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Title: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 27-09-2015, 14:09:22
Just another render.

Pulling Power


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Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-09-2015, 15:09:35
Armoured assault tractor
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 27-09-2015, 15:09:56
Towable AT's and AA's
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Korsakov829 on 27-09-2015, 16:09:08
Horse.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: gamerjer on 27-09-2015, 17:09:02
my guess a soviet tractor :P
(https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/media/managed/large/05539.png)
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kinryu on 27-09-2015, 17:09:12
An STZ or Voroshilovetz!
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Airshark79 on 27-09-2015, 17:09:57
quad maxim
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Oberst on 27-09-2015, 18:09:49
German Maultier?
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: gamerjer on 27-09-2015, 21:09:25
lol GJ that was unexpected :) always nice to see a new vehicle ;D keep em comming :P
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-09-2015, 10:09:26
Nice! But you put it for Finns and not for Russ? Is that because Russ didnt use it in late war?
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 28-09-2015, 15:09:50
Finnish and the Russian variant were in the render..
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-09-2015, 15:09:36
Will the driver control the machine gun, or does it need a no. 2 like the Bren carrier?
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 28-09-2015, 15:09:30
Will the driver control the machine gun, or does it need a no. 2 like the Bren carrier?

It's arranged like a Bren Carrier, yes.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-09-2015, 17:09:26
Finnish and the Russian variant were in the render..
No, under Vehicles in FOrgotten hope site there is in Finland,but not in Russia.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LazMan12 on 28-09-2015, 17:09:16
This is a real gem, I love you guys! I did have some suspitions after that map loadscreen with the finnish Komsomolets pulling the PaK 40, but didn't really expect it featured.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-09-2015, 17:09:09
Nice, cant wait to mow down everyone sitting on it without any protection with my MG ;D

How many seats does it have?
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Slayer on 28-09-2015, 17:09:26
Finnish and the Russian variant were in the render..
No, under Vehicles in FOrgotten hope site there is in Finland,but not in Russia.
That just means it is not on a Russian map (yet).
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Oberst on 28-09-2015, 18:09:04
Can the driver or gunner be shot out? Else I see a perfect squadleader mothership for less vehicle heavy maps.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Slayer on 28-09-2015, 21:09:58
Can the driver or gunner be shot out?
As long as you aim right ;)
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-09-2015, 23:09:21
You sure? AFAIK the cabin is closed.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Slayer on 29-09-2015, 00:09:20
You sure? AFAIK the cabin is closed.
Mmm, maybe I just thought of the passengers.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-09-2015, 01:09:53
Can the driver or gunner be shot out? Else I see a perfect squadleader mothership for less vehicle heavy maps.

driver & gunner can't be shot out. But this is still fairly light skinned. More or less just like a UC. AT rifles can easily take this out
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Oberst on 29-09-2015, 10:09:55
Can the driver or gunner be shot out? Else I see a perfect squadleader mothership for less vehicle heavy maps.

driver & gunner can't be shot out. But this is still fairly light skinned. More or less just like a UC. AT rifles can easily take this out

used correctly, a bren carrier is a very potent and dangerous enemy  ;)

In the end you still have an (lightly) armoured, mobile enemy, which you can't take out with rifle fire.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 30-09-2015, 00:09:46
I've never had a problem with a UC being a SL spawn vehicle tbh. In the end it's up to map balance making the weapons available to the other team to deal with these things. Imo there's plenty of anti-T20 weapons available to the other team on the map it's used :)
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-09-2015, 16:09:36
I think this vehicle could make a good mobile spawnpoint vehicle, just like the US halftrack on Op. Cobra.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 30-09-2015, 20:09:22
I think this vehicle could make a good mobile spawnpoint vehicle, just like the US halftrack on Op. Cobra.

Sammatus is a relatively small map, so these T20 APCs will not fit that way. :)
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 03-10-2015, 13:10:39
Nice little tractor. :D
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 11-10-2015, 00:10:18
Can it pull anything ? Maybe I'm thinking of bf 1942.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: gamerjer on 11-10-2015, 15:10:03
Can it pull anything ? Maybe I'm thinking of bf 1942.
as far as i know i once saw a fh2 dev say that the bf2 engine does not support pulling cannons and these kind of things, they said it was only possible in bf1942 engine and bf2142 engine and that they had more possibilities in bf2142 engine dunno if that was a hint to port the game but if it was (probably not)  they could make it a standalone right away from bf2142 engine for a win win situation =-p anyways i should quit dreaming now :p XD
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 11-10-2015, 16:10:22
Can it pull anything ? Maybe I'm thinking of bf 1942.
as far as i know i once saw a fh2 dev say that the bf2 engine does not support pulling cannons and these kind of things, they said it was only possible in bf1942 engine and bf2142 engine and that they had more possibilities in bf2142 engine dunno if that was a hint to port the game but if it was (probably not)  they could make it a standalone right away from bf2142 engine for a win win situation =-p anyways i should quit dreaming now :p XD

I suppose it could be hitched to an AT gun model permanently - as one big model. Don't know about hinging though. Then the vehicle deploys the AT gun by swinging around so its pointing the right way but stays attached to it. The AT gun firing position is just another slot in the vehicle - its all one big vehicle model. Dreaming again  ::).
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LazMan12 on 12-10-2015, 15:10:00
Can it pull anything ? Maybe I'm thinking of bf 1942.
as far as i know i once saw a fh2 dev say that the bf2 engine does not support pulling cannons and these kind of things, they said it was only possible in bf1942 engine and bf2142 engine and that they had more possibilities in bf2142 engine dunno if that was a hint to port the game but if it was (probably not)  they could make it a standalone right away from bf2142 engine for a win win situation =-p anyways i should quit dreaming now :p XD
I think you are right, some time ago I so a video showing an Opel blitz with a flak 38 attached to it permanently  :)


I suppose it could be hitched to an AT gun model permanently - as one big model. Don't know about hinging though. Then the vehicle deploys the AT gun by swinging around so its pointing the right way but stays attached to it. The AT gun firing position is just another slot in the vehicle - its all one big vehicle model. Dreaming again  ::).
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-10-2015, 20:10:01
Porting game on bf2142 engine isnt that big problem. Biggiest problem are all problems and bugs in bf2142 engine that are not knowed to devs and that they would need to take care on.


Is there any video of towed gun from bf1942 or bf2142? I just want to see.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-10-2015, 20:10:41
Is there any video of towed gun from bf1942 or bf2142? I just want to see.
No. It doesn't work. They had "towed" guns in FHSW, but it's bugged as hell.
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-10-2015, 23:10:20
No. It doesn't work. They had "towed" guns in FHSW, but it's bugged as hell.

It's bugged in Bf2 or what? Last time I checked towed guns work pretty damn fine in FHSW. Although not that elegant looking with that "disappear then reappear in towed position" thing, they work exactly as intended: you can leave them anywhere you want, and you can drive close to the dropped ones and pick them up and tow them away...
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: gamerjer on 12-10-2015, 23:10:16
Porting game on bf2142 engine isnt that big problem. Biggiest problem are all problems and bugs in bf2142 engine that are not knowed to devs and that they would need to take care on.


Is there any video of towed gun from bf1942 or bf2142? I just want to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEzUQxUqimw
i see on this video the glider was towed by a plane in fh1
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-10-2015, 23:10:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEzUQxUqimw
i see on this video the glider was towed by a plane in fh1

Yeah IIRC the limitations of bf2 are with the terrain and how the vehicles respond to it. A towed gun would get damaged by the terrain a lot!

The air stuff would maybe have less problems with that, especially if they already spawn in the air... So Market Garden with towed gliders, anyone?  :P
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Korsakov829 on 13-10-2015, 00:10:26
Is there any video of towed gun from bf1942 or bf2142? I just want to see.
No. It doesn't work. They had "towed" guns in FHSW, but it's bugged as hell.

always such a downer....
Title: Re: Pulling Power - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: gamerjer on 13-10-2015, 11:10:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEzUQxUqimw
i see on this video the glider was towed by a plane in fh1

Yeah IIRC the limitations of bf2 are with the terrain and how the vehicles respond to it. A towed gun would get damaged by the terrain a lot!

The air stuff would maybe have less problems with that, especially if they already spawn in the air... So Market Garden with towed gliders, anyone?  :P
haha yeah +1 would be a nice idea, in the unofficial fh2 catania map you can jump out of a flying douglas dc3 it flys around the map so i guess it wont be impossible to make paratrooper stuff :D however gliders would be awesome :D but im afraid it also requires to much work for the team to do so, but this is also something that would be really nice for fh2 if the eastern front is finished :D
to do list after the eastern front:
retire?
or
standalone fh2
a market garden map with gliders and paratroopers
and pacific with naval warfare :D
 
never gonna happen i guess :P im dreaming again ::)
we will wait and see whats gonna happen after the eastern front is finished :p