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So many people left and quit FH2 and started playing PR, ARMA or any other game, why??

Read Natty's posts.

Knowing to code, mod and do graphics does not make you an expert on game play.

FH2 could have been so much more awesome then it is today and with so many more players, yes allot of you would not have been here cause you love the way it is, spawn/die spawn/die .... mod, but the player base would have been triple and the game play allot more teamwork orientated if someone that is an expert on game play would have made the decisions on that matter.

And Natty I knew you very good and you are not the expert, you actually are pretty far from it, I remember some discussions in the past.

SL spawn back in the day was discussed and silenced by Lobo very quickly, it is still there, which is really unbelievable, it has so many downsides that it kills game-play from all angle's. and no you do not need  more teamwork orientated gameplay to play with spawnpoints, people will adjust easaly. But it must be on all maps not just 1. take an excample when PR moved from spawnpoint to only firebases, so many where against including me, and after 2 days people where used to it and now nobody want to go back. That is how it works, not half but full.

FH1 was awesome cause you had to fight over a flag, in FH2 a squadleader runs in a flag, hides in a corner, 5 guys spawn in and the flag is lost without anything. atleast let them all walk to the capzone instead of one and earn your conquer or defence -win.

The best mods for COH, BF2, BF1942 etc etc are the realism mods, FH2 is probably the most beautiful mod out there, Graphics are topnotch, the models and textures are just awesome, game play is a noobfest imo, I play 1-2 rounds and I am not coming back for months cause I can't stand games that are spawn/die spawn/die unless they are called DOD:S.

Now this is all my opinion, I know many here disagree cause you all are the ones that play it, but I think many that stopped playing and some I do speak now and then agree with this.

On the other hand what I would do if I would be making the shots would make you all run away instantly but I am sure that the new players would be inline and there would be teamwork all over the place

So no need to take me to serious, I am just a lost ex-FH2 player ad a proud ex-FH1 player (still the best mod ever made)

8 vs 8 so the winners get $ 8.000.-  makes ....... 

Lol @Natty for telling me that I roleplay every night when I play PR, I did not know that, so next time I am supressed by a saw gunner I will just stand up and shoot him in the face.

Endless discussion and you will get 0 results. Devs in any mod are not known for listening what veteran players want, they have a view and stick to it, even if it means lesser players for their mod, the doctrine is everything. They look purely on how many people play today, not if they lost 10 players that where playing the mod for 4-5 years and why. Look at BG, they let their mod die cause of doctrine and so many others.

Yup you tried really hard, and we can all see how "active" you clans are in these forums, awesome clanmatches, ladders, events, how could i have missed that, but hey I am so negative since when is being realistic and aware called negative.

Sorry if I touched your feelings, but nope I do not play on pubservers so I do not know how many clantags there are, but I do read the forums and i see only 1 clan active and that is that new italian clan and that is that, it is what i can see.

But I could be very wrong and Fh2 could have a clanbase that is not having clanwars or events as in any other game, so then yes my bad Anyway, if one of the many clans here wants to figth another clan, give me a shout.

are there any clans in FH2? As far as I know that part is as dead as it can be.

Just keep it civil, I understand some of you have another reason why they do not like FHT to have this event But for the rest of the guys, we are listening and work it out with Sam please.

If you ask normally and simply discuss like Kubador we can work things out and we ALWAYS will do what pleases the awesome FH2 mod and developpers, if that means we should not run it tonight then so be it. We where in the understanding that on a patch release night there will be 6+ servers filled and we just stick our neck out to give the other players the chance to play in a 100+ server.

SamNadine and the other people in charge are civil guys and will do the right thing, but if you come here with terms like our gimmick server and fuck this or that will only reach the opposite of what you ask. We do have a public server since FH1, just for your information.

Like Sam said, he is on teamspeak to discuss this with anyone that wants to, in the meantime we will listen to what the Devs wishes are.