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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Lightning on 15-07-2009, 22:07:30
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Hello and welcome back to another update of Forgotten Hope. This week we are showing off the new map 'Falaise Pocket', but before we go to the screenshots we would like to welcome a few new developers. We have added as many as 3 new mappers to our team in the past few weeks; Fuchswiesel, who made today's map, Sorken and Spaetzle. Welcome to the development team guys!
Read the rest of this update on our website (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english&id_news=292).
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YES! AWESOME!
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NICE! ;D
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omfg OMFG
wow 3 new mappers.Fantastic!That will speed things up a bit
Nice update 9/10
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Great news with new mappers, Falaise, and Canada firmly entrenched so people know now.
Progress!!!!!
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wow 3 new mappers.That will speed things up a bit
Now if they had 3 new modelers too. :P
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First pic of PzIV H in game ftw!
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Hey Spaetzle good to see your still modding :).
Map looks nice, as well.
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wow 3 new mappers.That will speed things up a bit
Now if they had 3 new modelers too. :P
you mean 3 more coders , more. not new. ;)
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Welcome to the new Devs.
Great work, can't wait to die a lot playing it ;D
Here's the mini map
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Falaise%20Pocket/minimap_small.jpg)
btw this is the 6th map, 4 more to go
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Nice update after a day at work. Canadian powaaa. And welcome to the 3 new mappers.
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Falaise ftw!
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Kampfgruppe Fuchs? commanded by our Fuchs?
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Ok time to tease some people.
I just walked over this map and god it's so beautiful.
Mwhahahahahaah! :-*
That does feel good :)
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looks great!
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the mappers kinda knocked me on my ass. other than that, i've seen it before.
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Lookin' good!
The tanks look amazing...can't wait to try them 8)
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awesome!
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Great map and my congratulations to all 3 new toasted devs ;D
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TO THE NEW DEVS:
I shall toast you with my heartiest wine!
Come! I have some wenches for your pleasure!
Eat! The suckling pig is on the way!
(http://www.houseofhorrors.com/crypt/pages/uploads/hall.jpg)
We'll play all day, then watch Bruce Willis movies!
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THESE TANKS...DAT PANTHER...
(http://www.shameinnothing.com/data/lulz/dat_ass.jpg)
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Looks beautiful :D
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(http://sp0.fotolog.com/photo/32/47/22/ramonmadee/1241351696481_f.jpg)
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Ni-ice - And an accelerant..swe-et
Now looking foward to a city map with double roads, aparment buildings and dark alley ways
But I don't think we should be expecting 10 maps for the first release - Maybe 8, and that's pushing it
But I think there are enuff bocage-ey country/town side maps, that's for sure
What were the other beta maps ppl kept seeing?
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Just WOW... :o
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Wow~~~Awesome update! That means you finished development on Normandy and we will soon see the release, right? coz falaise pocket is the ending battle of Normandy.
;Dwell, just kidding, keep up the good work, men.
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This map really looks good.
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I like the looks of that deployable mortar.
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is that a river in middle? swimming fest coz there's only 1 bridge?
i wouldn't like to see too many swimmers around.
anyway, nice map.
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is that a river in middle? swimming fest coz there's only 1 bridge?
i wouldn't like to see too many swimmers around.
anyway, nice map.
I think the mappers are smart enough to make some other ways to get over the river.
Anyway awesome update looking forward to see the other maps :)
Hope the 3 new dev's will shorten the release for fh2.2 ;D
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I think the mappers are smart enough to make some other ways to get over the river.
Anyway awesome update looking forward to see the other maps :)
Hope the 3 new dev's will shorten the release for fh2.2 ;D
Of course it will shorten all releases of FH2 :P.
I hope they know modeling
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At last! Tres bein guys! ;D
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Cool update, does come back "later" officially mean whenever something is ready? Nothing planned? anway map looks awesome, I hate looking at these i literally cant wait for 2.2
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is that a river in middle? swimming fest coz there's only 1 bridge?
i wouldn't like to see too many swimmers around.
anyway, nice map.
im sure theres a shallow path like there is in barida.
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is that a river in middle? swimming fest coz there's only 1 bridge?
coughbardiacough
actually, you can clearly see the shallow path where you can walk or drive here:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Falaise%20Pocket/falaise_pocket_1.jpg)
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Question.
The Hanomag is a static (Has doors open) or its a vehicle (Has white smoke, signs of damage).
¿
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Question.
The Hanomag is a static (Has doors open) or its a vehicle (Has white smoke, signs of damage).
¿
a static wreck to be specific (in the picture above)
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Nice looking Map!
Welcome to the new mappers!
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Hmmm, I wonder if they've already shown the Normandy Kubels and Opels....
Potential bonus?
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I believe we have seen the Kubel before,
Great update, welcome to the new mappers. Take your time, make it worth our while.
I have questions/ comment about the map,
Q: Are all the buildings occupiable in the town?
Q: Are some of the new mappers also part of Forgotten Honour tournament?
Comment: I really like how all the statics presented lately seem to incorporate better firing positions for infantry inside buildings or shooting over walls and such. I also really appreciate the lack of obstructive material that prevents a soldier in prone position from having suitable lines of fire while on some of those upper floors.
edit:Forgot to add awesome job on that Red ensign, I bet so many Canadian kids right now are shitting themselves asking "wtf is that flag".
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Good work guys, glad to see new devs as well ;)
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I have questions/ comment about the map,
Q: Are some of the new mappers also part of Forgotten Honour tournament?
Spaeztle was a BGF mod dev, as was fuchswiesel I believe (name sounds familiar... I could be wrong about him though).
Sorken is from FHT, yeah.
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I have questions/ comment about the map,
Q: Are all the buildings occupiable in the town?
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I would say the ratio is a bit higher than on Tunis.
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Thanks for the heads up.
BGF2 I presume? as there is a release this weekend of Battlegroup42, so separate mod teams for them then? (an age old story).
I am glad to see the guys from FHT chipping in where they can. Welcome Sorken
@ N24
Tunis has a good ratio so this map is going to be sweet as I pour HE shells from that 6 pounder into every building I see.
All in all, this month has had some good FH2 news with obviously more to come.
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
That patronizing sound clip needs to leave.
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
That patronizing sound clip needs to leave.
Aw come on. It was great to suddenly hear that in the middle of a firefight, and I think perhaps more of the armies should have had one like that. It certainly beat the redundant boredom of constantly hearing various forms of "Watch it!" or "I'm on your side!" or the like.
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Potential leak: didn't the Germans used a different kind of artillery gun by the time of Normandy?, the one with the muzzle suppressor.
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
That patronizing sound clip needs to leave.
Aw come on. It was great to suddenly hear that in the middle of a firefight, and I think perhaps more of the armies should have had one like that. It certainly beat the redundant boredom of constantly hearing various forms of "Watch it!" or "I'm on your side!" or the like.
I agree... it was one of my all time favorite voice commands because of its randomness! It was also the way he said it, almost like his dog got run over and he was really pissed or something.
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Potential leak: didn't the Germans used a different kind of artillery gun by the time of Normandy?, the one with the muzzle suppressor.
Its called a brake, not a suppressor. A suppressor would be like a silencers :P
And no, they the good ol' 105mm through the entire war.
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
It just makes us TK eachother doesn't it?
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Awesome. New mappers. and new map. It looks great.
Also, since when is Fuchs a Betatester? Is being a tester based on post count now? I better get spamming then...
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nice work! ;D
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Potential leak: didn't the Germans used a different kind of artillery gun by the time of Normandy?, the one with the muzzle suppressor.
Its called a brake, not a suppressor. A suppressor would be like a silencers :P
And no, they the good ol' 105mm through the entire war.
Together with the VERY common Lefh K19 155MM gun
They where the most common German artillery of the war
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I like the look of this new Falaise Pocket. It looks so much better than the FH1 version (damn I hated that one alot).
And welcome to new mappers! :D
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Potential leak: didn't the Germans used a different kind of artillery gun by the time of Normandy?, the one with the muzzle suppressor.
the british 25pdr will get one of those in normandy (well not a suppressor but a muzzel break)
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Canadian eh? Awesome map ;D
Kampfgruppe Fuchs... lol :D
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What?? first the fleeing dutchman gets a Kampfgruppe named after him and now he's beta tester?? life is not fair....
nice map btw.
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is that a river in middle? swimming fest coz there's only 1 bridge?
coughbardiacough
actually, you can clearly see the shallow path where you can walk or drive here:
actually, all i want to ask is that swimming won't be a possible path right?
because it looked ugly to have bunch of people jump in the waters and swim up.
(that happens a lot in Bardia, people jump into the water to prevent getting killed on the bridge since swimming is safer and could flank the Italians, which means swimming is a better way in Bardia)
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
That patronizing sound clip needs to leave.
Aw come on. It was great to suddenly hear that in the middle of a firefight, and I think perhaps more of the armies should have had one like that. It certainly beat the redundant boredom of constantly hearing various forms of "Watch it!" or "I'm on your side!" or the like.
About as much fun as spamming "Fall back!" and "Retreat!" when playing as the French. :P
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I start feeling bad for those flyboys though, not one airfield in sight. :P
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I haven't felt such pain through 'wanting' since 1985 the Christmas I got my Millenium Falcon & Imperial Shuttle.
Loving the steam on that dung heap (image12), now that's attention to detail, steaming pile of horse shit, ... now all we need do is find those damn horses!
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thanks for the update and the map. Beautiful work as usually
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Is this a push map in any form? Otherwise I could see this one being quite chaotic.
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No its not a Pushmap.
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Is this a push map in any form? Otherwise I could see this one being quite chaotic.
It works fine without push, the boundaries are missing on the shown minimap.
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Woha!! Wasnt expecting this!! Awesome work devs!!!
Wow!
Sorken! Finaly you got your thumb outof your ass :P Congratiolations! Sorken is a workhourse! Awesome guy!
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Also, since when is Fuchs a Betatester? Is being a tester based on post count now? I better get spamming then...
I'm beating you. you'd better get crackin'. I'll be mod leader soon!
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"YOUR MOTHER'S A BEAVER!" Ah yes. I cannot wait to hear that again. It was always one of the greatest sound bites in all of Battlefield 1942.
That patronizing sound clip needs to leave.
Aw come on. It was great to suddenly hear that in the middle of a firefight, and I think perhaps more of the armies should have had one like that. It certainly beat the redundant boredom of constantly hearing various forms of "Watch it!" or "I'm on your side!" or the like.
About as much fun as spamming "Fall back!" and "Retreat!" when playing as the French. :P
Nah, they say standard boring things if I remember correctly. ;) ("Repliez-vous" I think it was.)
It just makes us TK eachother doesn't it?
When one plays mostly with bots on coop, definitely! :D
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I was referring to the white flag waving French stereotype :P
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nice map ;D
that will be a hell of a fight for that bridge
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I was referring to the white flag waving French stereotype :P
I know, but I was referring to the fact that the voices didn't make a joke out of it, and hence the comparison isn't quite the same. Had they said something completely ridiculous, then it would be more relevant.
Actually, given the time frame that Road to Rome came out, it's actually very surprising that they didn't include some sort of joke about that.
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Lovly map!
and its so nice to see more mappers being addet to the team.
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I can see bardia 2 here ;D
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What?? first the fleeing dutchman gets a Kampfgruppe named after him and now he's beta tester?? life is not fair....
nice map btw.
Yes, but my situation is quite desperate on that map, I can't get out of that stupid gap.
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How did you get that job anyway? Whining until they were fed up with it? ;)
Seriously though, congratz.
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Nah, he's only used as a target ;)
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I've really got the hang of mapping recently. After 2.2 I will start a European map and will try to apply to the dev team with it. And then we'll see who has the last laugh muhahaha
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They always tie me to this pole and fire at me :(
Luckily they aim like shit.
But the reason they made me betatester is so I wont spam so much in these forums.
Lol TS, I'm going to learn texturing and texture for Traction Wars, then I'm a double dev and betatester, I laugh last.
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But the reason they made me betatester is so I wont spam so much in these forums.
delete that sentence or face the spammy consequences.
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Hey Spaetzle good to see your still modding :).
Map looks nice, as well.
Hey, yeah I´m still in the business! :)
I have questions/ comment about the map,
Q: Are some of the new mappers also part of Forgotten Honour tournament?
Spaeztle was a BGF mod dev, as was fuchswiesel I believe (name sounds familiar... I could be wrong about him though).
Sorken is from FHT, yeah.
The news text tells only half the story. Sorken and me do also static objects, so we might support the team even a bit more. To speak for my own, currently I do only statics. :) Once again, many thanks to Toddel and Smig teaching me the texturing and exporting process on static models :)
Ah btw, great map Fuchswiesel!
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Awesome map.
Plus the news of 3 new mappers gave me hope that before the next "front" we could actually see later Western Front battles like Arnhem, Bulge, Hürtgen Forest, crossing of the Rhine (etc. ad nauseaum) yet.
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Fuchs a betatester? what has happened with this good ol' community?!
Congratulations though, I'm just very suprised. and you know, for the sake of U&R you owe us (me, CPS, Ts) a lot of leaking (come on, no one will notice)
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Ok, I leak:
You will like 2.2.
OK REAL LEAK NOW: There will be a map called Falaise Pocket. Seriously.
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OMG! I got the honor of being a tadabester too! Just had to let it out somwhere all that buzzling joy. Lately my life is in a chaos regarding my new job and now this(!). Gotta start reading internal asap in the morning.
"Sweet dreams are made of this..."
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Why are so many new guys getting tadabester, but old vets like me get nothing....I'm sad. :'(
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Why are so many new guys getting tadabester, but old vets like me get nothing....I'm sad. :'(
There, there. You should be happy for me. NAO!
Geez I forgot to congratulate on our new update. Good to have those mappers on our side I tell ya.
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I don't even want to be a betatester. I want the finished product and want to play it for the first time like everybody else.
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I think it would be interesting to be a FH2 betatester. I mean I know what it involves and how it roughly operates, having being a betatester for a number of things myself. I'd like to try something different for a change :P
I would come up with other things, but Im too tired. Oh well lol.
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sat up... it's almost 2am and all I can think about is FH2 Normandy... sigh. <sad.
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I've really got the hang of mapping recently. After 2.2 I will start a European map and will try to apply to the dev team with it. And then we'll see who has the last laugh muhahaha
I shall follow you Sir :)
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I can see bardia 2 here ;D
unlike in bardia, no tanks would choose to run into the bridges, as it seemed that the shallow water is much safer to attack from.
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I wish the both of you, torenico and Ts4EVER good luck with that ;) However it is no easy road...
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I wish the both of you, torenico and Ts4EVER good luck with that ;) However it is no easy road...
I only fear one thing.
Lightmaps.
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
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I fear Lightning.
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
Well why is difficult? it just takes time and all, i mean, if i had more time i could make one good Ruhr Pocket map, and actually, thats my objetive.
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
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I don't even want to be a betatester. I want the finished product and want to play it for the first time like everybody else.
I was betatester for Battlefield Pirates 2, and I love to contribute in that way :) It's cool to have the developers close and answer questions like this: "How would you like this to be", "What do you think others will think about this"..etc
:)
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Likeing the look of this map. Looking forward to testing it too...
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Likeing the look of this map. Looking forward to testing it too...
You too?
Suddenly everyone seems to get a place as betatester.
Everyone except the old coots like vM.
Perhaps that's because he would find too many faults (think of the german uniform discussion), and thus would be somewhat of a pain in the ass ;)
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isnt it so that devs always apoint more beta tester close to a release, be glad and keep hoping.. hoi hoi Beta testers, i hope you guys can bear the pressure.
o btw, i'm really looking forward to a battle in the ramelle like ally on pict 17.
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Likeing the look of this map. Looking forward to testing it too...
You too?
Suddenly everyone seems to get a place as betatester.
Everyone except the old coots like vM.
Perhaps that's because he would find too many faults (think of the german uniform discussion), and thus would be somewhat of a pain in the ass ;)
Zweig your now simply making grumpy asshole comments.. Mudra isn't in since he didn't got recommended and I too don't understand why.
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What would it cost me to be recommended by you? ;D
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If I ever recommend anyone it has to be Mudra.
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What would it cost me to be recommended by you? ;D
Do you really want to know the kinky details?
Why are so many new guys getting tadabester, but old vets like me get nothing....I'm sad. :'(
*tear begins to form in the corner of my eye*so unfair, so unfair...
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i think for now we have enough testers
we finally were able to test some maps with a FULL server yesterday.
if only half of the new testers stick around longer than the usual bunch, who comes in plays the internal version and then never shows up again after a few months, we can make some good balancing progress the next weeks.
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Tsstssstss didn't you new testers get the mail that you should NOT brag about your new position? That also means no teasing.
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I didn't.
Hey guys, you know how awesome that Falaise Pocket map is, I played it yesterday and it's so sweet.
Something like that?
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Tsstssstss didn't you new testers get the mail that you should NOT brag about your new position? That also means no teasing.
I asked Fenring, and he said that I can call me a betatester now. :P
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You too??? I bet the only reason I didn't get the spot was that glider pic I leaked once >:( ;)
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If I ever recommend anyone it has to be Mudra.
He's supposed to brown-nose you, not the other way around :P
if only half of the new testers stick around longer than the usual bunch, who comes in plays the internal version and then never shows up again after a few months, we can make some good balancing progress the next weeks.
We had that problem on the EoD2 beta-testing team as well, so don't worry about it. As long as you regularly check who's active and get rid of those who aren't, to reduce the chance of leaks. But you guys have been at this for so long that I can't imagine you haven't got it figured out by now. :)
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The only reason we added more testers was so that we can final-test all maps with full server, nothing else. So if anything, this will speed up the release process, which in the end, is the only thing we are working for. ;)
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Likeing the look of this map. Looking forward to testing it too...
You too?
Suddenly everyone seems to get a place as betatester.
Everyone except the old coots like vM.
Perhaps that's because he would find too many faults (think of the german uniform discussion), and thus would be somewhat of a pain in the ass ;)
Zweig your now simply making grumpy asshole comments.. Mudra isn't in since he didn't got recommended and I too don't understand why.
oh come on fuchs:) I was just joking!
and before that I was simply implying that I did not really wish to be a betatester (though I guess I wouldn't say no if I were offered the position)
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The wink made it look so nobbish and arseholish, sorry Zweig :-*
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Is that church static enterable?
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It is enterable.
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any chance of an interior shot? or is it the same like the on on operation lüttich?
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Yeah its very much the same.
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Here's a little extra for you guys, courtesy of Fenring.
The website only supports 512 pixel minimaps, but we make them in 1024 pixel size. I thought it would be a shame to waste this high resolution picture, so here you go.
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Falaise%20Pocket/minimap_large.jpg)
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It's... small...
What perplexes me a bit is the number of control points (and so close together).
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Be4viz/Feelsgoodmangreen.jpg)
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It's... small...
What perplexes me a bit is the number of control points (and so close together).
It looks crowded but it works, it plays very nice as infantry, bit like Fall of Tobruk with bigger tanks.
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Well without having played it I can't really comment on it. But my first thought was: that's going to be spammy.
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Tsstssstss didn't you new testers get the mail that you should NOT brag about your new position? That also means no teasing.
Didn't get that e-mail either. Is there anything wrong about telling you just got choosen for beta tests? I was so happy I had to let it out somehow - is it so wrong?
Anyway I'll stick to my 'job' now and go with the will of devs/senior BT.
Well without having played it I can't really comment on it. But my first thought was: that's going to be spammy.
Looks like heavy fightin' is in the way. Just like the old FH1 days. At least it seems that way but tests will tell.
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It's... small...
What perplexes me a bit is the number of control points (and so close together).
It looks crowded but it works, it plays very nice as infantry, bit like Fall of Tobruk with bigger tanks.
Im loving it! looks brillaint ;D
I can see some of the axis infantry will try and go for the back flags via the trees on the northern edge :P ;)
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The map looks good but I'm also thinking it's gonna be really spammy, just by looking at how narrow the map is. Perhaps opening up the side routes to objectives (ie, make the map wider) would help. I haven't played it, of course, but I don't see how it couldn't be spammy based on that mini map in its current shape.
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Perhaps some of the flags aren't spawnable?
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Well i got three Trojans OUT!!! of my computer so i will reinstall bf2 and if it dose not work... well..... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Looks great though!
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Well i got three Trojans OUT!!! of my computer so i will reinstall bf2 and if it dose not work... well..... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Looks great though!
Next time you set up a new OS, make sure to make use of these or something similar:
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http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
I'm using these for years and it keeps me very safe.
@ topic: The map layout looks very vanilla. I like that. Promises standard vehicle combat and short distances between flags.
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vanilla maps look like that?
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vanilla maps look like that?
When I speak of vanilla maps, I think of maps like BF1942 Bocage. Small combat area, small distances between flags but still excessive vehicle combat.
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Oh btw quick question, will we see any other heavy equipment apart from the 2/6 pounders and mybe a 25 pounder? I know we havent seen or heard anything about this weapon yet, but perhaps we could see the one and only: 17 pdr AT gun? any thoughts?
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It has not yet been shown. Might be nice as counterpart to the Flak 88
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Nice Update ;D
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Oh btw quick question, will we see any other heavy equipment apart from the 2/6 pounders and mybe a 25 pounder? I know we havent seen or heard anything about this weapon yet, but perhaps we could see the one and only: 17 pdr AT gun? any thoughts?
There is artillery, not a 25 pounder though, mortars.
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I think we might see american 105mm howitzer (same as on FH1) soon, since yanks don't have heavy arty yet. But it is possible that they might just put placeholders (mortar or 25pdr) and make howitzer for later campaigns.
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That doesn't sound like something they would do.
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They might just use mortars, then again it depends on the maps.
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Coming home after another week of intensive basic training (AGA) and seeing this makes me veeery happy :D
Great update, great map! Welcome to the new Devs and Betatesters, I hope we might see a enw release soon ;)
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Thanks for the minimap update, I'm really excited now it does seem like Fall of Tobruk in Normandy, which is epic cause that map is my favorite by far
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
Hours? sir you are wrong, its Days :-\
I have made my second lightmapping ever!, took me 34 Minutes for the map im makin.
But a dude talked me in xfire and for some reason, the editor crashed while saving..
But really, i would like to be a Betatester, Paradox Interactive almost picked me as an Hearts of Iron 3 Betatester.. sadly i lost duh.
So asking something, will Fuchs and these guys, they will be betatester forever? or just for Normandy?
IT would cool if you could pick random people for future releases, intead of the same everything.
*runs away*
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Compiling...please wait. (56)
Do not shut down your computer.
Compiling...please wait. (56)
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
Hours? sir you are wrong, its Days :-\
I have made my second lightmapping ever!, took me 34 Minutes for the map im makin.
But a dude talked me in xfire and for some reason, the editor crashed while saving..
But really, i would like to be a Betatester, Paradox Interactive almost picked me as an Hearts of Iron 3 Betatester.. sadly i lost duh.
So asking something, will Fuchs and these guys, they will be betatester forever? or just for Normandy?
IT would cool if you could pick random people for future releases, intead of the same everything.
*runs away*
Well some of the old trusted beta testers like Flippy Bear will stay as betatester for later builds... though as natty said the new testers are for last-stage testing. So we should all be happy; the release are coming closer .. and the new asses which became testers wont stay for long.
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i grow tired of the sands of tunisia...
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Well some of the old trusted beta testers like Flippy Bear will stay as betatester for later builds... though as natty said the new testers are for last-stage testing. So we should all be happy; the release are coming closer .. and the new asses which became testers wont stay for long.
Can I quote you? :-)
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Oh btw quick question, will we see any other heavy equipment apart from the 2/6 pounders and mybe a 25 pounder? I know we havent seen or heard anything about this weapon yet, but perhaps we could see the one and only: 17 pdr AT gun? any thoughts?
there are no active 88 on that map only static wrecks.
ther are a few more (partly moveable) 6pdrs on that map that server well enough as anti tanks for the canadians. they also got some shermans and piat.
so german tanks are not that big of a thread if they come without infantry support.
also the map might look narrow but keep in mind this is a big map, i never had the feeling of any nadespawm or something like that.
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
Hours? sir you are wrong, its Days :-\
I have made my second lightmapping ever!, took me 34 Minutes for the map im makin.
But a dude talked me in xfire and for some reason, the editor crashed while saving..
But really, i would like to be a Betatester, Paradox Interactive almost picked me as an Hearts of Iron 3 Betatester.. sadly i lost duh.
So asking something, will Fuchs and these guys, they will be betatester forever? or just for Normandy?
IT would cool if you could pick random people for future releases, intead of the same everything.
*runs away*
Well some of the old trusted beta testers like Flippy Bear will stay as betatester for later builds... though as natty said the new testers are for last-stage testing. So we should all be happy; the release are coming closer .. and the new asses which became testers wont stay for long.
I am Happy :)
Oh, why theres a lighting in the sky? is that a bad sign?
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I am Happy :)
Oh, why theres a lighting in the sky? is that a bad sign?
Hmm.. 'been actually a while since we got any dream-crushing memos... Maybe there is sunny light at the end of this tunnel, and Lightning's fetching the champaign himself...
And I think all the devs deserve too at this point, you've made a solid mod, in my oppinion comparable to any commerial game in quality - Can't wait to hear all those new improved engine sounds, big guns and see those lovely french landscapes being devastated in late-war battle
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Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
Hours? sir you are wrong, its Days :-\
I have made my second lightmapping ever!, took me 34 Minutes for the map im makin.
But a dude talked me in xfire and for some reason, the editor crashed while saving..
But really, i would like to be a Betatester, Paradox Interactive almost picked me as an Hearts of Iron 3 Betatester.. sadly i lost duh.
So asking something, will Fuchs and these guys, they will be betatester forever? or just for Normandy?
IT would cool if you could pick random people for future releases, intead of the same everything.
*runs away*
Well some of the old trusted beta testers like Flippy Bear will stay as betatester for later builds... though as natty said the new testers are for last-stage testing. So we should all be happy; the release are coming closer .. and the new asses which became testers wont stay for long.
I am Happy :)
Oh, why theres a lighting in the sky? is that a bad sign?
Hey! Don't crush my dreams to be a betatester - there's place for only one dreamcrusher in this forum. ;)
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2.2 is so much fun with 64 people.
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I will stop quotes, avoid making a big Quote Wall.
Well, come back to testing then, i saw you where playing on the FH2 Test Server, Lebisey, back to work.
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The reason I havent been playing anything for a while is that people are retards, and playing BF mods feels like stuffing myself in a room full of 63 retards who can't play the mod and appreciate it.
That is why I want to Beta Teat, because modders have brains and the public dosn't. They are ruining my experience.
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The reason I havent been playing anything for a while is that people are retards, and playing BF mods feels like stuffing myself in a room full of 63 retards who can't play the mod and appreciate it.
That is why I want to Beta Teat, because modders have brains and the public dosn't. They are ruining my experience.
Are you calling me an idiot.
Sir...
Dude, just check for squads called Teamplay or VOIP, in the first days of FH2, public release, there was alot of teamwork.
I dont think they would give you the beta because "You want to play as an organized team", or join FHT.
http://www.forgottenhonor.com/modules.php?name=Forums
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Join a tournam... o wait, I forgot, you don't want to subject yourself to rules. Well in that case you're not that different from the public population.
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@Warrior:
If you spam around at the testings like on public, you don't deserve it to be tester.
And the new testers wasn't picked randomly, they were recommended. And it seems that no one recommended you. Also you say you want teamplay, but why do you say that tournaments like FHT suck?
All the guys want to be a tester, and I'm glad that I was picked as one. But if the devs would take all the guys, the risk that someone leaks anything would be higher. And only "good" guys were recommended, so if you no one recommended you, that maybe had a reason, maybe you are just an asshole, or the people don't know about you.
I know that I'll loose my place as a tester when 2.2 is out, but please, let me and all the other guys enjoy it right now, and don't cry that you aren't a tester.
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Oh btw quick question, will we see any other heavy equipment apart from the 2/6 pounders and mybe a 25 pounder? I know we havent seen or heard anything about this weapon yet, but perhaps we could see the one and only: 17 pdr AT gun? any thoughts?
there are no active 88 on that map only static wrecks.
ther are a few more (partly moveable) 6pdrs on that map that server well enough as anti tanks for the canadians. they also got some shermans and piat.
so german tanks are not that big of a thread if they come without infantry support.
also the map might look narrow but keep in mind this is a big map, i never had the feeling of any nadespawm or something like that.
Sounds good to me :)
Lightmapping is the easy part! All you gotta do is put in your desired settings into the editor and sit back and relax!
and watch the computer lag to pieces for 3 hours straight :P.
Nice update and Congrats to the Developers being accepted a special one to Sorken the Ikea lover :D .
Hours? sir you are wrong, its Days :-\
I have made my second lightmapping ever!, took me 34 Minutes for the map im makin.
But a dude talked me in xfire and for some reason, the editor crashed while saving..
But really, i would like to be a Betatester, Paradox Interactive almost picked me as an Hearts of Iron 3 Betatester.. sadly i lost duh.
So asking something, will Fuchs and these guys, they will be betatester forever? or just for Normandy?
IT would cool if you could pick random people for future releases, intead of the same everything.
*runs away*
Well some of the old trusted beta testers like Flippy Bear will stay as betatester for later builds... though as natty said the new testers are for last-stage testing. So we should all be happy; the release are coming closer .. and the new asses which became testers wont stay for long.
So in other words, there more or less stress testers.
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I can smell a release coming this way.
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Just got back from vacation and wow awsome update, even glad to see that Megaraptors post didn't go unnoticed in the bug reporting forum and the correct Canadian flags are being used in game (even though the minimap still shows the red leafed ones, green leaves are historically correct from what megaraptor has siad) :)
Just one comment, I always never really liked those flag poles in the middle of the streets and all, it just kinda too away from the immersion of the map. That why i LOVED it when the devs figured out how to make them hanging off buildings and what not. And i just think that this map could use just a tad more of that... Other than that tho this map looks and sounds amazing, yay Canada! and I can't wait for 2.2 keep up the great work devs.
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2.2 is so much fun with 64 people.
Oh god stop teasing us! I cant stand it! :P
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Let me just say in conclusion of this discussion concerning all the new, temporary betatesters:
Good work picking them (no sarcasm) everyone I've noticed that have become a tester deserves it and should do a great job as one. (even the forums own little spammer Fuchs, he can get really dedicated to a cause. That's my experience of him at least)
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Let me just say in conclusion of this discussion concerning all the new, temporary betatesters:
Good work picking them (no sarcasm) everyone I've noticed that have become a tester deserves it and should do a great job as one. (even the forums own little spammer Fuchs, he can get really dedicated to a cause. That's my experience of him at least)
yay! for the testers how we wish we where them(in fh2 terms only :p). i can only hope the testers enjoyed there experince and will let us and show us where all the pretty new toyz are. once again awsome update and hope theres a ford or two to cross. :D
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Oh im so happy that i fixed it!
Now i can smile when i see a update ::) ;D
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I can smell a release coming this way.
Sorry but if you just had the power to look behind the scenes and see all the work that is left. I don't see a release coming before autumn '09.
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Testing issent very easy.I am a tester on the C&C Renegade mod "Reborn". And trust me, it aint easy always.We are atm trying to balance the units, and god it can be nervewrecking on the Discussion we get from that
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Let me just say in conclusion of this discussion concerning all the new, temporary betatesters:
Good work picking them (no sarcasm) everyone I've noticed that have become a tester deserves it and should do a great job as one. (even the forums own little spammer Fuchs, he can get really dedicated to a cause. That's my experience of him at least)
Oooh, I totally missed this post, thanks for the kind words Teddyzweig!
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I can smell a release coming this way.
Sorry but if you just had the power to look behind the scenes and see all the work that is left. I don't see a release coming before autumn '09.
Hush you! If you keep misleading them like that they'll think that next week's release is some kind of joke.
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Hush you! If you keep misleading them like that they'll think that next week's release is some kind of joke.
Quoi? Irony?
BTW: Great update, as always!
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I can smell a release coming this way.
Sorry but if you just had the power to look behind the scenes and see all the work that is left. I don't see a release coming before autumn '09.
Hush you! If you keep misleading them like that they'll think that next week's release is some kind of joke.
Kuba, edit your post quick! Stupid leaker :-X
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I know you guys are enjoying it, but please stay fair to the others.
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Pft, like you never did that to us N24.
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Au contrair mon ami, I never boast and I never give timeframes. As the devs don't do this as well.
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Well, you did by saying that the patch is coming out this year... probably. Anyway we go hush hush and back to work. Sooo much content to double check. ;)
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(http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/nothing_to_see_here.jpg)
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Stop teasing us with upcoming patches. Don't say anyting if there's nothing real coming! GRR! >:(
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Just enjoy what you're getting - Its the journey that is worthwhile, the destination is just a logical conclusion
We got 2.2, we play a bit, begin whining about 2.25... So guys, just chillax
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Just enjoy what you're getting - Its the journey that is worthwhile, the destination is just a logical conclusion
We got 2.2, we play a bit, begin whining about 2.25... So guys, just chillax
And that whats makes the world go round!
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@Warrior:
If you spam around at the testings like on public, you don't deserve it to be tester.
And the new testers wasn't picked randomly, they were recommended. And it seems that no one recommended you. Also you say you want teamplay, but why do you say that tournaments like FHT suck?
All the guys want to be a tester, and I'm glad that I was picked as one. But if the devs would take all the guys, the risk that someone leaks anything would be higher. And only "good" guys were recommended, so if you no one recommended you, that maybe had a reason, maybe you are just an asshole, or the people don't know about you.
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4558/highfive.jpg)
I had to :P
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Was just checking out Game Monitor and I noticed a new map in the UK FH2 Test Server "Operation Totalize", ever curious I went to wikipedia...
I'll just leave this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Totalize
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good job gumshoe - Keep tailing that lead and report back at 0800 - Ring thrice,2 short, one long - Got it?
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good job gumshoe - Keep tailing that lead and report back at 0800 - Ring thrice,2 short, one long - Got it?
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5896/vlcsnap2009071923h00m10.png)
Jawohl mein general!
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Was just checking out Game Monitor and I noticed a new map in the UK FH2 Test Server "Operation Totalize", ever curious I went to wikipedia...
I'll just leave this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Totalize
It's been on there awhile, alongside with "Anctoville"
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It's been on there awhile, alongside with "Anctoville"
All I can find on "Anctoville" is:
a.) It's a commune in the Calvados department in the Basse-Normandie region in northwestern France.
b.) There is a mission in Call of Duty 2 based there.
If the Call of Duty 2 version is anything to go by then I think it's a safe bet that it will be a Great Britain versus Germany infantry based map, much like Tunis.
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It's been on there awhile, alongside with "Anctoville"
All I can find on "Anctoville" is:
a.) It's a commune in the Calvados department in the Basse-Normandie region in northwestern France.
b.) There is a mission in Call of Duty 2 based there.
If the Call of Duty 2 version is anything to go by then I think it's a safe bet that it will be a Great Britain versus Germany infantry based map, much like Tunis.
Or another Canadian map eh? :D
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sigh, wish I was a bet0r test0r... I put in soo many Fh2 hours nothing slips my net, not even the weird flag defend super-points for DAK if they capture Tel el Makh Khad. Super sigh, just wants it... pwease!
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Was just checking out Game Monitor and I noticed a new map in the UK FH2 Test Server "Operation Totalize", ever curious I went to wikipedia...
I'll just leave this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Totalize
Would be nice to see one of those PaK 43 used in that battle, but i doubt we will. Anyway looks that lots of beautiful are maps coming.
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It is so funny how you guys are wondering about the maps. ;)
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Hey, about a week ago, you were too.
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It is so funny how you guys are wondering about the maps. ;)
Tell me more :D
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Hey, about a week ago, you were too.
Yeah that's true.
Tell me more :D
:-X
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Looks like there are even more maps...i'd think seven is plenty for a patch/update.
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2.2 is something much more than a patch/update. I guess there will be about 10 new maps included, just as 2.0.
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sigh, wish I was a bet0r test0r... I put in soo many Fh2 hours nothing slips my net, not even the weird flag defend super-points for DAK if they capture Tel el Makh Khad. Super sigh, just wants it... pwease!
Well you probably have a better chance than me Von, hell ive only been here a month at least :P
At the end of the day, its about how others see you on the forum. I suppose some of the time it is luck after all. I know I suck at trying to influence anything anyway lol.
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2.2 is something much more than a patch/update. I guess there will be about 10 new maps included, just as 2.0.
My guess is there will be about 5-8, leaving room for a patch with extra maps, vehicles, weapons, miscellaneous things ect...
The mod team aren't god(s)(I so wish they were though :P ) so they aren't going to whip out another four/five/six/ect maps for our pleasure with the limited time(I guess they have a deadline) they have.
Even though I hope they can get as much done I would rather have a small quantity of maps that are finished than a set of 'Beta'(possibly the wrong word for this) map's that have been rushed for our pleasure and fun.
So keep up the outstanding professional work, it's amazing that a group of people form the internet can combine and create such an outstanding mod, using there own time and for free! EA probably couldn't do this to save themselves, but it's known that most of them are noobs and don't understand what there community actually wants rather they create what they 'think' there community wants from there products.
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Trust me guys, there will be more than enough maps to ship that will have good replay value.
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Trust me guys, there will be more than enough maps to ship that will have good replay value.
I can see, they are playing now.
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Yeah, it was awesome.
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Saying awesome is not enough. Although I'd rather play on the winning side team. Those maps can be played in so many ways that africa's replay value cannot be compared in any way.
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All you temporary betas need to keep your mouths shut.
Seriously, for those of us who barely see full servers, this is no help. I recommend you keep your mouths shut and definitely don't bash the maps that we are stuck playing with until this vaunted Normandy campaign actually appears.
IMO It is disrespectful to be all spammy about how long your E-peen has become since you got a chance to play the new stuff. Enjoy your Beta test position but please stop rubbing it in our bloody faces.
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2.2 is something much more than a patch/update. I guess there will be about 10 new maps included, just as 2.0.
It may seem optimistic considering the amount shown, and how much time we THINK we have before a release, but you might be right
If we've seen 6maps ready to go, maybe even with AI support, and from the words going around there are another few being tested, then they might pick 2, 3 or even 4 of them that are considered ready by the 'deadline'... So I would say this MIGHT be accurate - Or maybe I'm also engaging in wistful thinking :-)
....they aren't going to whip out another four/five/six/ect maps for our pleasure with the limited time(I guess they have a deadline) they have.
I won't worry about that with Lobo @ the reigns... Even if it means deleting the already done contents and restarting just to shut us all up *LOL*
So keep up the outstanding professional work, it's amazing that a group of people form the internet can combine and create such an outstanding mod, using there own time and for free! EA probably couldn't do this to save themselves, but it's known that most of them are noobs and don't understand what there community actually wants rather they create what they 'think' there community wants from there products.
Total agree with the part regarding FH (The devs should get a team name at all, come on guys you deserve it) - Amazes me anytime I think about - For a guy like me who has to kick himself out of bed, it amazes me how they keep this up!
About the latter regarding DICE, not sure about that, don't forget with business structures, its actually possible to have your hands tied in order to meet the greater good rather than some wonderful wish for a game you may have as a developer which may cost sponsors more... I think I once heard someone comment that someone/ some people at DICE made a statement about FH being how BF42 should have been like
If that's true, its our sympathy they deserve, not out scorn - And they did make what I think is the most moddable game I've ever seen, albeit arcade gameplay
All you temporary betas need to keep your mouths shut.
Seriously, for those of us who barely see full servers, this is no help. I recommend you keep your mouths shut and definitely don't bash the maps that we are stuck playing with until this vaunted Normandy campaign actually appears.
IMO It is disrespectful to be all spammy about how long your E-peen has become since you got a chance to play the new stuff. Enjoy your Beta test position but please stop rubbing it in our bloody faces.
I may not feel as passionate about this as you, but I agree all the way - I think betatesters should consider themselves as behind-the-scenes personelle, consider yourself out of the citizen community until the mod is out so that all you say is what anyone without such knowledge would and nothing more - Not because its annoying, maybe for some it is, but becasue it really isn't your place - Especially if you are a recent addition -
No sound effects person should go talking to the press about the twists and surprises in a movie he is working on, eint his place... As much as I love info etc, please consult the devs before you say anything about 2.2... It saddens me when the dev team and auxillaries seem to differ on such an important thing especially in a community this much charged and tentioned by the anxiety of a release date - Not helping anyone
Take a queue from the devs and their devotion to the mod as though it were commercial even though it isn't -This is a duty you've taken on, not a privilege - Let's have a bit of professionalism here
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Just keep your chins up, my fellow public people. We have advantages that the new bet0rz don't have!
Such as, as their new-car smell from their testing wears off, ours will still be with us. We will also feel better killing them in our grand servers.
We can also expect the flood of posts when some may be left behind, according to Natty's post. ;)
Go community!
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I agree djinn I think I was bashing them a little hard after all, they have created some brilliant games(1942 and somewhat BF2).
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All you temporary betas need to keep your mouths shut.
Seriously, for those of us who barely see full servers, this is no help. I recommend you keep your mouths shut and definitely don't bash the maps that we are stuck playing with until this vaunted Normandy campaign actually appears.
IMO It is disrespectful to be all spammy about how long your E-peen has become since you got a chance to play the new stuff. Enjoy your Beta test position but please stop rubbing it in our bloody faces.
First of, you're overreacting. We're not rubbing in your faces with our e-peen the "new oh-ah so damn good still you can't see" attitude.
Second of all checking if all is working fine not letting enjoy yourself the game to the fullest is a major drawback. Also checking a map 4 hours straight grid by grid is the more tiering process than many of you may think. I bet you think otherwise - well trust me, it's a lot of work.
So if any other frsh test0r says how wonderfull it is don't bash them. Somehow when the ol'betas were teasing you it was all fine but now it isn't? Don't worry. You'll get your precious normandy with less bugs than we got - fresh and shiny. And you don't have to wait long (coming soon sign and massive btester recruitment?). So put your envy in the pocket and let us new guys be glad
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Its not that you are per se - But it can be misconstrued so simply because if y'all haven't noticed this place has become a bit of a powder keg.
Every newsupdate recently is met with mixed emotion becuase its both a welcome and reminder of what all are waiting for
Its just about treading lightly is all... But the fact about revealing stuff holds too - Not about any particular post, but in general
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I kinda agree with the beta tester thing. First of all it's a touchy issue. We've got lots of old timers here that have pretty much supported the mod from day one who are not beta testers -- remember that. Their are lots of people getting positions that haven't been around for even half the time that some of us have that really enjoy rubbing it in everyone's face, even if that's not their intention.
Just keep that in mind -- just because you're a beta tester doesn't necessarily mean you've supported the mod more than everyone else. This is one of those communities that goes back a while and its those people you have to be careful around, not just the new comers who really want to play the mod.
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Not that being an old timer means you've contributed either. :P
Can't think of anything I've done for this community... feels good, man.
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Not that being an old timer means you've contributed either. :P
Can't think of anything I've done for this community... feels good, man.
Well yea of course. I'm just saying its frustrating at times to have people pointlessly brag about their position.
Hell, I dont have any issues if testers leak some tasty info. I'm all ears for that, but saying "well I think I'm gonna go... gotta play some 2.2!!!" is just plain aggravating.
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I dont feel bad for that, they are doing their job... i respect them. You should respect them too, everyone should, because thanks to them we will get a Normandy whitout bugs or anything...
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This might sound callous, but it could be anyone...
So we a grateful, now can they shut up about it -
I understand that playing a buggy game tends to permanently remove its replayability value for you, even when its finally released - I respect that - That is a sacrifice, but still, descretion
Its like running a country, you can't do things that might aggravate and expect everyone to be understadable - It doesn't work that way. That's why we have the term masses - Don't expect much positive from the general population. Even if they don't snap at you, the bTs, they may pour out at the poor devs with a 'release now, we know its playable, we don't need perfection' stupid line. And no one needs that. The oldies might not moan or groan that easy, but it still wears people down. And trust me, I've seen some of em snap - It eint pretty
Imagine you come from a long day's work, things were 'comme-ci-comme-ca', you are tired, stressed, you just want to play FH2, tired of the desert but go ahead cuz that's all you have, endure a crappy game with noobsa and smacktards, go to forum to suggest something to improve gameplay or just want to feel at home with the community, then this guy gets up and comments about how 2.2 is way better than 2.15... Do I need ot proceed?
All should be descrete, iits about the greater good.
Ours as fans is try to stay calm, be patient, supportive even with the external pressures
The bTs need to be descrete - Its a tough call, but like the fans, you volunteered. Rinse your face, oil your hair, suck it up and keep up the good job... or quit!
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btw, at the moment there is "Operation Totalize" and "Operation Cobra" on the server (+5 maps we already know).
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5...or 6?
8 maps is a happy number I think -
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I think we should expect Operation Cobra to be in, as the player models for that specific map are in. Right?
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By that logic, we should expect a sea map to be in too - As the Submarine is in - Has been since 2.0
I was actually hoping for an air battle with 2.2 - Just figured - Battle of Britain maybe... But the modeling of airplanes has not been forthcoming
So no omaha?!!! Whaaa!!!! :'(
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I was actually hoping for an air battle with 2.2 - Just figured - Battle of Britain maybe... But the modeling of airplanes has not been forthcoming
There wasn't much air battles in Normandy, just Prillers famous two plane strafe and some KG 54 attacks to british beachheads.
I think BoB will come with fall of france campaign.
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Kinda, but there is an actual map in the works with the playermodels and they are generally a bigger deal than "just another vehicle", however cool it might be.
(This was in response to djinn)
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All you temporary betas need to keep your mouths shut.
Seriously, for those of us who barely see full servers, this is no help. I recommend you keep your mouths shut and definitely don't bash the maps that we are stuck playing with until this vaunted Normandy campaign actually appears.
IMO It is disrespectful to be all spammy about how long your E-peen has become since you got a chance to play the new stuff. Enjoy your Beta test position but please stop rubbing it in our bloody faces.
First of, you're overreacting. We're not rubbing in your faces with our e-peen the "new oh-ah so damn good still you can't see" attitude.
Second of all checking if all is working fine not letting enjoy yourself the game to the fullest is a major drawback. Also checking a map 4 hours straight grid by grid is the more tiering process than many of you may think. I bet you think otherwise - well trust me, it's a lot of work.
So if any other frsh test0r says how wonderfull it is don't bash them. Somehow when the ol'betas were teasing you it was all fine but now it isn't? Don't worry. You'll get your precious normandy with less bugs than we got - fresh and shiny. And you don't have to wait long (coming soon sign and massive btester recruitment?). So put your envy in the pocket and let us new guys be glad
No it's not ok because you new guys got the spot for no reason, well at least some of you like aggroman wtf...
Well I and alot others are whineing... ofc, but having you guys teasing us is like putting salt in our wounds..
Luckely we'll have our revange "Coming Soon"
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"Comming soon in 2009" to be precise ;D
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They didn't get the spot for no reason eLander, they were suggested by someone...
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No reason?
http://www.bf2-inside.de/thread.php?threadid=9238&sid=
Also I show up in the IRC, I'm supporting FH2 whenever I can, and I'm playing for a long time now, on public and also in FHT.
Ok, but then I don't deserve it, it's your choice.
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Quit spamming my thread you lot.
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No reason?
http://www.bf2-inside.de/thread.php?threadid=9238&sid=
I don't speak german, what does it say in that thread?
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Nothing special, I just wrote a news for that community, that contains everything that came after the german playermodels to the american models.
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nice map :D
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great news!!!
Any [plans on making a Polish map for Falaise gap? You know Mont Ormel? http://battlefieldsww2.50megs.com/falaise_pocket_mont_ormel.htm
"Following Operation Bluecoat, and the failed German counter-attack at Mortain, the Americans advanced and took Alencon then Argentan. At the same time the Canadians took Falaise. The Germans began retreating through the ground between Trun and Chambois. A 'pocket' was created when Trun was taken, and the Allies met up in Chambois. In the middle were the Germans, being mercilessly pounded by artillery and airstrikes. The only escape route was across Hill 262 - Montormel - and General Maczek's Polish Armoured Division, part of the Canadian Corps, occupied the positions on Hill 262 North on 19th August blocking the main route for the escaping Germans. Now isolated, the Poles waited for relief and support from the Canadians. Over the next few days bitter fighting took place on what the Polish later called the 'Maczuga' (the 'Mace' - Hill 262 itself). On many occasions the Germans penetrated the Polish perimeter. By 22nd August the 4th Canadian Armoured Division finally met up with the Poles, and the fighting was over.
Casualties had been heavy: the 1st Polish Armoured Division lost 325 killed, 1002 wounded and 114 missing - then about 20% of the units strength.
Today Montormel is a Polish Memorial site, with an excellent visitors centre, the Memorial de Montormel. The dead from the battle are buried in the Polish cemetery at Granville-Langannerie, on the road between Falaise and Caen."
here's a very nice link where You can read what happened on Mont Ormel, it's written by a Canadian :]
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37794
the outcome :
"The Balance-sheet of this fearful confrontation:
The Poles, who went into this fight with 87 Sherman tanks against all the remaining weaponry of the German Seventh army surrounded on the plain of Tournai ? Aubry ? St-Lambert, lost 325 dead, 16 of whom were officers, 1,002 wounded and 114 missing. Eleven tanks were destroyed.
The Germans had about 2,000 killed, 5,000 taken prisoner, including a general, six colonels and 80 officers. They left on the battlefield 55 tanks, of which 14 were Panthers and 6 Tigers, 44 guns and 152 armoured vehicles, 359 vehicles of all types were destroyed."
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The battle your talking about is commonly known as 'Hill 262'.
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My god what has this thread turned into!? Nice map guys. Lets hope these maps can get played with 64 people and tweaked accordingly so we can have release soon with balanced maps and full servers again.
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With some landmines, machine guns and snipers the bridge can be held forever.
I expect something like Mareth Line in the release.
Push map wouldn't work for this map I do agree. However I do think the last flag should not be "cappable" with less than 3 players and should have long capping time to prevent sneaking.
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Hey, there should maps with static anti-personelle landmines... Would add something I think
I think there is more than one way to cross that bridge... Shallow areas of that river
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Wasn't such faggotry solved in FH1 by putting barbed wire under the water surface? On Battle of the Bulge IIRC.
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well the bridge isn't the only place you can pass so... and we didnt want it to be either, it all depends on how the axis play. and 3 to cap... we have kind of realized the ineffective and simply put pointless feature this is.. first of all it is broken in its function (3 enters the capzone, flag starts going down, 2 leave the zone, flag still falls...), and second of all the engine allready have this limit: you always need more players than the enemy to cap a flag. If there are no defenders in the zone, well, the flag isnt theirs.
Push or no push is not the most important aspect. Interesting fights over the whole map from start to finish with an equal chance for both teams to win is. We add push when the mapper don't want certain flags to fall before others, we don't add it to control the players behaviour, as we know we can never ever do this. ;)
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Sounds like Mines mines mines and more mines(and PIATs) to me ;D
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It's been stated that AT mines are only found in pick-up kits.
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It's been stated that AT mines are only found in pick-up kits.
I know that :v
But thats the whole point 8)
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Sounds like Mines mines mines and more mines(and PIATs) to me ;D
Piat teams ambushing tanks..... dammit, now i seriously cant wait now lol.
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Same here. I was never impatient and always said "Well, it's a long way until release and that's fine with me" but recently I became a bit excited. All the talk about "final testing" and the new player models got me pretty hyped up. Now every news update could be the update (or so it seems) so I'm on the edge of my seat every wednesday. I had the same feeling before 2.0 was released.
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The final testing might take longer than we think, in case they discover some major bugs and/or balance issues.
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Two quotes:
Private Sugar Watkins: Gimme the nuke
Johnny Rico: You trying to be a hero, Watkins?
Private Sugar Watkins: Just trying to kill some bugs, sir.
Zander: [shocked] My God. How could this happen?
Carmen: We thought we were smarter than the Bugs.
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Two quotes:
Private Sugar Watkins: Gimme the nuke
Johnny Rico: You trying to be a hero, Watkins?
Private Sugar Watkins: Just trying to kill some bugs, sir.
Zander: [shocked] My God. How could this happen?
Carmen: We thought we were smarter than the Bugs.
lol ;D
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Two quotes:
Private Sugar Watkins: Gimme the nuke
Johnny Rico: You trying to be a hero, Watkins?
Private Sugar Watkins: Just trying to kill some bugs, sir.
Zander: [shocked] My God. How could this happen?
Carmen: We thought we were smarter than the Bugs.
Pvt. Hudson: Is this gonna be a standup fight, sir, or another bughunt?
Lt. Gorman: All we know is that there's still no contact with the colony, and that a xenomorph may be involved.
Pvt. Frost: Excuse me sir, a-a what?
Lt. Gorman: A xenomorph.
Cpl. Hicks: It's a bughunt.
Considering how that bughunt succeeded (as well as the above mentioned), I hope FH2 "Bug Stompers" manage a bit better... ;D
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I'm sorry to inform you, but the dev team and all betatester are being set under quarantine with immediate effect, I, having been on a outside reconnaissance mission, am their only link to the exterior world. However, although I cannot provide any further details, I want to assure all that there is ... is.. no serious threat to.. we... have everything under control. ... Ok, you can shut the camera off n-
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Shh...its the final preparation for Dday... Unlike the Germans we are aware that such a quarantine heralds the inevitable closeness of dday... Fellows of the non-dev\bt army, man your positions... Its about to get hairy
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(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/273322586_0a4a98481a.jpg)
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Sounds like Mines mines mines and more mines(and PIATs) to me ;D
don't forget, unlike in FH1, there are now SMOKE.
I could imagine 2-3 Squads of German Infantry, deploy an enormous smokescreen over the bridge, charge with loads of SMGs, rush into the so-called ambush , and mow down all Canadians...
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Or step on a mine..... ;D
Canadians with Brenguns>All
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People always seem to forget those pesky Anti Infantry mines, right until they actually step on one.... :P
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Or when you placed one, and some Jerry runs into one and your like=Yes!Hahaha!And a few secs later you step into one urself
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When the enemy runs into my mine I feel relief it wasn't a friendly.
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wait a minute... it's wednesday! Update?
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Give the devs a break with those every week updates.
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No update today.
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Oh well :-[ it just means that there will be a great update next week then, eh? ;D
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He didn't rule it out being tomorrow! ;D
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So is there any chances to get polish units at that map? Snake have wroten really great info for you all but nobody seems to care. Historically that map should include polish or american units because germans were trying to get out from siege through their lines. Dont get me wrong, I respect every nation which were fighting at WW2 but also I have no idea why germans would like to trying get through canadians forces. Canadians were attacking germans from the north and behind them were just beaches.
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1070/478pxfalaisepocketmapsv.png) (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/478pxfalaisepocketmapsv.png/)
That map clearly shows that Polish 1st Armoured Division was standing on the way of german's escape. Polish forces were fighting there alone, holding strategic hills untill 21 August when canadians have released them. You FH team have showed already that you respect fetch of individual nations. I really hope that you wont disappoint us this time.
Greetings for everybody ;)
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...You FH team have showed already that you respect fetch of individual nations. I really hope that you wont disappoint us this time.
Greetings for everybody ;)
Point taken, but unluckily the Polish forces haven't been made/shown yet so it is very unlikely that you will see them in 2.2.
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...You FH team have showed already that you respect fetch of individual nations. I really hope that you wont disappoint us this time.
Greetings for everybody ;)
Point taken, but unluckily the Polish forces haven't been made/shown yet so it is very unlikely that you will see them in 2.2.
Lies..............
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Lies? Do you now something we dont now?
And its doesnt matter that FH didnt made polish units. We was a part of british forces. We have been wearing british uniforms, equipment, and we have been using british tanks etc. Polish 1st Armoured Division was made by british in 1942 from polish soldiers who manage to escape from France in time ( a lot of polish soldiers made their escapes to France. Then they volunteered to french 10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade ( 10éme Brigade de cavalerie blindée ). After France fall, gen. Maczek and his 500 troops went through Tunis, Maroko and Portugal to get into Great Britain. ). You dont have to make totally new forces. You just need to make some polish plaquettes for soldiers and polish designation for tanks. That few simple things would make us really happy. I can clearly remember that there was FH1 map with Polish 1st Armoured Division.
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Lies? Do you now something we dont now?
And its doesnt matter that FH didnt made polish units. We was a part of british forces. We have been wearing british uniforms, equipment, and we have been using british tanks etc. Polish 1st Armoured Division was made by british in 1942 from polish soldiers who manage to escape from France in time ( a lot of polish soldiers made their escapes to France. Then they volunteered to french 10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade ( 10éme Brigade de cavalerie blindée ). After France fall, gen. Maczek and his 500 troops went through Tunis, Maroko and Portugal to get into Great Britain. ). You dont have to make totally new forces. You just need to make some polish plaquettes for soldiers and polish designation for tanks. That few simple things would make us really happy. I can clearly remember that there was FH1 map with Polish 1st Armoured Division.
QFT
This would be really great to have Polish forces on that map. Even though I think polish designations for vehicles are a bit too much work atm, polish re-skin of british uniform shouldn't be anything that takes very long time. Don't you guys think so?
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Considering that we have the camo uniform for US forces for (supposedly) one map only, doing shoulder patches, vehicle markings and similar small changes for another map does not sound like too much work.
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Fascinating how you all know how much work it is to skin player models!?
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Pfft I could skin the whole US-Army with one hand tied to my back.
On a slightly more serious note: I seem to remember that someone posted files he found in 2.15. They had names of some new stuff including "Firefly_polish" or something.
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No, there is no file with "firefly_polish".
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I'm quite sure there was something, but it's quite hazy tbh.
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cromwell_polish
I read that in some file too
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Yes, that one is already ported from FH0.7, or easier said: it already existed before FH2 even started :P
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Thank you [F|H]Spit for your support. I hope that FH team will look positive on this issue like you did. BTW I am not expert regarding at skinning, modeling etc. but there is not really much work with polish soldiers. All you need is make 2 polish plaquettes ( one for soldiers and one for officers ) and write few polish names on the tanks. Whole the rest are already made ( or ll be made. I mean british equipment ).
Referring to Fuchs post, that might be black humor if polish troops wont be at FH2 considering that they were at FH 0.7 :(
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I do not say anything about them being in or out, I'm just stating something about the Polish Cromwell.
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I do not say anything about them being in or out, I'm just stating something about the Polish Cromwell.
Anyway FH 0.7 had plenty of map with polish soldiers.
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Fall Weiss and Eastern Blitz. Is that a plenty? ;)
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Fall Weiss and Eastern Blitz. Is that a plenty? ;)
There was 2 maps more. One called "Westerplatte" and one where Polish 1st Armoured Division must capt. some german city and german outpost.
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Those werent official thought, thus never seen in regular server rotations.
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Eastern Blitz was a true masterpiece of mapping, though. Wide open fields, urban combat and air superiority seamlessly blended together, and all using early war equipment. It gave the Poles a map worthy of representing their campaign.
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Alright, back from Côte d'Azur ;)
Great map, looks a bit more damped, which I like very much.
But, where is ze airfields? Or maybe you have spawnable lawn mowers which can make out runways in the meadows?
Perhaps this particular map is a bit tight for aeroplanes but can't see too many airfields on the other maps.
Otherwise fantastic.
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Well, there are none so... though crap.
btw: Update tonight? :D
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The map is not that large and it's already intense as infantry/tank so why add planes? Would end up flying above the German main killing all tanks and raping infantry on the ground.
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The map is not that large and it's already intense as infantry/tank so why add planes? Would end up flying above the German main killing all tanks and raping infantry on the ground.
Something bad about that? ;D Except ofcourse it would be FW's strafing the brits.
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Theres this thing called gameplay, ever heard of it? Seems that raping/camping can ruin it :-\
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I wasn't very serious when I said that, anyways I was more referring to the other maps shown so far.
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My good friend send my this pic. He said that it would help you all to understand why polish soldiers should be on that map:
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/93/falaisepocketgermancoun.png) (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/falaisepocketgermancoun.png/)
And indeed. If germans will attack anybody on this map to break some defending lines it should be poles because of character of this map and the largeness of polish battle . You might think that I saying all that because of my nationality? Then check out this sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falaise_pocket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262
And according to valued military historian Gregor Dallas: "The Poles had closed the Falaise Pocket. The Poles had opened the gate to Paris." On the 20th anniversary of Falaise, former President Dwight D. Eisenhower, commented: "No other battlefield presented such a horrible sight of death, hell, and total destruction."
Besides that, famous historian Norman Davies always mentioning poles and their fetch is his books if he talking about Normandy. I just cant invent anything more to convict you. And I want to disrespect anything or anybody. If you'll would create map where canadians are the offensive side I'll agree with you. Jugde it by yourself.
Greetings for everybody ;)
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If you read the map description in the news update, it mentions that this map features the town of St. Lambert. If you look at your map, you will see that this town is right on the very edge of the Canadian held part of the line. The map does not show the gap which was closed by the Poles, but the Northern edge of the gap, which was held by the Canadians.
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Putting Canadians in this map is not mistake, this map is about fighting for St.Lambert.
Mistake is calling it Falaise Pocket, as Gryf wrote "The Poles had closed the Falaise Pocket".
Battle near St.Lambert was not the most important fights in Falaise pocket.
I think we need new map: Battle for Mont Ormel / Hill 262
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262)
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwa_o_Mont_Ormel (http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwa_o_Mont_Ormel)
Antoni Stefaowicz, commander of defence in hill 262 said this in night 20/21 of August
"Gentlemen. Everything is lost. I do not believe [the] Canadians will manage to help us. We have only 110 men left, with 50 rounds per gun and 5 rounds per tank… Fight to the end! To surrender to the SS is senseless, you know it well. Gentlemen! Good luck – tonight, we will die for Poland and civilization. We will fight to the last platoon, to the last tank, then to the last man"
When canadian forces came to polish positions in hill 262, one soldier wrote this:
"View of Hill 262 was the most bleek which our Regiment has had the opportunity to see. Poles for three days were deprived of any supply. They had hundreds of wounded who have not been evacuated. Approximately 700 prisoners were guarded on battlefield . The road was blocked of burned Polish and German vehicles. Everywhere were scattered unburried corpses and human remains... Poles cries when they saw us..."
This battle was the most important in history of 1Dp Gen. Maczka, for poles is like Battle for Brittain, Stalingrad, or other heroic battles. Polish community in FH2 is quite big according to Canadian, thats why are disappointed that there is no Polish battle in Normandy. Hope we will see it in relase after 2.2 ;).
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If you want a real map about Falaise Pocket you should have Canadians, Free French, Poles, Britons and Yanks vs Germans. And all the Germans would be hiding and trying to get out of the encirclement while the Allies wait at the edge of the map and let the Typhoons and other fighterbombers do the dirty job.
But thats not the case, this is just the breakthrough at St. Lambert. Sorry guys, no Poles on this map. But there is always hope!
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But there is always hope!
Lightning, that's your cue!
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I am trying to create some hope, hope is so low last weeks that Lightning is almost starving, he needs another sacrifice!
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My good friend send my this pic. He said that it would help you all to understand why polish soldiers should be on that map
I think your there could be a way to just zoom in to that piece of battle, they must have fought hard because they had Germans in the back and in the front.. Especially from the back with those two SS divisions
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The 1st AD were fighting against reminants of those 2 ss panzer divisions IIRC. The Canadian closed the gap and linked up with the polish therefore it's the falaise pocket.
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I am 100% that the next update will have something we all have been waiting for
I mean, it has been 2 weeks!
I just know it!Or long waiting will be over!!
The M101 howitzer!
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The release date with mew stuff :P
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That would mean release on Saturday, September 1th 2009, 70 year anniversary of the war in Europe's beginning.
Nah, they are most likely not ready yet. They've only been testing for 2 weeks with the larger testing team afaik. Give it another month :P
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that would be an awful release day because i am not at home that day
also i think release is "usually" Fridays (passworded torrent usually 3 days before) so you can play the whole weekend.
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also i think release is "usually" Fridays (passworded torrent usually 3 days before) so you can play the whole weekend.
Wednesday - start torrent
Thursday - download complete, seed
Friday - leave computer to seed, away drinking
Saturday - install, play for an hour, away drinking
Sunday - wake up in the afternoon, play until late evening
Monday - wake up in the morning; realize you completely forgot to eat, shit and shower the previous day, feel completely burned out
Rest of the year: feed your addiction (and whine on the forums).
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also i think release is "usually" Fridays (passworded torrent usually 3 days before) so you can play the whole weekend.
Wednesday - start torrent
Thursday - download complete, seed
Friday - leave computer to seed, away drinking
Saturday - install, play for an hour, away drinking
Sunday - wake up in the afternoon, play until late evening
Rest of the year: feed your addiction (and whine on the forums).
On those parts, i agree :)
But i cant play 1 hour straight, i just have to do something else
When 2.15 was released, i loved Mareth line, so when mareth line was over, i went to the Pub, or slept till it was back on
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also i think release is "usually" Fridays (passworded torrent usually 3 days before) so you can play the whole weekend.
Wednesday - start torrent
Thursday - download complete, seed
Friday - leave computer to seed, away drinking
Saturday - install, play for an hour, away drinking
Sunday - wake up in the afternoon, play until late evening
Monday - wake up in the morning; realize you completely forgot to eat, shit and shower the previous day, feel completely burned out
Rest of the year: feed your addiction (and whine on the forums).
haha, sounds like a plan to me ;)
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Wow i never tought that someting i bring up about Poland will see a continuation lol. I stopped trying after many failed attempts in the past.Any way, something offtopic,
ORPGRyf - British nor French never created Polish units during WWII, it was always attempt of Polish generals , government in exile and officers ,a hard work.As an example- Gen Maczek's armored units in FRance 1940, and 1 Armored Division that was created in Scottland in 1942 :]British and French always have seen Poles as a problem, until they started to fight ;p then all were in AVE for Polish soldiers.
. Canadians fought germans, and there is no doubt about this, however they were not the last element in the gap, preventing Germans from escaping.Battle for hill 262 (mont ormel) that is the story of the soldiers who were this last element.
You tube wont work at my PC right now, dunno why.But You can see a movie "Lost evidence-Liberation of Paris" there is a story about this decisive few days long battle on hill 262.At the same time other part of 1Polish Armored Division fought in Chambois and made contact with US troops.
As for Polish army in FH2, Falaise Gap.Needed things are: armpatches for Polish soldiers, voice commands for Polish soldiers, and reskin of the vehicles for use by Poles.No new modeling required! only reskinning and offcourse making a propper map :] called Mont Ormel or Battle for hill 262.I know Omni will gladly make reskins of the vehicles :] right Omni? Too bad I haven't seen prvt.Allen for a long time here, he could made a map :] anyyone remembers his carentan map?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Nullamere/WWII/ResizeofRotationofWP024.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Nullamere/WWII/ResizeofRotationofWP023.jpg)
and General Maczek himself
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Nullamere/WWII/Resizeofphoto003.jpg)
Armpatch for 1 Armored Division, hussar wing
(http://www.greendevils.pl/polacy/maczek/odznaka_1DPanc_2.gif)
black&white wersion (only colored one is original)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/1_pancerna_gen_Maczka.gif)
regular red "Poland" armpatch, these are originals :] in my posession
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Nullamere/WWII/ResizeofObraz054.jpg)
a map of the events
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Falaise_Pocket_German_Counterattack.png)
MOnte Ormel view
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Mont_Ormel.jpg
short story
"Gentlemen. Everything is lost. I do not believe [the] Canadians will manage to help us. We have only 110 men left, with 50 rounds per gun and 5 rounds per tank… Fight to the end! To surrender to the SS is senseless, you know it well. Gentlemen! Good luck – tonight, we will die for Poland and civilization. We will fight to the last platoon, to the last tank, then to the last man."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262
This site is really nice!!
http://montormel.evl.pl/?id=69
(http://montormel.evl.pl/zdj/Image/f7_7.jpg)
oh, call of duty 3 has this map :] with Poles on it.
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Thanks H2HSnake! ;)
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Making polish army isn`t wery hard i think:
-Take british playermodel
-replace armpatch
-Import fh1 sounds
-polish cromwell is ready [yes they are in game [2.2]]
-take sherman and coppy/paste rear of cromewell
-make new map [the hardest thing to do]
I never used 3dmax ect. But making writing yellow "poland" on red background and paste it to british playermodel can`t be so hard! The same goes with sherman.
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Making polish army isn`t wery hard i think:
-Take british playermodel
-replace armpatch
-Import fh1 sounds
-polish cromwell is ready [yes they are in game [2.2]]
-take sherman and coppy/paste rear of cromewell
-make new map [the hardest thing to do]
I never used 3dmax ect. But making writing yellow "poland" on red background and paste it to british playermodel can`t be so hard! The same goes with sherman.
Indeed mr obvious. :)
(No it was not meant to be offensive)
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Making polish army isn`t wery hard i think:
-Take british playermodel
-replace armpatch
-Import fh1 sounds
-polish cromwell is ready [yes they are in game [2.2]]
-take sherman and coppy/paste rear of cromewell
-make new map [the hardest thing to do]
I never used 3dmax ect. But making writing yellow "poland" on red background and paste it to british playermodel can`t be so hard! The same goes with sherman.
Indeed modding is so easy, anyone can do it. Jump on and help the team! :)
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Sarcasm aside, what Cin3k33 meant was probably that changing the armpatch on an uniform or lettering on a tank should be easier than making a complete 3D model and complete skin of an uniform or a tank.
An example: IL-2 Forgotten Battles (for which I have made skins myself, although not for public use), if you created your own skins first as "layers" in PSP or Photoshop, and only combined them into bitmap when you wanted to import the skin in-game, it was a relatively easy task to edit the "insignia" layer only, leaving "warpaint", "rivets & seams" & "weathering" layers alone. However, to get into the point where you COULD start playing with insignia (ie. you had a good-looking custom skin, with good-looking colours, realistic weathering, not-too-intrusive rivet joints) took quite some time and effort. So much, in fact, that I am not even considering joining up for a modding team. :)
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Indeed modding is so easy, anyone can do it. Jump on and help the team! :)
Do you really think I meant that? I respect your work, know modeling is hard piece of sith.
I worked a lot with 2d graphics and cut/paste seems easy for me.
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Not my work, but I know what you mean.
I tried starting to model a while back with toddel's help, but practically I lost the 'mojo'.
I don't know where he musters the energy from, but I for my point am dead tired of CAD programs once I get off my RL work and don't even bother to game that much anymore.
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all of this is Easy if you know how to do. but all the things we have to do are easy. that means not that you do all easy things. You have to seperate and do only the things you really need.