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Title: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: chad509 on 22-08-2012, 01:08:25
Hey guys, I'm back for another little quick update. Here i have a little video on the new g41w weapon animations. I hope you all enjoy, see you on the battlefield!  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-f6qQvzgJs&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: TASSER on 22-08-2012, 02:08:53
I've gotta say, I really like the slower, more meticulous reload! Really wouldn't mind it if all the weapons had slower reloads, makes you "appreciate" the weapon more.

Oh and by the way... KICKASS NEW RIFLE!!!

You're spoiling us with all these updates Chad ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Lightning on 22-08-2012, 02:08:20
3 seconds of shooting, 12 seconds of reloading.  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: GIJordncc1701d on 22-08-2012, 07:08:40
And I jizz....in....my pants  ;D

I like the gun. The G41(W) was definitely an interesting rifle. The G41(M) was more interesting from a technical perspective though. But, it was barely issued because the troops hated it. I've actually seen a picture of a G41(W) during the Battle of Brest. Really interesting to see something like that so late in the war. And yes, I'm 100% sure it was during Brest. I just have to figure out which of my several hundred books has the picture in it  :-[
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Raziel on 22-08-2012, 07:08:55
Great animation Chad :) .
I really don't mind the long reloading animation. You just need to find a good place to take cover in the mean time. Imo it makes FH2 more life-like.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Chuc on 22-08-2012, 08:08:55
Wow, sitting at 12 seconds that's longer than machine gun reloads in PR :p

Good stuff, my man. I'll be looking closely at these when I animate my mosin.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: chad509 on 22-08-2012, 08:08:09
Thanks guys, took me all night. OOO a mosin, cant wait to see that.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-08-2012, 09:08:24
Looks great with rhose double stripperclip loading sessions  ;D Cant wait to use it!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Kelmola on 22-08-2012, 09:08:55
Could reloading a rifle be any more awkward? ;D Ossum attention to detail there, 8)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Kuupperi on 22-08-2012, 11:08:58
I was surprised how long it took to reload the rifle. You wouldn't like to reload this face-to-face with the enemy. Not too bad though and I didn't know there was a few versions of the rifle before this video so thanks for the lesson.

And thanks for putting some bothunting in the video. Nice work!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Surfbird on 22-08-2012, 12:08:47
I really like it and I'm fine with the long reload. Makes it weaker than the better designed G43. And I love the sound really much. Great work!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 22-08-2012, 12:08:21
Sounds and looks amazing! Also, what map is that?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-08-2012, 12:08:23
Lebisey 16
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Wakain on 22-08-2012, 12:08:49
nice, I have no problem with the length of the reload, sprint anim is nice as well, I hope we'll see it in 3rd person as well.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-08-2012, 16:08:13
I really like it and I'm fine with the long reload. Makes it weaker than the better designed G43. And I love the sound really much. Great work!
actually, G43 should be reloaded in the same way as this one afaik.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Kelmola on 22-08-2012, 17:08:02
actually, G43 should be reloaded in the same way as this one afaik.
Yes and no. Yes, G43 uses the same five-round stripper clips. But, it uses a detachable box magazine as well, and every soldier was issued with three magazines (one in the gun, two spares). Once you had shot through the three magazines, you were supposed to reload the magazines using the stripper clips (which you could do when the magazine was detached).
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-08-2012, 17:08:10
actually, G43 should be reloaded in the same way as this one afaik.
Yes and no. Yes, G43 uses the same five-round stripper clips. But, it uses a detachable box magazine as well, and every soldier was issued with three magazines (one in the gun, two spares). Once you had shot through the three magazines, you were supposed to reload the magazines using the stripper clips (which you could do when the magazine was detached).
Afaik soldiers were reloading G43 with stripper clips and were equipped with one detachable box in reserve. It was rather rare to have more but I'm not realy sure about it - nevermind, back on topic: great rifle, would be cool to have some RARE pickup kits of it in late africa maps ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-08-2012, 17:08:56
I think it's actually more realistic to have them in Normandy and Eastern Front. Many people think of them as early war weapons, but most were produced in 1943 and they were still in production in 1944. The 352nd Infanterie (St Lo, PeB, Omaha if it comes to that) reports no G43s, but G41s for June 1944 in their arsenal. I actually know more pics of G41s in Normandy than off G43s.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-08-2012, 18:08:02
And the SVT aswel. Sometimes spare magazines where issued, but most of the time, it was stripper clips for all of these rifles

i do hope these become a rather limited weapon. Not that many where built, and they suffered a horrible attrition ratio in the first years of the eastfront

still there is something fancy about the G41....something wich makes me prefer it over the G43 ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-08-2012, 18:08:03
I think it might be that large barrel shroud thing (part of the recoil system?) that makes it look so badass, like it shoots really big bullets ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-08-2012, 18:08:08
Ye, you look at it...and like the SVT you know=When i get his by this im fucked


but i feel like shocking some german fanboys

did you fellows knew that the Gewehr 43 gas system was heavily based on the SVT system?

The G41 was a nightmare for troops, but the G43 was very well recieved

CAUSE IT IS RUSSIAN!  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vpE1MFaIJ0
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: GIJordncc1701d on 22-08-2012, 19:08:30
I think it might be that large barrel shroud thing (part of the recoil system?) that makes it look so badass, like it shoots really big bullets ;D

That's the gas system. It uses a Bang-type gas trap. This came out of the idiotic requirement by the German higher ups that no holes be drilled in the barrel. It was one of the main bad parts about the rifle because it could become fouled very easily. The Bang-type gas trap came out of Denmark actually, and was messed around with by John Garand during the making of the M1. He actually decided to do a compromise; drill a gas port in the barrel but do it near the muzzle. While this was a good compromise, in reality it sucked. The gas system is incredibly long and has a very long stroke. With the M1 carbine, which has the gas port only a few inches from the chamber, the short stroke gas piston only has to travel about 7-8mms to have enough force to push the bolt and bolt carrier back.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: sn00x on 10-09-2012, 06:09:59
LONGER RELOAD FOR ALL WEAPONS!  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Cheesus Krighst on 10-09-2012, 07:09:01
Increase all weapon reloads to 30 seconds!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-09-2012, 17:09:51
I think it might be that large barrel shroud thing (part of the recoil system?) that makes it look so badass, like it shoots really big bullets ;D

That's the gas system. It uses a Bang-type gas trap. This came out of the idiotic requirement by the German higher ups that no holes be drilled in the barrel. It was one of the main bad parts about the rifle because it could become fouled very easily. The Bang-type gas trap came out of Denmark actually, and was messed around with by John Garand during the making of the M1. He actually decided to do a compromise; drill a gas port in the barrel but do it near the muzzle. While this was a good compromise, in reality it sucked. The gas system is incredibly long and has a very long stroke. With the M1 carbine, which has the gas port only a few inches from the chamber, the short stroke gas piston only has to travel about 7-8mms to have enough force to push the bolt and bolt carrier back.
Yet the yanks still won the war with there garands. So that has to count for something
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 10-09-2012, 22:09:24
It actually worked reliably, unlike the G41. That's what made it a winner.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope 2 Weapon Preview: G41W
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-09-2012, 23:09:42
The G41 was back then quite the promise. But typically german, it is made far to overcomplicated for its goal.

simplicity ftw