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Title: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 06-08-2009, 15:08:32
Hello and welcome back to another update of Forgotten Hope. Today we have 2 renders and a whole bunch of in-game screenshots on the menu, but before we move on to those, we would like to welcome another new developer. Winterhilf will be helping us out by developing the singleplayer mode for our maps. Welcome Winterhilf!

Read the rest of this update on our website (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english&id_news=293).


As noted on the website, here are all the screenshots:

Marder I and Panzer IV Ausf. H:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_1_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_1.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_2_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_2.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_3_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_3.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_4_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_4.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_5_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_5.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_1_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_1.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_2_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_2.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_3_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_3.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_4_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_4.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_5_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_5.jpg)

Panzer VI Ausf. B 'Tiger II':

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_1_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_1.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_2_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_2.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_3_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_3.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_4_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_4.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_5_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_5.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_6_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_6.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_7_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_7.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_8_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_8.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_9_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_9.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_10_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_10.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_11_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_11.jpg) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_12_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_12.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_13_sm.gif) (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_13.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Waw_Slayer on 06-08-2009, 15:08:00
FIRST!
And i just jizzed in mah panties!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: NTH on 06-08-2009, 15:08:10
Second and jizzed in WaW_Slayers panties too  ;D
God damn this update is beautiful.

Just look at this picture.
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_6.jpg)

 Can you see the smoke rising from behind the church, that's jaw dropping stuff, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hslan.GN_Angrybeaver on 06-08-2009, 15:08:25
omfg! epic!
coming home just to see a new update arrive is soooooooooo good  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: FatJoe on 06-08-2009, 15:08:32
Sweet, and a good deal more than that even! :D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: CBC on 06-08-2009, 15:08:56
that's what update suppose to mean,,,,,

hoo-ahhh!!!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: roekeloos[NL] on 06-08-2009, 15:08:11
this normandy patch going to rock so mutch '
this update make,s the waiting harder
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-08-2009, 15:08:30
Meh, it looks OK.



 ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Slayer on 06-08-2009, 15:08:19
Wow, this is a really sweet update, with several new vehicles and so many screenshots!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: [F|H]Deek_101 on 06-08-2009, 15:08:09
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brilliant update!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 06-08-2009, 15:08:18
Meh, it looks OK.



 ;)
WHat he said. =p

Hehe. Oh and the SP work will please a lot of people I bet. Thanks to Winterhilf! :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 06-08-2009, 16:08:12
I was stunned when I saw this.
Just look at the Stuka zu Fuss and the american soldier firing the bazooka... those two pictures did it for me.
It doesn't look close to the BF2 engine at all.

Edit:
Let me guess, the Tiger II is ported?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: von.small on 06-08-2009, 16:08:33
o..m ... f  .. f... g.

three magic beans for the devs! huzzah!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fenring on 06-08-2009, 16:08:33
I was stunned when I saw this.
Just look at the Stuka zu Fuss and the american soldier firing the bazooka... those two pictures did it for me.
It doesn't look close to the BF2 engine at all.

Edit:
Let me guess, the Tiger II is ported?

Yes but also normal mapped and up-polied for FH2 use by Toddel.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: [F|H] Duc on 06-08-2009, 16:08:45
WOW! Amazing update, I'm loving the ingame screenshots.  It makes me feel like a release is near  :D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kebert Xela on 06-08-2009, 16:08:41
HOLY SH*T!!!!
lovely!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 06-08-2009, 16:08:35
What a beautiful update! well worth the wait  ;)

Tres bein Devs!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Gl@mRock on 06-08-2009, 16:08:39
Wow!... Just wow!  

...and welcome to the machine, Winterhilf!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2009, 16:08:28
The achilles????YOU guys added the achilles???SWEEEEEET!

I remeber suggesting this vehicle when the forums where very up!
Agus!Fantastic job mate. Six Sixpacks of Hoegaarden Beer are awaiting you!
Fantastic Update, simply fantastic!



Edit=Found mah thread XD http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=341.0

edit again=Holy mother of a cambudjah.look at the quality of those screenshots!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-08-2009, 16:08:55
Hooray!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 06-08-2009, 16:08:49
I was stunned when I saw this.
Just look at the Stuka zu Fuss and the american soldier firing the bazooka... those two pictures did it for me.
It doesn't look close to the BF2 engine at all.

Edit:
Let me guess, the Tiger II is ported?

Yes but also normal mapped and up-polied for FH2 use by Toddel.
Ah of course:) It looks really good!
(I just recognized the model and skin from FH1)

no comments on the Tiger II yet (except mine)! and this is its first appearance in a FH2 news update right? unless I missed something crucial. quite the suprise!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-08-2009, 16:08:52
Tiger B is missing the Krupp's initial design turret ;)
Looks good tho.


And I love the Achilles. Funny coincidence btw, when I saw that news update I also got an e-mail telling that the store have sent me my 1:35 model Achilles I ordered some time ago :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-08-2009, 16:08:12
Oh my fucking god

However the Tiger II wasn't used in Normandy with this turret *runs*
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: LtnGeorge on 06-08-2009, 16:08:36
Man,

Hope my computer is going to run this one...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 06-08-2009, 16:08:47
Oh my fucking god, they took 2 of my screenshots!!! :O :O
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-08-2009, 16:08:57
which map will have the KT? Falaise Pocket?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 06-08-2009, 17:08:15
You read that already before in an other thread. ;)

btw, did I already said that two of screenshots are in? Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kelmola on 06-08-2009, 17:08:18
Fap-fap-fappity-fap-fap. :o
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Skooterkid on 06-08-2009, 17:08:34
which map will have the KT? Falaise Pocket?

Looks like Operation Goodwood to me
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-08-2009, 17:08:02
You might be right.

I think the true surprise is the Wirbelwind, considering that mobile AA was shunned by some devs not too long ago.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 06-08-2009, 17:08:34
Impressed with the vehicles , sure... What kills me is the distant steeple and the detail of the town... Can you say ideal sniper location? - Beautiful town plan... No longer a couple of repetitive houses on a plane...

Loving the bazooka shot and the Stuka-zu-Fuß pyrotechnics... Can't wait to see those babies in action
And AI, did Donutz say "be impressed with the AI?!" - Keep up the bot-support, WinterHilf. If this is anything like I've seen in FHSP, ther should be great quality and quantity i bot-support for 2.2 ;D

Nice to see Rad back in action too... Great job guys, everyone

Excellent update

EDIT: Flakpanzer....hmm... Now what kinda map would make good use of that baby*hint-hint* - Didn't even know planes were being used in maps as yet...

@ the KT - Wonder what other secret models are in FH2.2 which haven't been shown yet...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Priestdk on 06-08-2009, 17:08:28
Love is in the air dadada da !

Good to see another update :-)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Stonechater on 06-08-2009, 17:08:11
Thats some heavy shit  ;D

But ey, what map is it? =S
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: von.small on 06-08-2009, 17:08:52
Oh my fucking god, they took 2 of my screenshots!!! :O :O

the update, it's like a monster truck poured into your face!

which are your screens?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 06-08-2009, 17:08:03
This update has like everything i ever wanted except thunderbolt (most likely not gonna even see it :'().

Enivei, Beautiful :o.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 06-08-2009, 17:08:14
Loving the bazooka shot and the Stuka-zu-Fuß pyrotechnics... Can't wait to see those babies in action

Yeah, that are my favorite ones. ;)

But this update is really great for the community, just show up some patience and you get some very nice things to see. Hope you guys enjoy it, because it's awesome. :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 06-08-2009, 17:08:09
Oh my godness! Toys! We're on the the way to total devastation. Mowing infantry with Wirbelwinds, digging large areas with artillery and steamrolling everything with Kingtigers. Seems like future is here. *enlisting*
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: [CHN]Harrier on 06-08-2009, 17:08:16
Holy Sh*t!You are kidding me, right? I never expect an update at this time of a day, especially such an awesome one! You men are evils! Wahahahahah~~~~~~~
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Sir Apple on 06-08-2009, 17:08:19
Really nice work  :).

Great update.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2009, 17:08:07


@ the KT - Wonder what other secret models are in FH2.2 which haven't been shown yet...

Let me give you some hints

(http://scienceblogs.com/seed/upload/2007/03/lab_mouse.jpg)
(http://static.open.salon.com/files/rat1229487545.jpg)
Just kidding for those who figured out :p

Soo...I suppose the KT wont be able to survive a side shot with a 17pdr    now can it?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Brewchief on 06-08-2009, 17:08:18
Beautiful! Great Update!  :o

Thank you!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-08-2009, 17:08:50

Soo...I suppose the KT wont be able to survive a side shot with a 17pdr    now can it?
No chance.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-08-2009, 18:08:03
this update disappointed me.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hslan.totaler_humbug on 06-08-2009, 18:08:40
Yeah, it´s a real nice update. The Devs put content in, which would be enough for two updates.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: tanked on 06-08-2009, 18:08:40
Excellent update, release date would be even better.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 06-08-2009, 18:08:37
I was just informed that I am getting a gaming laptop for Christmas. This will be awesome with an excellent graphics card  ;D. Normandy is gonna be beautiful (but not a beautiful as the motherland  ;)).
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 06-08-2009, 18:08:14
this update disappointed me.

Well, I must confess it wasn't exactly what I was hoping for, but it certainly added something - At least 3 new vehicles, one clearly ingame - For me the real cooker is the town setting from ground perspective - And the Steeple

Can't complain though.... This is the way it is, hoping for a map, another vehicle or a release (especially) is ...well, eint our call, and a tad premature if you think about it - Nice wishing though
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 06-08-2009, 18:08:50
At least 3 new vehicles, one clearly ingame
I see 3 vehicles clearly ingame...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 06-08-2009, 18:08:24
The Kingtiger has screenshots... Didn't know the FlakPanzer or Canadian Mobile AT were ingame or not
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Knitschi on 06-08-2009, 18:08:04
definitely nice work!

Which map is that?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Twonkle on 06-08-2009, 18:08:30
Why does the Panzer have pastery (is it the right word) on top of the tank? and & the tower... Thought they only added it to AVOID anti tank mines, and last time i checked antitank mines doesn't fall from the air... or do they?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Venous on 06-08-2009, 18:08:42
Amazing work as usual... Tiger II looks fucking badass!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 06-08-2009, 18:08:17
To be honest I don't see pastery (Zimerit) neither on the P-IV nor on the Kingtiger. At least not on top. Only on the sides.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Terrorshaft on 06-08-2009, 18:08:34
Tanks... wonderful horribly annoying wondrous tanks! ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kubador on 06-08-2009, 18:08:41
Well that update was unexpected. Great work on the wirbelwind - infantry's worst nightmare.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Rataxes on 06-08-2009, 19:08:02
Awesome update, one of the best so far. That Stuka so fuss picture is pure ownage  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 06-08-2009, 19:08:52
You might be right.

I think the true surprise is the Wirbelwind, considering that mobile AA was shunned by some devs not too long ago.

I was really surprised by that as well!

One of the best updates so far (only one can top it ;)). This sure was a treat. Great job devs & testers :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 06-08-2009, 19:08:13
Well that update was unexpected. Great work on the wirbelwind - infantry's worst nightmare.
I wonder, lob a grenade into the top? should kill it off  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 06-08-2009, 19:08:31
Off topic question:
I have wondered this a long time, the Tiger tank is called Pz VI, while the panther is called Pz V, why is that? wasn't the tiger created before the panther?
Or perhaps I'm confusing the numbers...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: McFierce on 06-08-2009, 19:08:16
Why does the Panzer have pastery (is it the right word) on top of the tank? and & the tower... Thought they only added it to AVOID anti tank mines, and last time i checked antitank mines doesn't fall from the air... or do they?
I think it's called Shurtzen "Skirt" It's a extra metal layer separated from the turret/chassis0 hull to stop small anti-tank weapons such as the bazooka. Also, I was looking at this update and I couldn't help but wonder if the devs had modded the BF2 engine. This looks way better than vanilla BF2. Great job.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Slayer on 06-08-2009, 19:08:11
Off topic question:
I have wondered this a long time, the Tiger tank is called Pz VI, while the panther is called Pz V, why is that? wasn't the tiger created before the panther?
Or perhaps I'm confusing the numbers...

No, you aren't confusing the numbers. I searched for it when I saw your question, but for now I can't find an answer. My wild guess is that it is because of the tonnage, which was ever increasing with the numbers: Panzer II was heavier than Panzer I, Panzer III was heavier than Panzer II, etc. So in that logic, the numbers are correct as the Tiger was heavier.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2009, 19:08:00
Why does the Panzer have pastery (is it the right word) on top of the tank? and & the tower... Thought they only added it to AVOID anti tank mines, and last time i checked antitank mines doesn't fall from the air... or do they?
Well, they developed zimmerit because the germans THOUGHT the allies where gonna use LOADS and LOADS of Magnetic at mines and AT grenades. The germans developed an Magnetic Grenade, and they thought the allies would develop one aswel..



Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 06-08-2009, 19:08:52

 I think it's called Shurtzen "Skirt" It's a extra metal layer separated from the turret/chassis0 hull to stop small anti-tank weapons such as the bazooka. Also, I was looking at this update and I couldn't help but wonder if the devs had modded the BF2 engine. This looks way better than vanilla BF2. Great job.

 He's talking about the ribbed sheet on the armor. It's anti-magnetic called Zimmerit and was developed because of Soviet infantries tendency to throw magnetic mines on the hull of german tanks, although personally i dont see how it helped the Tiger I any seeing as how the main hull is a friggin box you just have to toss it ontop.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 06-08-2009, 19:08:10
Nobody used magnetic mines in large quantities except the germans. Question is: If the germans would not have applied Zimmerit, would the allies more likely might have developed magnic mines then? So, in some terms, it was a preventive measurement that saved the germans from getting beaten by their own equipment they might have left behind on their retreat.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: 508th PIR Hawkeye on 06-08-2009, 19:08:24
Well it was worth the two weeks!!!  ;D Excellent!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: corsair89 on 06-08-2009, 19:08:11
Wow, I didn't expect that at all, very amazing update, nice vehicles and the screenshots look beautiful...

I really can't wait now  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Sturmbocke on 06-08-2009, 20:08:28
How does the "Stuka zu Fuss" arty work? Like our static artillery? or is it just blind shooting?


I think it's called Shurtzen "Skirt" It's a extra metal layer separated from the turret/chassis0 hull to stop small anti-tank weapons such as the bazooka.
You are on right trail, it was made to make shaped charge ammunition to explode before the actual tank, and prevent penetrating the tank armor. Soviets used same idea when welding steel "cages" on their T-34s in Berlin.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2009, 20:08:19
How does the "Stuka zu Fuss" arty work? Like our static artillery? or is it just blind shooting?


who knows, they might have solved the Mobile arty spotting issue  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: azn_chopsticks_boi on 06-08-2009, 20:08:54
Very nice post! cant wait
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 06-08-2009, 20:08:29
Whenever Devs clog us with multiple new stuff in one update, the release is scheduled to be close. It is done to present all stuff in time. Guys, we must be close.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kev4000 on 06-08-2009, 20:08:44
Nobody used magnetic mines in large quantities except the germans. Question is: If the germans would not have applied Zimmerit, would the allies more likely might have developed magnic mines then? So, in some terms, it was a preventive measurement that saved the germans from getting beaten by their own equipment they might have left behind on their retreat.

Maybe the allies would've used magnetic mines in large quantities had the Germans not developed zimmerit. We'll never know.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 06-08-2009, 20:08:01
Whenever Devs clog us with multiple new stuff in one update, the release is scheduled to be close. It is done to present all stuff in time. Guys, we must be close.
I was thinking that myself, but we have been saying that for the past 6 months, so better not get our hopes up. We dont want to overfeed Lightning too soon anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Professor Anthrax on 06-08-2009, 20:08:55
Wow...all the detail in the town shots...awesome stuff!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hall0 on 06-08-2009, 20:08:48
KT is full of win.  ;D But as in FH1 i prefer the my good old P4H :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 06-08-2009, 21:08:27
I somehow doubt we'll see that KT on any maps, unless they make a new turret for it, considering its the wrong version.

That said,

AWESOME!!!!  I told you all that mobile AA would be ingame! I told you all!  HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 06-08-2009, 21:08:50
we have been asking for mobile AA for ages, it is no surprise to me that it finally made it in.
WRT King Tiger, who cares about the turret. If it matters so much, make the new turm yourself.

@ Devs,
 Nice update, welcome to Winterhilf but this hearty welcome begs a question from me. What happened to Bizness?

 Given such an expansive (and fast growing) history to this mod, is there any chance down the road to get a better feel for where these guys are now, or what they are doing that keeps then away from Fh?
Some of the Dev names are mixed together with the respective models, so much so, that it appears to me that some old devs abandoned work that is now finished by the new crew.


 Please tell me I am wrong and that these talented guys and gals never left the team.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-08-2009, 21:08:56
Well Rad left for health reasons, but he is still named on the Wirbelwind, probably for the Panzer IV chassis.

edit: the Achilles has no Teddy  :o
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kev4000 on 06-08-2009, 21:08:36
Well Rad left for health reasons, but he is still named on the Wirbelwind, probably for the Panzer IV chassis.

edit: the Achilles has no Teddy  :o

For the flak vierling model. Toddel made the Panzer IV H chassis from scratch afaik.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-08-2009, 21:08:21
And i just jizzed in mah panties!

You guys say I spam? You guys have pretty much 6 pages of this stuff (see above) already.

In response to this;

this update disappointed me.

Well, I must confess it wasn't exactly what I was hoping for, but it certainly added something - At least 3 new vehicles, one clearly ingame - For me the real cooker is the town setting from ground perspective - And the Steeple

Can't complain though.... This is the way it is, hoping for a map, another vehicle or a release (especially) is ...well, eint our call, and a tad premature if you think about it - Nice wishing though

Yes, true. Though What I really wasn't expecting was it to look so good from street level. It looks like it was made for a movie set or something.  I just hope they release more maps like the one shown (Neunen, as well, I hope!) so the guys at BlueCommunity can make some really kickass movies.

I'll have to talk to Ricky about a B.o.B.-esque movie...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ionizer on 06-08-2009, 21:08:12
Awesome. The Zook pic is particularly epic looking.  And I think our first glimpse of US models in game.

Anyway, lovely update.  The KT is especially unexpected, because we didn't get a preview render before seeing in game.  Thank you very much to all the Devs.  And welcome to the new Single Player Specialist, Winterhilf.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kev4000 on 06-08-2009, 22:08:00
Awesome. The Zook pic is particularly epic looking.  And I think our first glimpse of US models in game.

Anyway, lovely update.  The KT is especially unexpected, because we didn't get a preview render before seeing in game.  Thank you very much to all the Devs.  And welcome to the new Single Player Specialist, Winterhilf.

Generally we don't show renders of ported content. Same with the cromwell.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Alakazou on 06-08-2009, 22:08:30
OMG, after a hard day on the digsite with no artefacts found, you give me joyce.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 06-08-2009, 22:08:25
I somehow doubt we'll see that KT on any maps, unless they make a new turret for it, considering its the wrong version.

I doubt we'll get to see a Henschel turret. Only 50 produced.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-08-2009, 22:08:15
A what?

There was 2 types of turrets for the Tiger II. Krupp's initial design (used in normandy) and Krupp's production turret (as in FH's Tiger II).


Edit:
--there was two types of Tiger B chasis' designed, one by Porsche and one by Henschel. Krupp designed turrets for both of them. Henschel got the contract but some of the Krupp turrets for Porsche chasis were alredy made. They were installed on the Henschel chasis and served in Normandy.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 06-08-2009, 23:08:14
Fantastic update! The detail in the normal maps on the KT, PzIV and Marder look incredible.

Also great to see the Achilles in, was not expecting it. Huzzah!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 06-08-2009, 23:08:48
I'm going to try to use words to describe this stunner update.

That town is extremely impressive looking, can't believe how many houses you guys have made. All the tanks look amazing as well, and the King Tiger?!?! That really surprised me. Who made it anyway? I suspect it's the one from 1942?

And that church tower! Holy hell that looks awesome.

Really appreciate and enjoy seeing this after a hard day at work. Thank you guys.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 07-08-2009, 00:08:03
AAAAHHAHAHASDL;DFJAL;KJFJAIILS;DJFJALSI;EJFAIL;SEJFLI;ASJEO;FIASL;DFKL;ASAKLSDLKALS;AKLSLAKSJAINAVNBNNBASDFJL;ASJDFA;WE!!!

Okay now that I have picked my jaw off the floor, HOLY SHIT! This is an epic update!! Seriously this is torture waiting for 2.2... I got that fuzzy FH1 feeling all over again.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 00:08:30
I somehow doubt we'll see that KT on any maps, unless they make a new turret for it, considering its the wrong version.

I doubt we'll get to see a Henschel turret. Only 50 produced.

Firstly, its the Porsche turret, and secondally, while only 50 or so were produced, they were the only ones to see action in Normandy.  My guess would be that they're either just showing that they ported in the KT (much like the kubel and some other vehicles), that they're making a proper porsche turret for it, OR that it'll be a placeholder until they can get the right thing made.  Considering the massive variations of Sherman tank now ingame, I highly doubt that the devs would over look the rather important visual difference of the KT types.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 07-08-2009, 00:08:31
Or they didn't expect it to be analy nitpicked so soon, hoping we'd all just gloss over that and hope 2.2 came out in a hurry.. . But hey, just saying
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: GirlsHateMe on 07-08-2009, 00:08:16
Great update and I'm really loving the Wirbelwind, I also hope we get to see the Mobelwagen as well -

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6787/mobelwagen123.jpg)

 

 
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 07-08-2009, 00:08:30
lol, Möbelwagen....remember that from the old days when I used to build lots of 1/35 models.

But yeah, I agree wtih what Von Mudra said...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hslan.Corvax on 07-08-2009, 00:08:35
OMFG !

Noone wondering about that insanely awesome looking city map there ?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-08-2009, 00:08:18
Kev said the map is only for screenshots.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Dukat on 07-08-2009, 00:08:52
Uhh, yes, guys, you know what I meant. Of course the Porsche turret was first, I mixed it up.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hslan.Corvax on 07-08-2009, 00:08:56
Kev said the map is only for screenshots.

:(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 02:08:27
Or they didn't expect it to be analy nitpicked so soon, hoping we'd all just gloss over that and hope 2.2 came out in a hurry.. . But hey, just saying

Its the FH forum crowd...they already expect to be nitpicked.  And I somehow doubt that not having the KT would delay FH2.2, its not really a necessary vehicle, its more a cool thing to have eventually.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 07-08-2009, 02:08:27
Kev said the map is only for screenshots.

:(

Well, I sure hope towns in 2.2 look that good, otherwise it will be one hellofa waste... Thinking of Cherborg or Collogn as I say this *Licksd  lips*  That church and the distant plumes of smoke, those cobbled streets etc, etc are just too beautiful for a nothing-map

Hey, perhaps the devs should consider releasing all those test maps too @ some point - Sahara, this map,
?Overlord....

I keep having this fantasy about a huge City map with double laned streets (And not the miniature in seige of Karkand), such beautiful houses, cracks, sideroads etc... With a chutch just like the one in the screenshot all the way up the road.. I think I saw a pic like that somewhere... with Americna troops supported by tanks
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: General_Henry on 07-08-2009, 03:08:58
shit! My new computer had only an onboard display!!! I want to drive the PzIVH so badly!

 :'( no more FH2 for me
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kubador on 07-08-2009, 03:08:27
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1793/fhmeme.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 07-08-2009, 03:08:57
Is he angry because He's sitting on a chair lined with explosives?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Gunnie on 07-08-2009, 03:08:34
For those who asked about Bizness.  He is around, but very, very sporadically. Last time I spoke with him. He was having computer issues. Along with that, some money issues and was not going to be able to get a new computer for awhile. Therefore, he said he would be away until he got things fixed up.

This was several months ago and I have not spoken to him or seen him since. Not to say that he is not around, but only to say that he is not active.

WinterHilf has been a great addition to the mod team and will certainly enhance the SP/Co-op experience for FH2.

For those who wonder about the Achilles being in game.. It most certainly is in game, as is the Wirbelwind, but the Wirbelwind still needs some additional work.

As for the KT.. We know it is not the only turret for the KT, but it IS a correct turret for the KT. When there comes some extra time to create the proper turret.  I am sure we will fix it up proper.  Just be glad you have the tank to use. I spent alot of time getting that one in game. I suppose we could always remove it from the build until later? (However, I don't think that will be as much fun.)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 07-08-2009, 03:08:46
I suppose we could always remove it from the build until later? (However, I don't think that will be as much fun.)
I dare you!  ;D

Although, a vehicle is made for a map, so it would cause some 'balance issues' perhaps? some more time spent fixing a problem that shouldnt exist, eh?  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Torenico on 07-08-2009, 05:08:09
For the Love of God!!!!!! theres nothing more awesome than the King Tiger!!

When i saw the GI whit the Bazooka destroying something and the Marder, i tought something important is down there...

When i saw the KT, i imagined it was Photoshopped for some reason.. but when i looked closer.. IT was f*cking real!!!1


Ruhr Pocket here i come!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 07:08:15
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1793/fhmeme.jpg)


hahahahhahahaha

That's awesome Kubador. xD
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 07-08-2009, 07:08:24
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1793/fhmeme.jpg)


hahahahhahahaha

That's awesome Kubador. xD
lol unfortunately that kinda makes me look like a 10 year old interwebs pre-teen with an IQ average of 13 but yea it's funny anyway!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: sn00x on 07-08-2009, 08:08:37
Quote
Great update and I'm really loving the Wirbelwind, I also hope we get to see the Mobelwagen as well -
i doubt well see the möbelwagen, as this AA tank was made from damaged PZ4 and didnt have its own "production" though 300 where converted. It was just a tank to fill in the gap that the germans didnt have good AA tank before the wirbel and ost came. nice tank though, waiting for my 1/35 model to arrive. What i would like to see Sd.Kfz. 7, Sd.Kfz. 7/1 and Sd.Kfz. 7/2 (armoured and non-armoured version) i dont know any history about those but i Do Believe that atleast 7 and 7/1 had production numbers. the 7/2 looks a bit late-war-have-not-good-production. And bout the town, it looks very west german to me, kind like the rhine area.. anyways, Great update! if the release aint soon, im going suicidal
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Raziel on 07-08-2009, 09:08:36
 :o OMFG Droooools..............and falls off chair!
You're doing wonders with the BF2 engine guys! I kneel before you! Really worth the wait for FH2.2!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 07-08-2009, 10:08:48
Idea for static/atmospheric: Baby carriage - half covered with rubble and perhaps with bulletholes in it.

Would remind you of the people in the middle of all this, those who never got out in time.

(http://tykecoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/c3-300x228.jpg)

/edit: and would be another fitting place for Rad's teddy bear ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-08-2009, 11:08:02
actually

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9897/fh2newspostfffu.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: 508th PIR Hawkeye on 07-08-2009, 11:08:42
actually

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9897/fh2newspostfffu.jpg)

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 12:08:46
Meh, I never insulted it anyways.  I think its a fucking awesome update, and am stoked most about that lovely Wirbelwind :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: DLFReporter on 07-08-2009, 13:08:54
Idea for static/atmospheric: Baby carriage - half covered with rubble and perhaps with bulletholes in it.
Would remind you of the people in the middle of all this, those who never got out in time.

Would be a bit graphic imo.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 07-08-2009, 14:08:52
Idea for static/atmospheric: Baby carriage - half covered with rubble and perhaps with bulletholes in it.
Would remind you of the people in the middle of all this, those who never got out in time.

Would be a bit graphic imo.
Yeh, i think it would be a bit much, kinda fuck people up a little.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-08-2009, 14:08:03
even without a baby in it?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 07-08-2009, 14:08:15
I don't think he meant with baby, you buffoons.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-08-2009, 14:08:17
Like on fallout3.Their u have these baby carriages.When you trip on of the trip wires, a baby crying will come out of the carriage, but when you check it out, its actually a bomb so yeah..



Me so want this for FH2!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-08-2009, 14:08:30
*slaps some people with Taranov*

There are no Porsche or Henschel turrets, both of the turrets were of Krupp's design.
Porsche and Henschel designed the chasis' but only Henschel's was produced. Krupp had built 50 turrets for the Porche chasis, these are known as the initial design turrets and were installed to Henschel chasis. Krupp's turred for the Henschel chasis is known as the production turret.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 07-08-2009, 14:08:03
I don't think he meant with baby, you buffoons.
Even so... its still a bit much.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 07-08-2009, 15:08:58
I think it's a good idea.

It would at least make some people stop for a second and realise that war is not just a game.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 07-08-2009, 15:08:04
I think it's a good idea.

It would at least make some people stop for a second and realise that war is not just a game.
And then get killed, because they are playing a game  :P

But yeh I know what you mean, if it gets put in, I wont worry about it  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-08-2009, 15:08:29
Yeah I wouldnt mind seeing those. After all we already have a lot of civil items lying around which reminds you that theres always the third participant of the war in the middle of all of it.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 07-08-2009, 15:08:57
y the change of mind? Because lightning agrees?

And why a baby cot... That in itself is a bit macabre... We already have a bycicle, and pieces of furniture... Perhaps a doll is a bit more neutral but captures the tragedy... Maybe dead soldiers... We don't have dead soldiers yet... And ofcourse, don't forget the dead horse, turned carriage and cow...

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 07-08-2009, 16:08:57
To me that's crossing the line.

A game is all about having the tension, excitement out of a war without the bad things such ass getting killed or wounded. Then there are other things that can hurt you not just physically but mentaly. And this would be mentaly ill to me. So therefore, absoloutely No. No baby carriages.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 07-08-2009, 16:08:51
How about we have photo albums of every single civilian's family rendered in every single house in the city maps? Oh oh and we could have Lobo model some flaming nursing homes and destroyed orphanages!! NOW we are getting somewhere!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 07-08-2009, 16:08:04
To me that's crossing the line.

A game is all about having the tension, excitement out of a war without the bad things such ass getting killed or wounded. Then there are other things that can hurt you not just physically but mentaly. And this would be mentaly ill to me. So therefore, absoloutely No. No baby carriages.
My point exactly.
But, if it is put in, then we'll all just have to live with it I guess, and try and not get too distracted by it.

Speaking of dead bodies, on the PR map "Kozelsk" there is bodies lying around and other harrowing things lurking about, if you look closely enough. It does kind of distract you.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-08-2009, 16:08:28
y the change of mind? Because lightning agrees?

Point me to where I was against this idea.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Toddel on 07-08-2009, 17:08:06
actually

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9897/fh2newspostfffu.jpg)

IS HERE ANYTHING FUNNY? >:(


































 ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 07-08-2009, 17:08:30
Not u...

And it was in passing - Still a bit cranky, so guys... excuse my being critical... I guess the "Oooh, gee, this is the best update ever" is kind getting to me, cuz lets face it, not everyone sees it that profoundly...

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-08-2009, 17:08:56
Why are they always bitching about vMudra, I brought up the turret before him, but nobody gives me any credit.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 07-08-2009, 17:08:35
And no ones seems to like my screenshots. :'(

We are all joking of course, the KT is awesome and don't have to be changed, it would look ugly with the other turret.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-08-2009, 17:08:14
I always thought the other turret was nicer. As if a Tiger crossbreeded with a Panther.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moku on 07-08-2009, 17:08:48
Wow I like look of that map alot! Pity if its really just some test map...
 
Achilles looks nice and so does Wirbelwind. I'm quite surprised you actually made mobile AA. Ohh and KT looks even better in FH2. Aww can't wait to blow it up with bazooka and make the poor panzerjockey cry and throw insults at me. :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Rawhide on 07-08-2009, 18:08:27
Why are they always bitching about vMudra, I brought up the turret before him, but nobody gives me any credit.
I'm on your side, Ts4EVER

You smell good
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kelmola on 07-08-2009, 19:08:16
To me that's crossing the line.

A game is all about having the tension, excitement out of a war without the bad things such ass getting killed or wounded. Then there are other things that can hurt you not just physically but mentaly. And this would be mentaly ill to me. So therefore, absoloutely No. No baby carriages.
Sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded in FH2. Usually you are just crawling through a hellish artillery bombardment that rips your ears out and dims your vision, when out of nowhere a bullet hits you, and before your death you hear the distinctive sound of air and blood bubbling out of your lungs from the bullet hole, and then you have an OOBE showing your body contorting into an unnatural position. But sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded or anything nasty. And of course, adding even empty baby carts is "mentally ill". ::)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 07-08-2009, 19:08:07
good point... Personally, I think the devs can make maps as real life as possible (or PG13) and it might actually resonate as novelle... Its one of those things that require both threading lightly through new terrain, and yet breaking grounds... After all ppl play games like Resident Evil and blow heads and limbs off, it might not be too obsene to have a bit more carnage... nothing over-the-top, but something you can expect in WW2.. for instance, a clear sign of putrification in the dead cows, horses etc... the rest I leave to the devs
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-08-2009, 21:08:56
Greeat update!
Those in-game screens are just awesome, Normandy will definately rock!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 21:08:22
And no ones seems to like my screenshots. :'(

We are all joking of course, the KT is awesome and don't have to be changed, it would look ugly with the other turret.

Why doesn't it?  Its the wrong turret, and the devs do know for sure that its the porsche type turret that was used in Normandy, and only the porsche type turret.  This was brought up in countless "Whar is King Tiger me want" suggestions. :P

Also, yes, its the turret designed for the henschel versus designed for the porsche.  But you know what?  No one cares.



(Except Taranov)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-08-2009, 21:08:40
Oh, I say, we are grand, aren't we? Oh, oh, no more buttered scones for me, mater. I'm off to play the grand piano.


You bitch about most absurd historical inaccuracies and when I point out a clear naming error you say no one cares? Well I care. And I know others care too.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Gl@mRock on 07-08-2009, 21:08:49
And no ones seems to like my screenshots. :'(

We are all joking of course, the KT is awesome and don't have to be changed, it would look ugly with the other turret.

Why doesn't it?  Its the wrong turret, and the devs do know for sure that its the porsche type turret that was used in Normandy, and only the porsche type turret.  This was brought up in countless "Whar is King Tiger me want" suggestions. :P

Also, yes, its the turret designed for the henschel versus designed for the porsche.  But you know what?  No one cares.



(Except Taranov)


I'm not an expert (therefore I don't really care  :P)
but I would like to know since there's some, what are the differences between the two turrets?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-08-2009, 21:08:02
Krupp's initial design ("porsche") is more round. Production turret ("henschel") is the one you see in the screenshots.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 21:08:28
Oh, I say, we are grand, aren't we? Oh, oh, no more buttered scones for me, mater. I'm off to play the grand piano.


You bitch about most absurd historical inaccuracies and when I point out a clear naming error you say no one cares? Well I care. And I know others care too.


Ok, because the coliquial naming is so important, from now on the ISU and SU varients in service in Russia are no longer assualt guns, but mobile artillery, as Taranov says.  The MP-40 cannot be refered to as a "schmeiser" There is no such thing as a King Tiger, because no german operating texts refer to it as such.  Shall we continue?  How about Tan/Water camo not existing, because it is REALLY called Marsh camo?

There is a huge difference between a visually obvious and innacurrate turret, and an "error" in naming that became popularized to the point at which everyone uses it.  

And also, to note this, isn't it completely correct to refer to the Porsche turret and Henschel Turret as such, as the initial turret was designed to use on the Porsche tank, and the production turret was designed to be used on the Henschel tank?  Duly making them Porsche and Henschel turrets?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-08-2009, 21:08:00

The MP-40 cannot be refered to as a "schmeiser" There is no such thing as a King Tiger, because no german operating texts refer to it as such.  Shall we continue?

Well, MP-40 is not refered as a "schmeiser" nor the Panzer VI B as a "King Tiger". All fine on that front.

I pay and rise with a Jagdpanzer 38(t).

Since FH2 got the viuials right, why not get the names right also? And btw, in popular culture all german tanks are grey (not even "panzergrau"). Would that be ok too?


Edit: I would accept "Krupp's turret for Porsche chasis" and "Krupp's turret for Henschel chasis" :p
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Gl@mRock on 07-08-2009, 21:08:52
Krupp's initial design ("porsche") is more round. Production turret ("henschel") is the one you see in the screenshots.

Thanks for the infos, I did a bit of research  ::) and found pics showing both models.

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger2.htm
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 21:08:56
Once again, you're confusing huge visual and historical inaccuracies with colloquialistic expressions.  The MP-40 is commonly called the Schmeiser in several historical texts, and the Panzer VI B is def a King Tiger, Royal Tiger, or Konigstiger.

And yes, damnit, its called a Hetzer.

Its like saying that a bridge isn't named by what people call it, but by whatever the engineers used for it.

BC-235f versus "Lollypop Bridge".
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Jürgen on 07-08-2009, 22:08:51
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1633/carrofjh.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-08-2009, 22:08:22
Carro Armato!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 22:08:13
What a cute Italian APC :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Jürgen on 07-08-2009, 22:08:48
OMG, WUT IS INSIDE?!?!?!?
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3370/carro2p.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 07-08-2009, 22:08:46
Its an italian APC armed with a pistol!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Mspfc Doc DuFresne on 07-08-2009, 22:08:02
I'd hate to fight that APC. (sorry, IFV for the italians.) Their designs sure are improving!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-08-2009, 22:08:28
Oh, btw, on some screens the KT has a knight on a horse as an insignia for the unit it belonged to. I read in a book that the "schwere Panzerabteilung 505" (heavy tank detachment 505) had a knight as their insignia, but that detachment didn´t fight in Normandy, only in the Eastern theatre. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-08-2009, 23:08:35
I'd hate to fight that APC. (sorry, IFV for the italians.) Their designs sure are improving!

That`s the CB45 Carro Bambino, introduced in the German army as SdKfz976(i) "Kinderüberraschung"
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 07-08-2009, 23:08:50
Sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded in FH2. Usually you are just crawling through a hellish artillery bombardment that rips your ears out and dims your vision, when out of nowhere a bullet hits you, and before your death you hear the distinctive sound of air and blood bubbling out of your lungs from the bullet hole, and then you have an OOBE showing your body contorting into an unnatural position. But sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded or anything nasty. And of course, adding even empty baby carts is "mentally ill". ::)

Well...you just have to know where the line goes. If you consider the current content in FH2 to be potentialy "mentaly ill" then you just need to man up.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 08-08-2009, 01:08:49
Sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded in FH2. Usually you are just crawling through a hellish artillery bombardment that rips your ears out and dims your vision, when out of nowhere a bullet hits you, and before your death you hear the distinctive sound of air and blood bubbling out of your lungs from the bullet hole, and then you have an OOBE showing your body contorting into an unnatural position. But sure, nobody's getting killed or wounded or anything nasty. And of course, adding even empty baby carts is "mentally ill". ::)

Well...you just have to know where the line goes. If you consider the current content in FH2 to be potentialy "mentaly ill" then you just need to man up.
If you consider an empty baby carriage "mentaly ill" then you just need to man up.

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-08-2009, 01:08:12
It's just a nice and practical static. Just put it into a room and you have a nice cozy french living room, tilt it a bit and put it into a pile of rubble and you have a human drama equaling "Schindler's list".
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: CBC on 08-08-2009, 01:08:32
the Whirlwind, ummmmm, I guess that's an awesome anti-infantry platform,

so guys, no, the Devs don't need a plane to make the Whirlwind useful.. 8)


and seriously, this post just make me want 2.2 even more,,

(dammit, you can just release the damn thing now, you can do more add-on later, I wanna play now!!@)

voice deep inside my heart ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kelmola on 08-08-2009, 02:08:50
Well...you just have to know where the line goes. If you consider the current content in FH2 to be potentialy "mentaly ill" then you just need to man up.
You completely misunderstood my sarcasm. I tried to say that FH2 already portrays the "nasty" side of war, although in a PG-13-ish form (no loose limbs or spilling entrails or something else as entertaining). So adding something bloodless but tragic to remind that innocent civilians do suffer as well in the midst of all this would NOT be ill or tasteless in any way - an empty baby cart would be a sobering reminder of what really happens in war.

Of course, in a real war waged in an inhabited area, civilians would inevitably get caught between the lines and in the crossfire, and the results from that are not pretty, either. But FH2 being primarily an online multiplayer game could not technically handle live civilians wandering around the battlefield, before they get killed. Let the other, single-player oriented games handle this aspect.

And that remark of manning up - as long as the violence stays on the other side of the screen, it does not disturb me at all, but rather works as a cathartic experience. Speaking of violence, I might just as well watch Tokyo Gore Police again.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 08-08-2009, 06:08:28
Its an italian APC armed with a pistol!
It's nice to see they're getting some weapon improvements! Go Italia!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: LtJimmy on 08-08-2009, 08:08:17
The Achilles
The Wibelwind
Ingame Screens
The Royal Tiger (you heard me)
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5049/124786774531.jpg)
Btw VMudra: the devs would put in something historically inaccurate, The Piper L4 "Grasshopper". QED.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 08-08-2009, 09:08:00
Tedacious, get real.

Kelmola, I did not misunderstand anything. And you talk like this is war, it's a game.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fenring on 08-08-2009, 09:08:19
back on topic now, personal rants you can do with PM's
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: elander on 08-08-2009, 12:08:15
WTF Guys!!

I'm totaly stoned by this!!

The most crazy update ever!!!

Bazooka guy.. is this bf2 graphics or have you guys moved over to the crysis engine? :P So darn nice!!!

And I was like: WTF!! att the church static in the background, awsomeness!!

Tiger II looks so proud!! And terrefieing !

This update was just crazy: Pure Awesomeness!!! OMG!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 08-08-2009, 13:08:04
Bazooka guy.. is this bf2 graphics or have you guys moved over to the crysis engine? :P So darn nice!!!

Ingamequality, say thanks to the devs for making this awesome models.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: M00SE on 08-08-2009, 14:08:44
Things are really shaping up now  :)

A big thanks from me to all the Devs for the hardwork and dedication in bringing us this mod.

We all know there is a lot of excitment brewing within the community about the up comming patch.

I have a strong feeling that few will be dissapointed ( you can never please everyone) when it arrives, and, I`m pretty sure that for the majority of guys, with what Normandy holds for them, it will far excede their expectations.

Great work guys  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-08-2009, 14:08:26


The most crazy update ever!!!

The churchill update was the best one imo
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 08-08-2009, 14:08:05
I'm usually quite restrained in these matters but I can echo the sentiments of those who can now barely contain themselves with excitement. Can't wait for release!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuzz on 08-08-2009, 15:08:33
Awesone news guys!  :o

But...anyone kwow what map or city is on the in-game screenshot?
With Phoenixo_Idaho from the 79th we think this is the city of Caen, maybe because the Church looks like the church saint Pierre in Caen and the houses are the same from this part of normandy.
I live in Caen and i can say i'm feeling really in normandy. The previous map Falaise pocket was beautiful but the houses aren't like that towards Falaise and we haven't church like that in Normandy.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 08-08-2009, 15:08:33
Awesone news guys!  :o

But...anyone kwow what map or city is on the in-game screenshot?
With Phoenixo_Idaho from the 79th we think this is the city of Caen, maybe because the Church looks like the church saint Pierre in Caen and the houses are the same from this part of normandy.
I live in Caen and i can say i'm feeling really in normandy. The previous map Falaise pocket was beautiful but the houses aren't like that towards Falaise and we haven't church like that in Normandy.


The map in the pictures has been stated to be a map designed for screenshot-taking, not a playable map in the release.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuzz on 08-08-2009, 15:08:04
Noooooooo why???  :'(
This is maybe the most beautiful city map i have seen
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-08-2009, 15:08:20
Noooooooo why???  :'(
This is maybe the most beautiful city map i have seen
Your opinion might chance...

Just sayin' ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuzz on 08-08-2009, 16:08:37
I hope...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 08-08-2009, 16:08:13
The map in the pictures has been stated to be a map designed for screenshot-taking, not a playable map in the release.

I smell bullshit. Devs won't waste time to make map just to snap some screenshots.
Especially  city map.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-08-2009, 16:08:34
The map in the pictures has been stated to be a map designed for screenshot-taking, not a playable map in the release.

I smell bullshit. Devs won't waste time to make map just to snap some screenshots.
Especially  city map.


If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 08-08-2009, 16:08:41
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 08-08-2009, 16:08:41
Waste of time? Placing some buildings on a map to look nice for advertising purposes hardly counts as wasting time.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-08-2009, 17:08:28
On top of that it's nice to have some sort of "atmosphere" test map, where you can try out new statics or lighting settings and stuff.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-08-2009, 17:08:35
And to give some people something to whine about.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 08-08-2009, 17:08:44
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 08-08-2009, 18:08:39
Now you made the dreamcrusher sad, that's the end of the updates.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Twonkle on 08-08-2009, 18:08:03
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.

No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 08-08-2009, 18:08:47
No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
It's not a map, it's 20 houses and a church.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Smiles on 08-08-2009, 18:08:36
sounds like a map to me..

Edit: sorry it was provocing, my bad.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 08-08-2009, 18:08:15
sounds like a map to me..
Compare that to a regular FH2 map and how much is in one of those. For example, how many houses are there in Fall of Tobruk and Tunis?
They say it's a test map, then it is. I think they know what they're doing and what's a "waste of time" and what's not.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-08-2009, 18:08:04
Get a grip you lot...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 08-08-2009, 18:08:32
You guys do realize ofcourse that its their watch and not yours they use to determine what's a long time for development... Part of the reason FH2 looks and feels so professional is the professionalism of the devs and that includes the development process... It helps gameplay a great deal to have a test map for anything and everything... especially when balancing realism and fun @ such a knife edge...

Last thing they need is people telling them they don't know what they are about - Productive criticism is one thing - And if you haven't already noted, I think fictional maps is a low, low priority, especially Normandy-style finctional maps - If it doesn't exist, the devs wont put it in, just becuase it looks good and feels Normandy-ish

Personally, what that 'map' does show me, is the freshness that can be achieved from a variant positioning of structures - Past Normandy maps appear to be small countryside areas, a map such as exists in the update appear as a town setting using buildings which are clearly not yet ingame... I see only positive in such a feature

Especially, since I'm dying for the devs to have more variety in the Normandy maps, city-style maps, Carentan and other towns

That said, the already-done maps are a big step up, In FH1 most Normandy maps are nothing more than a few houses on a plain... Apart from Road to Ramelle, Ramelle Neuville and maybe Neunen which barely cuts it, most other European maps in FH1 are with alot less personality.... Justr a number of cottages, for most of them.
Think, omaha charlie sector, Gold beach, Juno, In the Hell of..., Road to Carentan, Goodwood, Falaise pocket...

Even Anheim, which is probably the best house-to-house map in FH1 seems too semetrical with most buildings lacking personality... The distinction between these and FH2s new Normandy maps is already quite large - But I'm just waiting for a full city map, Cherborg or something... A map perhaps with a look like Company of Heroes Cherborg... ALL city, bridges, factories, apartments, dark alleys and narrow, winding, undulating  streets... and THAT church straight up a dual carraige road...This update's screenshots show only promise :-)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: pheeph on 08-08-2009, 21:08:18
man, I thought that Wirbelwind was never going to come... and I suggested this years ago for FH1.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 08-08-2009, 21:08:32
with the droppiing of rounds and thus the snaking way tracer flies over long distance, sure will be nice to see em with a flakpanzer... The flakvierling is the sexiest sounding AA in FH2, nice to see it mobile...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 08-08-2009, 23:08:26
It's weird to see that the church from the screenshot looks like to the Saint-Pierre church in Caen. Maybe a static for the battle of this town?  ;D

(http://www.memorial-caen.fr/fr/phototheque/images/PCD120732432065-IMG0033.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fp7FSoWENiA/SmLAgQfgpII/AAAAAAAAG1c/9PSMV5mpDKI/s400/Saint-Pierre-Caen.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2009, 00:08:24
Wrong church.  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Toddel on 09-08-2009, 00:08:03
but it look allmost the same i must say.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 09-08-2009, 01:08:24
ooh, and look @ that lovely double road right infront of it.... *hint, hint*
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: AdamPA1006 on 09-08-2009, 06:08:49
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.

No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
Im not complaining
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 09-08-2009, 09:08:52
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.

No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
Im not complaining
Really?  Thats nice.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 09-08-2009, 10:08:53
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.

No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
Im not complaining
Really?  Thats nice.

Quote pyramid much?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 09-08-2009, 11:08:58
To Djin

Carefull, the town of Caen has been destroyed during this long battle. in the recent pictures, the roads you see are totally new.

To toddle

 ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 09-08-2009, 12:08:25
u know the jeep was never shown in any update before 2.0 was released?... And Aberdeen was shown @ practically the same time as the relase also.. ok, scrap the last example... Point it, Its those hidden gems that I'm really looking foward to... Imagine a map that isn't shown in any update until the release date is announced, or one of them lovely vehicles, say a famous American ground aircraft....

 just have a thing for probability...Hey, devs, stop me if getting warmer... :-)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 09-08-2009, 12:08:38
it would be nice ! FH2 boxind day?

The ghot map i would enjoy to find is Omaha Beach  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: silian on 09-08-2009, 13:08:25
Awesome update, i'm a little surprised by the inclusion of the Wirbelwind though, i would've expected it in later versions of the mod, as the only unit in Normandy to recieve any was s.SS.Pz.Abt.501, which recieved four in August (so they might not have seen any action in Normandy at all), has it been included to represent the field-built flakpanzers of the 12th SS Panzer Division perhaps? Anyway can't wait to use it in action.

Quote from: Lightning
It's not a map, it's 20 houses and a church.


Needs more houses methinks...  ;)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/skcoclis/090806M1_4.jpg)

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 09-08-2009, 13:08:27
Here is my simple logical deduction on both the Marder and the 'houses'.... Can you say, Ramelle Neuville? *LOL*

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cin3k33 on 09-08-2009, 13:08:07
It's weird to see that the church from the screenshot looks like to the Saint-Pierre church in Caen. Maybe a static for the battle of this town?  ;D


This in wallpaper has two towers, one is hidden behind smoke.

My guess is  Saint-Étienne church in Caen.

(http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/caen/0028.jpg)
(http://www.old-picture.com/europe/pictures/St-032.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: kukstaur on 09-08-2009, 14:08:44
Oh My God, I just got a Saving Private Ryan vibe by watching those pics ! Bring it !
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-08-2009, 14:08:26
Oh My God, I just got a Saving Private Ryan vibe by watching those pics !
That's not a good thing you know.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuzz on 09-08-2009, 14:08:22
Wow Cin3k33 with you're perfect eyes i didn't see the second towers behind the smoke! i think it's right this is Saint Etienne church. There is two church with two towers in Caen, but Saint Etienne church is the only with towers like that.

---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbaye-aux-Hommes
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 09-08-2009, 15:08:28
If devs say its made for screenshot purposes, its made for screenshot purposes. End of story.

Ok. End of story. Devs are wasting time.

So... Newsupdates are a waste of time? That's good to know.

No making photo shoot maps are a waste of time, unless you tend to actually put them in the release.
Im not complaining
Really?  Thats nice.

Quote pyramid much?
:P, yeah.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 09-08-2009, 15:08:18


This in wallpaper has two towers, one is hidden behind smoke.

My guess is  Saint-Étienne church in Caen.



Oh god you right  :o ! well done
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: elander on 09-08-2009, 15:08:40
Well I must agree that you devs are crazy :) Makeing a awsome looking city for pwnage screenies ;) But that's how the fh2 devs are; Crazy and this is not a waste of time!!

Once again devs: Tanks ( :p ) for an awesome update you guys are crazy :D

@ cin3k33

Sheeet! You're right! Nice
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2009, 15:08:44
Hahaha good thing Normandy is filled with different kinds of churches, its not as easy to guess what it is.

You guys are so funny its frustrating.  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 09-08-2009, 15:08:03
Flippy is trying too hard to make us feel we are way off base, the second steeple is too coincidental, and the devs are on the defensive about this being anything more than a couple of houses...

I SAY CAEN!!... BUSTE-ED!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 09-08-2009, 16:08:00
Djinn, your making a fool out of yourself. The very first screenshot of Normandy ever shown already showed a 'Caen' roadsign, the screenshot of Operation Charnwood, later they told us this map was dumped and now it's just a Hollywood for FH's screenshots. A big studio.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 09-08-2009, 16:08:35
Not the same.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Be4viz/asdasfasff.png)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2009, 16:08:22
Flippy is trying too hard to make us feel we are way off base

You wanna bet? Who here knows things and who doesnt? ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cin3k33 on 09-08-2009, 16:08:20
Biiviz, devs are nit so accurate, this is Caen curch...

or maybe Cherbourg :D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3342385658_faa27bd303.jpg?v=0)


I was looking for other churches with 2 towers in normandy, and the most probably are from Caen and Chebourg, others chureches with 2 towers are hmm cathedrals. Bayeux:

(http://i.pbase.com/o4/19/589219/1/54041738.bayeuxchurch.jpg)

I believe this is caen.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 09-08-2009, 16:08:27
Biiviz, devs are nit so accurate, this is Caen curch...
... :(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2009, 16:08:22
lol
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Rataxes on 09-08-2009, 16:08:43
maybe just an ordinary village church. Common guys don't jizz you pants over a church. What would Jesus have said?  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Slayer on 09-08-2009, 17:08:55
Jesus didn't have any pants, so...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 09-08-2009, 17:08:55
maybe just an ordinary village church. Common guys don't jizz you pants over a church. What would Jesus have said?  ;D
'Why art thou wearing wet, warm and sticky rough cotton straps around thous legs?'
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 09-08-2009, 17:08:23
It's more frustating for french as Fuzz or me who used to live in Caen  ;D


In France, these kind of church are not as so many as you can think. they are masterpieces among simply churchs  ;).
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: elander on 09-08-2009, 22:08:29
Biiviz, devs are nit so accurate, this is Caen curch...

or maybe Cherbourg :D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3342385658_faa27bd303.jpg?v=0)


I was looking for other churches with 2 towers in normandy, and the most probably are from Caen and Chebourg, others chureches with 2 towers are hmm cathedrals. Bayeux:

(http://i.pbase.com/o4/19/589219/1/54041738.bayeuxchurch.jpg)

I believe this is caen.

I vote it's Strasbourg Notre Dame Cathedral  :)

(http://www.worldculturepictorial.com/images/content/cologne-cathedral_germany.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 09-08-2009, 22:08:23
Wrong! compare the roofs of the towers!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-08-2009, 22:08:35
I say it's the Tyrvää St. Olaf church!

(http://www.netikka.net/tkv/1K1/Tyrvaan_Pyhan_Olavin_kirkko040604.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2009, 22:08:53
I raise you church of Loviisa

http://www.codeman.fi/photo/loviisan_kirkko.jpg
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 09-08-2009, 22:08:39
Yeni Mosque in Instanbul, no doubt.

(http://www.netuse.co.uk/clients/salawaat/images/blue%20mosq.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Torenico on 09-08-2009, 22:08:10
Its a trap!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cin3k33 on 09-08-2009, 22:08:12
Biiviz, devs are nit so accurate, this is Caen curch...
... :(

I heard you don`t want to add plane shooting cross [coondignation?] to 2.2 thats why I wrote it. [unrealistic tging. Can be easy change]. And beaufighter speed was 515km/h stuka was 400km/h in FH2 stuka is as fast as beaufighte (or beufighter is as slow as stuka) unrealistic thing, can be easy change.

This things are like spines. Jab me while eating this tasty mod. That`s why I don`t wait for normandy as the others-speeeed! relase it!!. I want this mod without things like 2pdr couldn`t destroy pz4 with one rear hit.

Now after months of waiting I can wait one-two months more for, as you promised, diffrend mod, mod wich I hope won`t have many spikes.

   
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: silian on 09-08-2009, 22:08:42
No your all mistaken, it's quite clearly the Church of St. Mary Magdalen....

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1110/553310480_f9891e3cef.jpg?v=0)

My local church. You'd never guess they ran out of money when they built it originally (111 years ago).
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 09-08-2009, 23:08:22
Atleast the back looks nice. Just focus on that and ignore the barrack.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tedacious on 10-08-2009, 00:08:04
You are all wrong.
It's obviously Farstastrandskyrkan (the church of Farsta Strand)

(http://www.svenskakyrkan.se/farsta/images/Farstastrand.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 10-08-2009, 01:08:30
Ok, enough with the church spamming. The first one was funny, the others just sad.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Switzer on 10-08-2009, 05:08:44
I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!!!  :o

sorry I couldnt resist its a KT for gods sake.


And hurry up I'm tired of playing darkest hour.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 10-08-2009, 20:08:52
Awesone news guys!  :o

But...anyone kwow what map or city is on the in-game screenshot?
With Phoenixo_Idaho from the 79th we think this is the city of Caen, maybe because the Church looks like the church saint Pierre in Caen and the houses are the same from this part of normandy.
I live in Caen and i can say i'm feeling really in normandy. The previous map Falaise pocket was beautiful but the houses aren't like that towards Falaise and we haven't church like that in Normandy.


The map in the pictures has been stated to be a map designed for screenshot-taking, not a playable map in the release.
Though I am tempted on making it more than just a screenshot map... ;)


Thanks for the encouraging comments Fuzz!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-08-2009, 21:08:24
I JIZZED IN MY PANTS!!!  :o

sorry I couldnt resist its a KT for gods sake.


And hurry up I'm tired of playing darkest hour.
But Hide mister KT, We know you cant run.
Achilles comes, and rip off ur sides
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 10-08-2009, 22:08:57
To fuzz

+1
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-08-2009, 18:08:46
Quick question: on the screenshot with the Stuka-zu-Fuß firing its rockets, it looks like there is an MG 34 mounted on the back. Now I'm by no means a military historian, so I'm directing this question to someone like VonMudra or Megaraptor, but shouldn't there be an MG 42 mounted on the back? Or was the 34 still used for roles like that... or maybe im wrong completly and that is a 42
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 11-08-2009, 18:08:01
I'm pretty sure this is the only forum in existence where the members can be blamed at any time for "church spamming"....
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 11-08-2009, 19:08:11
Quick question: on the screenshot with the Stuka-zu-Fuß firing its rockets, it looks like there is an MG 34 mounted on the back. Now I'm by no means a military historian, so I'm directing this question to someone like VonMudra or Megaraptor, but shouldn't there be an MG 42 mounted on the back? Or was the 34 still used for roles like that... or maybe im wrong completly and that is a 42
They arm it with any MG available, there are versions with 1 MG42, don't worry.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 11-08-2009, 19:08:46
I thought mg 15s were used as well for the tail-end Charlies.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Neverdies on 11-08-2009, 19:08:40
Very nice work everyone congrats!  8)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 11-08-2009, 20:08:54
I thought mg 15s were used as well for the tail-end Charlies.

He's talking about the APC, not the plane, CPS:P

And yeah, it could ahve it, but that rear MG was the AA mg technically, so it was always mounted.  It usually was the MG34, and if they had a 42, that would def be mounted in the front position.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Die Happy on 11-08-2009, 21:08:11
in normandy most german apc will have MG42 in front and mg34 in back
but there are also version with 2 Mg42

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Tiny on 11-08-2009, 21:08:02
aaa....MG42.. ::)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 11-08-2009, 23:08:49
I thought mg 15s were used as well for the tail-end Charlies.

He's talking about the APC, not the plane, CPS:P

And yeah, it could ahve it, but that rear MG was the AA mg technically, so it was always mounted.  It usually was the MG34, and if they had a 42, that would def be mounted in the front position.
Forgive, I saw Stuka and just assumed!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: djinn on 16-08-2009, 22:08:31
I foresee a silent week on the fronlines :-(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-08-2009, 23:08:05
I foresee a silent week on the fronlines :-(
We are used to this!

But then again, its always worth the waiting!

Unless it those lame FH Tournament announchments <.<
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: [F|H]Deek_101 on 17-08-2009, 00:08:46
Those lame FH tournaments have been backing FH for over 5 years mister!  ;D

and Yes one will be WAW's Advert  on the next update as they submitted it as said stated in another thread :P .
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-08-2009, 00:08:36
Those lame FH tournaments have been backing FH for over 5 years mister!  ;D

and Yes one will be WAW's Advert  on the next update as they submitted it as said stated in another thread :P .
But if the update is only a WAW tourney     then it is lame
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 17-08-2009, 01:08:44
Those lame FH tournaments have been backing FH for over 5 years mister!  ;D

and Yes one will be WAW's Advert  on the next update as they submitted it as said stated in another thread :P .
But if the update is only a WAW tourney     then it is lame

completely, utterly, ridiculously lame
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 17-08-2009, 01:08:22
They don't really do that anymore. They know the community actually respond negatively and don't check the tourney out if there's no sweet for the bitter pill.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: LtJimmy on 17-08-2009, 03:08:16
They don't really do that anymore. They know the community actually respond negatively and don't check the tourney out if there's no sweet for the bitter pill.
Good to see they have learned. Usually if there's a FH update and all it is is a new tourney I just don't even bother reading and go straight to the forums and see if there is anything juicy there.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lobo on 17-08-2009, 03:08:00
Back on topic, lads
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 17-08-2009, 07:08:40
What happens with the main page?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kev4000 on 17-08-2009, 08:08:48
What happens with the main page?

Server issues it seems. I'm not 100% sure. Could be down for another few hours to a couple days.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ionizer on 17-08-2009, 13:08:06
Why does it redirect to ModDB?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 17-08-2009, 13:08:31
Probably so people can still find out a few things about the mod rather than assume it has died.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ionizer on 17-08-2009, 13:08:49
Also, I've noticed that Beta testers are a new group with 3 dots below their name.  Do you feel more superior to us 2 dotters now?  And what position is four dots?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-08-2009, 13:08:41
What?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: DLFReporter on 17-08-2009, 14:08:45
Also, I've noticed that Beta testers are a new group with 3 dots below their name.  Do you feel more superior to us 2 dotters now?  And what position is four dots?

Thx for telling me, I would never have noticed the 3 dark dots... ^^
And why yes I feel superior to almost everything when I get up in the morning. Even to myself. ^^
Anyway the 4 dot empire is just for godlike devs and their concubines. ^^


Just kidding, the dots have nothing to do with the betatester status.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-08-2009, 14:08:42
I thought the dots were linked to post count.

edit: But then I would have more dots than N24...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ionizer on 17-08-2009, 14:08:01
Just kidding, the dots have nothing to do with the betatester status.

They have to be, because you also get a new "FH-Betatester" title right under the dots.

Except apparently, Thorondor is not important enough to get the upgrade :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 17-08-2009, 14:08:38
Ah damnit, now I'm not the only 3-dotter anymore. As I was the only Full Member with +1000 posts.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-08-2009, 14:08:47
You little spam monkey.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-08-2009, 14:08:12


Except apparently, Thorondor is not important enough to get the upgrade :P
Thy're just adding people there in alphabetical order, or perhaps the coolest last.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Priestdk on 17-08-2009, 14:08:20
aww i feel minor now im a beta tester and i only have 2 black dots :-\

Eny way post count or dots does not make enything bigger between your legs
neither does intelligent posts but they sure as hell give you some more credit amongs others around here on the forum. ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 17-08-2009, 14:08:22
I still vote for no postcount at all.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ionizer on 17-08-2009, 14:08:12
Of course you do...  You've already spammed your way to the highest post count and now you want them all hidden so no one knows when someone has surpassed you!  I'm on to you...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 17-08-2009, 16:08:17
Do I also have this 3 dots?
€: yay! ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 17-08-2009, 16:08:24
Of course you do...  You've already spammed your way to the highest post count and now you want them all hidden so no one knows when someone has surpassed you!  I'm on to you...
I think you and me have to speak in that dark alley over there. Follow me sir..
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 17-08-2009, 16:08:14
Of course you do...  You've already spammed your way to the highest post count and now you want them all hidden so no one knows when someone has surpassed you!  I'm on to you...
I think you and me have to speak in that dark alley over there. Follow me sir..

You're going to kill him with replies? ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 17-08-2009, 16:08:59
Chirst almighty! more betatesters?

must....not....get....jealous...gah! *runs away*



Anyway, are we any closer to finding out whats happened to the main page?

Also about this post count milarkey, its not about how many posts you make, its about the quality of them  :P (if they're logical, needed, intelligent not if there multi-colour, lined with slik, etc, etc).


As far as this post goes, it fits none of the above statments  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-08-2009, 16:08:42
Some technical difficulties. Dont worry about it. Its coming back.

EDIT: Sites are all back up. Happy happy joy joy!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Eat Uranium on 17-08-2009, 16:08:07
Chirst almighty! more betatesters?

must....not....get....jealous...gah! *runs away*
You already test for one mod.  Don't be so greedy man :D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-08-2009, 16:08:49
How are beta-testers chosen?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 17-08-2009, 16:08:14
Apparently its by recommendation, but possibly by showing maturity, responsibility and some form of intelligence and politeness. Thats me out of the running then  ::)


@EU: I should actually remove that since they kicked me from the team due to 'the management team' being 'concerned about my activities', no further explination since then.....

......

frustrating, to say the least.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-08-2009, 16:08:39
Oh.  Well then I would like to point out that all the FH devs are the funniest and coolest and best looking guys I've ever seen.

Edit:  As are the beta-testers.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-08-2009, 16:08:38
Veteran testers will recommend new people who they know well. So, pubbies, start kissing our asses.  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 17-08-2009, 16:08:58
Some devs pick up the testers directly without the recommendation by any other testers.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-08-2009, 17:08:39
Oi! Where's my beta tester dots? :(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-08-2009, 17:08:44
I dont want to be a FH2 beta tester.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-08-2009, 17:08:07
And where's my betatester job?  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-08-2009, 18:08:26
I asked first.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2009, 18:08:42
Oi! Where's my beta tester dots? :(
It's the size of our feets, Thor. It's the size. Feet racism in it's worst kind.

GIVE US OUR DOTS OR GIVE US DEATH
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 17-08-2009, 19:08:47
I dont want to be a FH2 beta tester.

Reversed psychology, eh?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moose on 17-08-2009, 19:08:37
Flippy makes me tingle down there.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-08-2009, 19:08:50
I dont want to be a FH2 beta tester.

Reversed psychology, eh?
No really i dont. I rather see things released in the whole package. I know what it is being a tester(Altough not on a Bf2 mod)

No seriously, i never want to be a beta tester
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 17-08-2009, 19:08:06
Veteran testers will recommend new people who they know well. So, pubbies, start kissing our asses.  :P

We've had some great laughs on the battlefield, you and I.

That's all I'm saying.

(enjoy the Scotch that's in the post)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 17-08-2009, 19:08:54
Please guys, come back to the topic.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 17-08-2009, 19:08:57
not until you release 2.2! >:|
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 17-08-2009, 21:08:26
Please guys, come back to the topic.

News are outdated, what to discuss Mr. Aggroman, uh?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 17-08-2009, 21:08:06
Maybe nothing?
Just let this thread sleep.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 17-08-2009, 21:08:32
Maybe nothing?
Just let this thread sleep.

Amen
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moose on 17-08-2009, 23:08:09
Nope! Can't let that fly sir.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Smiles on 18-08-2009, 01:08:30
and now im wondering how many dots i have

1
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Kev4000 on 18-08-2009, 03:08:30
Some devs pick up the testers directly without the recommendation by any other testers.

Only when a potential tester has some skill they might be able to contribute to FH2. Else your chances are slim. If you for example post a model or texture in the modding forums, and a dev likes what he sees, he may recommend you for tester. Doesn't even have to be FH2 quality, just has to show potential. We like recruiting people and teaching them the ropeswings.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moose on 18-08-2009, 16:08:42
What if I just knife the shit out of you on Gazala?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Gl@mRock on 18-08-2009, 18:08:07
What if I just knife the shit out of you on Gazala?

Therefore you can take his "Dev parking spot".  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-08-2009, 10:08:54
So, how will the KT behave in battle?

Will its frontal armor survive the shots from the 17PDR?

Will the 17pdr have specialised ammo aswel(If all german tanks can have their special tanks, so can the the allies)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Die Happy on 19-08-2009, 10:08:40
17pdr dont get special ammo IRRC only AP and HE, not 100% sure though.
but many british tanks and for example the M10 get special Anti tank ammo in normandy.

the KT seem very strong not sure how the fireflys on the maps manage to kill it but i guess shots in the sides will do the trick. i havent really been able to drive that thing ingame yet in combat. there are always like 10 people waiting for it to spawn ^^


i really do hope we get a news update today if so you are in for a treat
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 19-08-2009, 11:08:15
17pdr dont get special ammo IRRC only AP and HE, not 100% sure though.
but many british tanks and for example the M10 get special Anti tank ammo in normandy.

the KT seem very strong not sure how the fireflys on the maps manage to kill it but i guess shots in the sides will do the trick. i havent really been able to drive that thing ingame yet in combat. there are always like 10 people waiting for it to spawn ^^


i really do hope we get a news update today if so you are in for a treat
Reading this post fills me with joy. Not least because of the details on the M10/KT. It seems that the KT will be the near impregnable fortress i was hoping for  ;D will one of the weak points also be parts of the turret?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Die Happy on 19-08-2009, 11:08:15
as i said i dont really know, i ve only seen it a few times ingame yet and most of the times i was in another tank giving support on the flanks or covering it from infantry attack or just being on the opposite site of the map exploiting the overall excitement/fear/whatever of the allies facing the tiger to cap now unguarded flags back because all the allies try to hunt down the KT.

even if that thing would spawn without ammo it lures in allies like flies to a big pile of cow shit ;)

it is strong is guess it scurvies very long when you dont rambo around with it but the sides and back are definitely weak points for attacks from large caliber guns like the 17pdr or captured german AT equipment, panzerschreck/pak40/88 even fausts i think.   
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-08-2009, 13:08:56
17pdr dont get special ammo IRRC only AP and HE, not 100% sure though.
but many british tanks and for example the M10 get special Anti tank ammo in normandy.

the KT seem very strong not sure how the fireflys on the maps manage to kill it but i guess shots in the sides will do the trick. i havent really been able to drive that thing ingame yet in combat. there are always like 10 people waiting for it to spawn ^^

The 17 pounder used APCBC and APDS anti-tank rounds. Especially the APDS had no difficulities penetrating the Tiger II's frontal armour.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-08-2009, 14:08:58
Especially since late war steel was of low quality.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 19-08-2009, 14:08:27
as i said i dont really know, i ve only seen it a few times ingame yet and most of the times i was in another tank giving support on the flanks or covering it from infantry attack or just being on the opposite site of the map exploiting the overall excitement/fear/whatever of the allies facing the tiger to cap now unguarded flags back because all the allies try to hunt down the KT.

even if that thing would spawn without ammo it lures in allies like flies to a big pile of cow shit ;)

it is strong is guess it scurvies very long when you dont rambo around with it but the sides and back are definitely weak points for attacks from large caliber guns like the 17pdr or captured german AT equipment, panzerschreck/pak40/88 even fausts i think.   
Every time you post something like this it gets me all excited imagining what ur describing lol. Keep going!  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Die Happy on 19-08-2009, 15:08:58
i hope someone is not pissed if i quote him from the internal forums
this is what he wrote when the tiger first showed up in the change log.  first no names unless the guy wants to be named  ;)

Quote
The sun is shining in the clear blue sky, as a german parade of tigers go around the streets of the forum. Amongst the crowd cheering on the streets the children, with their little tiger flags, wave as they smile towards the tank driver, who smiles back at them.

Women, leaning halfway through their windows, wave to the tigers as the parade passes their houses, with the Gunners waving back, and winking.

A person in the crowd waves a banner, with the name Toddel written over it. The Tank commander looks over the endless crowd of happy, joyfull people, cheering and shouting "Tiger! Tiger! Tiger"..

The road ahead is dark and tired and the sky looks gloomy. The voices of the crowd fade out into a distance. There are many battles and deaths this machine will deal and take, the leading Tiger tank commander thinks to himself, peering into the horizon ahead. His thoughts go back to the parade and he whispers to himself, smiling "But today.. Today, is a good day to be an FHer!"

*cue dramatic music!
*end scene

we are a crazy bunch, but we love it. (this includes all FH2 fans not just devs or testers)
imo, it it those little things that make FH so special. no other game was able to interest amaze me over so many years.
 :-* (http://ifihada.com/~jbp/cj.gif)

man i m in such a sharing mood today
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 19-08-2009, 15:08:40
Feels good doesnt it  ;D


<3
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 19-08-2009, 17:08:44
Are there any reasons to wait for update?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: DLFReporter on 19-08-2009, 17:08:11
Are there any reasons to wait for update?

No more than on any other week day. :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 19-08-2009, 17:08:59
No more than on any other week day. :)

You know, man, I like Lightning for straight answers.
Hate people walking around the question.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Aggroman on 19-08-2009, 17:08:09
As I can't find Lighning anywhere, the answer should be "No".
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 19-08-2009, 19:08:30
No more than on any other week day. :)

You know, man, I like Lightning for straight answers.
Hate people walking around the question.
You depend on the dream crusher for straight answers? You are in for a crush, my friend.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Lightning on 19-08-2009, 22:08:52
I cannot access the website FTP at the moment, so no update today.

There will be an update when the FTP works again though, which will hopefully be tomorrow.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 19-08-2009, 22:08:35
I cannot access the website FTP at the moment, so no update today.

There will be an update when the FTP works again though, which will hopefully be tomorrow.

So, who want to continue the "Guess Game"?

(New map, or maybe some in-game shots)


Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Zrix on 20-08-2009, 00:08:51
I bet it's just a news post stating that the FTP is back online.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Meadow on 20-08-2009, 00:08:46
It's been a while since we saw a new map, so why the hell not, I'll have a guess - the reveal of what 'Overlord' is. And I'm fully aware that it could well just be a test map.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: VonMudra on 20-08-2009, 00:08:01
I hope for a Wespe and Priest....
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: HRH-squidlips the-III on 20-08-2009, 01:08:33
sturmtiger, perhaps maybe please i beg you      ohh well
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-08-2009, 01:08:11
Sturmtiger = no.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Cory the Otter on 20-08-2009, 02:08:53
overlord = please
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 20-08-2009, 03:08:22
A flying monkey kit, in game of course. It would be a huge surprise for all of us.
 ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: LtJimmy on 20-08-2009, 07:08:02
One of the beach landing maps (Omaha, Utah, Gold, Juno, Sword).
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Biiviz on 20-08-2009, 08:08:14
GMC/105/Map
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: 508th PIR Hawkeye on 20-08-2009, 09:08:02
Once more I'll go (hope) for a release announcement  8)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Phoenixo_Idaho on 20-08-2009, 14:08:14
They are not ready yet for a release ! give them more time  ;D.

Hoping for a landing beach too. I'm even hungry for pointe du hoc  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: LtJimmy on 20-08-2009, 14:08:47
...I'm even hungry for pointe du hoc  :P
Dude... it's already done:
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=maps&scenario=1&map=18&lang=english (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=maps&scenario=1&map=18&lang=english)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: ajappat on 20-08-2009, 16:08:04
Btw, I tought devs said that they will never add mobile AA. Anyone else remember this?  ::)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Thorondor123 on 20-08-2009, 17:08:37
No?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: G.Drew on 20-08-2009, 18:08:33
Btw, I tought devs said that they will never add mobile AA. Anyone else remember this?  ::)
They said they wouldnt add mobile artillery. Fortunatley they have, afaik  :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moose on 20-08-2009, 19:08:27
Please just release already, Im getting bored this summer and need some new FH
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Fuchs on 20-08-2009, 19:08:04
Ban Moose?..
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2009, 21:08:59
Ban Moose?..
You, wise man, speak good words
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: K.Cower on 20-08-2009, 21:08:45
Please just release already, Im getting bored this summer and need some new FH

Check e-mail, Devs already send you distributive of 2.2
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 6th August 2009: Prowlers
Post by: Moose on 21-08-2009, 00:08:22
Hey sweet!