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Title: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: [ret]azreal on 05-12-2010, 21:12:01
Updating coming in ~1 hour. Haven't come up with a title for this one yet. Also have some more news about the MOTY contest. (make sure to vote!)

Enjoy.
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english

EDIT: ok the title is The Duck Returns
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 21:12:37
Its the Black Hawks, isnt it?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Rawhide on 05-12-2010, 21:12:37
This shit will blow your minds!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: :| Hi on 05-12-2010, 21:12:34
This shit will blow your minds!

People are gonna like this one  ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Desertfox on 05-12-2010, 21:12:08
I kind of like my mind not blown, but I am interested.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 21:12:38
The duck

the duck

DUKW?

EDIT OOH I KNOW IT!

(http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2009/09/trollface.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 21:12:00
The duck

the duck

DUKW?

EDIT OOH I KNOW IT!

(http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2009/09/trollface.jpg)
I hope your right!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Nissi on 05-12-2010, 21:12:24
I hope this time it will blow our minds.  :P

The more often you say this, the higher the expectations.  8)

Thank you for your work Devs & Testers.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 21:12:11
I expect the BMW bike...*drools*.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 21:12:49
Unless... it means Duck Pattern Camo, hinting at the Pacific theater!  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Desertfox on 05-12-2010, 21:12:16
Unless... it means Duck Pattern Camo, hinting at the Pacific theater!  ;D
I really hope so
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Excavus on 05-12-2010, 21:12:20
First time I've found an update before it's actually posted.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 21:12:20
First time I've found an update before it's actually posted.
Haha, same here. I doubt it has anything to do with the "Ruptured Duck"...
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eat Uranium on 05-12-2010, 21:12:30
(http://www.niementehtaat.fi/boomi/kuvat/sotka_logo.gif)

Erm

(http://img.youtube.com/vi/woySeSNBL3o/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Desertfox on 05-12-2010, 21:12:25
Are you joking or is that a actual hint ???
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 21:12:55
Okay, my last guess is the Grumman J2F Duck, that's all I got.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 21:12:36
Okay, my last guess is the Grumman J2F Duck, that's all I got.
same here

It has to be it

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: NTH on 05-12-2010, 21:12:46
Rheinuebung ?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 05-12-2010, 21:12:38
Just to make thing clear, i expect Sotka's, aka T-34's.

(sotka is finnish for a certain duck species)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 21:12:27
(http://www.niementehtaat.fi/boomi/kuvat/sotka_logo.gif)

Erm

Do you mean...
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/image002.gif)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/donaldcondom2.jpg)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/0002b8pb.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eglaerinion on 05-12-2010, 21:12:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpfRYy2RsY

They are here!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: [ret]azreal on 05-12-2010, 21:12:14
alright, alright, keep the spam to a minimum please.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 21:12:08
alright, alright, keep the spam to a minimum please.

Its very common to see this kind of thing in all the updates threads lol. But well, just 8 minutes remaining!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 05-12-2010, 21:12:30
DUKW hahaha
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: OlBloodnGuts on 05-12-2010, 21:12:23
5 min.... please be something good
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: SirGutz on 05-12-2010, 21:12:31
Duck
Jagdpanzer IV Guderian Ente  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Rawhide on 05-12-2010, 21:12:34
Told ya
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: OlBloodnGuts on 05-12-2010, 22:12:10
vonderful!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 05-12-2010, 22:12:35
german bias xD
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 05-12-2010, 22:12:53
awesome jagdpanzer 4  :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 05-12-2010, 22:12:01
jihaa!
Really good stuff. Like this strange looking vehicle. Its the most "wtf is zhis" tank of german ;)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: OlBloodnGuts on 05-12-2010, 22:12:31
Another German tank, a nice tank, but I'm really getting tired of german tanks, and tanks in general.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 22:12:58
Awww... just another tank.  :(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-12-2010, 22:12:23
What tank? I see no tank?

Trolololoo
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Oddball on 05-12-2010, 22:12:42
What tank? I see no tank?

Trolololoo
Tank Destroyer... same thing.  :-X Heavy Armor, happy?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 22:12:25
german bias xD
my words exactly

*looks at the list of crucial allied vehicles still missing
still
(http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 05-12-2010, 22:12:33
which version you build guys?? Looks to me like an early chassis with the long cannon.
Will it have the 60mm or 80mm front armour?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 22:12:45
HELL YEAH!!!!! Sexy Jagdpanzer IV. Just tell me we are going to see this beauty soon on Normandy.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: siben on 05-12-2010, 22:12:07
The last part of the discription, it feels incomplete to me.
Quote
In combat the Jagdpanzer performed exceptionally well in its intended role in Normandy, the Battle of the Bulge, and on the Eastern Front. However, when it was used as a replacement for tanks and assault guns, the Jagdpanzer The Sd.Kfz. 162 Jagdpanzer IV was modeled by Omni, with the texture done by AceS, and the wheels done by Toddel.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eat Uranium on 05-12-2010, 22:12:41
The last part of the discription, it feels incomplete to me.
Quote
[21:05]   <Eat_Uranium>   basically, it was only modelled by Omni because it was used as a replacement for tanks
[21:09]   <Flippy-Warbear>   haha
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Alakazou on 05-12-2010, 22:12:11
Nice model as usual :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Butcher on 05-12-2010, 22:12:50
SEXY SEXY SEXY!
Finally! good to see the version with the panther cannon - germans need more of those guns, im sick of shermans standing shots xD.

thats 3 new tank destroyers for the germans now. i think we are out of german tanks for now (i know there are still nashorn and stuff) - but with these 3 i think the most important vehicles finally are all in. good work.

have you yet decided on which NORMANDY maps you want to put it in (eg. in which operations it was used)?

now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 22:12:16


now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton

I would love to see some new german AT guns though

and allied ones
ye more allied stuff now
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 23:12:28
I would love to see some new german AT guns though

I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Desertfox on 05-12-2010, 23:12:50


now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton


Whenever I hear Sexton, i think some unclean thoughts. Nice model as usual, regular old quality work.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-12-2010, 23:12:40


now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton


Whenever I hear Sexton, i think some unclean thoughts. Nice model as usual, regular old quality work.
I always think it's in Swedish, something weighting six tons :P


Edit: Yes, nice model indeed.

I once made on of those myself ;D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/malleja/jp4l70_1.jpg

I would love to see some new german AT guns though

I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.

And I would love a 17 Pdr.
Quite so old boy. You can never have too many pheasants.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-12-2010, 23:12:55
I would love to see some new german AT guns though

I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.

And I would love a 17 Pdr.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Kradovech on 05-12-2010, 23:12:31
On a slightly different note, the past 3 updates have looked exactly the same at first glance, so people who just check the website and not the forums, probably didnt even there was a update. And missed the reminder about second round of voting as well.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 23:12:45
I would love to see some new german AT guns though

I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.

And I would love a 17 Pdr.
Indeed. I can think of several maps where it can be placed
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: silian on 05-12-2010, 23:12:25
*Cough*

It's not actually a Jagdpanzer IV

*cough*

Awesome nonetheless.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-12-2010, 23:12:07
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/Jagdpanzer%20IV70%20(V)/big.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/101205/jagdpanzer.jpg)

Heh, I like it how the renderer images are done exactly the same way.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Remdul on 06-12-2010, 00:12:07
You see what I did there. Extra points for Flippy.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Marder on 06-12-2010, 00:12:15
Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
 
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-12-2010, 00:12:57
Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
 
Honestly, what can the IV/48 do that the StuG 40 can't?  I don't think it would be very likely to see one ever.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Godall on 06-12-2010, 00:12:37
I knew that the Jagdpanzer IV will be! Fuck yea.... ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 06-12-2010, 00:12:23
So this was just a port from FH1? Looks really nice either way.

On to the next update.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: VonMudra on 06-12-2010, 00:12:30
Huzzah!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2010, 01:12:12
hipp hipp, hurraay for fh1 ports!


love the camo, just like i allways wanted to see a camuflaged jagdpanzer
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Excavus on 06-12-2010, 04:12:29
Another German Tank Destroyer. Can someone say...German Bias? We need some more crucial allied vehicles. But anyways it'll be a great addition to the FH2 motor pool.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Vernah on 06-12-2010, 04:12:17
Another German Tank Destroyer. Can someone say...German Bias? We need some more crucial allied vehicles. But anyways it'll be a great addition to the FH2 motor pool.

JUMBO SHERMAN RAWR
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Gl@mRock on 06-12-2010, 05:12:14
German bias... nah! It's just another big target.  8)
.....

As usual, nice update!  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Gezoes on 06-12-2010, 06:12:55
Nice, but let's have a few map updates.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: djinn on 06-12-2010, 06:12:57
Nice, but let's have a few map updates.

Totally
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Toddel on 06-12-2010, 08:12:58
Blame the allies for not have 100th of different Tanks.... ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: DLFReporter on 06-12-2010, 09:12:35
One of my favourite tanks. :)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: K.Cower on 06-12-2010, 13:12:44
Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Marder on 06-12-2010, 14:12:45
Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
 
Honestly, what can the IV/48 do that the StuG 40 can't?  I don't think it would be very likely to see one ever.
More low profile to ambush in Villers-Bocage  ;D. And of course more diversity.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Miklas on 06-12-2010, 14:12:43
Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.
Also periscope and headlights seem to be redone as well.

BTW, very nice update!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-12-2010, 14:12:30
And of course more diversity.
Diversity is bad, m'kay.

for your memory usage
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: [ret]azreal on 06-12-2010, 16:12:43
Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.

r-e-a-d the update, don't just look at the pictures.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: katakulli on 06-12-2010, 17:12:35
  Thanks for transfering the jagdpanzer from fh1  :-*  i hope you will also transfer brummbar   ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Paasky on 06-12-2010, 17:12:58
Can you transfer the Nashhorn and Pershing too?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2010, 17:12:03
  Thanks for transfering the jagdpanzer from fh1  :-*  i hope you will also transfer brummbar   ;D
OMG we forgot about the brumbar

Missing vehicles=
Brummbar
sherman 105
Sexton
priest

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Ahonen on 06-12-2010, 19:12:37
Seems like the MG won't be usable?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 06-12-2010, 19:12:50
Seems like the MG won't be usable?

Thats another variant Im afraid.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: VonMudra on 06-12-2010, 19:12:34
Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 06-12-2010, 19:12:47
Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.

I thought that only the L/70 and L/72 variants had the MG34. Surely we need one of those now or its gonna be too difficult to destroy the pesky infantry.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2010, 19:12:37
Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.

I thought that only the L/70 and L/72 variants had the MG34. Surely we need one of those now or its gonna be too difficult to destroy the pesky infantry.
I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.

Not like the lame Stug III ausf 40
Its a tank destroyer, not a regular tank
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 06-12-2010, 20:12:58
the mg is behind the metalcupola.
In the very early versions there were even 2 mgs :P  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Butcher on 06-12-2010, 20:12:15
Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull (not coax).

nonetheless the new Stug III is no fun to operate - they seem useless to me now.

as long as the Hetzer gets its 360° turnable top mg im happy.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: RAnDOOm on 06-12-2010, 20:12:58
Ahhhhh the Jagdpanzer IV.

Brings back memories.

Cool stuff.  8)
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 06-12-2010, 20:12:24
Quote
Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 06-12-2010, 20:12:11
I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.

Hey they had mg's. Would you like if the Pershing suddenly didnt had mg's at all? Or if the Sexton didnt had a 50 cal to protect from infantry?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-12-2010, 20:12:20
Lets analyse.

Did the JPz IV have an mg in FH1?

Is the model in FH2 the same as the model in FH1?

Using the above answers:
Will the JPz IV have an mg in FH2?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2010, 20:12:52
I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.

Hey they had mg's. Would you like if the Pershing suddenly didnt had mg's at all? Or if the Sexton didnt had a 50 cal to protect from infantry?
Sexton dint had a .50CAL

If its a secondary seat for a MG No problems
if its a coaxial MG, no thanks
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 06-12-2010, 20:12:17
Lets analyse.

Did the JPz IV have an mg in FH1?

Is the model in FH2 the same as the model in FH1?

Using the above answers:
Will the JPz IV have an mg in FH2?

I couldnt tell, I never played FH1. Still for historical accuraccy, cant just a mg34 be added?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 06-12-2010, 21:12:48
Sexton dint had a .50CAL

If its a secondary seat for a MG No problems
if its a coaxial MG, no thanks

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/Sexton_25-Pounder_Self-Propelled_Gun_Howitzer.jpg)

Sexton with british crew.

Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2010, 21:12:01
Ye thats one, but most sexton had just a brengun for self defense
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 06-12-2010, 23:12:36
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/Jagdpanzer%20IV70%20(V)/big.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/101205/jagdpanzer.jpg)

Heh, I like it how the renderer images are done exactly the same way.
Nice update as usual, but why are the spare wheels on the back more detailed in the FH1 version ?   ;)
I hope it´s just different rendering settings ;D
And will we get the feeling that it´s nose heavy when driving ? I hope it was possible to code this.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-12-2010, 00:12:27
All the wheels are completely new.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: sn00x on 07-12-2010, 01:12:09
nose heavy? naa, the axis of the tank is the front support wheel, behind it you got the mainframe of the gun, engine, all other heavy parts, that barrel is just a leaf ^^
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Butcher on 07-12-2010, 01:12:10
Quote
Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.



thats basically what i said - this version has the long 75mm gun which appeared in later versions. so there is only 1 mg.

i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Yustax on 07-12-2010, 01:12:04
i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.

Probably withouth the stupid default fog of war the game would be better. I like it on PR where you can see everything for miles.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: evhgear on 07-12-2010, 01:12:07
hey do you think we will see the M9 bazooka for the Ardennes ? At least it will help a little more than the M1 bazooka for hunting tanks
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Miklas on 07-12-2010, 02:12:58
Quote
Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.



thats basically what i said - this version has the long 75mm gun which appeared in later versions. so there is only 1 mg.

i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.
It will come in handy when defending against hoardes of IS2s and ISU122s.  ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2010, 15:12:20
The guns where more effective on the eastfront.

The Tiger needed to be in range of 800m to even try to penetrate the new IS2 frontal armor. And also at 1200m for the ISU. While the above could easily engage the tiger beyond that range

For the churchill it dint matterd, as the churchill also couldnt fire back at that range.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Butcher on 07-12-2010, 17:12:36
The guns where more effective on the eastfront.

The Tiger needed to be in range of 800m to even try to penetrate the new IS2 frontal armor. And also at 1200m for the ISU. While the above could easily engage the tiger beyond that range

For the churchill it dint matterd, as the churchill also couldnt fire back at that range.

thats the tigers performance.
panther and IS2 could engage each other at 1000 metres - panther had more shells, double to triple the fire rate, better optics and agility. (also german wiki), also before this comes again: russian steel quality never met western (yes, also german) standards in ww2. when the IS2 was introduced in spring 44 it still had some protection problems in the hull so that panzer IVs and stugs could engage it (which of course was later solved). kingtiger and jagdpanther had the advantage.
we had this discussion before and it ended in off topic spam, so i will stop here.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2010, 21:12:44
IS2 HE shell was effective enough VS the panther tank alone with spalling damage. It could even rip of the turret

Shall i post one of the many pictures of ripped apart german AFV's?
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 07-12-2010, 22:12:14
shall I post what panther did with T34  or sweet Sherman ;D
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2010, 22:12:47
shall I post what panther did with T34  or sweet Sherman ;D

thats a diffrent story. Shall i post what allied planes did with german supplies and infantry

Or churchill AVRE's did to german defenses

Dont get me started!

I said! DONT get me started!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: djinn on 07-12-2010, 22:12:11
Then stop... so we can continue to drool at the Jagdpanzer and other pertinent things to this thread :P
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: IrishReloaded on 07-12-2010, 22:12:30
Moderator will love us  ;D

Shall i start what Karl Gerät did?
What Stuka did ?
Sturmtiger is nothing to your avre
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-12-2010, 22:12:53
No I will not.

I suggest you to hear what Mr. Djinn has to say.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Mspfc Doc DuFresne on 08-12-2010, 05:12:54
I think you meant to say that his stupid AVRE is nothing to the Sturmtiger, unless you really wrote a post to argue against yourself.

Also, can front-heaviness be coded into the game? Just wondering?

Jagdpanther IV== Less adorable than the Hetzer. I mean, come on. You just want to pinch that thing's little cheeks!

Who's a good little Hetzer? Who's a good little Hetzer?! YOU ARE! Yes you are! Yes you are!!!
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-12-2010, 12:12:11
on moddb=
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c4ble 4hours 10mins ago says:
Don´t want to nit-pick here, but the Tank on the Picture is not the Sd.Kfz. 162 but the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) from Vomag!

The Sd.Kfz. 162 Jagdpanzer IV (also called Jagdpanzer IV/48) had a 7.5 cm PaK 39 L/48 Gun,
while the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Jagdpanzer IV (Jagdpanzer IV/70) from Vomag in the picture had the 7,5cm StuK [SturmKanone] 42 L/70 (also called 7.5 cm PaK [PanzerabwehrKanone]42 L/70),
which was indeed a slightly modified Version of the Panthers 7,5cm KwK [KampfwagenKanone] 42 L/70 Gun!

Only the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Version with the long L/70 Caliber Gun was called "Guderian-Ente" ("Guderian-Duck", not just "Duck") by the crews!
This was partly because Heinz Guderian strongly opposed and delayed the Project and partly because, as mentioned above, the long Gun made the vehicles somewhat nose-heavy, which caused them to handle "like a dabbling duck"!

But anyway a great Model and Texture! Good job guys!;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYc05gZFly0
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: NTH on 08-12-2010, 18:12:32
Not seeing the comment there on Moddb, but on the main page it is fixed now. Not on MODDB though.
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: Godall on 03-01-2011, 15:01:10
Where special news? >:(
Title: Re: Forgotten Hope News Update: 5th of December
Post by: DLFReporter on 03-01-2011, 15:01:34
Where special news? >:(

As was said: 'Coming in the next weeks'; the devs have Christmas holidays as well and first have to sober up from the heavy drinking after the mod-coronation party. ^^