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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #15 on: 23-06-2011, 23:06:07 »
Its not the thought that counts.
I'm taking my own freedom
puttin' it in my song
singing loud and strong
proving all day long
I'm takin' my freedom
puttin' it in my stroll
I'll be hop-steppin' y'all
lettin' the joy unfold

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #16 on: 23-06-2011, 23:06:53 »
Better outlaw all cults and religions then.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #17 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:44 »
Id like to see him scentenced. What for you ask? He contiously manipulates people with weakened shields for indoctrination and chickin behaviour. He knows how to bend them, shape them and eventually create them.

you sound like the chinese government, smiles.
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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #18 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:16 »
Id like to see him scentenced. What for you ask? He contiously manipulates people with weakened shields for indoctrination and chickin behaviour. He knows how to bend them, shape them and eventually create them.

you sound like the chinese government, smiles.

Indeed he does ;). I'm glad he wasn't given a sentence, I really don't care who he is.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #19 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:04 »
Id like to see him scentenced. What for you ask? He contiously manipulates people with weakened shields for indoctrination and chickin behaviour. He knows how to bend them, shape them and eventually create them.

you sound like the chinese government, smiles.

Indeed he does ;). I'm glad he wasn't given a sentence, I really don't care who he is.

Well not exactly since the Chineese government is known to do the same as he does.
I'm taking my own freedom
puttin' it in my song
singing loud and strong
proving all day long
I'm takin' my freedom
puttin' it in my stroll
I'll be hop-steppin' y'all
lettin' the joy unfold

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #20 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:27 »
Better outlaw all cults and religions then.

Sure go ahead. But please prioritise and dont overreact.
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singing loud and strong
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I'm takin' my freedom
puttin' it in my stroll
I'll be hop-steppin' y'all
lettin' the joy unfold

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #21 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:09 »
Better outlaw all cults and religions then.

Sure go ahead. But please prioritise and dont overreact.

Smiles, you really are a scary person. You seriously are sounding like the Chinese government.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #22 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:17 »
he could have had his dreamjob 20 years ago in east germany
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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #23 on: 24-06-2011, 00:06:52 »
he could have had his dreamjob 20 years ago in east germany
Time flies, the DDR didn't exist anymore 20 years ago.
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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #24 on: 24-06-2011, 01:06:49 »
This man is hard to follow sometimes. While I think his opinions are his, and that his non-guilty completion of this court case is an excellent victory for the idea of free speech. The man himself I have issue with.

In his other moments, he tries to illustrate an Islam that is a totalitarian political force, that is slowly dominating the west. While I do not disagree that the political correctness applied to the religion of Islam is unjustified, or that Islam has become more of a political ideology than a religious one, I do not understand why this man advocates injecting western religions into the same political climate.

Saying that you want countries to include clauses in their constitutions and legal documents advocating a varied set of western religions, and banning the practice of Islam, is as bad as Islamist's shouting 'cry wolf' on the radio about insult to the religion. It solves nothing but to create a bigger divide between the two. I'm all for the saving of Western Culture, but not if religions become politicized anymore than they already are.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #25 on: 24-06-2011, 01:06:10 »
Well Archi, at least you disagreed with him in more intellectual manner: exchanging opinions.

I dislike McCarthyism as much as this. Don't like the guy too, but an opinion is an opinion and I judge him based on that. My moderate Muslim friends say that they shouldn't care, that is to act like most Christians when you put their deity and leaders into a joke:



But there is a limit they say. An act like flushing the holy book down the WC being practiced in Guantanamo is way off the chart. The fanatics are surely vocal, but the moderates are now gaining voice too. Politics is all about scaremongering nowadays, the bring fear to the public, and this one seems to be a success.

The phenomenon of right-wing popularity in Europe, and especially in the Netherlands, makes me want to say: you guys out there smoked too much pot and make impaired judgment.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #26 on: 24-06-2011, 02:06:47 »
 ZMP,
 the problem is that the Dutchie's don't smoke enough of their own pot.


 Wilders is the personification of the resurgent movement towards ultra-conservatism in Europe.Personally, this just scares the crap out of me,
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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #27 on: 24-06-2011, 02:06:32 »

But there is a limit they say. An act like flushing the holy book down the WC being practiced in Guantanamo is way off the chart. The fanatics are surely vocal, but the moderates are now gaining voice too. Politics is all about scaremongering nowadays, the bring fear to the public, and this one seems to be a success.

You realize that was a fake story, right?  Like the news magazine that reported it came out and admited that they made it up?

Also, moderate muslims, at least in this country, scare the crap out of me more than the radical christians.  The radical christians just want gays to not marry, raise kids, and seek help for their sins.  The moderate muslims at UC Irvine wanted gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transexuals to be killed.

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #28 on: 24-06-2011, 02:06:51 »
Well, I guess that leaves the Asexuals safe

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Re: Today is a victory for freedom of speech.
« Reply #29 on: 24-06-2011, 02:06:07 »
Id like to see him scentenced. What for you ask? He contiously manipulates people with weakened shields for indoctrination and chickin behaviour. He knows how to bend them, shape them and eventually create them.
Yeah, like no other politician does the same...

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