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Forgotten Hope 2 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hans Werner on 23-08-2011, 23:08:19

Title: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 23-08-2011, 23:08:19
Why I love so much FH2 ? For the Historical Accuracy !!!

Purple Heart Lane Ingame vs Real life :


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/97120787R0.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/245991F1.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/126617R1.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/819872F2.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/877107R2.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/872214F3.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/509008R3.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/496158F4.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/413522R4.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/830571F5.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/894383R5.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/968492F6.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/571125R6.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/223549F7.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/586409R7.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/112876F8.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/304836R8.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/163211F9.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/555546R9.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/128332F10.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/936091R10.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/760452F11.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/886560R11.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/453644F12.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/296564R12.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/553752F13.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/808851R13.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/243494F14.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/132551R14.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/229008F15.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/116437R15.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/358121F16.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/681065R16.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/500864F17.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/517599R17.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/460702F18.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/835897R18.jpg)


Falaise (Saint Lambert sur Dive) Ingame vs Real life :


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/826203F000.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/675818F19.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/898188R19.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/277666F20.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/761778R20.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/162495F21.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/689516R21.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/485134F22.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/395234R22.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/898444F23.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/941802R23.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/682941F24.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/791292R24.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/730841F25.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/546462R25.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/487088F26.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/424249R26.jpg)


Port en Bessin Ingame vs Real life :


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/807659F00.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/189082F27.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/214073R27.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/988618F28.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/795721R28.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/736764F29.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/911635R29.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/456488F30.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/145516R30.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/608429F31.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/151697R31.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/272607F32.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/321219R32.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/917560F33.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/538937R33.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/117047F35.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/572183R35.jpg)


(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/700434F34.jpg)(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/508617R34.jpg)








Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: :| Hi on 23-08-2011, 23:08:04
Wow  :o


Fh2 devs could make professional stalkers ^^
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 23-08-2011, 23:08:48
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Nothing more to say, really. The devs are Gods!
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 23-08-2011, 23:08:23
THAT THEY ARE - THAT THEY ARE

Can't wait for Port en Bessin and Falaise... Maybe Piont du Hoc?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-08-2011, 23:08:21
SHIT THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE STICKY!!!! That is AMAZING!!!!! 0_0
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 23-08-2011, 23:08:12
And called FORGOTTEN HOPE PROPAGANDA THREAD
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-08-2011, 23:08:36
Note that the map Falaise Pocket plays in St Lambert though. That was even the beta name of that map. Don't know why it was changed to a more generic one.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Zulnex on 23-08-2011, 23:08:35
SHIT THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE STICKY!!!! That is AMAZING!!!!! 0_0

I agree 100%. Truly amazing indeed. 8)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Hans Werner on 24-08-2011, 00:08:20
Yup Falaise is St Lambert sur Dive, i have already did all pictures for it and for Port en Bessin, i will post them soon.
I still need to do (go in Normandy to do the picture) Goodwood and Point du Hoc.

Other maps aren't enought accurate to do picutres or it's no longer possible :

Anctoville : Don't know, need to go in Anctoville village to see if the map is accurate.
Viller Bocage : Not accurate at all, only village flag names are good.
Ramelle : LoL 100% accurate for SPR
Lebisey : No longer possible, now Lebisey is a district of Caen city. All this aera have totally changed.
St. Lo. Breakthrough : Don't know, need to go in this aera to see if the map is accurate.
Operation Cobra : Hate this map 0% accurate ;(
Operation Luttich : Not accurate at all, only village flag names are good.
Operation Totalize : Not accurate at all, it's a BF2 Armored Furry vanilla map.
Battle of Brest : Don't know, need to go in Brest city to see if the map is accurate.


For the all other maps well someone live in Belgium or North Afrika ???  ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-08-2011, 00:08:32
Anctoville: Someone mentioned once that this is somewhat accurate. Looking at Google earth it seems to be similar.

St. Lo Breakthrough: This is an accurate representation of a certain point, you can look at it in Google earth, but there are no real landmarks. The roads exist.

Battle of Brest: Kettcar based this on aerial photographs and black and white pics, but I think the city was too destroyed. It will probably look totally different.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: King_Sam on 24-08-2011, 00:08:22
Wow! I never realized how accurate some of the maps actually are! :o

I agree, the devs did a great job on these maps. I can understand why some aren't though, some would be too big or difficult to recreate. But I still like everything on this mod!
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2011, 00:08:47
I know Pont du Hoc was a 1:1 recreation of the actual PdH.  Also, Mersa Matruh and Bardia are very very exacting IIRC.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Eat Uranium on 24-08-2011, 00:08:36
Siege of Giarabub, Fall of Tobruk and Mersa Matruh are also supposedly accurate to what they used to look like.  But I don't expect you feel like a trip to Libya and Egypt at the moment.

Also, I think Bardia and El Al have reasonably accurate terrain features.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: psykfallet on 24-08-2011, 00:08:31
This is why natty has only made that one map  ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 24-08-2011, 01:08:54
Siege of Giarabub, Fall of Tobruk and Mersa Matruh are also supposedly accurate to what they used to look like.  But I don't expect you feel like a trip to Libya and Egypt at the moment.

Also, I think Bardia and El Al have reasonably accurate terrain features.

Bardia really? that map always seemed very vanilla to me (plays very well) maybe because of the abundance of those BF2 bunkers... cool to know its semi-accurate
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Dukat on 24-08-2011, 01:08:49
Very nice pictures.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2011, 04:08:25
Oh, and Lebisey is based off the S-3 map of the actual battlefield:

(http://warchronicle.com/staffsyeo/historiantales_wwii/lebiseys3map.jpg)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 24-08-2011, 06:08:36
Bardia is aparently even bigger than the real place.... I know, right?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Zoologic on 24-08-2011, 06:08:13
Yeah, somehow Natty manages to create the most exciting FPS experience in the game.

Siege of Giarabub and Mersa Matruh match the aerial photography of the actual site nearly 100%. That map by Lobo is surely awesome to the max!
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Raziel on 24-08-2011, 06:08:33
How could you forget Sfakia!!

(http://www.greecetravel.com/crete/chania/sfakion/hora-sfakia2.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/The%20Battle%20for%20Sfakia/image01.jpg)

(http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/sfakia1980-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 24-08-2011, 07:08:35
Oh my, totally forgot. THE DEVS ARE GODS!!!!  :o

What about Alam Halfa? Seige of Torbruk? Gazala?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: DLFReporter on 24-08-2011, 08:08:36
Don't forget MERSA MATRUH!
That map is really accurate as well. :)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Mersa%20Matruh/matruh_03.jpg)
(http://dianabuja.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/u-ofwellingtonn-z-mersa-matruh.jpg?w=509&h=387)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Mersa%20Matruh/matruh_12.jpg)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSzr0BVQ1kVzdvsVylylG4sccYwJQZmnrqcqbLsqvKbQLkebf7jOw)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Natty on 24-08-2011, 09:08:51
thanks to Hans Werner :) those are very nice images indeed, did you take them yourself outside Carentan?

I used a ton of ref images for this map, but I haven't seen many of those you posted. During our trip to Normandy in 2008 I missed to go to this place as well  :-[ we didn't have time, as we rushed around the whole Normandy trying to see everything. (remember only Caen, St mere eglise, Crisbeq Battery, Pegasus Bridge + museum, Omaha Beach + the memorial, Utah Beach + the Utah Museum.. our friends also managed to squeeze in Melville Battery & Sword Beach)
Thinking of going back to see also Mont. St  Michel, Brecourt Manor, Ingouf farm/PHL, Omaha the bunkers (we missed them...), Melville, Juno Beach, Port-en-Bessin and more....

It feels really small when you're there (IIRC it's only about a 150km stretch of land), everywhere are streetsigns with places you recognise the names off which you want to go look at.. It's like a Theme-park!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: DLFReporter on 24-08-2011, 09:08:27
Oh sorry to derail this great thread a bit, but I found this really nice review while looking for the pictures:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.105568-Forgotten-Hope-2-2-2-RELEASED-NORMANDY-IS-HERE

Zeke109 should be on the PR team. ^^
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 24-08-2011, 09:08:54
That's kinda of already on the Fan-made CD cases, most of what he says. And he's reviewing Fh1 for the most part. Barely touches Fh2.

But back OT. I really want to see moar comparison shots.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Hans Werner on 24-08-2011, 09:08:54
thanks to Hans Werner :) those are very nice images indeed, did you take them yourself outside Carentan?

Yup it was last weekend !!! I'm going in Normandy every 6 month and I'm going on old battlefields and villages to take pictures. I did most of famous places and took lots of pictures. That's what is the most existing after doing the museum  ;D
Port en Bessin and St Lambert sur Dive maps are also really impressive by their accuracy, it's feel so strange when you are on these places and you feel to know them perfectly just because you played lots of time the map in FH2  :D

If you want to go back there, just have a look on this website, everything you have to see is in with location and contact :

http://www.normandie44lamemoire.com/versionanglaise/indexus.html

WW2 Addict  ;D

 
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Natty on 24-08-2011, 09:08:18
do you have a public online photoalbum Hans?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Hans Werner on 24-08-2011, 10:08:31
Nope but i can upload pics of specifics places if you need ?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: NTH on 24-08-2011, 10:08:07
Nice job you did there Hans. It's really appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Oberst on 24-08-2011, 10:08:33
Citation from the english wikipedia article about "point du hoc":

Quote
It also exists as a map in Forgotten Hope 2, a Battlefield 2 mod.

Somehow I am sure, on from this forum did that.   ;)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: LuckyOne on 24-08-2011, 10:08:10
Yep that's what really attracted me to this mod... That and the fact that it's the best freaking WWII shooter ever made... (that's still doesn't mean your work is finished devs!  ;))
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: djinn on 24-08-2011, 11:08:30
In the same way that the argument goes, there is little reason for fake maps when enough excitement can be gotten from real battle maps, I say, there is no reason for maps that have little bearing on the battles they represent, when arguably, the top ten most enjoyed maps (Maybe more), are ALL real to life. I think this should be a standard set by devs to slowly phase out the I-don't-know-how-on-earth-this-place-can-exist-on-this-planet-but-the-name-says-its-called-operation-AorB of the mod altogether.

FH1 got rid of its fatty edges, I think this could also be the case... say after map number 48, start redoing some of the wince-maps.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Gezoes on 24-08-2011, 13:08:46
Oh no you don't. No arguably, no debate, no argument. Please Djinn. For once. Please!!

Great pictures Hans, thanks so much for sharing. Amazing. Can't wait for the next bunch 8)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: hitm4k3r on 24-08-2011, 13:08:53
Very nice pictures Hans Werer. They kinda remind me of the photos and the comparison of ingame shoots in the first Brothers in Arms Games (RtH30 and EiB). This accuracy was also a fact, why I loved BiA so much. In FH2 I have never thougth about this accuracy of the battlefields in general, but your photos are very impressive. Good job and please show your Falais and PeB pictures soon as possible, as I can't wait to see it. ;)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Slayer on 24-08-2011, 13:08:48
Wow, cool!

Someone who is good at making clips should make a YouTube vid out of comparison shots, call it "FH2 cool and realistic BF2mod" and put it up on the channel!
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: jan_kurator on 24-08-2011, 14:08:22
about PeB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzd1gCc5CO8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzd1gCc5CO8&feature=related)

This video shows fighting in villgae of Ouistreham from the movie The Longest Day, although the film location for Ouistreham was actually at Port-en-Bessin...  you can see some similar places there ;)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Shrapnel on 24-08-2011, 19:08:41
That was pretty epic.  ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: ajappat on 24-08-2011, 19:08:54
On picture of the day thread someone posted aerial image of Tobruk. It was sick how I could recognize all the places from real pic  ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Butcher on 24-08-2011, 19:08:23
dont forget the church on operation goodwood:

(http://images.bf-games.net/news/2009/05/8954_8.jpg)

(http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/Historical/Montysmeatgrinder/Operation-Goodwood-04.jpg)

and especially brest:

(http://images.bf-games.net/news/2010/09/9878_2.jpg)

(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/367551-2/Brest44)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Malsa on 24-08-2011, 20:08:36
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/statics/Tobruk%20Church/big.jpg)

(http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/24012010/2637908/23_aw.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Fall%20of%20Tobruk/FallTobruk_02.jpg)

(http://www.eucmh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/WW2-AK-Tobruk-Libya-Church-600x619.jpg)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Oberst on 24-08-2011, 20:08:14
Platamon castle from Mount Olympus map:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Platamonas%2C_Pieria_prefecture%2C_Greece.jpg)

(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/50116/platamon.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Mount%20Olympus/olympus_09.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Mount%20Olympus/olympus_03.jpg)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Wilhelm on 24-08-2011, 23:08:34
I knew someone had done something similar for Lebisey and, thanks to google, I found the post.

I had made this post a few month ago on the 79th forum when 2.2 was out, today i found it and i thought that would be useful here.

Well as i live near Lebisey , i wanted to compare a little the map from FH2 with the real situation of Lebisey today. I put a screenshot taken in FH2 with the other one taken on Google maps.
First the minimap:

FH2: (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2863/fh2carte.th.jpg) (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2863/fh2carte.jpg) Maps: (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/955/minimaplebiseymaps.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/955/minimaplebiseymaps.jpg)

Minimap pictures.

FH2: (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5443/fh2cartelegende.th.jpg) (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5443/fh2cartelegende.jpg) Maps: (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6081/cartelebisey.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6081/cartelebisey.jpg)


Pictures and screenshots.

1- (http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6235/fh21.th.jpg) (http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6235/fh21.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4571/56897256.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4571/56897256.jpg)

2- (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6940/fh22.th.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6940/fh22.jpg) (http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/337/87964412.th.jpg) (http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/337/87964412.jpg)

3- (http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8915/fh23.th.jpg) (http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8915/fh23.jpg) (http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7874/88982013.th.jpg) (http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7874/88982013.jpg)

4- (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1672/fh24.th.jpg) (http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1672/fh24.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9775/11293130.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9775/11293130.jpg)

5- (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9291/fh25.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9291/fh25.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2355/81103912.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2355/81103912.jpg)

6- (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1087/fh26.th.jpg) (http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1087/fh26.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6205/75904111.th.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6205/75904111.jpg)

7- (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6371/fh27.th.jpg) (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6371/fh27.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5966/21815368.th.jpg) (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5966/21815368.jpg)

8- (http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/734/fh2eastat8.th.jpg) (http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/734/fh2eastat8.jpg) (http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8104/eastat8.th.jpg) (http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8104/eastat8.jpg)

9- (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7135/fh2carrefour9.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7135/fh2carrefour9.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/951/carrefour9.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/951/carrefour9.jpg)

10- (http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8958/fh2campallemand10.th.jpg) (http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8958/fh2campallemand10.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2366/campallemand10.th.jpg) (http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2366/campallemand10.jpg)

11- (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1690/fh211.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1690/fh211.jpg) (http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4634/76184362.th.jpg) (http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4634/76184362.jpg)

12- (http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2861/fh212.th.jpg) (http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2861/fh212.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1606/71818205.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1606/71818205.jpg)

13- (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2636/fh213.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2636/fh213.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2295/61710959.th.jpg) (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2295/61710959.jpg)

14- (http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4305/fh214.th.jpg) (http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4305/fh214.jpg) (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1449/55395862.th.jpg) (http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1449/55395862.jpg)

And a historical map (you can see it on the loading screen). The north is on the bottom.
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4015/cartelebisey1944.th.jpg) (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4015/cartelebisey1944.jpg)

So, this was just to compare the reality and the virtual, this is no easy to made something lost 65 years in the past.
Today, expect for the city, the rest didn't change. The wood was at the same place and the fields was here.
The little problems i have found is the descent you can see on the picture 1. The church, there is no church at Lebisey.  And the houses >:(...but this is my problem  ;D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Hans Werner on 24-08-2011, 23:08:14
Falaise (Saint Lambert sur Dive) & Port en Bessin has been added to first post pics !  :)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: King_Sam on 25-08-2011, 03:08:06
Excellent comparison! Thank you for taking the time to show us how realistic FH2 actually is. :D
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: :| Hi on 25-08-2011, 03:08:05
Isn't Giarabub an exact copy?
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-08-2011, 03:08:27
Pretty much:
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7540/giarabub1.gif)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 25-08-2011, 14:08:13
Well,

Purple Heart Lane, Falaise and Port en Bessin are done.
I will try to do Goodwood (Cagny), Pointe du Hoc and Anctoville next time I will go to Normandy.
Lebisey has been made by Fuzz.
To bad Villers-Bocage map is fake, i have lots of pictures of Villers-Bocage and Tilly sur Seulles villages.
L├╝ttich, Cobra, Totalize, Ramelle are fake also, there are nothing to compare.

About Saint Lo, did someone have more information about the location of the map ? I tried to find on google earth where it's located but i didn't found. I suppose the map area is on the North of St Lo city ?

Brest could be interesting to do also but I'm never going over there !! 
And for all other maps, up to Belgium, Greek, Afrikaner and Libyan Rebel to do it for us  ;D

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: flyboy_fx on 25-08-2011, 18:08:15
Sticky this thread NAO! This stuff is too amazing to be lost in the FH2 forums!!!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: IrishReloaded on 25-08-2011, 18:08:16
Some pics from one of the best maps.
Port en Bessin.

I walked from Arromanches to Port en Bessin, around 11km, on the way there was the battery longues sur mer. I entered Port en Bessin from the eastern hill. On the way you could see many mg and mortar bunkers.

 
(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010933rryj.jpg)
View from my path to the hill of PeB
(http://www.abload.de/img/p10109346r69.jpg)
he trenches are still visible

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010937pqgu.jpg)
View from the hill to the harbour

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010938sptr.jpg)
And to the Church

(http://www.abload.de/img/p10109400p5e.jpg)
The heart of the village

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010941rrht.jpg)


(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010943grwq.jpg)
The tower, in the backround the bridge

(http://www.abload.de/img/p10109442obc.jpg)
Roundabout at the old gun position.

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010945goag.jpg)






It just feels cool when you walk into a foreign village and you know pretty much just from a game  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: djinn on 25-08-2011, 19:08:36
The fifth picture by itself is the one that makes me stare in awe... 67 years on its still clear the exact layout of the battlefield... The iconic building from The Longest Day is gone, but the bridge, the roads, the hill as seen ingame... its all RIGHT there.

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Gezoes on 25-08-2011, 19:08:10
I vote for a sticky too, this is a feast for the eyes, and wonderful pr. Perhaps we should put some of these in the site map sections? If that's ok with Hans (or Irish or the next guy). Planning a Normandy trip in the coming years, so these are very helpful and fun. Reminds me of a WWI photo-book I have, it shows then and now, just like these.

I knew the maps were close to the real thing, but this is stunning. On top of that, these are from the 21th century and it's still VERY recognizable. We have to visit all the maps now! Libya might be a bit tricky, but Tobruk seems quiet ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Paasky on 25-08-2011, 20:08:30
PeB was freaky when I went there. We actually had a picnic of baguettes, local honey & local cider (bought from the market by the docks) around the left-side flagzone :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 25-08-2011, 20:08:01
Of course put this topic where you want ;)
I have shared these pics for the pleasure of everybody  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: flyboy_fx on 25-08-2011, 20:08:02
PeB was freaky when I went there. We actually had a picnic of baguettes, local honey & local cider (bought from the market by the docks) around the left-side flagzone :P

OMG! That is cool! Now, things like this make me wish I did not live in the US... All we have is.... MCdonalds overlooking a beach of fat people.. :( xD
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: IrishReloaded on 25-08-2011, 20:08:01
same goes for me :)

some more from point du hoc :D



(http://www.abload.de/img/p101094697xv.jpg)

around eastern US spawmpoint to the rock

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010948s7ta.jpg)

Iirc between Ammo and Flakbunker ?


(http://www.abload.de/img/p10109520774.jpg)

looking to sea from observation bunker

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010954o754.jpg)
The room where the beds are inside in FH

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010953o7yd.jpg)

and this is where I always take cover when we have party bunker

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010956o73m.jpg)

just a wounderfull pic, looks more like caribean than Canal.


(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010958a7lo.jpg)

some destroyed bunker

(http://www.abload.de/img/p1010959h78w.jpg)



Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: GuinNess on 25-08-2011, 21:08:13
On Irishs Interrail trip through Europe, he went to visit me (Hugo) in Luxemburg for a couple of days. We went to Eppeldorf to see if there is any recognition value to the FH2 map. Enjoy the images. Next Winter I try to post some *real* Eppeldorf pictures with snow, so stay tuned ;)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf0036kko.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf004y8sy.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf007d87s.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf011p8g3.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf0121jzd.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf01818rf.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/eppeldorf024wkhv.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 25-08-2011, 23:08:25
I should be ashamed, I know, but here I go anyways;

So me and my family were on a vacation to Crete 2 years ago. We decided to walk some mountain pass route, and at the end we could pay for a taxi to drive us back to where we parked our car. As there was 4 of us, me and my two brothers had to sit at the rear of the pickup, so we got a quite nice view.

So we were on our way up mountainroad and I glanced towards the sea I saw a village, and Sfakia instantly popped into my mind (thanks for FH). Turned out it was, but sadly there was no time to visit. I don't know how I managed to forget that Sfakia is in Crete.

Also took a couple of pictures during our trip to Normandy 3 years ago. PdH, Omaha and Sword beach among the places we visited. Never made it to Carentan as we couldn't find the way  :(
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: hslan.Tulit on 27-08-2011, 17:08:45
All of this pics are WOW :o
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 27-08-2011, 19:08:43
Pointe du Hoc and Omaha beach. All pictures taken by me. Sadly I have nothing to compare them to, so feel free to do it.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6192/6086395170_bc0b5d26c4_z.jpg)
PdH, this was during the evening.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6085850531_f06120e078_z.jpg)
Looking west.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6086401600_8345485891_z.jpg)
Looking east.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6188/6086406552_59f059d1bd_z.jpg)
West again.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6077/6086410984_f1706804dc_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6190/6085867631_d2bde918a9_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6200/6085870309_fe33ea3df7_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6086422104_3a7756ce62_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6086425506_9e8ea2f973_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6183/6086429312_b5285283ce_z.jpg)
Not really allowed to go in here but my sister insisted on taking a picture. This is the bunker close to the edge of the cliff.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6073/6086432846_0b671dcd83_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6199/6085889861_e53273758d_z.jpg)
The "beach" beneath.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/6086442926_88cb39d04b_z.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6185/6085898599_d989c523ab_z.jpg)
You can see the monument standing on top of the bunker.

Omaha beach

These were all taken from Fox Green/Fox Red sectors. Have a couple more from other sectors but I haven't found them yet.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6083/6085902443_94ec217134_z.jpg)
Looking west.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6085906669_b8cb02df7b_z.jpg)
Overlooking the beach. Has grown a lot since 1944 so not much to see.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/6085911189_36b11c335f_z.jpg)
Fox red, looking east. Very end of beach.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/6086463760_4559bbe4b0_z.jpg)
Looking west.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6086468560_daba16d516_z.jpg)
Fox Green/Fox Red hill.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6205/6086472584_c5a3802d05_z.jpg)
Fox Red hill.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/6086475972_2a3ede4e17_z.jpg)
Looking towards Fox Green and onwars. This was taken from the foot of the hill.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6198/6086479238_8665297c54_z.jpg)
Taken from the remains of a bunker.



Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Laboraffe on 27-08-2011, 20:08:39

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6183/6086429312_b5285283ce_z.jpg)
Not really allowed to go in here but my sister insisted on taking a picture. This is the bunker close to the edge.

Cool pics. I like the ground-level port. That would definitely need a flamethrower to neutralize in FH2. While not in a bunker, it reminds me of those cellar machine-gun positions in Operation Goodwood from which I've racked up a few kills. ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: IrishReloaded on 27-08-2011, 20:08:05
you know that this bunker is 1:1 in fh 2?  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: kettcar on 27-08-2011, 21:08:34
@ Hans Werner

can i copy some pics to a german Forum?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Laboraffe on 27-08-2011, 21:08:08
I confess I have not gotten around on PdH. Does the port have an MG in it though? Will have to check it out by creating a multiplayer game for one. <- forever alone/curious
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-08-2011, 21:08:24
I confess I have not gotten around on PdH. Does the port have an MG in it though? Will have to check it out by creating a multiplayer game for one. <- forever alone/curious

I don't think it has an mg in that port, but one further back covering the entrance, plus one MG34 in the Tobruk hatch.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 27-08-2011, 22:08:04
Just ran around on PdH trying to take some screenshots to compare with my photos, but I couldn't even figure out where I took them which led to not finding them in FH2 either  :-[ Dumb me. Someone else feel free to attempt it.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: djinn on 27-08-2011, 22:08:22
not that port, but the one not visible.. if it is really there, to the right. THAT one has an mg
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 27-08-2011, 23:08:50
While we're talking historical accuracy: why does the Crete map cover such a big area compared to other maps? Wouldn't it be better to just focus on one battle within Crete instead of making a miniature of the Chania/Souda bay area?

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Laboraffe on 27-08-2011, 23:08:30
I ran about a bit too and like Ts4EVER says there is an MG at the end of the hallway facing the pictured entrance (reminicent of FH1 Charlie Sector west bunker). And on the right side opposite the empty port is another little hidey hole to cover the approach (through probably a death trap for grenades lobbed into the open space).
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 28-08-2011, 00:08:02
While we're talking historical accuracy: why does the Crete map cover such a big area compared to other maps? Wouldn't it be better to just focus on one battle within Crete instead of making a miniature of the Chania/Souda bay area?
not all maps are accurate in FH2 in sake of gameplay. This one is actually a remake of very popular bf1942 FH1 map. I wish to see completely changed Crete and Aberdeen someday.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 28-08-2011, 00:08:48
While we're talking historical accuracy: why does the Crete map cover such a big area compared to other maps? Wouldn't it be better to just focus on one battle within Crete instead of making a miniature of the Chania/Souda bay area?
not all maps are accurate in FH2 in sake of gameplay. This one is actually a remake of very popular bf1942 FH1 map. I wish to see completely changed Crete and Aberdeen someday.

Yes, yes, I know it's a remake. As you said, I'd like to see a revamp of Crete. Either a bigger map or focus on one area instead of a big chunk of Crete cramped into a small map.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Comrade Roe on 28-08-2011, 00:08:48
Armored Furry

That just cracks me up so terribly.

More on topic: Yeah, not bad. Also, perhaps Norman countryside was largely changed since 1944..
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-08-2011, 00:08:16
Armored Furry

That just cracks me up so terribly.


Well the map is well liked and that counts for much.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: djinn on 28-08-2011, 10:08:04
While we're talking historical accuracy: why does the Crete map cover such a big area compared to other maps? Wouldn't it be better to just focus on one battle within Crete instead of making a miniature of the Chania/Souda bay area?
not all maps are accurate in FH2 in sake of gameplay. This one is actually a remake of very popular bf1942 FH1 map. I wish to see completely changed Crete and Aberdeen someday.

Yes, yes, I know it's a remake. As you said, I'd like to see a revamp of Crete. Either a bigger map or focus on one area instead of a big chunk of Crete cramped into a small map.

That wont be 'crete', more cretan village. But yer, something like Sfakia...
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Slayer on 28-08-2011, 15:08:33
While we're talking historical accuracy: why does the Crete map cover such a big area compared to other maps? Wouldn't it be better to just focus on one battle within Crete instead of making a miniature of the Chania/Souda bay area?
not all maps are accurate in FH2 in sake of gameplay. This one is actually a remake of very popular bf1942 FH1 map. I wish to see completely changed Crete and Aberdeen someday.
Eehm, no, it is not a remake. Yes, there was a Crete 1941 map in Fh1, but that was different from this one in many aspects, like the Brits had tanks (multiple real ones, not that Vickers thingy) there, and the Germans had a Bf110, etc. It also had a hill full of defenses in the western part of the map, with barbed wire, trenches and AT guns.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 28-08-2011, 17:08:20
@ Hans Werner

can i copy some pics to a german Forum?

Yes of course ;)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Zoologic on 28-08-2011, 18:08:50
Armored Furry

That just cracks me up so terribly.


Well the map is well liked and that counts for much.

The map is well liked because:

1. Natty's theory about level design, EA applies it, and FH2 revamps it.
2. The only "bright light" late war map with fighters, heavy tanks, on both sides, come together. This make the map a complete one.
3. One of few maps that stays true to original Battlefield game concept. (multiple roles, combined land & air aspects, strategic points)
4. We believe too much on FH2's historical accuracy without doing our own research.

Try to make some "less historically accurate" map with this idea, I'm sure we're all gonna forget the accuracy thingy and started enjoying it anyway.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-08-2011, 18:08:00
I'm sure we're all gonna forget the accuracy thingy and started enjoying it anyway.

Never.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Zoologic on 28-08-2011, 18:08:24
So do you have any griefs for Totalize flippy?

How about Ramelle and Aberdeen? :P

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-08-2011, 18:08:21
Obviously a map doesn't have to be historically accurate to be fun. However, as you can see int his thread, mappers who know what they are doing can make a map fun and reasonably accurate.
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: General_Henry on 28-08-2011, 18:08:28
Armored Furry

That just cracks me up so terribly.


Well the map is well liked and that counts for much.

The map is well liked because:

1. Natty's theory about level design, EA applies it, and FH2 revamps it.
2. The only "bright light" late war map with fighters, heavy tanks, on both sides, come together. This make the map a complete one.
3. One of few maps that stays true to original Battlefield game concept. (multiple roles, combined land & air aspects, strategic points)
4. We believe too much on FH2's historical accuracy without doing our own research.

Try to make some "less historically accurate" map with this idea, I'm sure we're all gonna forget the accuracy thingy and started enjoying it anyway.

you think being bombed by the Luftwaffe in a sherman and strafed in a M10 Achilles is something acceptable?

The German armour should be air-raped by the Allied forces but they'll find their way out like employing AA/hiding well and wait for good chance to use them rather than being a mobile bunker. That's it. The current balance tends to be unfavourable to the Canadians when there are fewer players(less than 40) as the Canadians need to use TD/planes to kill German tanks while the Germans could use any of their tanks to take out a column of advancing Canadian tanks. (A well played marder could ruin the day of many tankers, at least the first wave)

of course a good pilot in the typhoon is another story. But if the good pilot is in the German side then game is almost over for the Canadians. They'll have to fight the tigers with firefly and M10 one on one.

Historical accuracy is something that makes sense, that fits the popular stories of WWII, frankly, even the fictional Ramelle Neuville makes more sense than this operation totalize... (i.e. Tigers epic-pwning but get bombed to shit by planes)

(gameplay is not bad on totalize it just don't make sense)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-08-2011, 18:08:43
So do you have any griefs for Totalize flippy?

How about Ramelle and Aberdeen? :P

I do for all of the ones you mentioned but the griefs vary from level by level basis.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: VonMudra on 28-08-2011, 19:08:52
Uuuuhhhh, that Pont du hoc bunker is in FH2, on Pont du Hoc.... :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: kettcar on 29-08-2011, 07:08:22
@ Hans Werner

can i copy some pics to a german Forum?

Yes of course ;)

thank you, nice work :-)
Title: Re: Why I love so much FH2 ?
Post by: Natty on 29-08-2011, 07:08:32
1. Natty's theory about level design, EA applies it, and FH2 revamps it.

what "theory"? Levedesign is a highly practical job. I dont "theorize" in anything.
also, I didnt make totalize, Fenring did. By adapting one of the best heightmaps that DICE has done. We could never create such a perfect heightmap for tank battle, it's ingenious, it's forged to support tankbattle, while many of our realistic maps are static, and we try to make the fights support the maps.

Two very different approaches to making maps. Both can lead to great results, both can fall on their asses. It all depends on how observative you are to problems. A realistic map can fail horribly in gameplay if it sticks too much to realism, a made-up map can fail too much in bringing a "story" or "purpose" to players who expects both of that, and more.

Personally I think Totalize can provide epic moments, but the moments dont belong to any larger context, so I don't get much out of playing the map, where as in Port-en-Bessin, I do. In Ramelle I do as well, because I know what context it puts me in. Crete is the same, allthough being a very unrealistic map (unless we pretend to be 100 feet giants), it has a compelling design and story attached to it.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: [QPS]_Sex_Bomb on 31-08-2011, 17:08:43
Imho, map Totalize feels wrong for the simple fact that no river was crossed by allies in this particular operation.

On the other hand, another operation, "Epsom", better match the setup of the FH2 map.  The British operation was a tank offensive crossing odon river to take highground (hill 112) that really looks like the "artillery battery" in totalize map. 

You can compare by yourself

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Totalize/minimap.jpg)

(http://www.onwar.com/maps/wwii/normandy/normmaps/c10p90r.jpg)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 01-09-2011, 12:09:16
Imho, map Totalize feels wrong for the simple fact that no river was crossed by allies in this particular operation.

On the other hand, another operation, "Epsom", better match the setup of the FH2 map.  The British operation was a tank offensive crossing odon river to take highground (hill 112) that really looks like the "artillery battery" in totalize map. 

You can compare by yourself

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Totalize/minimap.jpg)

(http://www.onwar.com/maps/wwii/normandy/normmaps/c10p90r.jpg)



I have lots of real pictures of Hill 112 if you want ;))) It's in middle of nowhere in a Normand field !!!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Slayer on 01-09-2011, 13:09:52
I have the feeling that Sex Bomb wanted to link to a pic on a site which doesn't allow hotlinking  :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: hslan.totaler_humbug on 07-09-2011, 00:09:51
Still we have to find a map more accurate then Giarbub. Not only buildings are exactly the same, nearly everything fits into the historical layouts!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: evhgear on 07-09-2011, 00:09:14
Still we have to find a map more accurate then Giarbub. Not only buildings are exactly the same, nearly everything fits into the historical layouts!
infantry boot camp  ?? XD
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: LHeureux on 07-09-2011, 10:09:21
Wow totalize is like 1:1 Armored Furry map! Never saw this  :-[
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-09-2011, 10:09:00
Wow totalize is like 1:1 Armored Furry map! Never saw this  :-[
because totalize has its heightmap... and it's a good map! ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Josh094 on 07-09-2011, 16:09:02
It'd be cool to see Totalize renamed Operation Epsom and have a realistic Totalize map made...
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: evhgear on 07-09-2011, 17:09:21
^^

I have absolutly no problems to see any new maps on Western front :D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-09-2011, 17:09:04
yeah, good idea. But be carefull and don't make too big map!!  ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Zehnder on 19-09-2011, 04:09:01
HUGE props to the Devs.  Your tireless and often thankless efforts do not go lost on all of us.  WUNDERBAR!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Fuchs on 19-09-2011, 12:09:22
You should play the mod, Zehnder! And so should other long lost 130th people.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Zehnder on 20-09-2011, 15:09:33
Herr Fuchs!  What's up buddy! 

The sole and still only reason I'm not playing FH is because I am out of work and STILL don't have a computer that can run anything more powerful than MS Word.  I intended to be back years ago and here were are approaching 2012.  I won't go away though, I'll always try and come back to these forums or the 130th forums.

I thought I saw (earlier this week when I searched) we had a closed Facebook group but I can't find it anymore.  PM me on here.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 20-09-2011, 17:09:05
We don't really have a 130th forums or Venty anymore.

http://awards.fh2.ifihada.com/search

Type in 130 and you will cry.

Danzigs Venty is down or moved.  Bauer and friends are wanking it to some sort of Star Wars MMO.  The forums got jacked by the fucking Russians years ago and the poop temp forums have not seen any action in over a year.  The only person I play with anymore is Roth on the WaW TS3 (maybe Segur during the summer).
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Fuchs on 21-09-2011, 16:09:08
Hope you get some work soon, Zehnder!

Would play WaW with you Lainer but lack the time for it.. Can't play on fixed times  :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Paasky on 25-09-2011, 16:09:36
Tobruk, 1941:
(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ww2_5/w05_02071109.jpg)

Look familiar?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: evhgear on 25-09-2011, 21:09:57
I cant see the church !!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-09-2011, 21:09:49
I cant see the church !!

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1949/5756.png

Inside the red circle.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Wilhelm on 25-09-2011, 21:09:31
I cant see the church !!

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1949/5756.png

Inside the red circle.

Damn it, Flippy!  You beat me to it!  I was just going to post the same thing you did...... :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Thorondor123 on 25-09-2011, 22:09:29
Speaking of the church...

(http://warart.archives.govt.nz/files/images/NCWA_00064.preview.jpeg)
Someone go and take a pic from this spot :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-12-2011, 23:12:47
For the record:

(http://www.asmera.nl/eritrea2009/Eritrea952604.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/111225/keren14.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 25-12-2011, 23:12:28
Would play WaW with you Lainer but lack the time for it.. Can't play on fixed times  :P

The only fixed time is a 10 hour window every Saturday whenever you feel like it over a 4 month period.  I think you can swing that.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Laffey on 29-12-2011, 02:12:29
Mersa Matruh as far as I recall is a 1:1 remake of the real battle, hell theres a WW2 picture of the mosque lurking somewhere in the forums
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 31-07-2012, 20:07:38
After 1 year of my first post on this subject, here are my new picture !!!
Pointe du Hoc Ingame vs Real life (plus coming soon "Operation Goodwood" & "St. Lo. Breakthrough") :


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/890975MapPointduHoc.jpg)


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/706824Real01.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/700032Game01.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/176582Real02.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/503271Game02.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/430870Real03.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/148442Game03.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/437095Real04.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/553896Game04.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/165189Real05.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/236842Game05.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/530297Real06.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/454520Game06.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/425642Real07.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/597761Game07.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/265601Real08.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/622263Game08.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/999453Real09.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/739238Game09.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/680623Real10.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/534950Game10.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/497702Real11.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/183466Game11.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/835636Real12.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/713138Game12.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/120181Real13.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/227763Game13.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/469537Real14.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/388307Game14.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/638412Real15.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/526719Game15.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/881274Real16.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/612047Game16.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/586340Real17.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/388525Game17.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/393683Real18.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/407943Game18.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/890227Real19.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/148430Game19.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/298206Real20.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/679582Game20.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/943800Real21.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/645113Game21.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/709584Real22.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/494223Game22.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/524781Real23.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/263844Game23.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/560727Real24.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/459983Game24.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/362887Real25.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/370343Game25.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/306879Real26.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/907756Game26.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/137386Real27.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/388029Game27.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/151808Real28.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/208284Game28.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/860619Real29.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/441353Game29.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/236733Real30.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/602232Game30.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/450752Real31.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/189718Game31.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/624464Real32.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/364664Game32.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/776914Real33.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/699269Game33.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/790703Real34.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/787581Game34.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/148693Real35.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/892352Game35.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/464603Real36.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/985756Game36.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/524469Real37.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/398122Game37.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/776407Real38.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/670496Game38.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/962693Real39.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/550186Game39.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/724241Real40.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/366534Game40.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/818652Real41.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/401657Game41.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/175177Real42.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/240129Game42.jpg)



Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: ajappat on 31-07-2012, 20:07:53
That is just insane  :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: McCloskey on 31-07-2012, 21:07:41
so..many...pics..i cant even
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Oddball on 31-07-2012, 21:07:03
How did I just see this thread. Absolutely Impressive... Fine work gentlemen, to those designing and building the maps and those documenting the comparisons!  :o

Edit: Reviewing the pictures of Pointe Du Hoc, the battle damage of the bunkers and only make you just imagine what happened... I know for me it brings eerie images of fighting and the screams of the soldiers whom that would be there last fight.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 31-07-2012, 23:07:04
Well freakin done on those bunker statics.. I never realized how true to life those actually were
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 31-07-2012, 23:07:43
Excellent post Hans Werner! I was going to do something similiar, I was amazed at how incredibly accurate the PDH map is :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Surfbird on 01-08-2012, 00:08:32
Yea, it's indeed amazing. Nice job with the pictures as well as with the accurate map design :) Just seems there could be a little bit more green around, especially close to the rocks and the beach. Or do did that all vanish within the artillery fire ?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 01-08-2012, 08:08:05
Yea, it's indeed amazing. Nice job with the pictures as well as with the accurate map design :) Just seems there could be a little bit more green around, especially close to the rocks and the beach. Or do did that all vanish within the artillery fire ?

In 1944 PDH was more looking like the moon than a peacefull field like today due to the arty fire so the FH2 map is more than accurate on this point ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 01-08-2012, 16:08:50
"Operation Goodwood" Ingame vs Real life :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/265294MapGoodwood.jpg)


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/124897Game02.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/172129Real02.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/392910Game03.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/308922Real03.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/506929Game04.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/344882Real04.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/785576Game05.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/644460Real05.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/769691Game06.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/165179Real06.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/131275Game07.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/329722Real07.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/561551Game08.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/148018Real08.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/648104Game09.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/129230Real09.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/888798Game12.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/957423Real12.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/798259Game13.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/726781Real13.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/515441Game10.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/996964Real10.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/288584Game11.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/335385Real11a.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/502548Real11b.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/837065Game14.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/366698Real14.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/279343Game15.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/163733Real15.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/372751Game16.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/330275Real16.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/611709Game17.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/511903Real17.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/643629Game18.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/407047Real18.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/920123Game19.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/362893Real19.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/765525Game20.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/368084Real20.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/792733Game21.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/783744Real21.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/777791Game21bis.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/581806Real21bis.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/997522Game01.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/7726361944TigervsSherman.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/8813292004TigervsSherman.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/505643Real01a.jpg)
More info about the Sherman who rammed the King Tiger during operation Goodwood as see on picture above :
http://ww2guards.com/ww2guards/AWARDS_F_-_L/Pages/GORMAN_JOHN_REGINALD,_M.C.,_2ARMD.html

"Saint-Lo Breakthrough" Ingame vs Real life :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/522322MapSaintLo.jpg)


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/572477Game22.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/211964Real22.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/420319Game23.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/171080Real23.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/559117Game24.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/998422Real24.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/314420Game25.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/748354Real25.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/161659Game26.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/261620Real26.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/489264Game27.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/788643Real27.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/327905Game28.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/432171Real28.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/492298Game29.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/895244Real29.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/913972Game30.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/744372Real30.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/820063Game31.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/765051Real31.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/926349Game32.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/365864Real32.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/754273Game33.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/599151Real33.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/354429Game35.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/678945Real35.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/142558Game36.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/470158Real36.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/317827Game37.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/900635Real37.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/482740Game38.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/144737Real38.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/561357Game39.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/738325Real39.jpg)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-08-2012, 17:08:01
I always said St Lo had not enough Bocage.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 01-08-2012, 19:08:48
I always said St Lo had not enough Bocage.

Should be closer to luttich type bocage density imo
and m4a1 should be fitted with this ;)
(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-A-StLo/img/USA-A-StLo-p56a.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 01-08-2012, 23:08:24
I always said St Lo had not enough Bocage.

Agreed, to have been in this aera and to have read really good books on this battle (29th US Infantry and their advance to Saint Lo) all the report, veterant and historian are talking about the density of bocage and the nightmare of the bloodly hedgerow fight !!!
IMO more Bocage on this map would be welcome ;)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: colores on 02-08-2012, 16:08:31
Good work Hans Werner... and developers!
I can use the images in a Battlefield forum of Argentina? The credits will be yours.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 03-08-2012, 08:08:24
Of course you can, please just post here the link of where you will post it ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: AfterDune on 03-08-2012, 11:08:49
I love this thread, well done, both mappers and picture takers ;).
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: colores on 03-08-2012, 14:08:08
Of course you can, please just post here the link of where you will post it ;)

Thanks Hans!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: NTH on 03-08-2012, 21:08:14
Hans Out fucking standing again! Next year do Gazala, Crete and Tunis please.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Wakain on 03-08-2012, 23:08:48
this thread remains spectacular!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: IrishReloaded on 10-08-2012, 18:08:11
This winter I visisted Hugo Stiglitz - Ben - again and we decided to make a trip to see the historical battlefields of Bastogne and Foy.
After almost 8 months we found some time to upload real life pics with ingame screenshot. The authenthy of the game is undescripable, and we had no problems finding our way there even without a map, and we were able to recognice scenic viewpoints and important places in the game as well.


Outside Bastonge, direction NE
(http://www.abload.de/img/1lxko5.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/1azyjyw.jpg)

On the way to Bizory
(http://www.abload.de/img/3dajmy.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/3aahokmm.jpg)

Keeping roling
(http://www.abload.de/img/48cjd0.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/4at9jvz.jpg)

STreet to Bizory
(http://www.abload.de/img/5bsk16.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/5aexj7q.jpg)

Bizory
(http://www.abload.de/img/6vgk3a.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/77djzn.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/7arvk40.jpg)

Grayhound Spawmpoints is now a "cowzone"
(http://www.abload.de/img/87xk9o.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/8a93kwy.jpg)

Crossing at Bizory
(http://www.abload.de/img/9d3kgg.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/9az6kob.jpg)

The barn looks as worse then and now
(http://www.abload.de/img/109kjqh.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/10alkke2.jpg)

Goingto Magaret

(http://www.abload.de/img/1230kz2.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/137dkgf.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/11pmjk5.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/11a7pkyq.jpg)


On the way to mont

(http://www.abload.de/img/14iikvi.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/14a2fkd1.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/16wskkr.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/17xyjne.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/19uuk0f.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/19aunkwa.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/18hxket.jpg)


(http://www.abload.de/img/21ghj3q.jpg)g
(http://www.abload.de/img/21a8akcp.jpg)

Hope you enjoyed the pics and Hugo will upload the 2nd part soon :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: GuinNess on 10-08-2012, 18:08:14
(http://www.abload.de/img/235zjkj.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/2246js5.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/22a7bk5b.jpg)

Church of Wardin
(http://www.abload.de/img/240wkz6.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/24aedjdt.jpg)

Crossroads at Wardin
(http://www.abload.de/img/250bjlw.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/25astk18.jpg)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-08-2012, 18:08:13
hurraay belgium!

How did those fine belgian beers tasted you?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 10-08-2012, 19:08:10
Most interesting thread on here in months!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: colores on 10-08-2012, 19:08:06
Of course you can, please just post here the link of where you will post it ;)

http://foros.cerolag.com/f-battlefield-1942-100/t-exactitud-historica-en-fh2-70370.html
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 12-08-2012, 15:08:09
Hans Out fucking standing again! Next year do Gazala, Crete and Tunis please.

I would love to go visit these places  ;D

Of course you can, please just post here the link of where you will post it ;)

http://foros.cerolag.com/f-battlefield-1942-100/t-exactitud-historica-en-fh2-70370.html

Thanks Colores ;)


@ GuinNess & IrishReloaded good job on your Belgium pictures :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: FatJoe on 14-08-2012, 12:08:14
Hans Werner, GuinNess & IrishReloaded, thank you so much for these comparison shots, they are amazing! :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: SJonni on 15-08-2012, 13:08:57
I'll dig up some of my Crete photos and post here. Not sure how good they are to compare with FH2 though. I visited Chania, Souda Bay and the Maleme graveyard. I could also post of pictures just for the sake of letting people see what it looks like, and maybe some reference for the devs if they continue to update the map in the future. Would love to see some more trees, bushes etc.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-08-2012, 13:08:59
I'll dig up some of my Crete photos and post here. Not sure how good they are to compare with FH2 though. I visited Chania, Souda Bay and the Maleme graveyard.
I have been there too. The Crate map is so scaled that the only similarity is the names and locations of the places.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 20-08-2012, 15:08:08
Hans Werner, GuinNess & IrishReloaded, thank you so much for these comparison shots, they are amazing! :)

Thank you Devs to have created a such amazing mod !!!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Damaso on 20-08-2012, 18:08:47
Ah fuck! FH2 is soo real than i cant distinge the ingame images from the real ones :D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-01-2013, 15:01:33
I thought I'd bump this for promotional purposes ;)

Also:

(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-A-Small/maps/USA-A-Small-I-2.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-01-2013, 15:01:46
looks like we need new spawnpoint on the beach to make assault easier  ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-01-2013, 15:01:52
"Plan for Assault at Point Du Hoe"

That's sure Paris Hilton's landing zone  :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-01-2013, 15:01:59
looks like we need new spawnpoint on the beach to make assault easier  ;)

Note that it says "Plan". They never ended up landing there.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: LuckyOne on 20-01-2013, 16:01:30
looks like we need new spawnpoint on the beach to make assault easier  ;)

Note that it says "Plan". They never ended up landing there.

Well they also caught the Germans off guard, and IIRC only suffered some 12 casualties... Does that also mean we need to make all Germans spawn unarmed and make them pick up the equipment before joining the fight?   ::)

Actually... that doesn't sound like a bad idea... maybe not for this map... But some historical surprise attack map where the defenders are actually "surprised" would be fun... Sort of like "survival" game mode...
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: ajappat on 20-01-2013, 23:01:06
I really like how on pointe du hoc in FH2, more US players die on one round, that there even was soldiers irl.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-01-2013, 04:01:15
I remember watching a documentary on pointe du hoc a while back. In it they were playing around with a replica mortar that they said the Rangers set up on the beach and was specialized to fire the grappling hooks onto the side of the cliffs. In the video they also said that many of these devices didn't work because the ropes were too heavy from the water and most of them fell short as a result.

2 questions: what were the other means by which the rangers climbed the cliffs? (Giant ladders? By hand?)

And how hard would it be to code a mortar that fired grappling hooks onto the cliff? (Grappling hook is technically a projectile in BF2 right?)/ is it even worth it? idk why but I always find it strange in FH2 when I see cy young hurl a grappling hook 100 feet in the air onto the cliff. It makes total sense and is easy for gameplay purposes but I always liked the authenticity of this map.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: VonMudra on 22-01-2013, 04:01:55
Enough grappling hooks worked that they were able to climb up :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 22-01-2013, 04:01:35
Haaaa I loved the Cy Young reference, although you just ruined the immersion on the map for me...

"Hrumph!" *Toss Rope*
"STRIKE THREEYAHHH!"

I think they're hand thrown for simplicity of implementation and for reusability. It's easy to collect the rope and throw again if it doesn't land flush.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-01-2013, 04:01:50
I think they're hand thrown for simplicity of implementation and for reusability. It's easy to collect the rope and throw again if it doesn't land flush.

Yea I guess gameplay wise it makes too much sense to change it
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Berkolok on 30-03-2013, 13:03:25
this post should never lost  more people should see this up up up
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-11-2013, 06:11:23
Not ashamed to bump this great thread but sorry for anyone who got their hopes up of seeing more maps compared.

Just thought I'd show off some stuff I did last night using the images from this thread.

I got the idea from these amazing photos that I'm sure most of you have seen:
http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/blending-scenes-from-wwii-into-present-day/ (http://twistedsifter.com/2012/05/blending-scenes-from-wwii-into-present-day/)

I can't possibly match the composition and power of those images with these but I think it's a cool way of showing off Forgotten Hope's attention to history. It's amazing how little work I had to do to match these images up. :D

Just photoshopping in the real thing with the gameplay images really shows off the similarities of the images

all WIP btw:
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o515/Matt_Baker1942/FH2%20Skins/PHL_Test_zps27493962.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o515/Matt_Baker1942/FH2%20Skins/PEB_Test_zpsc16e19f1.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o515/Matt_Baker1942/FH2%20Skins/FP_Test1_zps6dc1be0b.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o515/Matt_Baker1942/FH2%20Skins/PHL_Test2_zps02defeff.jpg)

This one's my favorite one. The fact that it matches up so well combined with an amazing photograph from life magazine:
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o515/Matt_Baker1942/FH2%20Skins/FOT_Test_zpsa50209fa.jpg)

The black and white contrast also makes it amazing. I might change the other ones to black and white too.

Seriously devs amazing job.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Oberst on 11-11-2013, 08:11:14
You also did an amazing job. At first i didn't even recognized the photoshoped parts. Although the pics seemd somehow weird to me, I couldn't tell at first, what was the difference. Awesome job.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-11-2013, 11:11:46
The one from Tobruk is AMAZING! If you could make more of these it would be awesome. But instead of placing only part of a real photo on an ingame shot (it works well for that LIFE magazine photo but not so well on other screenshot), use half of a photo or something so it will be better to compare real place to its ingame counterpart. At the moment it's even difficult to distinguish them.

I think that it would be a great promotion to create whole gallery of these pics on the FH2 facebook fanpage which has more than 3 thousand fans ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-11-2013, 17:11:35
I think that it would be a great promotion to create whole gallery of these pics on the FH2 facebook fanpage which has more than 3 thousand fans ;)

I was thinking the same thing, this could be a great way to promote FH. Ik one of the biggest draws for me is how historically accurate this mod is. Showing RL photos within the video game really brings it home.

I'd need some better ingame screens without the hud (might take some of those myself later on) 
I also might try to get the larger formats of the RL images instead of pulling them straight from the forums like I did :P they're too compressed right now for any sort of promotional thing.

Also I'd have to find a way to show the contrast between the two images better. The tobruk one really shows it off and has a good distinction between RL (black and white) and ingame, but I think I have some ideas.

@devs (or anyone who knows) is there a command I can type in the console to fly freely around the map and take screenshots? something like a 'renderer.drawhud 0' type of command that give me like a spectator mode?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-11-2013, 17:11:09
Spawn in, suicide, deselect spawnpoint, press spacebar
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Korsakov829 on 11-11-2013, 18:11:30
Or you could make and then watch a BR file and have the advantage of being able to pause at will.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-11-2013, 19:11:31
Or you could make and then watch a BR file and have the advantage of being able to pause at will.
It's only good for battlescenes, when it comes to map screenshots "spectator mode" is good enough. For promotional purposes it would be really hard to find good looking ingame combat footage.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 22-11-2013, 00:11:53
Really great job Matthew_Baker, BTW I went to Anctoville last week end to do the last map missing into this thread that I can compare on battlefield  ;D I will post pics soon !!!

BTW I can send you higher resolution size of reals pics if needed, the one in this thread has been reduced for a faster loading.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 23-11-2013, 15:11:47

As promise, here we go for Anctoville Real Life vs Ingame :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/783299Anctoville.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/340068DSCN4532.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/513681DSCN4521.jpg)


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/652291DSCN4516.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/602425forgottenhope22013112314385340.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/982480DSCN4517.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/336365forgottenhope22013112314394096.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/569702DSCN4518.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/158071forgottenhope22013112314402061.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/752533DSCN4519.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/251368forgottenhope22013112314405893.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/412700DSCN4522.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/460018forgottenhope22013112314413643.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/177771DSCN4523.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/905790forgottenhope22013112314415495.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/448109DSCN4524.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/925172forgottenhope22013112314421250.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/714751DSCN4525.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/442499forgottenhope22013112314423691.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/398684DSCN4526.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/475493forgottenhope22013112314430584.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/172957DSCN4527.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/677706forgottenhope22013112314433390.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/350638DSCN4528.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/845069forgottenhope22013112314441282.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/664247DSCN4529.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/777083forgottenhope22013112314442942.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/998952DSCN4530.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/744367forgottenhope22013112314451503.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/715683DSCN4531.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/293178forgottenhope22013112314460224.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/537430DSCN4536.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/491834forgottenhope22013112314471968.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/446946DSCN4537.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/143051forgottenhope22013112314474819.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/536691DSCN4538.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/681572forgottenhope22013112314481154.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/176090DSCN4540.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/330828forgottenhope22013112314484965.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/898704DSCN4541.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/657362forgottenhope22013112314491015.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/257998DSCN4542.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/504123forgottenhope22013112314500689.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/197471DSCN4544.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/612794forgottenhope22013112314502903.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/528560DSCN4545.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/596201forgottenhope22013112314505000.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/608442DSCN4546.jpg)(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/326787forgottenhope22013112314512346.jpg)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-11-2013, 15:11:37
Scarily similar.  8)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Surfbird on 23-11-2013, 15:11:50
Very nice work Hans ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 23-11-2013, 18:11:18
Wow :o Anctoville was honestly one of the maps I thought was more or less fictional (in terms of not being based off a real map)

Was that church rebuilt? or is that the original church from the '40s?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-11-2013, 18:11:22
Dunno, but Anctoville uses a generic FH2 Normandy church static. BTW, you people like this kind of comparison thing, right? Cause I'm thinking about doing it for one of the upcoming maps, as an advertisement thing.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 23-11-2013, 18:11:29
Nice series of pictures. Audi will be pleased too ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 23-11-2013, 18:11:32
Dunno, but Anctoville uses a generic FH2 Normandy church static. BTW, you people like this kind of comparison thing, right? Cause I'm thinking about doing it for one of the upcoming maps, as an advertisement thing.

Of course! :D this thread should be stickied imo. using it for advertisement is a perfect idea. Shows off the attention to detail and what FH2 is all about.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-11-2013, 18:11:06
Dunno, but Anctoville uses a generic FH2 Normandy church static. BTW, you people like this kind of comparison thing, right? Cause I'm thinking about doing it for one of the upcoming maps, as an advertisement thing.

:D that would be great!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 23-11-2013, 18:11:51
Nice series of pictures. Audi will be pleased too ;D

This my last Toys : Audi A1 ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Harmonikater on 23-11-2013, 21:11:40
It's a nifty little car as long as you don't have to sit in the back or want to transport stuff.
My trombone case just barely fits in the trunk, with about 2 mm to spare, and then it's already full!

And fantastic job on the pictures!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Norman Rockwell on 24-11-2013, 00:11:40
Awesome!  :D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: JMLigthart on 11-12-2013, 17:12:55
nice threat. very interesting stuff :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 11-12-2013, 20:12:24
Cirflexx, do you happen to be German? ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: JMLigthart on 11-12-2013, 20:12:07
No, Im not. I'm Dutch, why?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 11-12-2013, 20:12:54
Because Germans love to write "threat" instead of "thread".
I am German myself, so feel free to call me a Grammar Nazi. Plus, I do shittons of errors myself when writing in English. ^^
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: JMLigthart on 11-12-2013, 20:12:26
haha, well I hope to improve my English, so thanks for this correction :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 11-06-2014, 23:06:58
I'm back with a new real life map recon, this time it's Gold Beach !
I hope you will enjoy it :) 

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/806786Sanstitre.png)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/315882A1.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/740092A1G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/637667A2.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/485717A2G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/603819A3.jpg)
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(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/737935A5.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/946952A4G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/341952A6.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/772629A6G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/390434A7.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/793130A7G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/308600A8.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/228408A8G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/984251A9.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/906268A9G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/518561A10.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/713430A10G.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/980054A11.jpg)
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(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/690540A12.jpg)
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(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/560430A13.jpg)
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(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/692987A26.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/752583A26G.jpg)

Bonus, an US WW2 steel plate used as a small bridge into Gold beach aera field :
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/987802ABonus1.jpg)
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/297229ABonus2.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 11-06-2014, 23:06:41
YESSSS!

Thank you so much Hans! This is the best thread in the entire forum. I see you were in Normandy this past weekend :)

Bonus, an US WW2 steel plate use as a small bridge into a Gold beach aera field :

TS, you know what to do...
(Ignoring the fact that it could have been placed there any time in the past 70 years.)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-06-2014, 23:06:22
I'm gonna set this to sticky, should have been done a while ago....
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 11-06-2014, 23:06:46
I see you were in Normandy this past

Oh yes I went 5 days in Normandy for 70th D-Day Anniversary and it was SO GOOOOOOOOODDD !!!  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: RAnDOOm on 11-06-2014, 23:06:28
Fantastic post Hans Werner.

Thank you for having the time to take and post these pictures   ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-06-2014, 23:06:05
These FH2 devs know their stuff, don't they? Great work!

Also, very nicely displayed Hans Werner!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: 69rat on 12-06-2014, 00:06:30
very impressive! i love it!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 12-06-2014, 03:06:26
I see you were in Normandy this past

Oh yes I went 5 days in Normandy for 70th D-Day Anniversary and it was SO GOOOOOOOOODDD !!!  ;D

Very jealous my friend. I was there for the 68th (2012). It was incredible to meet so many vets and see the entire countryside take the anniversary to heart.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-06-2014, 05:06:15

Bonus, an US WW2 steel plate use as a small bridge into a Gold beach aera field :

TS, you know what to do...
(Ignoring the fact that it could have been placed there any time in the past 70 years.)

It is a real pain to get the vehicle out of those streams, and it gets damaged very easily. Some of those around the map crossing the streams would be great!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-06-2014, 08:06:53
See, this is why each FH2 map takes years to build! :P

Brilliant work!

... I don't want to even imagine how many hours of struggling with the BF2 editor it took to get this thing to look so real!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: DesertFox20591 on 10-10-2014, 18:10:20
that's legendary how a relatively small team of developers could do all this which also added to the countless hours,days,weeks on modding   
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-10-2014, 17:10:15
Any new pics..........
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-10-2014, 17:10:55
Unless Hans Werner goes on holiday again, no... that being said, I think all accurate Normandy maps have been covered by him and I doubt he will travel to North Africa to make pics (not that there would be much to see). We have a bunch of pictures from our tour in the Ardennes, but these won't be released as they show the faces of several devs and testers.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Wulfburk on 14-10-2014, 19:10:09
^ Edit the faces out?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 19-10-2014, 20:10:12
I don't think this map will ever look quite the same to me after this thread  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 11-11-2014, 21:11:54
Unless Hans Werner goes on holiday again, no... that being said, I think all accurate Normandy maps have been covered by him and I doubt he will travel to North Africa to make pics (not that there would be much to see). We have a bunch of pictures from our tour in the Ardennes, but these won't be released as they show the faces of several devs and testers.

Indeed all historical accurate maps has been done for Normandy (the ones left are just fictional in term of terrain so there is nothing to compare), and sadly I haven't yet in my plan to go in Egypt, Lybia or Tunisia :/ But I have took many pics of many famous Normandy battlefield so maybe if these maps came out one day in FH2 I will be able to do new comparaison  ;D

BTW I'm pasting here also the ones made for Omaha to keep all comparaison in the same thread :

(http://i.imgur.com/pDDiQRll.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ckCmZrGl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zt0IUxyl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/1C7f49sl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/BXx1QvAl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/U50mT3nl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/X2agj3Il.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/W6VmXOFl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/64lXkHml.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/9crnADOl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/1tQBlpel.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/MjAhR3kl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/VaUUY62l.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/JKVAYEDl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/YcQP2r2l.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sMGmHr7l.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/oZmGGOWl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/KamCUFSl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Jjjx28Rl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4VBgfXol.png)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: DannyNickelov on 22-11-2014, 01:11:32
Such awesome comparisons, i made one myself too.

left is FH2 and the right is Real Life.

(http://i.imgur.com/LlbZgrQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5KoJxuc.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Sgt.Collins on 30-11-2014, 20:11:02
Hello Everyone!

I go often in Normandy because I live not very far from there and I love thoses places of memory.

Last time my friend and I went to Port en Bessin, and we were looking for similarities between FH2's version and reality.

And I got to say, a very good job has been done, but there are eventually some differences and kind of historical mistakes or ommisses because of BF2 engine or 3Ds creations...

Let's begin and you'll find out what I'm talking about.

1st: Trenches on Eastern Hill fortifications
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074545157641.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081503490058.jpg

2nd: MG Nests on Eastern Hill
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074631283480.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074544138838.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074602778905.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081502982738.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/14113008164344612.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081343473101.jpg

3rd: Possible Mortar Position with linking trenches
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074639122682.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081511275006.jpg

4th: Cpt Cousins Bunker
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074809381853.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/14113008141141695.jpg

5th: Access trenches from city to Cpt Cousins bunker
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074732268865.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081646925502.jpg

6th: Possible Canon position
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/14113007480640930.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081635496267.jpg

7th: Rue du Phare's Bunker
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074611711498.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074709459795.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081328662205.jpg
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081412141805.jpg

8th: Rue du Phare's fortications
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074803965627.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081423303322.jpg

9th: Western Seashore
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074801344589.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081531376815.jpg

10th: View from below Rue du Phare's bunker towards the heart of the harbour
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074708199089.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081624130594.jpg

11th: Flakships
INGAME
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130074629871280.jpg
REALITY
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130081547140301.jpg
...joking

To explain the situation in 1944 there is a map on the actual Rue du Phare's Bunker.
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130082355601983.jpg
Key locations and fortifications were:
-the Eastern bunker taken by Cpt.Cousins and his men during the night
-The Western Bunker taken after many casualties
-Flakships which came back to port right before the landings and slaugthered the commandos climbing the Western hill.

To conclude,
I would have loved that the elevation in FH2 would have been more accurate (not enough steep IMAO),
to have a deeper depth of view, to have more accurate fortications according to the real place (including flakships, would be amazing).

Anyway, this map is already vvery nicely done, just wanted to point some importants componments that have been important during the real battle.

Some gifts:
Memorial Plaque in front of Cpt.Cousins bunker
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130082347300566.jpg

And a nice view
http://www.casimages.com/i/141130082343115844.jpg
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Tiny on 08-12-2014, 15:12:42
I just looked at the real pictures, didn't need to look at the ingame ones to understand which image represented what. I think that is pretty telling. In a very good way. Thank you dev's for a great mod.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-12-2014, 21:12:43
I dont know how you do this Hans Werner,every your pic is directly acurate with FH2,like you play FH2 on laptop while taking pic around MAP ;D ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 10-12-2014, 15:12:59
I dont know how you do this Hans Werner,every your pic is directly acurate with FH2,like you play FH2 on laptop while taking pic around MAP ;D ;D

Well I have to admit that I'm learning perfectly the map before to go on the field like that I can recognize most of place when I'm taking picture on the field  ;) And you can't imagine how it's a really great feeling to discover a real place that seems to be familiar to you because you played in it virtually before !
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-12-2014, 23:12:02
I know that, but some little walls or some house that doesnt have important role ingame and you find them!! Really nice job Werner :-X :o
And i wish i can feel the same ..
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-01-2015, 04:01:37
TS posted earlier about Keren but I just wanted to share the awesomeness of how well the other side of the train station matches up with FH2s model: 8)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Battle%20of%20Keren/keren13.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kOA2dkW.jpg)

from this video I stumbled across today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaP1jAZlFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaP1jAZlFA)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Oberst on 18-01-2015, 15:01:06
The Keren Train Station, one of my favorite statics ingame. Why?

1. Because it looks awesome and very close to the original.
2. Awesome layout, cool place to fight in and around.
3. Most important: It is one of the best examples for the love and dedication of the modellers and modding team, because they made such an awesome and unique static, just for ONE map!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 01-02-2015, 02:02:01
(http://i.imgur.com/fS6anAr.jpg)

Set of Saving Private Ryan? or Photoshoped in-game pic from FH2? 8)

Even the fictional maps get the utmost historical treatment. So epic
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Roughbeak on 01-02-2015, 15:02:41
Yes, I think Toddel made this beauty. :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 02-02-2015, 05:02:53
(http://i.imgur.com/fS6anAr.jpg)

Set of Saving Private Ryan? or Photoshoped in-game pic from FH2? 8)

Even the fictional maps get the utmost historical treatment. So epic


where is the petrol bomb ?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Slayer on 02-02-2015, 20:02:22
where is the petrol bomb ?
In the sock.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-04-2015, 20:04:43
We just received a very interesting E-Mail with a nice pic for comparison:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Mersa%20Matruh/matruh_01.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/J5HdbVD.jpg)

This picture is of one Lyle Brown. He was in the Australian Infantry Forces, 2/2nd Machine Gun Battalion and his grandson is a fan of Forgotten Hope 2, it seems.  ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Slayer on 08-04-2015, 21:04:25
How cool! Unfortunately we are missing those bushes in the map ;)

It would be lovely to get more of these personal pics, so if you read this and your grandfather has some, mail them please! You're makng this historian/FH2 fan very happy with it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-04-2015, 21:04:05
Yeah, that is very awesome!

Thanks for sharing! :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 09-02-2016, 20:02:33
How historically accurate FH2 is, we all already know devs made a f*** awesome job !!!
Here are again proofs with Pegasus  8)


ENJOY my last Reality vs FH2 comparison !!!  ;D


(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/286542W1A.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=286542W1A.jpg)
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Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Slayer on 09-02-2016, 20:02:51
Wow, fantastic comparison pics once again, Hans!

It's now required that you move house to Eastern Europe, to continue your job ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 10-02-2016, 10:02:25
Well Russia is a bit to cold for me  ;D
I have resized the pics in 800x600 to be easiest to compare.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Stubbfan on 10-02-2016, 10:02:25
Great stuff! Love these comparisons.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Nissi on 10-02-2016, 12:02:28
Oh and just to clarify: the pictures of the pegasus bridge are somewhat misleading. I think they ones posted are from the new bridge which replaced the old one. The old one was moved to another site as a memorial, however capacity was too low.

I love it to finally see my babies in the game.  :D

--
edit: and I love to see that this thread was updated! thank you for your work on that.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 10-02-2016, 13:02:14
Indeed the bridge has been changed in 1994, the original one is now in the Pegasus Memorial Museum located few meters to the original site. Also the new bridge has been built to respect as much as possible the old design to keep the same visual rendering.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: AfterDune on 10-02-2016, 13:02:26
More great pictures, thanks for sharing :).
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Roughbeak on 10-02-2016, 15:02:53
Great comparison, once again! Love it.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Sgt-ToTheHoly [NL] on 10-02-2016, 15:02:31
damn looks so nice you guys did a good job on making the maps
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: PoliticalCorrectness on 11-02-2016, 22:02:01
This thread is epic....I really wonder how you can create those maps so close to reality...unbelievable!  :o
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 12-02-2016, 01:02:53
Hans! I Love the update man! Another incredible post!!!

I've said (well at least thought) it many, many times... This is my favorite damn thread on the forums.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 12-02-2016, 10:02:41
I'm happy you enjoyed it  ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 12-02-2016, 16:02:05
Fantastic, herr Werner
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hawk2k9 on 12-02-2016, 17:02:16
Shoutout to HansWerner by SnakenBake in his latest FH2 livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrxOyLtYSg
(in the beginning of the stream)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Hans Werner on 12-02-2016, 18:02:51
Nice that's cool !  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 12-02-2016, 20:02:14
Interesting comparison pics. Always amazing how much work and detail goes into this  8)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Berkolok on 18-02-2016, 00:02:02
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/irootoko_jr/imgs/1/c/1c961f1d-s.jpg)
(https://i.hizliresim.com/vn0zAz.jpg)
bridge looks shorter through
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Yronno on 18-02-2016, 01:02:16
The in-game length does look a bit off, but a detail like that is just water under the bridge. I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: McCloskey on 18-02-2016, 02:02:10
Holy shit thanks for ruining the map for me, Berkolok
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: LuckyOne on 18-02-2016, 08:02:09
I'm sure the added length was just added for more drama. The devs wanted to make it feel like an endless bridge to convey the feelings of the brave souls that crossed it under fire. :P
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: ajappat on 18-02-2016, 09:02:37
I must ask about El Alamein. I know it's not 1:1 in any way, but are the terrain features atleast close to what they were? I never found any actual photos of kidney ridge or miterniya ridge. Actually I found some claim that kindney ridge would actually be depression.  ??? Are there any aerial photos or other good photos of those places?
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Berkolok on 18-02-2016, 11:02:29
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/2_Battle_of_El_Alamein_001.png)
(https://i.hizliresim.com/yLymk7.jpg)
(https://i.hizliresim.com/orL217.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Berkolok on 18-02-2016, 11:02:44
cant kidney through but must be somewhere around i marked
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-02-2016, 11:02:05
The old desert maps are almost all very scaled, with largely exaggerated terrain features. Otherwise they would all look like Alam Halfa, but even more flat.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Kalkalash on 18-02-2016, 14:02:37
The Kidney problem actually made me delve a bit deeper into this.

According to wikipedia, "...was Tel el Aqqaqir, the base of the Axis defence roughly 3 mi (4.8 km) northwest of the Kidney feature and situated on the Rahman lateral track." and "Kidney feature (also known to the Germans and Italians as Hill 28), often wrongly called a ridge".

So if, we look at this map (http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/alameinbattle8.jpg) and compare it with Google maps, we get this:
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Niko2-0/Randomness/rahman_zpsuclycy4m.jpg~original)

Since the Kidney ridge is apparently more of a hill rather than a ridge, finding it is pretty much impossible in Google satellite view, and I'm guessing the Egyptians don't have any publicly available topographic maps of the area.
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Alubat on 28-02-2016, 17:02:32
(http://www.preussische-ostbahn.de/003/i/seelow/2009.10.25-%283920%29-seelow-eg.jpg)

(http://i.picpar.com/yhJb.jpg)

(https://seelow89.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/cover-2-fileminimizer.jpg)

(http://i.picpar.com/0hJb.jpg)

(https://worldwar2revisited.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/dsc_3617edit.jpeg)

(http://i.picpar.com/2hJb.jpg)

Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: TASSER on 29-02-2016, 02:02:17
Very nice!!! I had been wondering what the view from the heights was really like!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-02-2016, 02:02:43
Cool Seelow pics 8) I never knew how close the FH1 version was. There was talk about modeling the actual old train station that was located there. It wasn't very high priority afaik
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Roughbeak on 29-02-2016, 04:02:47
We couldn't locate the exact train station to base the modeling on.

Unfortunately, we ended up using a generic one. :)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Sgt-ToTheHoly [NL] on 29-02-2016, 10:02:00
this looks so good i hope ever see some maps from holland like marget garden and some more
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-02-2016, 12:02:25
 8)
Very nice!
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Berkolok on 29-02-2016, 14:02:39
whoa..kudos to devs
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Alubat on 01-03-2016, 00:03:10
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/d8/15/3c/udolie-smrti.jpg)

(http://i.picpar.com/NpJb.jpg)

(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1530114.jpg)

(http://i.picpar.com/OpJb.jpg)

Found some more pics  ;)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-03-2016, 21:03:48
Yes, the map is based on the actual area, but a bit scaled down (not that you would notice normally).
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Dancho on 03-05-2016, 21:05:56
By the way, who does the FH2 railways? I mean the stations, the trains and the other stuff. Like a train geek I can say they look pretty damn good. I would also like to see some carriages on Operation Totalize or other maps. Then my choo-choo journey across the map will be awesome. :D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Oberst on 23-05-2016, 14:05:33
By the way, who does the FH2 railways? I mean the stations, the trains and the other stuff. Like a train geek I can say they look pretty damn good. I would also like to see some carriages on Operation Totalize or other maps. Then my choo-choo journey across the map will be awesome. :D

Plaese note, that FH2 is actually a WW2 themed church simulator. Trains are only there as a coincidence  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Dancho on 24-05-2016, 00:05:07

Plaese note, that FH2 is actually a WW2 themed church simulator. Trains are only there as a coincidence  ;D

Well, I might make this as a signature. :D
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-10-2016, 08:10:20
Some thoughts and background on Ramelle (+ gameplay)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObTdO4NHdyg
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-10-2016, 19:10:23
I made a video on the historical background of Seelow Heights, as well as the Volkssturm weapons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb2aMx3--Co
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-04-2018, 23:04:47
It surprised me to find that even a map as scaled down as Siege of Tobruk has some very historical features.

At least the first line of defenses refers to the 'Red Line' of defenses in the perimeter around Tobruk.
(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/CSI/CSI-Tobruk/miller.asp_files/11a.JPG)

Quote
The 150 individual strongpoints along the perimeter had been placed in a zigzag pattern, with the posts one forward and one in the rear, with intervals of about 750 yards between forward posts. The effect was of two parallel rows of posts, the second row 500 yards behind the first and filling in the gaps between the forward posts. The posts were numbered consecutively, the odd-numbered posts being on the perimeter, the even posts behind them. A typical post was eighty meters long and contained three circular concrete weapons pits emplaced flush with the ground and connected by a concrete communications trench.11 This trench was about 2 1/2 meters deep and covered over with boards and a thin layer of earth. Around the post was an antitank ditch. Observation from the posts was excellent, the fields of fire good, and the perimeter wire well placed. A forward post, in most cases, could enfilade both arms of perimeter wire leading out from it, the fire forming a beaten zone forward of the next post (see figure 1).

(http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/CSI/CSI-Tobruk/miller.asp_files/10a.JPG)

Incredibly, you can still see the red line defenses on Google Earth (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tobruk,+Libya/@31.9496994,23.9767586,1068m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x147e0336a4b1eb79:0xb21ad81feffb0333!8m2!3d32.0681759!4d23.941751)

Info here (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/CSI/CSI-Tobruk/miller.asp.html)
Title: Re: FH2 Historical Accuracy : Ingame VS Real life Pictures
Post by: Thesalamanderman on 25-07-2018, 21:07:46
This is impressive, thanks for the hard work!