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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: azreal on 05-12-2010, 21:12:01
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Updating coming in ~1 hour. Haven't come up with a title for this one yet. Also have some more news about the MOTY contest. (make sure to vote!)
Enjoy.
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english
EDIT: ok the title is The Duck Returns
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Its the Black Hawks, isnt it?
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This shit will blow your minds!
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This shit will blow your minds!
People are gonna like this one ;)
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I kind of like my mind not blown, but I am interested.
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The duck
the duck
DUKW?
EDIT OOH I KNOW IT!
(http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2009/09/trollface.jpg)
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The duck
the duck
DUKW?
EDIT OOH I KNOW IT!
(http://celtic.theoffside.com/files/2009/09/trollface.jpg)
I hope your right!
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I hope this time it will blow our minds. :P
The more often you say this, the higher the expectations. 8)
Thank you for your work Devs & Testers.
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I expect the BMW bike...*drools*.
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Unless... it means Duck Pattern Camo, hinting at the Pacific theater! ;D
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Unless... it means Duck Pattern Camo, hinting at the Pacific theater! ;D
I really hope so
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First time I've found an update before it's actually posted.
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First time I've found an update before it's actually posted.
Haha, same here. I doubt it has anything to do with the "Ruptured Duck"...
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(http://www.niementehtaat.fi/boomi/kuvat/sotka_logo.gif)
Erm
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/woySeSNBL3o/0.jpg)
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Are you joking or is that a actual hint ???
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Okay, my last guess is the Grumman J2F Duck, that's all I got.
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Okay, my last guess is the Grumman J2F Duck, that's all I got.
same here
It has to be it
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Rheinuebung ?
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Just to make thing clear, i expect Sotka's, aka T-34's.
(sotka is finnish for a certain duck species)
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(http://www.niementehtaat.fi/boomi/kuvat/sotka_logo.gif)
Erm
Do you mean...
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/image002.gif)
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/donaldcondom2.jpg)
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/0002b8pb.jpg)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpfRYy2RsY
They are here!
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alright, alright, keep the spam to a minimum please.
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alright, alright, keep the spam to a minimum please.
Its very common to see this kind of thing in all the updates threads lol. But well, just 8 minutes remaining!!!
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DUKW hahaha
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5 min.... please be something good
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Duck
Jagdpanzer IV Guderian Ente ;D
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Told ya
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vonderful!
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german bias xD
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awesome jagdpanzer 4 :)
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jihaa!
Really good stuff. Like this strange looking vehicle. Its the most "wtf is zhis" tank of german ;)
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Another German tank, a nice tank, but I'm really getting tired of german tanks, and tanks in general.
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Awww... just another tank. :(
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What tank? I see no tank?
Trolololoo
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What tank? I see no tank?
Trolololoo
Tank Destroyer... same thing. :-X Heavy Armor, happy?
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german bias xD
my words exactly
*looks at the list of crucial allied vehicles still missing
still
(http://www.celebrityclubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Sort_of_want.jpg)
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which version you build guys?? Looks to me like an early chassis with the long cannon.
Will it have the 60mm or 80mm front armour?
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HELL YEAH!!!!! Sexy Jagdpanzer IV. Just tell me we are going to see this beauty soon on Normandy.
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The last part of the discription, it feels incomplete to me.
In combat the Jagdpanzer performed exceptionally well in its intended role in Normandy, the Battle of the Bulge, and on the Eastern Front. However, when it was used as a replacement for tanks and assault guns, the Jagdpanzer The Sd.Kfz. 162 Jagdpanzer IV was modeled by Omni, with the texture done by AceS, and the wheels done by Toddel.
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The last part of the discription, it feels incomplete to me.
[21:05] <Eat_Uranium> basically, it was only modelled by Omni because it was used as a replacement for tanks
[21:09] <Flippy-Warbear> haha
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Nice model as usual :P
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SEXY SEXY SEXY!
Finally! good to see the version with the panther cannon - germans need more of those guns, im sick of shermans standing shots xD.
thats 3 new tank destroyers for the germans now. i think we are out of german tanks for now (i know there are still nashorn and stuff) - but with these 3 i think the most important vehicles finally are all in. good work.
have you yet decided on which NORMANDY maps you want to put it in (eg. in which operations it was used)?
now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
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now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton
I would love to see some new german AT guns though
and allied ones
ye more allied stuff now
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I would love to see some new german AT guns though
I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.
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now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton
Whenever I hear Sexton, i think some unclean thoughts. Nice model as usual, regular old quality work.
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now i think we need some more allied stuff. much important are m36 jackson and priest.
moaaaar!
Sexton
Whenever I hear Sexton, i think some unclean thoughts. Nice model as usual, regular old quality work.
I always think it's in Swedish, something weighting six tons :P
Edit: Yes, nice model indeed.
I once made on of those myself ;D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/malleja/jp4l70_1.jpg
I would love to see some new german AT guns though
I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.
And I would love a 17 Pdr.
Quite so old boy. You can never have too many pheasants.
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I would love to see some new german AT guns though
I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.
And I would love a 17 Pdr.
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On a slightly different note, the past 3 updates have looked exactly the same at first glance, so people who just check the website and not the forums, probably didnt even there was a update. And missed the reminder about second round of voting as well.
Carry on.
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I would love to see some new german AT guns though
I would love a Pak 43 AT gun.
And I would love a 17 Pdr.
Indeed. I can think of several maps where it can be placed
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*Cough*
It's not actually a Jagdpanzer IV
*cough*
Awesome nonetheless.
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(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/Jagdpanzer%20IV70%20(V)/big.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/101205/jagdpanzer.jpg)
Heh, I like it how the renderer images are done exactly the same way.
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You see what I did there. Extra points for Flippy.
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Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
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Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
Honestly, what can the IV/48 do that the StuG 40 can't? I don't think it would be very likely to see one ever.
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I knew that the Jagdpanzer IV will be! Fuck yea.... ;D
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So this was just a port from FH1? Looks really nice either way.
On to the next update.
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Huzzah!
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hipp hipp, hurraay for fh1 ports!
love the camo, just like i allways wanted to see a camuflaged jagdpanzer
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Another German Tank Destroyer. Can someone say...German Bias? We need some more crucial allied vehicles. But anyways it'll be a great addition to the FH2 motor pool.
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Another German Tank Destroyer. Can someone say...German Bias? We need some more crucial allied vehicles. But anyways it'll be a great addition to the FH2 motor pool.
JUMBO SHERMAN RAWR
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German bias... nah! It's just another big target. 8)
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As usual, nice update! ;D
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Nice, but let's have a few map updates.
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Nice, but let's have a few map updates.
Totally
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Blame the allies for not have 100th of different Tanks.... ;D
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One of my favourite tanks. :)
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Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.
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Ah finally very nice!!!
And how hard could be to make the previous version,the Jagdpanzer IV/48 for Normandy maps? (the Jagdpanzer IV/70 were not made until August '44, so this model should take part only in The Ardennes right?).
Honestly, what can the IV/48 do that the StuG 40 can't? I don't think it would be very likely to see one ever.
More low profile to ambush in Villers-Bocage ;D. And of course more diversity.
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Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.
Also periscope and headlights seem to be redone as well.
BTW, very nice update!
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And of course more diversity.
Diversity is bad, m'kay.
for your memory usage
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Looks like it's the same model (for bf1942 and BF2), only wheels and tracks been redone for BF2.
r-e-a-d the update, don't just look at the pictures.
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Thanks for transfering the jagdpanzer from fh1 :-* i hope you will also transfer brummbar ;D
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Can you transfer the Nashhorn and Pershing too?
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Thanks for transfering the jagdpanzer from fh1 :-* i hope you will also transfer brummbar ;D
OMG we forgot about the brumbar
Missing vehicles=
Brummbar
sherman 105
Sexton
priest
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Seems like the MG won't be usable?
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Seems like the MG won't be usable?
Thats another variant Im afraid.
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Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.
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Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.
I thought that only the L/70 and L/72 variants had the MG34. Surely we need one of those now or its gonna be too difficult to destroy the pesky infantry.
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Nah, they both had a MG34, but IIRC it could only be used by opening the loophole on the right side of the gun and sticking the MG through.
I thought that only the L/70 and L/72 variants had the MG34. Surely we need one of those now or its gonna be too difficult to destroy the pesky infantry.
I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.
Not like the lame Stug III ausf 40
Its a tank destroyer, not a regular tank
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the mg is behind the metalcupola.
In the very early versions there were even 2 mgs :P ;D
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Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull (not coax).
nonetheless the new Stug III is no fun to operate - they seem useless to me now.
as long as the Hetzer gets its 360° turnable top mg im happy.
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Ahhhhh the Jagdpanzer IV.
Brings back memories.
Cool stuff. 8)
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Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.
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I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.
Hey they had mg's. Would you like if the Pershing suddenly didnt had mg's at all? Or if the Sexton didnt had a 50 cal to protect from infantry?
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Lets analyse.
Did the JPz IV have an mg in FH1?
Is the model in FH2 the same as the model in FH1?
Using the above answers:
Will the JPz IV have an mg in FH2?
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I say no to this. This means the jagdpanzer will be actually used as a tank destroyer.
Hey they had mg's. Would you like if the Pershing suddenly didnt had mg's at all? Or if the Sexton didnt had a 50 cal to protect from infantry?
Sexton dint had a .50CAL
If its a secondary seat for a MG No problems
if its a coaxial MG, no thanks
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Lets analyse.
Did the JPz IV have an mg in FH1?
Is the model in FH2 the same as the model in FH1?
Using the above answers:
Will the JPz IV have an mg in FH2?
I couldnt tell, I never played FH1. Still for historical accuraccy, cant just a mg34 be added?
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Sexton dint had a .50CAL
If its a secondary seat for a MG No problems
if its a coaxial MG, no thanks
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/Sexton_25-Pounder_Self-Propelled_Gun_Howitzer.jpg)
Sexton with british crew.
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Ye thats one, but most sexton had just a brengun for self defense
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(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/Jagdpanzer%20IV70%20(V)/big.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/101205/jagdpanzer.jpg)
Heh, I like it how the renderer images are done exactly the same way.
Nice update as usual, but why are the spare wheels on the back more detailed in the FH1 version ? ;)
I hope it´s just different rendering settings ;D
And will we get the feeling that it´s nose heavy when driving ? I hope it was possible to code this.
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All the wheels are completely new.
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nose heavy? naa, the axis of the tank is the front support wheel, behind it you got the mainframe of the gun, engine, all other heavy parts, that barrel is just a leaf ^^
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Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.
thats basically what i said - this version has the long 75mm gun which appeared in later versions. so there is only 1 mg.
i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.
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i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.
Probably withouth the stupid default fog of war the game would be better. I like it on PR where you can see everything for miles.
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hey do you think we will see the M9 bazooka for the Ardennes ? At least it will help a little more than the M1 bazooka for hunting tanks
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Jagdpanther and Jagdpanzer IV had both just 1 mg in the hull
The early versions of JP IV had left and right one cupola with each one mg behind.
The late version only had one.
thats basically what i said - this version has the long 75mm gun which appeared in later versions. so there is only 1 mg.
i dont see how the jagdpanther will be that much better than a standard panther right now. sure, it has the best gun of ww2 with the long 88mm, but this only makes a difference if there are churchills on the map, because shermans are 1shotted by both guns anyway.
the only advantage the jagdpanther has over the panther ingame i could think of is the lower silhouette, but i would rather like to have a turret and a coax gun. so i dont expect much of it, its just cooler and has more style, the advantages it had in reality cant be included in a game.
It will come in handy when defending against hoardes of IS2s and ISU122s. ;D
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The guns where more effective on the eastfront.
The Tiger needed to be in range of 800m to even try to penetrate the new IS2 frontal armor. And also at 1200m for the ISU. While the above could easily engage the tiger beyond that range
For the churchill it dint matterd, as the churchill also couldnt fire back at that range.
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The guns where more effective on the eastfront.
The Tiger needed to be in range of 800m to even try to penetrate the new IS2 frontal armor. And also at 1200m for the ISU. While the above could easily engage the tiger beyond that range
For the churchill it dint matterd, as the churchill also couldnt fire back at that range.
thats the tigers performance.
panther and IS2 could engage each other at 1000 metres - panther had more shells, double to triple the fire rate, better optics and agility. (also german wiki), also before this comes again: russian steel quality never met western (yes, also german) standards in ww2. when the IS2 was introduced in spring 44 it still had some protection problems in the hull so that panzer IVs and stugs could engage it (which of course was later solved). kingtiger and jagdpanther had the advantage.
we had this discussion before and it ended in off topic spam, so i will stop here.
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IS2 HE shell was effective enough VS the panther tank alone with spalling damage. It could even rip of the turret
Shall i post one of the many pictures of ripped apart german AFV's?
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shall I post what panther did with T34 or sweet Sherman ;D
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shall I post what panther did with T34 or sweet Sherman ;D
thats a diffrent story. Shall i post what allied planes did with german supplies and infantry
Or churchill AVRE's did to german defenses
Dont get me started!
I said! DONT get me started!
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Then stop... so we can continue to drool at the Jagdpanzer and other pertinent things to this thread :P
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Moderator will love us ;D
Shall i start what Karl Gerät did?
What Stuka did ?
Sturmtiger is nothing to your avre
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No I will not.
I suggest you to hear what Mr. Djinn has to say.
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I think you meant to say that his stupid AVRE is nothing to the Sturmtiger, unless you really wrote a post to argue against yourself.
Also, can front-heaviness be coded into the game? Just wondering?
Jagdpanther IV== Less adorable than the Hetzer. I mean, come on. You just want to pinch that thing's little cheeks!
Who's a good little Hetzer? Who's a good little Hetzer?! YOU ARE! Yes you are! Yes you are!!!
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c4ble 4hours 10mins ago says:
Don´t want to nit-pick here, but the Tank on the Picture is not the Sd.Kfz. 162 but the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) from Vomag!
The Sd.Kfz. 162 Jagdpanzer IV (also called Jagdpanzer IV/48) had a 7.5 cm PaK 39 L/48 Gun,
while the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Jagdpanzer IV (Jagdpanzer IV/70) from Vomag in the picture had the 7,5cm StuK [SturmKanone] 42 L/70 (also called 7.5 cm PaK [PanzerabwehrKanone]42 L/70),
which was indeed a slightly modified Version of the Panthers 7,5cm KwK [KampfwagenKanone] 42 L/70 Gun!
Only the Sd.Kfz. 162/1 Version with the long L/70 Caliber Gun was called "Guderian-Ente" ("Guderian-Duck", not just "Duck") by the crews!
This was partly because Heinz Guderian strongly opposed and delayed the Project and partly because, as mentioned above, the long Gun made the vehicles somewhat nose-heavy, which caused them to handle "like a dabbling duck"!
But anyway a great Model and Texture! Good job guys!;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYc05gZFly0
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Not seeing the comment there on Moddb, but on the main page it is fixed now. Not on MODDB though.
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Where special news? >:(
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Where special news? >:(
As was said: 'Coming in the next weeks'; the devs have Christmas holidays as well and first have to sober up from the heavy drinking after the mod-coronation party. ^^