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Forgotten Hope 2 => Singleplayer and Coop => Topic started by: gsteffens on 10-01-2010, 04:01:24

Title: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: gsteffens on 10-01-2010, 04:01:24
I downloaded this about a month ago, version 2.2, and am currently as I type this downloading 2.25.

Working two jobs and doing a lot of side work do not allow me to play it too much.  I was pretty pleased with the original BF2 overall game play, and I really liked the WW2 setting of BF1942.  I found this mod, which combined them both.

So far, I am very impressed with every aspect of game play.  I can tell countless hours was spent on shaping the mod.  The vehicles are excellent from the operation to the look, and the weapons carried by infantry are clearly well crafted.

I have a pretty iffy internet connection where I live, but there is rumor of broadband coming our way.  So hopefully some day I can play online.  I built a computer for the family to share, but I also built it to game.  So all that is left is getting online, because while it is fun single player, it would be much more fun multiplayer.

I only have a few small issues with the game.  One of which is realism of objects, such as tables and chairs, debris, etc.  Just about all items do not move.  Such as if I run into something small with a tank, it causes damage to the tank.  Same with gates and doors.  However, I observed these with original BF2 and I think it is how the game engine is setup to run.  Also, I had a problem at first when the game crashed randomly.  I did some Googling and found out that there are several shader files that are switched from BF2 to FH2, and then back again when you close.  If it is not closed properly this operation is screwed up.  I believe this is only a result of the game being a MOD, correct?  It would be kick-butt to see this as a full stand-alone game!

So thank you so much to everyone involved with the production of this mod.  It really shows how much effort and attention to detail was put into it. 
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: cannonfodder on 10-01-2010, 09:01:50
...Also, I had a problem at first when the game crashed randomly.  I did some Googling and found out that there are several shader files that are switched from BF2 to FH2, and then back again when you close.  If it is not closed properly this operation is screwed up.  I believe this is only a result of the game being a MOD, correct? It would be kick-butt to see this as a full stand-alone game!...
In 2.2 Singleplayer, Op. Aberdeen, Goodwood, Hyacinth and Supercharge, all CTD at some point...haven't tried any 2.25 SP maps yet, but apparently Goodwood still has a CTD issue.

The shader thing is due to FH having it's own .exe file (most other mods don't). As long as you start the game using the desktop shortcut and close it using the ingame QUIT button (NOT Alt+F4) you'll be right.

If you don't close it properly the shader files don't get put back where they should be.

And it effectively is a stand-alone game considering the only thing it has in common with vanilla BF2 is the game engine... :)
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: djinn on 10-01-2010, 09:01:29
Think Left for Dead and Half Life 2

Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: gsteffens on 10-01-2010, 22:01:26
...Also, I had a problem at first when the game crashed randomly.  I did some Googling and found out that there are several shader files that are switched from BF2 to FH2, and then back again when you close.  If it is not closed properly this operation is screwed up.  I believe this is only a result of the game being a MOD, correct? It would be kick-butt to see this as a full stand-alone game!...
In 2.2 Singleplayer, Op. Aberdeen, Goodwood, Hyacinth and Supercharge, all CTD at some point...haven't tried any 2.25 SP maps yet, but apparently Goodwood still has a CTD issue.

The shader thing is due to FH having it's own .exe file (most other mods don't). As long as you start the game using the desktop shortcut and close it using the ingame QUIT button (NOT Alt+F4) you'll be right.

If you don't close it properly the shader files don't get put back where they should be.

And it effectively is a stand-alone game considering the only thing it has in common with vanilla BF2 is the game engine... :)

I understand what you say about the shaders.  It makes sense.

What I meant by the stand alone, is if we could buy it by itself complete, but I do understand it is always evolving and getting better. 



Think Left for Dead and Half Life 2




What do you mean?
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: djinn on 10-01-2010, 22:01:13
What CannonFodder said

Its effectively a completely new game save for the engine so its comparable ot Left for Dead in relation to HL2... Except the devs eint selling it
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: gsteffens on 11-01-2010, 04:01:32
Aha, that makes sense.  I am sorry I do enjoy gaming but I do not know a whole lot about them.

I am looking forward to an Omaha style map for this game.  If it continues with the quality so far, it is going to be an insanely great map to play.  (Yes I am fascinated by D-Day)
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 11-01-2010, 04:01:31
As much as we all hate to admit it I think we all look forward to an Omaha Beach map.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Desertfox on 11-01-2010, 04:01:13
Aha, that makes sense.  I am sorry I do enjoy gaming but I do not know a whole lot about them.

I am looking forward to an Omaha style map for this game.  If it continues with the quality so far, it is going to be an insanely great map to play.  (Yes I am fascinated by D-Day)
The devs haven't let me down yet so it'll probably be amazing (as the Germans)
As much as we all hate to admit it I think we all look forward to an Omaha Beach map.
I don't hate to admit it
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: gsteffens on 11-01-2010, 04:01:37
I think it would be fun to play as either side.  The one in BF1942 was just okay.  With all the realistic detail the Developers have loaded into the maps so far, Omaha is sure to be a hit.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: General Tso on 11-01-2010, 14:01:07
I think it would be fun to play as either side.  The one in BF1942 was just okay.  With all the realistic detail the Developers have loaded into the maps so far, Omaha is sure to be a hit.
Did you ever play FH1 for BF1942?  If you like FH2, you would definitely love FH1.  Still a few servers around, too.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Desertfox on 12-01-2010, 01:01:12
I think it would be fun to play as either side.  The one in BF1942 was just okay.  With all the realistic detail the Developers have loaded into the maps so far, Omaha is sure to be a hit.
Did you ever play FH1 for BF1942?  If you like FH2, you would definitely love FH1.  Still a few servers around, too.
Not if FH2 is to pretty for you :P
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: gsteffens on 12-01-2010, 05:01:31
No I have not tried FH1.  Is it on the same level, a total revamp of BF1942?  I have a crummy connection right now, so it is tough to download too much.  I also was getting frustrated with the choppyness of BF1942 and the struggle to get the updates right.  The BF2 platform seems to be a lot smoother, at least from my point of view and what I know.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: General Tso on 12-01-2010, 21:01:41
No I have not tried FH1.  Is it on the same level, a total revamp of BF1942?  I have a crummy connection right now, so it is tough to download too much.  I also was getting frustrated with the choppyness of BF1942 and the struggle to get the updates right. 
It's not a complete modification like FH2 (because of 42's contemporary setting), but builds upon and is definitely a big upgrade over vanilla BF1942.  It is 2+ GBs (IIRC), so it might be difficult for you to obtain.  It will have a place on any PC that I own, as long as whatever OS I have installed will run the game.   :D
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Medavelvan on 18-02-2010, 00:02:32
Fantastic mod isn't it? I'm a huge fan of total conversion mods and their DEV teams, I think they're some of the best game developers in the industry because they're dedicated to making games that are based on fun rather than on profits and marketability.

There is a kind of "creative purity" in total conversion gaming that really appeals to me.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: DLFReporter on 18-02-2010, 10:02:10
Nice that you like the mod we all love as well. :)

I only have a few small issues with the game.  One of which is realism of objects, such as tables and chairs, debris, etc.  Just about all items do not move.  Such as if I run into something small with a tank, it causes damage to the tank.  Same with gates and doors.  However, I observed these with original BF2 and I think it is how the game engine is setup to run. 

That is a grief, but unluckily the BF2 engine is quite limited when it comes to physics. Making fences passable by tanks and vehicles was a huge step though! :)
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Medavelvan on 18-02-2010, 16:02:42

I only have a few small issues with the game.  One of which is realism of objects, such as tables and chairs, debris, etc.  Just about all items do not move.  d attention to detail was put into it. 

I wonder if movable chairs could be simulated by creating static objects like tables and chairs and setting them as vehicles - I noticed I can push other vehicles when in a tank. This would not allow for accurate physics, but movable objects maybe.
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: djinn on 18-02-2010, 21:02:03
Sure, but do you really want 10 movable chairs or 10 tanks? There are only so many vehicles that can exist for each map, sadly
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: Desertfox on 18-02-2010, 22:02:28
Sure, but do you really want 10 movable chairs or 10 tanks? There are only so many vehicles that can exist for each map, sadly
Yeah, it's a good thought, but alas the engine kills it
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: von.small on 04-03-2010, 17:03:49
Vanilla Battlefield 1942 Omaha Beach was too realistic, I had to close the game down after only a few minutes play.  Then FH0.7 came along and mocked it's uberness by creating an Omaha that was just a run of the mill Omaha beach, nothing special about it.


To quote an old post of mine on another forum...

"Nothing beats being the first man to blow that ****ing bunker door off, you might get pwnt seconds later, but you're left with a smug feeling of 'I did that', I cleared the way - hey everyone I made it up the friggin beach and blew the door off, we can all advance cause I did good... unless you're playing as German, then people will look at you like wtff? Why did you blow the doors off?"
Title: Re: Very impressed with this game!
Post by: djinn on 04-03-2010, 22:03:44
Vanilla Battlefield 1942 Omaha Beach was too realistic, I had to close the game down after only a few minutes play.  Then FH0.7 came along and mocked it's uberness by creating an Omaha that was just a run of the mill Omaha beach, nothing special about it.

Realistic, huh? This joke is just mean :-D