Author Topic: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update  (Read 4988 times)

Offline Chad1992

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #15 on: 19-08-2015, 00:08:58 »
Very cool!


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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #16 on: 19-08-2015, 01:08:05 »
Awesome renders! :D Glad we could show these off.

One little thing about the Volkssturmkarabiner K98.

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"Unlike the other rifles, this one had no magazine and had to be reloaded after each shot."

Do you mean it had to be bolted after each shot? Or literally reloaded like the Panzerbuechse 39? I know nothing about these weapons so that's interesting as hell to me 8)

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #17 on: 19-08-2015, 02:08:26 »
Yes, it should be single shot. :)

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #18 on: 19-08-2015, 02:08:12 »
I've been hunting with a somewhat similar weapon my entire life (Gras Y:1874). Annoying you cant fire a second time fast enough but forces you to make each shot count!

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #19 on: 19-08-2015, 02:08:39 »
And you can pretend to be in the Franco-Prussian War.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #20 on: 19-08-2015, 07:08:55 »
Will we get civilian clothes with a "Volkssturm" armband ? I would be soooo happy! :)

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #21 on: 19-08-2015, 11:08:17 »
Will we get civilian clothes with a "Volkssturm" armband ? I would be soooo happy! :)

That will probably be answered no. There was a custom map called Warsaw Uprising, which sprung up a debate on whether if it could be made official, and the developers said that they found shooting civilians in a game unethical.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #22 on: 19-08-2015, 13:08:46 »
The armband would turn them into soldiers imo.
Civilians fought battles, I mean if they have weapons and armbands it's legit imo.
Now I feel sad. :(
Many civilians took arms in ww2 how can that be ignored ?
If historical accuracy is wrong then I don't wanna be right.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #23 on: 19-08-2015, 13:08:06 »
There won't be models, but not for ethical reasons, simply because player models are really hard to do and these weapons are only in pickup kits and you can't change your model when picking up a kit.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #24 on: 19-08-2015, 13:08:11 »
"designed when Red Army was knocking on Berlin doors"-so Berlin( :o :o :o :o :o :o) or Seelow Heights map?

There will be ported FH1 Seelow Heights map. I know that somebody has already posted the minimap somewhere here...

Will we get civilian clothes with a "Volkssturm" armband ? I would be soooo happy! :)

That will probably be answered no. There was a custom map called Warsaw Uprising, which sprung up a debate on whether if it could be made official, and the developers said that they found shooting civilians in a game unethical.

When you carry a weapon, you are no longer a civilian... ;)


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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #25 on: 19-08-2015, 15:08:26 »
Armed civilians become militia. Cheers for the update, I almost went histerical upon seeing these curious, but obscure weapons in my favorite mod. Great work devs!

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #26 on: 19-08-2015, 15:08:09 »
There won't be models, but not for ethical reasons, simply because player models are really hard to do and these weapons are only in pickup kits and you can't change your model when picking up a kit.

So if you are, say, a machine gunner, and you pick up a rifleman's kit, you don't get the rifleman player model?  I always thought you did for some reason.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #27 on: 19-08-2015, 15:08:16 »
Nope, only the kit geometry changes, which is hat, ammo pouches, and weapon.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #28 on: 19-08-2015, 16:08:15 »
A player model consists of two elements ingame: The actual 3d model, which gets assigned at start depending on which kit you spawn with, and the kit geometry, which are accessories like helmets, ammo pouches, holsters etc. There is one of these for each kind of kit. So if you spawn as a scout and pick up a rifle kit, you get a new helmet and other accessories, but your basic player model doesn't change. So you can't change from a Wehrmacht uniform into an old man or something like that.

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Re: The Final Trench - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
« Reply #29 on: 19-08-2015, 17:08:20 »
And on Sidi Rezeh? I think you can get Italian player and German (remeber ita and ger voices)

P.S. Chad are you back in forum or also development?
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