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Title: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 17-02-2018, 21:02:21
Due to the lack of interest from dev team in making FH2 standalone, I decided to create installer which would simplify FH2 installation process, which is, from my experience, very tedious and counterintuitive, especially when compared to Project Reality.
 
Features

Downloads:

Instructions:

Preview:
(http://i.imgur.com/lUJFoId.png) (https://imgur.com/lUJFoId.png)(http://i.imgur.com/qyJO0Kc.png) (https://imgur.com/qyJO0Kc.png)(http://i.imgur.com/QZGIg5N.png) (https://imgur.com/QZGIg5N.png)


Credits to:


The source code for the installer can be found here (https://github.com/radiosmersh/FH2Installer).
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 18-02-2018, 16:02:55
 Brilliant!!!

 Will this be periodically updated when new content is added?

Great Job RADIOSMERSH!!
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 18-02-2018, 16:02:33
Brilliant!!!

 Will this be periodically updated when new content is added?

Great Job RADIOSMERSH!!
Thank you! Yes, I'm planning to update it when the next patch will come out, which I hope will happen soon.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-02-2018, 17:02:45
Are the mentioned map packs optional or does it install everything there is?
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 18-02-2018, 18:02:28
Are the mentioned map packs optional or does it install everything there is?
I considered making them optional, but decided to include them in the main installation and here is why: CMP is de facto part of the FH2 now, because you can't play online without it and Coop mappack adds a feature original release is missing. And actually, one of the reasons that inspired me to create this installer was the endless stream of questions in our Russian FH2 community (https://vk.com/forgottenhope) literally like "Where can I find the Red Army?" (obviously, players were looking for EF maps in singleplayer, but there were none).
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: colores on 20-02-2018, 20:02:36
Good work Radiosmersh!

Includes BF2?
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Vietcong rus on 20-02-2018, 20:02:12
RADIOSMERSH

Good job! Russian-speaking players will be happy!

(http://a.radikal.ru/a21/1802/9e/27b41669e94f.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 20-02-2018, 20:02:36
Good work Radiosmersh!

Includes BF2?
Yes, but in a very truncated form: bare minimum required to play FH2. I deleted all unnecessary files, including levels folder, to minimize the size of the installer. Sorry, I should probably stated it more clearly in the description, will do it now.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Leopardi on 20-02-2018, 21:02:57
Are the mentioned map packs optional or does it install everything there is?
I considered making them optional, but decided to include them in the main installation and here is why: CMP is de facto part of the FH2 now, because you can't play online without it
Sure you can on non-CMP server, I haven't installed CMP and won't install it.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-02-2018, 22:02:53
Are the mentioned map packs optional or does it install everything there is?
I considered making them optional, but decided to include them in the main installation and here is why: CMP is de facto part of the FH2 now, because you can't play online without it
Sure you can on non-CMP server, I haven't installed CMP and won't install it.
Exactly this. And I found you saying that CMP is part of the FH2 now a bit offensive to be honest. It's not. It should be clearly stated. I don't mind additional bot support for 4 EF maps being included in this as it only a small addon to the official maps, but CMP should be optional.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-02-2018, 23:02:34
Are the mentioned map packs optional or does it install everything there is?
I considered making them optional, but decided to include them in the main installation and here is why: CMP is de facto part of the FH2 now, because you can't play online without it
Sure you can on non-CMP server, I haven't installed CMP and won't install it.
Exactly this. And I found you saying that CMP is part of the FH2 now a bit offensive to be honest. It's not. It should be clearly stated. I don't mind additional bot support for 4 EF maps being included in this as it only a small addon to the official maps, but CMP should be optional.

 Take it easy there Jan, im sure he meant its "included along with" FH2.


 ::)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-02-2018, 23:02:14
Doesn't matter as long as installer doesn't ask you if you want it and install it all together with FH2 stock content. And don't get me wrong, it's a great initiative and I love this makes FH2 "standalone". All I ask is an option to tick a box if you want installer add community made content to the mod.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: VonMudra on 21-02-2018, 04:02:43
Gotta agree with Jan.  Great effort, just needs tweaks like that.  FH2's CMP stuff is not an official part of the mod and should remain optional.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Stubbfan on 21-02-2018, 09:02:50
 ::) Installer is not official either. You can always delete the maps.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 21-02-2018, 14:02:23
Also, afaik, every CMP map is clearly labeled as such on the maps loading screen.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: PapillonFH on 21-02-2018, 18:02:28
It's not like the CMP maps are infectious  ::)
Just delete them, or don't join a server with them, or both.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: RAnDOOm on 21-02-2018, 18:02:39
Great work RADIOSMERSH.

I applaud you for the initiative. Well done!   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: GeoPat on 21-02-2018, 19:02:43
Great job RADIO!

This is something that we've been waiting for.  It will certainly make things easier for the next tournament.

I recently experimented with putting FH2 inside of Project Reality.  I was able to play on the multiplayer server no problem.  I also used a chopped down version of mods/bf2 and had to add a few files to the main Project Reality folder.  I couldn't get local server to run, but I know anything.  I bet we could easily make an installer to install it into PR and give those players the option to play this great mod.  Probably an unofficial installer like this is the best way to go.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Leopardi on 21-02-2018, 22:02:53
It's not like the CMP maps are infectious  ::)
Just delete them, or don't join a server with them, or both.
Or, just have the tick box in the installler  :P
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: PapillonFH on 22-02-2018, 08:02:06
Whatever helps to get through the day  8)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Hawk2k9 on 22-02-2018, 08:02:49
its not like its included in the .iso you have to download, anyway. You might aswell install them.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 22-02-2018, 22:02:53
It's not like the CMP maps are infectious  ::)
Just delete them, or don't join a server with them, or both.
Or, just have the tick box in the installler  :P
Doesn't matter as long as installer doesn't ask you if you want it and install it all together with FH2 stock content. And don't get me wrong, it's a great initiative and I love this makes FH2 "standalone". All I ask is an option to tick a box if you want installer add community made content to the mod.
Gotta agree with Jan.  Great effort, just needs tweaks like that.  FH2's CMP stuff is not an official part of the mod and should remain optional.
Alright, I'll make it optional in next iterations in the installer, though I guess that, in the light of an upcoming patch, that won't be needed for some time, since it'll take some time for CMP guys to update the mappack for it.
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 23-02-2018, 23:02:42
Nice, brilliant, excellent!

I wish there was a +rep button
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 24-02-2018, 02:02:57
It's not like the CMP maps are infectious  ::)
Just delete them, or don't join a server with them, or both.
Or, just have the tick box in the installler  :P
Doesn't matter as long as installer doesn't ask you if you want it and install it all together with FH2 stock content. And don't get me wrong, it's a great initiative and I love this makes FH2 "standalone". All I ask is an option to tick a box if you want installer add community made content to the mod.
Gotta agree with Jan.  Great effort, just needs tweaks like that.  FH2's CMP stuff is not an official part of the mod and should remain optional.
Alright, I'll make it optional in next iterations in the installer, though I guess that, in the light of an upcoming patch, that won't be needed for some time, since it'll take some time for CMP guys to update the mappack for it.

Yeah, i can see where Jan is coming from now, but its an easy solution.

Create a little check box for CMP maps & release a test version for public testing.
Then when the new patch is released & CMP updates, voila u have the working blueprint!!!

 Are you planning on adding background loading music and graphics while its installing?


 Thanks again RADIOSMERSH from all of the FH2 standalone fans.

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/24110614/genius-genius-everywhere.jpg)
 8)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: Alubat on 24-02-2018, 14:02:03
Nice.
Some questions

.I guess not every pc has 11gb free space on c/ drive. Is it possible to choose other drive for install ?

.Will the install mess up other bf2 installs ?

.Does installer work on all windows platforms like Xp, win7 ..win 10 ?

Good job :-)
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 24-02-2018, 18:02:25
.I guess not every pc has 11gb free space on c/ drive. Is it possible to choose other drive for install ?
Yeah, sure.
.Will the install mess up other bf2 installs ?
Well, Key Manager that pops up after files extraction can change CD-key in registry, but only if being told to. Other than that you're safe, unless you point the installer to the folder with existing BF2 installlation  ;D.
.Does installer work on all windows platforms like Xp, win7 ..win 10 ?
Yes, all Windows versions above XP SP3 are supported. Haven't tried installing it on Linux though, but I'ms ure it'll run there too.

Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: AfterDune on 27-02-2018, 14:02:25
Love the initiative, great job! This will surely help to get new players on board quickly :).

Does this come with the FH2 launcher as well? I can't remember if that was part of the FH2 installer, since it's been installed for so long now :D.

I don't mind CMP maps being part of the installer. If anything, new players have them by default, so whatever server they join, it'll just work, which I think is the greatest benefit here.

Anyway, something you could potentially consider is to also include the CMP Updater (or whatever it's called), with which you can update the CMP maps and some custom content. That's obviously beyond the scope of your original idea, but something to perhaps think about.

Thanks again for the initiative, I will surely use this to convince people to start playing FH2 ;).
Title: Re: Unofficial Complete FH2 Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 27-02-2018, 19:02:55
Does this come with the FH2 launcher as well? I can't remember if that was part of the FH2 installer, since it's been installed for so long now :D.
Yes, it is an essential part of FH2 nowadays.

Anyway, something you could potentially consider is to also include the CMP Updater (or whatever it's called), with which you can update the CMP maps and some custom content. That's obviously beyond the scope of your original idea, but something to perhaps think about.
Actually, CMP updater is already included, I forgot to mention that in the description. The desktop icon for it is created if the appropriate checkbox in the installer is selected.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 27-02-2018, 20:02:54
Are you planning on adding background loading music and graphics while its installing?
That's definitely in my to-do list, but right now I'm experimenting with compression algorithms that have good compression ratio but aren't too resource-demanding at the same time. Currently, installer isn't compressed at all, because the space saved due to built-in Inno setup compression (LZMA2) (maximum I was able to achieve is 400 Mb ) is not worth the stress put on CPU during extraction.

Create a little check box for CMP maps & release a test version for public testing.
Then when the new patch is released & CMP updates, voila u have the working blueprint!!!
I might release an intermediate version just to test new features I mentioned above, but only if I finish it before the release of the patch.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Comrade Roe on 01-03-2018, 00:03:18
So if it includes the FH2 launcher, does this mean I can basically one and done install this and be ready to play? Assuming next update doesn't do something funny, I won't have to reinstall this for it to continue working still?
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: radiosmersh on 01-03-2018, 22:03:40
So if it includes the FH2 launcher, does this mean I can basically one and done install this and be ready to play?  Assuming next update doesn't do something funny, I won't have to reinstall this for it to continue working still?
Yes, that is exactly why I created it. You will be able to update the FH2 through the launcher once the patch is released, just as usual.

Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: x4fun ODIUM on 04-03-2018, 22:03:09
Dear Everyone,

just a reply from our side, since I just had to clean up a link to this thread here.

In the [762] forums, we do not distribute ways to:

a) circumvent bans (which this software is).
b) to download a copyrighted game, which BF2 still is.

We already have enough problems with people behaving like madmen or cheating on our servers.

There is a reason that battlelog.co was closed down BY REQUEST OF EA Games.
See for yourself: https://battlelog.co/
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/10/ea-shuts-down-fan-run-servers-for-older-battlefield-games/

Step 2 would have been a lawsuit. We cannot afford to have that at [762] .
If the forums at warumdarum.de want to risk that, it is their business.

You can contact each other via PM, but we will delete any reference to distribution links of copyrighted material in our forums.

If there ever is a legal, self made standalone for an Forgotten Hope game, we will gladly spread the word, that is no question. We just hope that there will be a new CD Key- or other security system with it, because if not it will be next to impossible to run a decent server without having lots of admins watching it every evening and re-banning the trouble makers over and over again (what we are doing right now).

Regards,
x4fun I<ODIUM>I
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 05-03-2018, 16:03:09
As far as I understand it, there is only a small part of BF2 included. Maps and more are missing, so the download does not enable you to play BF2. Battlelog was shut down because they provided the complete BF2 game to play for free and also used official EA / BF2 logos on their website.

The cd key issue is also not really a new problem. You can use whatever cd key since the official gamespy servers went down.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Oberst on 05-03-2018, 22:03:42
Stupid question, but how does PR standalone work? And arent they as long there, as ReviveBf2
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: GeoPat on 05-03-2018, 22:03:38
It's best not to stir this pot.

It was my mistake posting the link here on the server forum to help someone who received the inevitable bad-key/insta-ban that most newcomers get.

Just don't post the link over there.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Alubat on 05-03-2018, 23:03:49
Its not impossible to buy a used or sealed BF2 cd with no key or with a banned key.
How to change key should not be a problem.

Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: x4fun ODIUM on 06-03-2018, 22:03:51
Hello again,

since we had yet another request of a player that has "never played FH2" ever before and just "downloaded the game" to be unbanned, I will copy my reply to him, that we gave in our forums, into this forum here as well so you guys can see it.

"Alright guys, it is simple.

If you get your game and CD key from an unofficial download, from a CD key generator, you have to take into account the fact, that the keygenerator is not that good and that CD Keys do repeat. So if you get a key that someone else has already used on our servers to break the rules, cheat, hack or spread racism, then this key will of course stay banned.

It is your responsibility to obtain your original game and key and not share it with anyone, so you do not get banned for somebody else's actions.

Because of the fact that we do not have a livestream into your living room and we cannot prove  or disprove that it was not you in the first place, who got banned with the old key, we do not feel obliged to remove banned keys from our ban list. They are on it for a reason.

You may ask the people who spread this downloading and key generating tool for assistance. But it is not our responsibility to fix the problems that arise from the use of repeatedly generated CD keys."
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: fighterpil on 31-03-2018, 20:03:34
This is awesome! Thank you for providing a much needed update to FH2. I'll have to try it out soon! :)
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Lydecker on 11-04-2018, 12:04:15
Hmmm... just bumped into this and I think FH2 is going to be on my playlist again. I'm just about had it with PUBG anyway :p
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Chad1992 on 17-04-2018, 23:04:01
So I installed FH2 on my new pc using this.  The installer worked good and the game runs fine in single player.  The only thing ive noticed is I get a lot of internet connection issues when playing online.  I have good internet speed and generally have a ping of around 120 on euro servers.  Any idea if the problem good be linked to this or is it something else.  I have not tried hooking up through ethernet.  I will try my old pc which has fh2 installed via a full bf2 install.  I use to play that no problem on an even slower internet speed.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Balloon with mustard on 20-04-2018, 13:04:57
Chad1992 try tracert and ping commands to check for lags and possible packet loss. Check your firewall settings for FH2 application.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Chad1992 on 24-04-2018, 18:04:18
So it seems that my internet connection drops randomly but only when I am playing FH2.  I can watch HD youtube vids and use the internet all day long with no issues.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 24-04-2018, 18:04:22
Youtube and some surfing is not a proper test to see if you have stable internet connection.
I would first try some other multiplayer games to see if your internet connection has a general problem or if its just fh2/762 server?
Also try switching from wifi to ethernet if you can, as it may also be a wifi problem.
Title: Re: Unofficial FH2 Standalone (almost) Installer
Post by: Chad1992 on 24-04-2018, 19:04:57
Youtube and some surfing is not a proper test to see if you have stable internet connection.
I would first try some other multiplayer games to see if your internet connection has a general problem or if its just fh2/762 server?
Also try switching from wifi to ethernet if you can, as it may also be a wifi problem.
Yea I hooked up an ethernet cable I had and was able to play a round with no issues.  So now I just have to figure out if its my laptop or the router itself.