37 in the marder III  that fires, sounds and behaves like the mg34 :)

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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #20 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:16 »
And your point guys? This issent a weapon comparion discussion, this is a historical discussion

Germany used alot of Czech weapons=Simple fucking fact

no, its about the mg37 in the marder III  that fires, sounds and behaves like the mg34 :)
well yeah true but if they make a true VZ37 in it, they could make the infantry deployed version :v
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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #21 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:09 »
its only about making the right sound and rewrite a line or two, not making a model.

as noone is ever gonna care to remodel the tank for this, and neither would i.

maps and shit before guns.

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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #22 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:01 »
And your point guys? This issent a weapon comparion discussion, this is a historical discussion

Germany used alot of Czech weapons=Simple fucking fact

no, its about the mg37 in the marder III  that fires, sounds and behaves like the mg34 :)
well yeah true but if they make a true VZ37 in it, they could make the infantry deployed version :v

They would but they won't. Now back on topic or I lock it.

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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #23 on: 19-11-2011, 14:11:19 »
just OTi:
vz30 is a lmg
vz37 is a hmg
mg42/mg34 is a mmg (so it can be transform as a hmg - lafette - and as a lmg with a drum).

Depending of the purpose of the platoon you had hmg, lmg, mortar etc ... like in any nation !
Mg34 was created as a multi purpose mg because of the massive need for a quick rearmement.



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Re: MG-37(t) in Marder III
« Reply #24 on: 19-11-2011, 18:11:07 »

euhm
magazine machinegun?



Huge amounts of these got issued to the german wehrmacht AND waffen SS

German troops liked the ZB 57/VZ37 alot. Very accurate and mas MUCH and much more effective then the MG34/42 in infantry support role as a medium machinegun on a tripod. Adjustable ROF aswel(500 and 800 rounds a minute)

Thought it was the ZB mag mg. And that thing looks too heavy. I rather have a lafette.