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Title: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 21:10:37
Just as in the 2.4 bolt action poll, let us see wich is the communities favorite Light machinegun!

Feel free to post what you voted for, or to post a top 3 or top 5 of your preferred light machine gun
Also feel free to share what you would love to see as a LMG in the future!

My favorite remains the Brengun.

1. Bren
2. ZB 26(MG26t)
3. BAR
I have the odd thing of peferring magazine fed LMG's above beltfed. I just cant as good with the MG34 or M1919A6

There's only one LMG i want to see for the moment, wich is the MG 15. The model is already ingame. It was used in quite large numbers
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-10-2011, 21:10:08
MG26(t)

Just because.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Eat Uranium on 18-10-2011, 21:10:10
The Breda, because the low magazine size makes me more careful with how I use it.  Also - it's a Breda, what more could you want?

I'm also partial to the MG42 and the zb.26.

As to the future - I can't wait to try out the DP.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-10-2011, 21:10:20
ZB vz. 26. I always liked the Bren gun, but the original is a bit better.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 21:10:21
ZB vz. 26. I always liked the Bren gun, but the original is a bit better.
it has something special, doesnt it?  ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: RommelBr on 18-10-2011, 21:10:59

   The MG42

   Because I love her 1.500 shots per minute, so I tore the enemies that cross my line of range.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 18-10-2011, 21:10:28
MG42. I cant stand the mag mg's because of the low rounds count.

It has a good rate of fire that I fire in little burst and is very accurate. Plus the sound is totally badass. However, I would like if we could shoot it from the hip and standing like the rest of the light mg's because it can be done.

I hate the Breda with a passion. And the ZB26 while is a good addition, it's still a magazine mg.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-10-2011, 21:10:23

   The MG42

   Because I love her 1.500 shots per minute, so I tore the enemies that cross my line of range.

a: The real MG42 was more in the league of 1200 rpm
b: the on ingame shoots 900rpm
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 21:10:02
MG42. I cant stand the mag mg's because of the low rounds count.

It has a good rate of fire that I fire in little burst and is very accurate. Plus the sound is totally badass. However, I would like if we could shoot it from the hip and standing like the rest of the light mg's because it can be done.

I hate the Breda with a passion. And the ZB26 while is a good addition, it's still a magazine mg.
it is all prefernce. i love magazine fed LMG's because like the ZB 26 and bren, you can use these also as an assault rifle
But i cant use the MG42 or M1919A6..i have to wait way to long
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 18-10-2011, 21:10:30
Just go prone with a bipod and stay there. I use the MG34/42 and the 1919 to cover a big area and eliminate everything that moves, especially the lafette versions. If we could use it from the hip and aim and fire it, it would be great (MG34/42 I mean).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Musti on 18-10-2011, 21:10:56
Hard choice, I like all of them, For magazine fed weapons definitely ZB, but I've voted for M1919A6. Better than MG42 AND i can use zhe mighty revolver!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 18-10-2011, 22:10:21
I had a big dillema between the MG34/42, I like both, but then I remembered shooting down planes with the MG42 and went with it.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Lydecker on 18-10-2011, 22:10:53
MG42. You just gotta love the 250 rounds of whoop-ass, non-stop. And it's always nice to stitch that enemy up with a few rounds more than needed, just because it sounds so damn good ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-10-2011, 22:10:43
IIRC stats-wise the Lewis is one of the best lmgs, but the sound kills it for me.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-10-2011, 22:10:36
I love BAR and Lewis...

voted for the first one
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 22:10:16
IIRC stats-wise the Lewis is one of the best lmgs, but the sound kills it for me.
ye what the FRAK happend with it?

2.4=Massive sound improvement for every weapon


Eeeeexept for the lewis, it gets a shitty 16 bit era sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p31mw0WPGrk
The previous lewis sound wassent great, but came closer then this current 16 Bit M60 sound ripoff
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Butcher on 18-10-2011, 23:10:48
MG42 - unmatched.

- total fire superiority with a 250 round magazine.
- best sights
- no magazine in your view!!!
- you can control it quite good even when holding the trigger finger down
- bias on my side.  :P thats just THE mg of ww2
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 23:10:52
MG42 - unmatched.

- total fire superiority with a 250 round magazine.
- best sights
- no magazine in your view!!!
- you can control it quite good even when holding the trigger finger down
- bias on my side.  :P thats just THE mg of ww2
yet no hip or stand position fire  ;D
Nothing beats hip firing that beautifull ZB26 and Bren ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 18-10-2011, 23:10:45
With those horrible sights and ultra recoil? I rather use a pistol in cqc.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-10-2011, 23:10:35
I remember when we tested PeB I went on a crazy hip firing rampage with the Bren... good times.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 23:10:16
I miss rambo bren gunning of 2.15

I just grabbed a bren and just dominated half an axis team on Tunis

Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 19-10-2011, 01:10:40
Breda looks so sweet.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 19-10-2011, 01:10:28
Looks, but it's probably the worst mg in the game.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: King_Sam on 19-10-2011, 03:10:16
MG42 - unmatched.

- total fire superiority with a 250 round magazine.
- best sights
- no magazine in your view!!!
- you can control it quite good even when holding the trigger finger down
- bias on my side.  :P thats just THE mg of ww2

I agree 100%.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: buddycole46 on 19-10-2011, 04:10:48
BAR.

Great 3 round bursts when prone, minus the 20 round mag...

And also able to assist assaults in buildings and from behind a squad while standing/kneeling.

I do love it in Brest as a street denial system and in the new Bulge maps as a long range, 3 round burst, destroyer of infantry.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 19-10-2011, 07:10:07
MG42 hands down

The 250 round drum on a bipod in a good location is just lethal - awesome sights

MG34 second

So much winning with that thing on Sfakia 16 - awesome sights

Like the Bren, Bar etc. but dislike their sights somewhat.  FG42 sways to the right (thanks to the goddamn clip)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Kwiot on 19-10-2011, 09:10:39
Obviously Browning 30. cal! This is American good response for German Mg42! I simply love it. I think it's more accurate and has lower recoil than mg42. When I play as infantry on Bastogne, I usually use this weapon.  ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 19-10-2011, 09:10:47
Nah. Mg42 is just as accurate, just suffers from the exagerated recoil.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: LuckyOne on 19-10-2011, 10:10:36
30. cal = AWESOME - I love the sound...

But nothing beats the Bren... I just wish it had more oomph like in CoD 2... (I wasn't here in at the time of 2.15 so I don't know how it worked back then, but I'm sure it was at least 150 % more awesome).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: mopskind on 19-10-2011, 11:10:16
I used to love the mg 42, but since they toned down the rate of fire it lost its special feeling..just a mg 34 with different sound. zb 26 is teh shit
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: LuckyOne on 19-10-2011, 12:10:29
I used to love the mg 42, but since they toned down the rate of fire it lost its special feeling..just a mg 34 with different sound. zb 26 is teh shit

AFAIK rate of fire was upped to 900 RPM... It just fires 1 bullet at the time instead of 2 @ 600 RPM... (Or sth like that).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Lightning on 19-10-2011, 12:10:49
That's right, the MG42 rate of fire was increased, but the amount of damage was reduced.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: hitm4k3r on 19-10-2011, 13:10:24
I have to say it was a hard desicion between BAR and Bren, but at the end the Bren has a bigger mag. Ofcourse the german MG's like MG42/34 are better concerning firepower, ammo count, accuracy and sigths but the usebility of the Bren is much more variable. It is not only a defensive weapon. You can use it in many different situations, also for attacking. Thatswhy I chose the Bren.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: General_Henry on 19-10-2011, 17:10:04
Rambo gun - MG26(t)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-10-2011, 17:10:40
As expected, everyone is german biased and chooses the

1. MG42
 ;D ;D trololololoooo

Second is the MG26. No surprise, this czech weapon is MIRACLE

Third is the BAR, the BAR was useless in in 2.2,2.3 and 2.35 but has finnaly been smoothend and perfectioned in 2.4  The BAR is awesome!

I am surprised to see so few votes for Bren gun. It is still the best LMG to me. But i suppose it is preference
i also expected a bit more votes for the FG42. When i saw a FG42 IRL last year and held it in my hands, i played singleplayer non stop with FG42 on PHL  ;D
But ye, it sways to the right, IRL the FG42 also did this. The recoil wassent as balanced as with other side mounted LMG's. The Breda 30 for example, was heavier on the left side of the magazine, kinda like the counterweight

Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 19-10-2011, 17:10:51
I wish we could wield the mg34/mg42/1919. Cause it was possible in real life. The 1919 could be fired from the hip with some recoil. Same with the mg34/42. And they could be aimed and fired from the hip, perhaps with the same recoil as the Bren.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-10-2011, 18:10:38
I wish we could wield the mg34/mg42/1919. Cause it was possible in real life. The 1919 could be fired from the hip with some recoil. Same with the mg34/42. And they could be aimed and fired from the hip, perhaps with the same recoil as the Bren.
Yes it was possible, but troops where never trained for it. Nor did the weapon was designed for it. Same goes for the Breda And DP28(DPM is diffrent)

The ZB26 and BREN where LMG's wich where designed to also be used as a weapon capable of being fired while standing OR from the hip. Bren gunners even recieved training for it, and especialy the australians where known to be very trained and deadly in this manouver. Using the sling as a support the Bren became actually a very effective automatic rifle

Also there is gameplay reasons..If MG34/42 is allowed to this, then allies LMGS have NO advantage whatsoever! Also this will become a spam weapon for use inside buildings... ruining gameplay completly
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 21-10-2011, 07:10:43
I wish we could wield the mg34/mg42/1919. Cause it was possible in real life. The 1919 could be fired from the hip with some recoil. Same with the mg34/42. And they could be aimed and fired from the hip, perhaps with the same recoil as the Bren.
Yes it was possible, but troops where never trained for it. Nor did the weapon was designed for it. Same goes for the Breda And DP28(DPM is diffrent)

The ZB26 and BREN where LMG's wich where designed to also be used as a weapon capable of being fired while standing OR from the hip. Bren gunners even recieved training for it, and especialy the australians where known to be very trained and deadly in this manouver. Using the sling as a support the Bren became actually a very effective automatic rifle

Also there is gameplay reasons..If MG34/42 is allowed to this, then allies LMGS have NO advantage whatsoever! Also this will become a spam weapon for use inside buildings... ruining gameplay completly

This in itself should be a reason

A 20 or 30 round mag, yeah fine you can spray a room

But a 250 round drum? bitch please!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Yustax on 21-10-2011, 07:10:13
How about the assault lmg? With a 50 and 75 round mag  8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: evhgear on 21-10-2011, 14:10:50
The first place is the Bren, great damage, laser precision, magasine fed and the possibility to use it as an assault rifle. The mg26(t) is quite awesome, just the 20round magasine is the little default.

Mg34/42 are simply beats, they rape anything, but I cant use it while standing.

BAR, until 2.3 this was by far my favorite gun because he was as great as the bren, but now he seems to have no precision, even while shooting shot by shot. I miss that BAR :(
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-10-2011, 18:10:39
Dude the FRAK you talking about? the BAR had terrible accuracy in 2.3, it got much improved in 2.4 same as with the bren.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: evhgear on 21-10-2011, 18:10:18
Dude the FRAK you talking about? the BAR had terrible accuracy in 2.3, it got much improved in 2.4 same as with the bren.
if it was not in 2.3 it was in 2.26, I think, when PeB came, the BAR had the precision of a rifle when shoting shot by shot, was easy to control in small bursts, but the sight when deployed was hidding everything. In that time the BAR was my alternative to the shitty garand, it's in since 2.3 that I started to rage about the garand since the BAR was not good anymore.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: G.Drew on 21-10-2011, 19:10:28
Picked FG42. Meant to pick MG26(t). Ah well.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: ajappat on 21-10-2011, 20:10:31
Browning. Easy recoil, a lot of ammo in one belt and good sights. Negative side is that it can't be shot while standing, but on the other hand, I can't hit anything with other lmg's while standing, so I guess it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 21-10-2011, 21:10:13
Bren gun. Best for multirole fighting. Good for area denial, and long range killing sprees, but can still reinforce the squad in CQC and building to building fighting. BAR was close second, especially with the improvements that came with this patch. Belt fed MGs are nice, but I always feel tied down when I use them. Like I have to camp, or run around with my pistol out hoping I dont meet someone at medium range. If Im gonna do this I prefer a placed tripod/lafette.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Rawhide on 22-10-2011, 10:10:53
Clearly not too many players have laid their hands upon of the God given gift that is FG42...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-10-2011, 13:10:04
Clearly not too many players have laid their hands upon of the God given gift that is FG42...
It is a bit tricky to use first, but once you masterd it


Anyway,More and more do i come to like the epicness that is know as the ZB26. I dunno about its stats, but for long range fire, the ZB26 is just better. Much better sights and i think the more powerfull round.

However the BREN seems to be still the boss in close combat. 30 rounds and i think less recoil do the job.

Still both are great rambo guns. I rambo Brenned/zb'd on lebisey just now,  45 kills and 10 deaths.

Twice did i ran out of ammo though!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Butcher on 22-10-2011, 13:10:46
what is the use of good sights on the ZB26 when you have a magazine obstructing your view the whole time? It often happens that i dont see the enemy that is "behind the magazine". You can solve that problem by looking around but its annoying as hell, because you are moving left and right - thus you are easier to spot and need to aim longer.
i use the bren and ZB26 most of the time while lying on the ground anyway, they are simply not usefull for me while standing, because it takes so long to zoom the weapon and you are slow as hell/cant run.
also the FG42 is quite a good weapon... but compare 20 rounds to 250. thats 1250% the mag-size xD.

btw.: i would really like the mg42s sound to be changed, maybe its correct but atm i think its rather silent and unimpressing.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-10-2011, 14:10:15
True but i can storm inside a building and dominate stuff with a Bren/ZB26. you CANT do that with MG42
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Musti on 22-10-2011, 15:10:34
True but i can storm inside a building and dominate stuff with a Bren/ZB26. you CANT do that with MG42
P38 or Browining HP is enough :D
jk. IMO ZB26 is better than Bren. Bren feels like it has more kick (firing animation etc). gun is all over the place, and sights suck.
stats are the same but it obstructs the view while firing, thats why ZB is better. And 20rd mag isn't that bad since its 1s1k.
Both are awesome when deployed though.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 22-10-2011, 16:10:07
Breda ftw
Just love the feel of it
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-10-2011, 18:10:46
Clearly not too many players have laid their hands upon of the God given gift that is FG42...
Words of wisdom! FG42 ftw!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: Lightning on 22-10-2011, 18:10:14
The FG42 is great, but not as a light machinegun. The rate of fire is too high, the magazine too small, the recoil to heavy and directed to the side. But in semi-automatic mode it makes a great rifle.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Light machine gun! (2.4 version)
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-10-2011, 18:10:26
The FG42 is great, but not as a light machinegun. The rate of fire is too high, the magazine too small, the recoil to heavy and directed to the side. But in semi-automatic mode it makes a great rifle.
that is the point    for a semi auto rifle it does the job, infact that was it designed for actually.

The trick in FG42 is truly to use it in burst. 2-3 round bursts are accurate enough. It is not as accurate as a bren or ZB26, but it is handier as a semi auto rifle