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What?
Regular weekly game night on the official stats-enabled server (VBIOS, FHT or others). In comparison, North American players have tradition of gathering every Thursday (and sometimes Friday) to play (before on WOLF servers, and now on WaW server), and as such people always know that there is at least one or two nights a week, when they are guaranteed to find players on an active server with active admins. Such game night can be coincident with some open event once in awhile on stock maps with official stats.
Why?
Many people do not care where to play, but there is a sizeable group of players who, for various reasons, do not play on (frequently busy) 762 servers, or prefer an alternative if they can. The reasons could be: desire to play with official stats, players could prefer different set of rules, map list, administration style, etc.
This initiative is in no way targeted against 762 community, but our experience and conversations with many players had shown, that there is a need for alternative servers that need to be supported, so that the once popular servers such as WOLF or HSLAN would not disappear. Also, giving the players who do not play on 762 servers (a surprising many) an ability to regularly participate in public play would increase the active player base, and increase popularity of FH2
How?
We had organized the public opinion poll, where players choose week days and time intervals most convenient for them (European evenings), and also additional questions relating to the tournaments and statistics (official v. 762). Note that this poll would be posted in various forums, but one needs to participate only once.
Instructions
The poll is given in English to reach as many players as possible. If some questions are unclear after reading these instructions, we could help. It would be welcome, if the word about this survey would be spread around different language communities and instructions would be translated.
Follow the link to FH2 European weekly game night poll (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QNe5Eyw9RCqoRLbjMCmSrS6-flGU7_-KKfZAVJ5RjQc/viewform) (Important: after submitting the form, save the link for editing your answer. Unfortunately, the way the Google Docs works, errors and duplicate answers can only be fixed manually in a spreadsheet, and automatic results (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QNe5Eyw9RCqoRLbjMCmSrS6-flGU7_-KKfZAVJ5RjQc/viewanalytics) would remain ruined/skewed).
- Days. Note that while the weekends seems an obvious choice, week nights could be even more successful, because on the weekend people participate in tournaments, party, leave town on holiday, and so forth.
- Time. Time is given in arbitrary two-hour intervals in UTC. Use time-zone converter to see how those intervals relate to your zone.
- Tournaments. Indicate if you participate in popular FH2 tournaments, and if you can participate in public play even during an active campaign (for some people once a week is enough, while others can do both tournaments and public).
- Statistics. Note your attitude in relation to official stats and 762 stats: do you avoid 762 altogether (for various reasons), do you prefer official statistics, or you do not care either way, but would like to have a choice of maps and servers on any given day.
P. S. Please, spread the word about this poll in social networks, if you think this is a good idea. We would also like to hear the input from the developers to see their attitude towards this initiative, and if it would merit official blessing.
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Push!
There have been many thoughts shared at Forgotten Honor about this and many players agreed that they like to have an alternative way of playing FH2 and would like to have some kind of gamenight.
Really no offense to 762 here. I regularly play on 762 again, but this project might strenghten the playerbase and bring some people back into FH2 that have given up on it. It's for FH2 in general, not about competition with 762 or something.
I really hope that this idea makes its way to a weekly gamenight for many people to enjoy. If you are interested in this in any kind of way, fill in the survey Ug posted.
Here's the link again: SURVEY (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QNe5Eyw9RCqoRLbjMCmSrS6-flGU7_-KKfZAVJ5RjQc/viewform)
I fully support this. Spread the word and keep this thread alive so potentially interested players see it!
cheers
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Again, reminder: please, be careful with voting, and save the link for editing your vote. We just had several possible duplicate votes, or people adjusting their vote without editing, and it is hard to identify without nicknames especially. But know, that if you trying to influence the vote by multiple voting, we will hunt you down, and kill…, er, detect and remove suspicious votes. It ruins pretty results graphs.
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I put my vote in, even though technically I'm not in Europe, I more or less share the same geographical time.
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Update: I had noticed that few people put earlier time intervals, so I had added 16:00 to 18:00 (UTC) interval to the time section. If anyone who wanted earlier times saved the edit link, they could edit their vote and check that time interval too to show those answers on the results page. I reiterate, however, this is UTC, not necessarily your local time, so make sure to convert.
In general, I am pleasantly surprised with the response so far. However, that makes me wonder: where all these people were before, we could be populating the servers all the time. :) This survey shall go on for couple of weeks to a month to encompass as many players as possible (especially, inactive), but we could start trying some of these days shortly, maybe even this upcoming Sunday, and next Wednesday (as the poll stands now).
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I put my vote in, even though technically I'm not in Europe, I more or less share the same geographical time.
Obviously, geographically it does not matter, one can be from Trinidad, Guinea-Bissau, Fiji or North Korea, so long they are willing to show up during European evenings. We are just as happy to see you here, as we are happy to see you at WaW Thursdays. :)
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I still believe some type of weekly event would draw allot of players.
Lets say for example WAW Thursdays:
1 week would be a British Night with all British maps
2nd week an All American Night ect
Objective night
Another could be tank night, maybe infy night
Having run BF1942 campaigns for my previous clan 5thMR, we found formats wildly successful.
My schedule varies & im not European, but i will vote. (Why exclude America?)
;)
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We would like to help this out, but we have Tournament covering Thursday's-Friday's. Any other day, we will happy to host this every week.
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^ He's talking about Forgotten Honor community hosting the server, in case you are wondering.
My schedule varies & im not European, but i will vote. (Why exclude America?)
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I don't think America gets excluded. It's an European gamenight mainly because the intention was to make it happen at European time and especially on an Europen server. You can still choose the time you can participate in the survey. Furthermore this can be very international. It's just that earlier many Europeans are going to play and later on some Americans might join, while numbers of Europeans decreases. But you might profit, because some Europeans might want to stay longer than usual.
So the main factor is that this will be based on a European server (or Russian, which would be rather subpar though, especially for Americans) Also the thought was that you have the American gamenights and that Europe can need something like that too, which does only naturally handicap you due to higher ping and problems with the time you can play.
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Push!
We can't afford to miss anyone who is potentially interested in this ;)
Fill in the survey if you like the idea and want it to happen!
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To get the ball rolling, based on the votes so far, we going to start testing this idea in practise as such: VBIOS server would host Saturday and Sunday (that means this Saturday, that means, tonight), while [F|H] server would take over Wednesday. We need people who all say they are eager to play to actually come up and play. To not leave the server if the seeder people are AFK. Just stick around get the game going.
I am not too sure about turnout today, because WaW has a battle (I, for one, shall be there), and it is a short notice, but we need to start trying, so we are going to start gathering on VBIOS server tonight, and tomorrow night around 16:00 UTC.
Also, I have high hopes for next Wednesday as well. Mark your calendars.
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I love to play on 762, since years but I think it is great to have a greater variety of maps offered at the same time. I am definately into this.
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I love to play on 762, since years but I think it is great to have a greater variety of maps offered at the same time. I am definately into this.
You are welcome buddy. ;) ;D
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Despise 762(sorry lads, don't like your rules or map list). So I for one would defo welcome this!
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Deek, can you be more specific about map list. A constructive criticism, if you will. I also think that people overplay some maps, and dislike many for no good reason. I really like all the maps, but I am especially excited about maps that are rarely played nowadays (mostly African, of course).
The whole point of this exercise is to give an alternative experience to 762 for those who do not care about official stats as much as some of us do. Server rules, it’s a whole another story. ;)
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If you want to see the maps playing on 762 click below. I am sure we have a good selection of maps depends on what time of day you come in.
http://www.762-ranking.de/fh2stats/?page=info&pid=&ln=en
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Please no discussion of 762 vs Gamenight. This is clearly not the intention. 762 has been changing maplist daily for quite some time if I'm not mistaken and I have no problems with it.
What we want to do is reaching the players that don't play on 762 for any reason and people that like to have an alternative on one day of the week.
Currently there are 47 (53%) people that say they never or almost never play on 762 or public FH2 in general, but are interested in a FH2 gamenight. Some diversity is good for FH2, might bring more players into public play in general and enable people to choose between two servers, which means choosing between two different maps if this becomes succesful.
So I hope you guys don't deride the idea. This is no half-assed attempt, we really want it to happen! So, when you have any opinion to share, any suggestions to make this work, then share your thoughts here, keep the topic alive, tell others about it and most importantly fill in the survey!
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The preliminary results are in. A lot of people understandably want to play on weekends, and we already tried to populate VBIOS server this past Saturday and Sunday with moderate success, given short notice. Although success nonetheless. However, Wednesday also looks like a winner, and it is actually leading thus far.
(http://i.imgur.com/cVLafaC.png)
Wednesday would work great for [F|H] 130-player server (since the trainings for FH2 campaigns are Thursday, and the battle is Friday), but so far we did not get official confirmation ([F|H] bureaucracy still grinding its wheels, nor is the server ready), so the announcement would be made later, with great fanfare and universal rejoicing.
However, we are welcome everyone on VBIOS server Wednesday, June 26th (we hope we’ve worked out some of the technical difficulties, and it would be a good test) at around 16:00 UTC (18:00 German time, 19:00 Moscow time if my calculations are correct). Also, join us in Teamspeak 3 (ts.forgottenhonor.com, Public Gaming > Battlefield > Forgotten Hope 2 channel), and, VBIOS should be 762 Mumble-enabled.
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You can use the server theUg. Starting tonight.
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I wish you good luck with this and I hope that it will work out for the community. To get things started you should make something like a check list and make sure that things work. That's how I would do it:
1st: Make sure you gather a staff of admins (like 10 people for the start) and make sure to give them appropriate rights, such as kicking, warning, banning, global warning, if neccessary mapswitching (be careful with this ;D) as I guess that you lack the nessecary tools that we have on 762 atm.
2nd: This leads directly to the next point: set up some rules. I know *some* people might say you don't need any rules to play FH2, but you should make sure to have a basic set of them. Just take a look at other server hosters how they handle this stuff. There is a lot of stuff you can do, but don't make it too complicated for a start.
3rd: Tbh, if you have a russian server go for a non eurpean time frame only or atleast blend between different time frames. You can try it, but on weekends most people are playing especialy Sunday evening. So for a start you should go somewhere between 762 primetime (wich ends like 12 PM UTC) and WaW. Maybe I am wrong with my estimation, but it is just something that you have to keep in mind.
4th: this is the hard part and I am glad we solved it - the map list. I would not go for predefined map lists as people get bored quite fast. We had this some time and there was always someone complaining that he plays always the same map at the same time. Take all maps into the rotation with all different sizes. That's how we do it and it works fine most of the time and the maps always come in random order. The only constant we have is Anctoville (objective mode) at the start of the map rotation. Choose this carefully to draw in some attention. Don't start with maps like Sidi Rezegh 64 ;D
If you want to play objective maps you should contact Neo and ask him kindly to share is work with you, so you can have them for a nice change. I would not go for british maps only or something like that. Bring in variety and peoply will love it. We use a auto map resizer wich chooses between the different map layers according to the playercount with a threshold. But this only works when you have the objective mode working. You should try to get in contact with a python coder, because that's something you desperatly need, if you want to keep the dice rolling.
Bottomline: I hope this helps you as a first orientation. Be careful with some of these aspects as even on funny gamenights things can go wrong. Good luck for you ;)
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Thank you very much for the input 5hitm4k3r, really appreciated!
We will try to set these things up. Atm it's especially Ug planning. I try to support him as good as I can and a good bunch of other [F|H] (www.forgottenhonor.com (http://www.forgottenhonor.com)) people are also supporting this.
Probably those Forgotten Honor members that are trustworthy and will play the Gamenights a lot will be admins, but as Ug said, we currently still lack some info from the admin staff, as this is not officially organized by the [F|H]- FH2 admin staff. The idea comes from the playerbase.
For the start, it will be difficult to set everything up perfectly of course. I expect it more to be like a test run for the first 2-3 weeks, so all the things you mentioned with the maplist, specific rules etc. might take some time.
What's for sure is that there are dedicated people behind this project that want it to happen and are willing to invest some time into it. So once we really got this going, everything to make the Gamenight interesting and enjoyable for the players will be done.
Again. Fill in the survey and feel free to leave your opinions, ideas and suggestions!
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Well, setting up the F|H server tonight didn't work out that short dated and there are still some things to take care of. Feel free to stop by VBIOS, we are there with a bunch of people right now. But there will be a big announcement for next week soon. So stay tuned!
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I tried joining VBIOS, but I kept getting kicked because of a "communication failure: PnkbstrA.exe" :(
I tried 762 which I could join, but after a short while it turned into a lagfest, so I quit (just now). I think I played some 20 minutes on there.
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Surfbird, can FH2 maps be server side modded?
Just curious.
Ill join events when i am available.
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Hi,
I joined yesterday and it was good fight :)
Usually I played on 762, but if you set regular events I will joint.
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I think we did okay this past weekend and this Wednesday. We’ve seen some people that we haven’t before, including some tournament guys who did not pub as much, at least not with official stats. Still a little underwhelming, but as long as our core group would continue to commit to these nights, people would begin to know that there are always couple nights a week, when they are guaranteed to find some players, and it is ultimately a goal.
It was great to see some 762 people there too, even Odium joined for a minute, allegedly by mistake. ;)
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I joined yesterday and it was good fight :)
Yea, you proved a good opponent. :) By the way, do you know other FH2 Bulgarians like RedOne or Gr1zu? We played with them in the tournament.
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I tried joining VBIOS, but I kept getting kicked because of a "communication failure: PnkbstrA.exe" :(
Yea, we saw you trying and failing, as well as couple other guys. All I can say, try to update/reinstall PB services. I don’t know if server can affect it in anyway, but most of us were playing fine. Check this topic for more: http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17311.msg254308#msg254308
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Unfortunately I don't know them... I am new in the online play, joined to 762 on 17 of May until then I played only on single player regime. Which tournament is it?
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I am new in the online play…
Always nice to see new players. We welcome you, and hope you stick around.
Which tournament is it?
Forgotten Honor (http://forgottenhonor.com) (F|H). We even had them play in our Russian-language regiment. RedOne actually speaks and writes Russian even.
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Thank you! Actually online play is more fun then SP, so I will continue to play when I have a free time.
I know Forgotten Honor, since they contacted with me for permission to use one of my FH2 custom maps.
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Спасибо для информацию. Я изучал русский язык в школе.. ;D
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I had no problems joining the server and played a bit of Cobra and El Alamein. Was good gaming (despite Petruska raping my butt with the MC 202 all the time ;D) but showed one of the things you need to change asap - get some smaller maps (16 and 32 player layers) in the rotation to fill in the server. El Alamein is one of my favortie NA maps but it gets boring quite fast with 8 vs.8 players. There are some very nice 16 player versions for the maps out there and you can give the players a chance to see something that they don't play/see all days. There is a reason why some devs created those layers, so don't miss this opportunity.
Next advise: you should write the server rules in the loading screen and don't just show a link, so that people know what they are up to, or atleast give a hint to use the !rules syntax. This will safe you a lot of discussions and trouble ;)
Other than that - server is running fine and now you "just" need to populate it ;)
@Slayer: there seems to be a problem with your PB. I think we have no PB running on server #4, so that's the reason you could join there but not on the other servers. You just should update it manualy as mentioned above in the comments.
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I tried joining VBIOS, but I kept getting kicked because of a "communication failure: PnkbstrA.exe" :(
Yea, we saw you trying and failing, as well as couple other guys. All I can say, try to update/reinstall PB services. I don’t know if server can affect it in anyway, but most of us were playing fine. Check this topic for more: http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17311.msg254308#msg254308
@Slayer: there seems to be a problem with your PB. I think we have no PB running on server #4, so that's the reason you could join there but not on the other servers. You just should update it manualy as mentioned above in the comments.
Thanks for the advice, guys. I had already tried updating it manually in different ways yesterday (hence my several attempts at joining), but it seems that it is simply the "Run as admin" solution. I tried just now and I could join VBIOS. So I guess it's working now, I mean, afaik it doesn't matter whether there are other players on the server or not.
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get some smaller maps (16 and 32 player layers) in the rotation to fill in the server. El Alamein is one of my favortie NA maps but it gets boring quite fast with 8 vs.8 players. There are some very nice 16 player versions for the maps out there and you can give the players a chance to see something that they don't play/see all days. There is a reason why some devs created those layers, so don't miss this opportunity.
We actually have them all, and play them quite often. It is just yesterday we’d expected more people, and when folks started to show up, we thought we would put the popular big maps up to lure even more of them, but it did not work out. :) Otherwise, we would play things like St. Lo, PDH, Eppel, and Keren 32 (Falaise is about the only 64 you can play with low numbers, maybe Supercharge and PHL as well), and we play plenty 16 (we finished with a solid Lebisey 16, which is always fun with up to 20 people).
As for rules etc., we’ll set it up, as well as in-game administration (right now we have to use bf2cc from the browser to change maps, kick, and send global messages), and possibly reintroduce automatic map-changing script (we removed it because some thought it was causing the server lag when some people join, but it seems to had been caused by incorrectly set up DNS-resolver, and regulars could see that in last two days there were no such lags that we had registered so far).
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@5hitm4k3r
You are right and I criticized that as well. Especially as we had Cobra and El Al in a row. Playing there with 16 people was rather pointless. It's not like we played the big maps like this all the time though. We played Giarabub earlier, Mount Olympus 16 and after El Al, we played Lebisey 16. Anyway, too many big maps. Does not only attract fewer players, also is not much fun to me.
It was originally planned to play on the F|H server which did not work out yet, but will do by next week. So next week it will be adjusted to the amount of players we got in order to make sure people get more interested in the server. We also will take things more serious with different and more admins as well.
Same with the rules. Not sure if they are being displayed until next Wednesday, but there will be taken care of. The VBIOS server was just the replacement in the end.
This is my personal opinion here, others thought big maps make sense and are nice with few people as well. I don't share this opinion. Another point is that this was pretty much short dated and therefore definitely not greatly planned.
As I said, big announcement for next week will follow, we will try to implement the suggestions as good as we can. Thank you for the feedback!
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Test run on F|H server is set for the next Wednesday, July 3rd. There is no big announcement on this forums as yet (in the form of separate topic), but to get is started, here is the promo:
(http://i.imgur.com/eWFpdpe.png)
F|H weekly game night
Every Wednesday on F|H 130-player server (official FH2 ranked)
16:00 UTC
17:00 London
18:00 Berlin, Cairo, Paris, Pretoria, Warsaw
19:00 Kiev, Helsinki
20:00 Moscow
12:00 Havana, New York
13:00 Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo
21:30 New Dehli
23:00 Jakarta
Midnight Beijing, Perth
TS3: ts.forgottenhonor.com
FH2 Mumble enabled
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I can make it this week.
Hopefully you guys will have more admins & turn off the map voting.
Can you list a map rotation?
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Can't come this week, will join next week.
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Also will VOIP be enabled or must we use TS3/Mumble for communication?
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Voip should be enabled. But you can always feel free to join F|H teamspeak for example. That's at least where a good bunch of people from F|H is going to be at.
Join all in and have fun on Wednesday! Spread the word!
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Test run on F|H server is set for the next Wednesday, July 3rd.
(http://i.imgur.com/eWFpdpe.png)
F|H weekly game night
Every Wednesday on F|H 130-player server (official FH2 ranked)
16:00 UTC
17:00 London
18:00 Berlin, Cairo, Paris, Pretoria, Warsaw
19:00 Kiev, Helsinki
20:00 Moscow
12:00 Havana, New York
13:00 Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo
21:30 New Dehli
23:00 Jakarta
Midnight Beijing, Perth
TS3: ts.forgottenhonor.com
FH2 Mumble enabled
Don't forget about it! Join today evening!
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Soon...
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Ahem. Let’s go on VBIOS for that night. There are still technical issues we are trying to work out on F|H server, and we do not want to have those affect the players, and ruin the whole thing before it has a chance to take off. Mumble is glitching there as well, but works on VBIOS, so see you all there.
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VBIOS is limited to only 64 slots. The FH2 scene is dead. :'(
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I experienced a full Server for several hours, while there was no other server available. And I experienced real teamplay (on both sides). I encountered more than once a full enemy squad. Really challenging, but fun.
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Yeah, it was really good gameplay. I only played for three matches but I want to thank the guys who were in my squad (Potato), you were awesome.
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I joined late, but still had fun.
I just want to thank everyone at Forgotten Honor & all involved in making this happen. Its no secret that the community has shrunk dramatically & while there seems to be very long times between patches & no progress for the immediate future, it is still being developed & that is better than nothing.
It is weekly event's like this that will keep FH2 going as i believe it still offers a unique and fun WW2 style of game-play that you can get nowhere else.
Now, if we can just get WAW Thursdays to follow this blueprint.........
suggestions for future events
- Get Official Awards working (I know it is being worked on), but this will be a HUGE selling point.
- Map Ticket-Count Adjustments
- 100+ server games (as long as they are stable)
- Adding 1 Custom Tournament map into the rotation (Announcing D/L links on Weekly Forum Post, server messages & in Mumble/TS3)
There are some really good Tournament maps that would be fun to play!
- Start a poll on what maps the community likes & try to work them into the rotation.
(I know from experience that some of the admins running this, Ug for example are very in-tune to the community requests)
- Mini Campaigns: Game nights with entire map list that consist of:
- Infantry Only
- Tank Battle Night
- Fan Favorites (based on poll)
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Thanks for your feedback. We hope we manage to get the F|H server stable and play official stats as well as running the server with 64+ players by next week. Yesterday was just a test run and we even had to switch to VBIOS. But I got to say that I really enjoyed the gameplay as well. Due to lack of time I was only playing 3 or 4 rounds as well, but Villers-Bocage and Gazala were a lot of fun to me.
You are right about the ticket adjustements, we should try to fix that. Like Gazala for example. Axis did not capture a flag all round long and they still won. That should not happen.
We have thought about making a map poll already. Similar to the official gamenights that were played until like 1,5 years ago. Might come up in the next weeks.
About tournament maps, probably not gonna happen as it influences the numbers we get too much at this point. A tournament map is usually created for 64 players (with more possible), and it does not make sense when we play it with 20 people in the end, screwing off many others.
But if we get a playerbase that joins the gamenight somewhat regularly you could think about doing it. We are still at the very start of this, and want to make it a regular, weekly event. But currently custom maps don't make much sense in my opinion.
But generally the intention is to create the gamenight the way the community likes it. So keep up the feedback and suggestions. It's taken very seriously!
See you next Wednesday! ;)
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There's bunch of tourney maps that will play sorta fine with less numbers as F|H Oceania proved back in the days.
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Yeah, i agree Surfbird. Maybe a bit early for customs, but im glad to see you guys are doing this the right way.
The community has been lacking an Official Awards server since HSLAN went kaput, so who knows what is possible...............
;)
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About tournament maps, probably not gonna happen as it influences the numbers we get too much at this point. A tournament map is usually created for 64 players (with more possible), and it does not make sense when we play it with 20 people in the end, screwing off many others.
But if we get a playerbase that joins the gamenight somewhat regularly you could think about doing it. We are still at the very start of this, and want to make it a regular, weekly event. But currently custom maps don't make much sense in my opinion.
Not true. I remember us at F|H having an Italy event on 4 of our maps and having 2 full servers for the entire weekend. I think myself and Erwin could possibly talk about making something up if the demand is there for a custom map for the public server ;) .
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Alright. But still, custom maps screw more players off then we profit out of it at this point. In my opinion we have to get some kind of playerbase that is following the weekly updates about the gamenight and that attends somewhat regularly.
Single F|H custom map events are great anyway. I remember the Italy event a year ago too and it was great but it's something different. The gamenight is on a weekly basis, offering people the opportunity to join a different server. The Italy event worked well because it was one event for a certain amount of time with big announcements and half the F|H community behind it. The weekly Gamenight is something different.
But custom map events over a weekend or a couple of days is great anyway and will still work of course. I would jsut handle it seperately or try custom maps in the weekly gamenight in a month or so as a test. But right now we don't even have the F|H server running correctly, some kind of server admin staff for the gamenight is missing and some other issues are around as described in Jimi's post. So imo, it's not the right time to throw in custom maps.
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Hey guys, everything set up for tomorrow night?
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We are on it. Ug or me will inform you about issues or anything if necessary. If everything goes as planned this applies again :)
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(http://i.imgur.com/eWFpdpe.png)
F|H weekly game night
Every Wednesday on F|H 130-player server (official FH2 ranked)
16:00 UTC
17:00 London
18:00 Berlin, Cairo, Paris, Pretoria, Warsaw
19:00 Kiev, Helsinki
20:00 Moscow
12:00 Havana, New York
13:00 Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo
21:30 New Dehli
23:00 Jakarta
Midnight Beijing, Perth
TS3: ts.forgottenhonor.com
FH2 Mumble enabled
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Server will be set up by the time stated above.
Make sure to join for another fun event. And don't forget that you are always welcome to visit us on teamspeak as well. We love teamplay and are happy about every player that joins us there.
See you tonight!
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Alright, already got a bunch of people here. Running Battle of Keren 16 right now. Time to join up!
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Correction: VBIOS server! That community St. Lo event (F|H v. 762) that keeps not happening, even though we are training for it, threw wrench in the works, and we did not change server back up to proper settings in time, so VBIOS it is again, but all welcome to join as we did last couple of weeks.
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20 people on now, join up!
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We had over 20 people today and, lo! I had a squad member in Mumble! Maybe Mersah killed it today, but I put it on because we have not played it for ever, and I saw that on 762 people filled the server with it, but it did not work out tonight. At least we had a good fight on small Bardia.
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Was fun for a while, especially PHL and Bardia too. I recommend not putting in Mersa for a while ;)
Also, In think if this is being kept up throug summer and into autumn, on a weekly basis, people will learn about it and join more often.
I'll join up again, but not next time, I'm off on vacation soon, so can't come then ;)
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I am sad because i can`t play this mod on multiplayer and anyone can`t help me,so sad :( (i can`t play because it tells me :invalid kd key , and many people didn`t bought thsi game and can play it very smoothly.If someone can tell me what to do(without buying the game or something),thx for reading.
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I am sad because i can`t play this mod on multiplayer and anyone can`t help me,so sad :( (i can`t play because it tells me :invalid kd key , and many people didn`t bought thsi game and can play it very smoothly.If someone can tell me what to do(without buying the game or something),thx for reading.
This question is not related to this topic, and should have been posted in “Support” forum. However, you might want to try VBIOS server, no reason given, and you did not hear it here or from me.
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This is GREAT. the more people that have dedicated "event" times to play FH2 the better. Get people into a rhythm so every Wed is packed. 8) Big thanks to the people who started this and are trying to get it together, it'll be you guys who give FH2 some longevity in the end ;)
*didn't read the whole thread*
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Fix the Awards server Ug you muthafucker you
inside joke
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Please get your server together. 10 players and announcement "still not working, let's go to VBIOS" is not going to attract people.
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We know it sucks. There was miscommunication with our server administration. It should finally be alright by next week. At least there is communication now and it is being worked on the issues. Server is planned to be set to 64p with official ranking.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Yet.. still 762 attracts more people, we must be doing something right. ;D
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Yet.. still 762 attracts more people. ;D
Trolololol
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Yet.. still 762 attracts more people, we must be doing something right. ;D
Wow.... Just wow.... I'm not even gonna say anything else in reply.
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Yet.. still 762 attracts more people, we must be doing something right. ;D
Yes there an age limit to be a 762 admin ? I ask this because you seem to be only 12...
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Yes it may seem that way, i do understand F|H has a huge community wars (about 70 join that one, great job). Waw has even better ones. :)
What i was saying, why does 762 have about 70 people on the day and VBIOS only has 25?
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Maybe because everyone and their aunt is an admin there? :D Seriously, fellas, calm down a bit. As I was saying: some people prefer one thing, while others the other, but this playerbase is too small to fight like that. We cannot afford to alienate each other.
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What i was saying, why does 762 have about 70 people on the day and VBIOS only has 25?
I could write one of my infamous wall of texts now, but I'm really not in the mood to do it for a stupid question you can answer for yourself.
In short: You are the only guys that have been running a populated pub server for like 6-8 months now, you actually do things right, you are dedicated and seemt to be well organized.
The gamenight is for those people that do not want to play on your server for any kind of reason, for people that like to play with official ranking, for people that are not interested in daily public play, but like to join a gamenight here and there. Currently we lack especially publicity, we plan to change that. Many people are not really aware of the gamenight yet. But when we continue working on this and keep putting effort into it, then there is a fair chance that it might work out on the long term.
Other than that I do not friggin care how many people play on your server. This is not some kind of competition like you seem to imagine. This is about offering an alternative, about getting the most out of the FH2 community. Some people you see in the gamenight are people you won't see a lot on 762 or not there at all.
When something annoys me, then it is this competitional thinking of Gamenight vs 762. It should not be like that at all. I play on 762 here and there and I do help organizing the gamenight and play it on Wednesdays. The gamenight is for FH2 and not against other servers or anything.
This playerbase is too small to fight like that. We cannot afford to alienate each other.
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I think we would reach a much wider audience if we ran 2.4 on gamenights.
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I do agree we do need some other server running other than 762, some disagree with their rules. :-\
It might bring more players out in the community, or on server at least. ;)
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Roughy ... you are a fine guy, but that was not a clever post. If you want to contribute something to the work these guys are doing, then you are welcome. Other than that I am glad that we came to a point that this ongoing bitching about one or the other server hoster has came to an toleratable limit - basically zero in the last couple of months though it was a hard piece of work and a long way. I am even more confident and happy about that we can communicate, support each other and that the other side appreciates that help. May it be the beta testing, setting up this community server or just organizing the community wars - where I have to admit that - we are failing a bit at the moment.
@The other guys: Please go easy on Roughy, he is a good guy and for it's age a very mature server admin. I met people who are triple the age but third of the brain. So please keep going with your gamenights. It shows that this mod is far from being dead. ;)
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Damn, you guys bitch more than an ex-wives club.
The community is small & 762 is flying the only FH2 flag right now. Thanks for that. ;)
Another steady, reliable alternative will bring others out from the shadows.......
...but you guy have to get your shit together....its already starting to look like WAW Thursdays with its ..
dwindling attendance and random "hey we have 6 join now" posts.
If there is some magical, invisible event that is blocking the launch of this fabulous idea, then just move it over to another server with the promises stated in the advertisement "official FH2 ranked".
....otherwise gentlemen, you lose all credibility & people will just go somewhere else.
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...but you guy have to get your shit together....its already starting to look like WAW Thursdays with its ..
dwindling attendance and random "hey we have 6 join now" posts.
Unlike WAW, this new gamenight has been around only for two weeks, so I think your comments are a bit harsh, Jimi. Since the attention given to FH2 by players who don't want to play on 762 hasn't been much lately, this needs time. It needs to grow on that part of the community, so to conclude that "you guy(s) have to get your shit together" is a bit premature.
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Damn, you guys bitch more than an ex-wives club.
The community is small & 762 is flying the only FH2 flag right now. Thanks for that. ;)
Another steady, reliable alternative will bring others out from the shadows.......
...but you guy have to get your shit together....its already starting to look like WAW Thursdays with its ..
dwindling attendance and random "hey we have 6 join now" posts.
If there is some magical, invisible event that is blocking the launch of this fabulous idea, then just move it over to another server with the promises stated in the advertisement "official FH2 ranked".
....otherwise gentlemen, you lose all credibility & people will just go somewhere else.
;)
Rome ne s'est pas faite en un jour.
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Why people play on 64p 762 I've never really understood, 128p is the future and I prefer "vanilla" rules to 762's restrictive but variably enforced ones. Screw statistics, 762 does not support the REAL FH2 statistics anyway.
Other servers running 128p would be most welcome. Then we might see some REAL competition.
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Not only Rome (or Lisbon ;)) was not built in a day, and we obviously have a lot of kinks to work out, but even established WaW game night from which we are modelling this event is not immune to an occasional hiccup. Just few weeks ago server was not switched from BF2 Pirates event and we had to scramble trying to find an admin who could switch it back to FH2 in the last minute.
5hitm4k3r, yea, get your community war side ready. We keep training, and you keep cancelling (maybe after seeing us kicking arse and taking names on pub ;)). Last excuse was that Odium realized there’s summer going on, so no one can be found to play. :D
kelmola, 130-player is the biggest issue for ranking. After the devs tested stats and maps on 96-player test server, they realized that neither is balanced for that many players, and thus do not allow stats being recorded on modifed larger servers. Even after we’d tried to limit the server to 64 players, it still had shown everyone’s rank as private, so, clearly, that work-around did not help. I posted about it on support forum, but evdently devs stopped going there altogether.
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Damn, you guys bitch more than an ex-wives club.
The community is small & 762 is flying the only FH2 flag right now. Thanks for that. ;)
Another steady, reliable alternative will bring others out from the shadows.......
...but you guy have to get your shit together....its already starting to look like WAW Thursdays with its ..
dwindling attendance and random "hey we have 6 join now" posts.
If there is some magical, invisible event that is blocking the launch of this fabulous idea, then just move it over to another server with the promises stated in the advertisement "official FH2 ranked".
....otherwise gentlemen, you lose all credibility & people will just go somewhere else.
;)
Rome ne s'est pas faite en un jour.
Damn, had to bring up the google translator for that one. ???
ok , a bit harsh, but seriously...
It could be very popular....
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Why people play on 64p 762 I've never really understood, 128p is the future and I prefer "vanilla" rules to 762's restrictive but variably enforced ones. Screw statistics, 762 does not support the REAL FH2 statistics anyway.
Other servers running 128p would be most welcome. Then we might see some REAL competition.
There are players in the community who prefere 64 instead of 64+ for several reasons. some maps get just messy and I think that's the main reason. Another important point is that people with less strong PC's get problems with the player count. I for one have a quite old CPU and the game starts to slow down heavily when alot of players are concentrated on one location. Idk whether 64+ is the holy grail, as players still tend to join our 64 player server. FlH has the code so setting up this server for more players so it shouldn't be a problem. We had a talk with $kinny Norris few days ago and he said that it was always possible to get the code working for hslan. You just need the people to take care for this stuff :-\
@theUg: Why do you have to still hammer on me? I admited that we have and had problems with organizing our team for several reasons and you still keep bashing. Not working forum and servers to train is certainly not helping either and that was the reason why we canceled the last match to set the things straight for you. We have quite alot of people in our community like myself who are busy with RL stuff atm, in my case my exams for university and next to this working to earn some money. And with this in mind I simply don't have enough time to play the babysitter, let alone plan a battle. A match with this amount of players is new for us, so you might understand, that we struggle from time to time. Motivation is not our problem and you will get your match. It is the same like with the next FH2 patch - a delay doesn't mean that it will not happen. I don't know whether there is just a problem with the language barrier or whether you are trolling me.
Case closed and btt
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I for one have a quite old CPU and the game starts to slow down heavily when alot of players are concentrated on one location.
I'm surprised to read this. If there is a problem with computer power, I wouldn't bet on the CPU, rather on the balance of the entire configuration.
I'm currently running on a Intel i5 3570, I used to use a Intel Core duo E8400 (5 years old) and an AMD Athlon X2 3800+ / Opteron 170 on a secondary computer (7-8 years old) until recently, and I've never had any performance issue on 64+ servers other than some occasional server side lag. ;)
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That's propably true Strat. And with the wide range of hardware configurations it is even more dificult to determine what is causing problems and it can be very different from player to player. But when I compare FH2 with other software that I am running I always come to the conclusion that the CPU is bottlenecking my PC the most. I am running an Athlon X2 6000+, 4GB DDR2 800, Radeon 6870 under Win 7 64bit. The problem is the architecture of the CPU itself and how it is processing everything. BF2 can only utilize one core, and when I compare my performance in those heavily populated situations with people with newer CPU's who are in the same TS channel with me, then they never complain about bad performance. The gfx is just heavily bottlenecked by the CPU, but atleast I got rid of slow downs when smoke and this stuff shows up compared to my last graphic card. It is not, that it is unplayable but I notice it and FPS starts to jump. I made a funny test on Eppeldorf everything maxed in the american base: when I look towards west oudside the map I get like 90 FPS. Then I just turn around 180 degree looking towards east, where all the action is happening and it drops to 30 FPS instantly.
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5hitm4k3r, I cannot possibly keep trolling you, as I had just started. :) Don’t take it too seriously, ’tis be a harmless joke. But seriously, get your shit together. ;D
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That's propably true Strat. And with the wide range of hardware configurations it is even more dificult to determine what is causing problems and it can be very different from player to player. But when I compare FH2 with other software that I am running I always come to the conclusion that the CPU is bottlenecking my PC the most. I am running an Athlon X2 6000+, 4GB DDR2 800, Radeon 6870 under Win 7 64bit. The problem is the architecture of the CPU itself and how it is processing everything. BF2 can only utilize one core, and when I compare my performance in those heavily populated situations with people with newer CPU's who are in the same TS channel with me, then they never complain about bad performance. The gfx is just heavily bottlenecked by the CPU, but atleast I got rid of slow downs when smoke and this stuff shows up compared to my last graphic card. It is not, that it is unplayable but I notice it and FPS starts to jump. I made a funny test on Eppeldorf everything maxed in the american base: when I look towards west oudside the map I get like 90 FPS. Then I just turn around 180 degree looking towards east, where all the action is happening and it drops to 30 FPS instantly.
Well, it's true the CPU can be a bottleneck regarding FPS, I saw some improvement with the last upgrade (but nothing revolutionary, it was already very smooth with the C2D).
Actually the FPS drop you noticed is somewhat normal (whatever the number of players), it's just surprising it drops so much that it annoys you. The only similar cases I heard from were during betatesting on maps that weren't optimized enough (too many/objects too heavy on polygons). I would say in regular conditions FPS don't drop below 40-50 with my C2D. ;)
Your video card must have 1gb of memory and has more than enough power (I'm still running a HD4850 ... ;D), the CPU should perform more or less like a E8400. The only thing that might play a role is the memory speed (I had DDRII 1066) but it shouldn't be that crippling, really weird.
You mentioned a graphic card change, could it be that you went from a Nvidia one to the AMD without making a fresh install of Windows ?
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Last excuse was that Odium realized there’s summer going on, so no one can be found to play. :D
Well not an excuse. As I wrote, we had been given either 1 or 2 weeks notice to a) get a team together and b) train for a map. That in the middle of exams time for german universities, with people working and having kids, it indeed is hard to get ppl together. Not all of us check the forums daily, let alone are on ts to play every evening.
The dudes from Korea running DDoS attacks on our German provider (just learnt of that location today) and thus almost crashing our website + main game server several times that week did not help either.
Hey Kelmola what do you mean "variably enforced"? I know our rules are strict and we cannot be everywhere. But the idea is to apply the same rules to each player. So what happened to you?
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Your video card must have 1gb of memory and has more than enough power (I'm still running a HD4850 ... ;D), the CPU should perform more or less like a E8400. The only thing that might play a role is the memory speed (I had DDRII 1066) but it shouldn't be that crippling, really weird.
You mentioned a graphic card change, could it be that you went from a Nvidia one to the AMD without making a fresh install of Windows ?
Tbh I can't exactly remember, but I changed indeed from Nvidia to ATI. I am going to make a fresh OS install anyway quite soon, so maybe I can compare whether it is helping or not.
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Alright. I can say that everything is sorted for tonight. Miscommunications are not existing anymore and we are ready to go. The event will take place on one of our training servers, but you will easily find the server by the name that should be something like
"F|H Gamenight Official Rank"
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-We got official ranking running
-We got the first part of the admin staff for the public event (by next week the admin staff will be expanded further)
F|H weekly game night
Every Wednesday on F|H 64-player server (official FH2 ranked)
16:00 UTC
17:00 London
18:00 Berlin, Cairo, Paris, Pretoria, Warsaw
19:00 Kiev, Helsinki
20:00 Moscow
12:00 Havana, New York
13:00 Buenos Aires, Sao Paolo
21:30 New Dehli
23:00 Jakarta
Midnight Beijing, Perth
TS3: ts.forgottenhonor.com
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Yes, stats are working, Mumble is working (it shows wrong channel, but it works. We’ll get channels sorted by next week, hopefully). After tonight and next week, when all the snags would be ironed out, we’ll make separate topic for this game night to bring even more awareness.
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Im joining in 30min. Leaving work now.
Great work fellas! 8)
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Got nightshift at my vacancy job today. Maybe I can hop in for half an hour before I have to leave :)
EDIT: I get ctd on finished map loading. I guess there will be no FH2 for me tonight. Have fun.
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hey we have
6 9 players join now ...
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Since the server isn't set up im guessing no gamenight tonight?
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How is it not set up? It’s showing up fine in my BF2CC. I am going to remove KotH maps now (to avoid that bleed bug), reboot, and start seeding in a few.
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Alright, join if you like guys. We'll be there with a bunch of people and have some nice rounds ;)
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Count me in.
Leaving work now.