Don't know why I never saw this or weighed in on it. Been a while since I played the 16 of this map, but last week when we played on it, it reminded me of the problems it has. Hopefully bumping this can bring it some attention and maybe ever spawn a feedback section of it

I'd echo all of Chrisitie's statements about how the map plays out.
Imo tho I wouldn't just do away with the Bridge flag. I think it could actually be a fun flag to fight over and I think it should just be fixed so when the teams are split between the two flags, nobody bleeds. For this map I think fighting over the two flags could really help the overwhelming S-Mine defense of the Mont flag. Now a SL can't just sit at Mont and wait for the other team to bleed out. At least it would give incentive to venture out and attack to make the other team bleed.

However, if the bridge flag is done away with. I would maybe like to see one pickup kit spawn on Mont with S-Mines for whatever team caps it. Just one between the two teams to make the flag a bit more accessible. The Recon kit can maybe be replaced with an M1A1 carbine with grenades (gotta keep that M1A1 )

I hope this map does get updated tho. It's been a staple of WAW Thursdays for a while. It'd be interesting to see it made to be fought over two flags or at least polished to remove the useless flag.

P.S. the 32 layer of this map is very good and a real fan favorite on Thursday    

There's the RPG-43 I was waiting for

I love it when the Conspiracies Thread heats up lets keep stoking the fire!
and have the devs crush our dreams

We all remember this little beauty from page 99:

Hinting at signs of early war France
(Seth?) apparently made some other skins for it as well.
Balkans

Polizei

PzAbt100

Wurfrahmen

(some assembly required )

What maps could these all be used on?.... conspire

P.S. REALLY sexy skins Seth

The crap you guys find I swear to God is Taranov still doing research for the team?

That's an AP mine you blundering idiot
(Sorry for the "blundering idiot" part, I just had to. No offence meant)

None taken but what AP Mine is that? I've never seen a Russian one.

It's a 1945 type kit layout. The at kit has PPS43 + Panzerfaust 30, but the icon isn't done yet. The engineer and NCO weapons is a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine, which was used at the end of the war.

I also have no idea what AT weapons the Russians fielded in WW2. There were the AT grenades and mines and of course the AT rifles. But other than a Lend Lease Bazooka or a captured faust, did the Russians have anything handheld and propelled?

Actually just saw that yesterday: (first time in 2.46)


To put it in perspective tho the Brit team was much better than the Germans and had been crushing them the past 2 rounds. Some of the admins on the other end were getting frustrated. And you can see it took us till about 90ish tickets to cap them out. They even capped PeB back twice and made us backtrack to get it before we finally managed to get into WN57. We had some really good SLs on our team

Although I don't see a real suggestion in your post, I think I agree with what you're thinking about. I believe that there should be a discussion about a lot of the maps and how they weren't designed for the higher player count. Maybe this thread can become a good place for devs and players to discuss some possible compromises or designs to deal with this disconnect.

I've thought about this problem on and off before; the only thing I've come up with is the addition of a new map layer that is made for 100ish players. (16/32/64/100 player layers) Although you run into problems implementing larger map layers and where this problem might fall on the devs priority list. Maybe if the community comes up with map specific ways to accommodate 100ish players, it would lighten the load on the critical thinking the devs need to put in to make this a possibility.

I do think this is a good discussion to have tho; because as it stands currently there are a lot of 64 versions of maps that can't accommodate the player numbers the server allows.   

Could you expand this area of the map?
So the "counterattack" could spread out the tanks more.

Everything else on this map is nice. 

After a long time seeing this map in rotation I can agree with this, I've only seen the counterattack work once. (maybe?) I just don't think there's enough room to take on a tiger+88+whole German army head on. The Americans need to flank.

It's an epic map otherwise from the loadouts to the paint schemes to the way the map looks and plays. VERY well done.