Hi all,

Like most of you I'm having great fun with the new patch. I was playing around with the panzerfausts and boy they did feel powerful, blowing up shermans now in 1 shot as long as the angle is right.

When I started on the German side on Lebisey I managed to grab a schreck and went out to ambush some shermans. I hit one on the frontal hull armor, it survived and blew me up. I went back to grab a new schrek, hit a second sherman on the side turret, no kill. Grabbed a schreck again and the situation repeated. So 3 schreck hits, no shermans killed and I gave up.

A test on a local server confirmed the panzerschreck does less damage than the panzerfaust. They only 1 hit kill on the hull side and hull rear. This might purely be a balance thing as in real life the schreck has similar penetration. Now as the panzerschreck is only available as pickup kit I think it shouldn't be nerfed. With 200mm penetration a hit on a sherman at a good angle should always kill it, or you end up dying. (if you have more information feel free to prove me wrong)

What do you guys think about this, needed balance or should this be fixed? Maybe the range can be decreased a bit instead!

Actually, you're dead wrong.  FH isn't scaled in distance, thus why rifles can and will hit someone at fog distance with an aimed shot.  The only scaling is in distance between objectives. size of towns, etc.  However the distance you are shooting ingame and the drop, penetration, etc, is all actual distance.

The penetration rage is scaled, otherwise alot tanks would be almost equal since combat range ingame is mostly around 300m. If tank guns have realistic penetration according to the distance ingame the performance of tanks relative to eachother would feel the same. (not counting extreme cases like crusader 2 vs tiger ofc...) That's how the system works, maybe a dev can confirm this?

I like the new system, reducing the number of 1s1k situations makes combat more exciting. You have to take in mind the scaled distances, 300m ingame is like 600+ meters IRl. Fh2 doesn't have 1,5 km viewdistance so this is a good tradeoff. 2 shots at 300m more or less equals a chance of 1/2 to penetrate and destroy a tank at 600m, that's how I see it anyway. I never had any problems with close to medium range sherman vs P4 encounters, shots did do little damage occasionally but those were always at sharp angles, like to the side of the sherman turret. Same goes for the panther. Even if you are positioned at 90 from a sherman it doesn't mean your shot will hit the sherman at 90 depending on where you aim, with all the round surfaces.

Anyway I think this is a step in the right direction. Maybe the 90mm, 88mm and long 75 can be buffed a bit, since they did have more hitting power than currently ingame.

I originally posted this as my view on artillery effectiveness mod-wide. People seem to be fine with it generally so it was narrowed down to arty on small maps like Brest, but not Brest solely. Someone mentioned arty on 16 player maps as well, and for example artillery on the bridge on PHL can get quite cumbersome too the the neberwerfer + mortars target it. And oh god Rawhide wants more artillery

artillery not only kills many, but also serves as a tremendous morale breaker. so these players' frustrations confirms that this platform is working just fine.

I am amazed how people like a gameplay element that uses frustration and breaking of morale of a person playing a game just because "it used to be like this in the war". A game is a game and it needs to be fun. When a tank spawnkills me I grab an antitank kit or another tank and I go kill the bastard. When I get spawnraped by mortars I go ... kill him behind ABC lines?

Seriously it doesn't take a genius to zero the dials in and watch where your shells land. It needs a good spot though, which you get loads of anyway since there are points associated with it and the number of spotting kits available (mostly squadleaders). Maybe if the artilleryman had to rely more on the spotter to tell him where his shells landed more teamwork would be needed and rewarded, and killing the spotter would truly hamper the effectiveness of the artilleryman.

Hi guys,

I personally dislike the amount and destructiveness of the artillery alot. For me getting sent back to the timeout screen repeatedly 5 seconds after you spawn gets old really fast. While it does provide atmosphere and is needed to break through defenses on certain locations, some maps (Brest, PHL, Meuse River, etc) go overboard. It's an enemy you can't fight and you are forced to deal with it to cap the flags. If someone shoots you you weren't as fast as him or he was in a better, anyway it's your fault. It adds to the gameplay because it rewards your skill. When you get killed by the artillery you just die randomly because some guy on the other side of the map has god vision of an entire area. You get punished with the timeout screen over and over again.

Therefore the artillery's fire rate, accuracy, power or the number of artillery pieces should be reduced on these maps.

Please vote and share your opinion on the artillery, i really wonder if I'm the only one here