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Title: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 13-07-2015, 00:07:49
Welcome to World of Warships - Open Beta.

This is the game that displays warships of the period between 1900 and 1960, for you to play in a competive manner. Basically the game is a spinnoff from wargaming.net's famous World of Tanks.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/b82435.jpg)

Spoiler
Basically you'll know the game interface. It is the same as in World of Tanks. And the game mechanics are similar. You only have to unlock all aspects of the game first, as they're considered too much for a beginner.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/r1klqw.jpg)

You start with Co-OP battles.


(http://oi59.tinypic.com/ztgjtw.jpg)

After that you get random battles.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/14xmfbl.jpg)

And then daily missions. Like having to achieve 3 wins within 24 hours.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/16kz9sp.jpg)

Yes, at some point you get free XP for distribution to unlock ships and modules.


(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2u62rur.jpg)

Ship commander serves same purpose as tank crews.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/elbdc6.jpg)

Even the skills and perks should be kinda familiar.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/5ck1p4.jpg)

The upgrades appear to be minor. Nothing big or special, like the reduction of the chance of receiving damage to important parts like driving shaft or rudder.

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/33ni3ic.jpg)

Signals are comsumables that provide little boosts to speed or similar, they deplete after single use.


(http://oi61.tinypic.com/b84q3o.jpg)

Comoflague can prevent the enemy to detect you, by 3%.


(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2qsxdw9.jpg)

Combat situation: Shelling a ship...


(http://oi58.tinypic.com/317fu5w.jpg)

...and destroying it.


(http://oi59.tinypic.com/4qkxt.jpg)

Example for Signals and camoflague in use.


(http://oi62.tinypic.com/zv7lzk.jpg)

Note the torpedos. There are no submarines in this game. Destroyers are smallest class that serves as Torpedo Boats.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2nl72j9.jpg)

Yes, I'm going for the carrier.


Tier I ships are easy to score with. Tier II compensates tier I for being easy. At least you get money. Tier III makes good money. At Tier IV business gets serious. Similar to WoT.


European Link: www.worldofwarships.eu
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 13-07-2015, 15:07:52
I'm already playing some Ryujo, Kongo, Furutaka and Minekaze heheheh

Was in CBT, even bought the Yubari pack, it's quite fun, although I'd say it has some carrier balance issues.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Torenico on 14-07-2015, 01:07:41
Everything WG does ends up being terribly balanced.


Such a shame.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Korsakov829 on 14-07-2015, 05:07:07
Probably not so much as going to try it, back during WOT closed beta I waited and waited for it to become less arcade-like with the USA vs Soviet prototype crap but years later it's still the same.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 14-07-2015, 13:07:06
World of Warships is very arcade. I think the WoW battles would serve perfectly for War Thunders arcade mode. Which implies that there would be realism and simulation modes besides arcade then.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Wulfburk on 14-07-2015, 22:07:48
No royal navy? Supposedly russian navy coming first than Royal navy?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKFlhczTPUw
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 14-07-2015, 22:07:05
Yes, they expected the Russian player market to be much bigger than Royal Navy's so they decided to add the Russians first. Since the Soviet navy never really did anything except getting slaughtered by the Japanese, their tech tree will be mostly paper ships.  ::)
Second biggest playerbase is the Germans so KM gets added after the Russians. Only then will the Royal Navy make an appearance.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 15-07-2015, 01:07:55
There was the Warspite being a premium ship, but it got removed.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2lu7ugx.jpg)
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-08-2016, 08:08:50
So anyone playing this as much as i do?

Also german BB's are less then a week away so it seems!!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 11-08-2016, 14:08:28
I am :D

Waiting for Sharnhorst. Then grinding for the Bismarck. They say the tier 9 and 10 aren't very good.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-08-2016, 19:08:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-KLacRlcE

one major advantage german BB's have is very powerfull secondary batteries. This goes all the way to T10.

Yamato has the advantage of best firepower (and theoretical armor)
Montana has the advantage of AA defense

Kurfurst has the major advantage of protection against destroyers. With secondary battery module and captain skills (including manual firecontrol), from what i heard ingame and on the forums, she rapes destroyers and any cruiser that gets to close. Wich is btw, over 10km appearntly. You have 3x2 15cm guns firing all juicy HE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J-KLacRlcE

Go to 6:10   Gneisenau's secondary batteries hit 71 times vs the nagato. Wich dealt 8000 damage and caused 3 fires. I frikking love secondary batteries, and my Warspite is fully upgraded with them. They are good enough for me, but the gneisenau easily performs twice as much with her secondaries.

From bismarck to kurfurst, the secondaries goes 7km and up to a maximum of 10km. Only the yamato has that, but they have much less guns.
Thats epic...

As for guns, the 42cm of kurfurst and Der grosse have more damage then the US 406 gun, but have bit less penetration. But HE damage and Fire chance is High.

Something all german BB's have is excellent protection against citadel hits. You can already see this on the tirpitz.My Colorado and North carolina never had problems vs japanese and american battleships. But when i face a tirpitz, its a tough nut to crack

HP wise they have more then the US BB's (a bit) but still less then the japanese BB's


So i think the German BB's will be a complete new playstyle. Being somewhere in between the US and Japanese playstyle.


and i will buy the premium ship scharnhost. Because the scharnhost/gneisenau deserve those 28cm!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 11-08-2016, 19:08:08
I imagine the Bismarck can be really funny to play using HE on the main guns at 8-12km to set people on fire (making them use the repair kit) before closing in and starting more fires with the 10km secondaries.

The tier 9 and 10 look like damage pinatas though. The GK has a turning circle of 1050 meters rofl.
Their performance will depend on whether or not their potential damage output is higher than the damage input, because the latter can hardly be minimized. Even with hydro you can forget about dodging torps and they only have 25% torp reduction to start with.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-08-2016, 20:08:58
i do hope that they get some adjustments to that aswel. But it is being looked into.

but yeah, what does that mean

I know wargaming from WOT and they and balance were horrible. But WOWS is better in that matter. Not all that great tough, but atleast better.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-08-2016, 12:08:50
I got the chance to quick test T9 & T10 german Bb's. manouverability is simular to the other T9 and T10 battleships. Very solid platforms, the guns slightly underperform then their counterparts, but up close the german BB's are devestating and decisive.

Seems all german BB's have the same protective scheme like the tirpitz. Wich is very good news.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 13-08-2016, 12:08:19
Funny how I have missed this thread. I really wait for german BB's, since I like to play my BB's very aggressive. On topic of secondary builds, here's my amagi some patches ago: https://youtu.be/TiNzXnt-7qo
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 14-08-2016, 10:08:38
Contact me ingame if you guys want to team up. I don't play incredibly often but it's Always nice to have at least one competent guy in the team. :D
Name's Sander93
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-08-2016, 22:08:35
I just bought the koningsberg. I wanna go all german this sunday (German BB release on thursdag 18 august) And play with das kriegsmarine!

My ingame name is theta0123   

Feel free to add me
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 17-08-2016, 01:08:35
Nurnberg, Yorck and Hipper are a blast to play.

Can't wait for the BBs, Nassau here I come ;D
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-08-2016, 13:08:03
http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/uk-cruisers-coming/

Very dissapointed to NOT see the british battleships first...
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: hslan.Grim on 17-08-2016, 15:08:56
Played this a lot some time ago. Went for the US cv and JPN battleships first since I wanted the Midway and Yamato.  Played a lot of co-op so you dont have to worry about the really bad teammates that much (even though I miss a lot myself  :D)

Still want the Midway and Yamato just for the lolz but gameplay wise I like the cruisers more. Currently playing with the Pensacola and Nurnberg and must say apart from the cleveland (which is a  beast) I like the german cruisers the most.

Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 17-08-2016, 21:08:34
http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/uk-cruisers-coming/

Very dissapointed to NOT see the british battleships first...

Did you expect otherwise? Cruiser line is the base because battleships only start at tier 3.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-08-2016, 14:08:27
http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/uk-cruisers-coming/

Very dissapointed to NOT see the british battleships first...

Did you expect otherwise? Cruiser line is the base because battleships only start at tier 3.
Then why did they release Russian's with DD's only at first?
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 18-08-2016, 17:08:46
British are overrated anyways, why even lose nerves about it. They will be sunk with high efficiency.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-08-2016, 13:08:47
Nassau= awesome
Kaiser= difficult

And now i have reached the konig. Used free exp to fully upgrade her.
And here is where she gets amazing. She gets heavier, WW2 ammo. And my god does it frikking penetrate. I have played it for 5 matches now....and i think we have a new winner for the T5 BB's.

Some people whine= what use is heavier armor when BB shells always penetrate?

You see, what most people dont get is that Cruisers with 8 inch guns with AP ammo deal infact, heavy damage to BB's. And this, is where the German BB's really stand out. I see half the damage dealt and far more non penetrations when fighting german BB's with my pensacola. And you have to close in the distance with the german BB's. For other nations BB's, this often means in way more vurnability in damage taken against shell fire but their is no diffrence like this with German BB's.


So far, the only thing less is torpedo damage reduction.   

German BB's are amazing. Cannot wait to get the bayern and gneisenau

Also i became a premium bitch, i bought the scharnhorst :>  Wich is amazing. Finnally a BB that does not fear HE Cruiser spammers and dodgers. One does not simply dodge 9 28cm shells!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 19-08-2016, 18:08:17
And I'm still there, grinding my Nassau. It's great. What's with the Kaiser?
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 19-08-2016, 20:08:56
I'm really liking Kaiser after first 11 matches. It's actually got my highest average dmg of all BB's (up Izumo and North Carolina in other trees), but obviously having tons of other BB's in every game is dragging my damage up.

Nassau on the other hand was a bit meh in my opinion, pretty much Kawachi with more accurate but less efficient guns.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2016, 00:08:45
And I'm still there, grinding my Nassau. It's great. What's with the Kaiser?
Kaiser is my bad luck vessel. No mather how many ships i sank, my win ratio in the end was 20%....T4 wise, kaiser is IMO the best BB out there

Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 20-08-2016, 09:08:09
I love the Scharnhorst, if only for variety`s sake. Feels refreshing to play a sort of battlecruiser for a change.

I`m really tempted to free XP the Bismarck (the secondary build is apparently incredibly fun to play with) but I think I will keep playing all the other ships along the grind as most of them are pretty nice ships. The tier 6 seems especially good and I`m curious how the Gneisenau plays with Tirpitz turrets instead of 283mms.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2016, 11:08:47
Well with Gneisenau you can properly engage BB's wich might me difficult for scharnhorst to do at long range

Scharnhorst can become a very effective BB fighting machine by using it 32 knots to close in the distance and fight at 6km. You have your amazing secondaries to constantly setting enemies on fire, and your 28cm AP shells ARE effective at that range.

As for gneisenau You sacrifice cruiser killing power for more BB killing power. And going 32 knots, you can dodge enemy shells way better at long range. Gneisenau also differs alot when fully upgraded. She loses her 15cm secondary batteries and 10.5cm AA guns for 11 x 2 12.8 CM DP guns. For some reason german BB's are priorities for CV's and god you make a horrible mistake by attacking Gnei. At 5.2km she has 136 damage per second with those heavy secondaries. You can DOUBLE this by researching the manual fire control. You can go to the sides of the map and try to get behind enemy lines and then easily take out CV's, using speed and the ability to quickly deter AA attacks.

Going into action against a colorado and nagato is still not in your advantage. You have to use your advantages against them.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 20-08-2016, 12:08:46
Koenig was pretty fun to play with
(https://s4.postimg.org/cibje2rod/shot_16_08_20_12_35_22_0936.jpg)

88.210 average damage lol
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2016, 13:08:00
I just got my bayern aswel. Konig was amazing to play with, i kept her.

Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 20-08-2016, 16:08:31
Kaiser is awesome dang it. Just killing the nassau swarm.

Can't wait for the König...
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2016, 10:08:44
Konig has excellent sigma values (hidden values). Dont believe the ingame dispersion. No ship will land as much shells on a target in a broadside as Konig.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 21-08-2016, 11:08:47
Skipped the Gneisenau and unlocked the Bismarck.

As far as the title 'cruiser killer' goes the Scharnhorst is nothing compared to the Bismarck lol. Full secondary spec gives 10.6km range and they absolutely tear apart cruisers. They set lots of fires. Nothing is safe. It can effectively hunt DD thanks to its hydro. Effectively there's a 10.6km immunity shield around the Bismarck. All who enter it will vanish. Been doing 30.000-60.000 secondary/fire damage almost every round lol.

What a fun ship to play! This is what a battleship should be like.

Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2016, 12:08:45
goddamit this makes me feel like skipping gneisenau aswel..

Also, i am in LOVE with the Bayern. Konig was awesome, but Bayern easily surpasses that!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-08-2016, 22:08:52
I tought i would love scharnhorst but gneisenau is so much frikking fun. 2.5 knots faster and those 11 x 2 12.8cm DP guns are a massive killer. Today i was able to kill 2 CV's in 2 matches because i punctured trough enemy lines.

Once enemy CV spotted me and sended planes, i was able to bring down many. And easily take down the CV"s

German BB's have only one major drawback= torpedos
but with ships like the gneisenau you can dodge em somewhat.

Cant wait to get manual fire control commander skill for gneisenau. This will improve accuracy with 60% for those secondaries. If i put this captain on bismarck, my god....ZHE POWER!!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 31-08-2016, 20:08:07
(http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/253713388276677586/0DFD6A5630FDE9B3C192A1095D73C63E246673B0/)
(http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/253713388276677184/156DD5E16572D013FBD175F1974826423D7F8A26/)

Oh boy  ;D
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-09-2016, 16:09:22
thats a.....reasonable profitable match.


Stopped grinding the german BB's for a while and began focusing on cruisers. ATM i got the new orleans, nurnberg and Aoba up and running.

I also bought the indianapolis.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-09-2016, 10:09:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7swsffZtYmQ

British cruisers have appeared for the super testers a while ago.
Some things that have gotten out judging by the comments
-All guns are 152mm. Fast loading and high muzzle velocity
-Amazing torpedos.
-Smaller size then other Cruisers and lower detection range
-British cruisers have smoke screens
-Very good AA but slightly less then american cruisers.
-low rudder shift time & tight turning circles

So it seems that british cruisers will play, like very large destroyers. I can dig it. Bit worried about the amount of guns from T4-T6 Tough.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 07-09-2016, 03:09:57
I've started playing this the last week. It started out ultraboring, but now it's quite entertaining.
I fucking love torpedoes, so I'm mainly running around in my japanese destroyers with my Nippon steel folded 10 000 times torpedoes
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: DaWorg! on 07-09-2016, 09:09:19
Can confirm that Gneisenau is a beast when it comes to AA. Tried attacking it with my Rangers full bomber loadout and it brought down most of the divebombers and then dodged torpedoes. I usualy take down BB's in one run with that loadout  ;D

If you guys want to team up add Admiral_Krieg .. tier 2-8
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-09-2016, 11:09:09
British cruisers have appeared on the public test server. So it wont be all that long before we get them! Finnaly brittania can rule the waves again

New japanese destroyers inbound! This means that a 2 lane tech tree for a single class is confirmed. Expect to see more American cruisers and BB's aswel!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 07-09-2016, 18:09:42
Does anyone want to kill themselves when they play Kolberg? I hate that ship with a burning passion
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 07-09-2016, 18:09:30
Does anyone want to kill themselves when they play Kolberg? I hate that ship with a burning passion

Yeah, it's bad. Still not as bad as Yorck though  >:(
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-09-2016, 21:09:24
Does anyone want to kill themselves when they play Kolberg? I hate that ship with a burning passion

Yeah, it's bad. Still not as bad as Yorck though  >:(
All T7 cruisers have that....Pensacola is fun to play untill someone fires at you....
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-09-2016, 18:09:21
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/61184-tier-vi-premium-australian-cruiser-%E2%80%93-hmas-perth/
(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14206122_1091268550956173_2880502366893105280_o.jpg)
New permium ship confirmed. HMAS Perth, a leander class.


8x 152mm guns. Fast reload of 4.7s. High muzzle velocity of 841m/s (cleveland is 780m/s)
4x 102mm DP guns. 5km range
2x4 Torpedo tubes 533mm, 8 km range. 61knots speed.  15 431 av damage
Speed of 32.5 knots


Seems like a good ship. She has the smoke generator consumable. Her AA issent all that great tough but it doesnt matter much at T6. Lower concealment then her counterparts. Less guns.
Fast torpedos tough.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Sander93 on 08-09-2016, 22:09:59
I really hope they don´t screw up the new RN cruisers. Smoke screens are borderline annoying to play against. If the Flint gives any indication....
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-09-2016, 10:09:00
Actually it can be quite the deathtrap. you are limited to be in that smoke screen, making you a prime target for torpedo attacks.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2016, 15:09:48
Prinz eugen has been released. Premium T8 Cruiser


Price, for the ship alone and a port, is 40 euros (crikey).

Almost simular performance to a Hipper tough.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 18-09-2016, 22:09:37
For some or the other reason, I cannot download this game :/

The webpage always freezes when you hit the download button..
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2016, 23:09:13
What browser do you use?

Also, i am a gullible consumer..

i got the prinz eugen :>  und it est wunderbar!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 19-09-2016, 21:09:40
tried them all :/
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-09-2016, 22:09:38
You should send a ticket to support. Unlike WOT, WOWS support is more helpfull
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-09-2016, 10:09:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI-cDEGy5VM

Nice job wargaming, nice job...
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-10-2016, 10:10:36
Well i finnaly got my German admiral to Tier 5 commander skills. Ofcourse for the german BB line, i went for Manual targeting control for the secondary batteries.

I got it 2K exp away from my bismarck. The diffrence in accuracy is immediatly noticable. On average i had a 20% hit ratio with the secondaries before the skill. Now it sits around 50% to even 60% hit ratio sometimes

On the bismarck its the primary advantage. At 10km range, the damage is okay but the amount of fires it generates is very high. Cruisers and DD's melt quickly. BB's take little damage at first but the constant unleashing of HE shells keep on generating fires.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 10-10-2016, 18:10:27
Had a funny moment in ranked game, where 3 bismarcks were sitting in smokescreen. Enemy bismarck had snuck to about 7km distance in his smoke and got spotted. So our bismarcks opened on all guns at him while still invisible. It was funny looking fireshow  :P Not so fun for enemy.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 13-10-2016, 01:10:37
When I launch the game and join the first battle, my ship gets out of sync. This goes to the point where it is moving erratically forward, backwards and sidewards across the pond. The error stays in the next battles afterwards. If I shut down the game and restart, the error seems to be gone. Still, it is annoying. This came up with the latest patch for me and I hope they will fix this.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-10-2016, 11:10:52
British cruisers have been released!! Including HMS belfast! SET SAIL AND RULE BRITANNIA!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-11-2016, 16:11:55
Its a great week for the kriegsmarine. German DD's are confirmed and models are already finished. They will hit testing server very soon

More important, a new T6 german premium ship has been announched....
(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14940010_1150941288322232_3008955816612139969_o.jpg)
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-12-2016, 09:12:06
Big WOWS update today! Including the german destroyer tech branch, aaaand the mighty graf spee!
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 03-01-2017, 00:01:50
I got my problems solved.

And I got a free slot. I just don't know what to buy yet.

(http://oi68.tinypic.com/25zmd04.jpg)

1. I cannot buy the Tier 7 Battleship Nagato as the Tier 6 Battleship Fuso has not been fully developed.

2. I don't want to buy the Tier 6 Cruiser Aoba because I expect her to perform badly. It got almost the same specifications as the Furutaka, 3 double turrets, same caliber, just one tier higher where it will face much harder opponents.

3. I could keep the Tier 2 Destoyer Umikaze and go up the destroyer branch, without having to sell Umikaze. But my impression is, that the destroyer branch is totally crowded, meaning there are too many people playing them. Usually half of the ships in a battle are destroyers, and it is much less fun to fight destroyers with a destroyer instead of torping the big whales.

4. I could buy the Tier 5 Carrier Zuiho without having to sell the Tier 4 Carrier Hosho. I really like the Hosho, but I've heard bad things about the carrier branch and the japanese carrier branch in particular. From what I've heard it is kinda unplayable, no fun, unfair, whatever. Plus: I barely see any carriers above tier 4, which seems to confirm this.

Does anyone have suggestions?
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 03-01-2017, 00:01:30
Ah, you should have asked for an invite code before you started, then you would have gotten a free Diana and Texas.

Anyway,
1. -

2. I played Furutaka and Aoba long ago. When I was playing Furutaka, it was still worse than it is now, so my views may not be 100% accurate. But I liked the Aoba a lot more. To me, it was the excellent sweet spott between the Furutaka and the Myoko (I didn't really like the Furutaka and Myoko that much). I had a lot of excellent games in the Aoba and missed her really badly when i got my Myoko. About the matchmaking: Tier 5 has the worst matchmaking of any tier (tier 6 also has pretty bad matchmaking though, but it's less bad). Just keep in mind that in the current BB meta, playing a cruiser at higher tiers will automatically put endless lock-ons on your ship, so if you would go for it, keep your speed up and hug the shadows.

3. Umikaze is OP at its tier, so don't think all jap DDs will be as good. They used to be the best branch up to tier 7, but patch after patch, they have been made worse and worse, and the next captain skills patch seems to make them even worse. At the moment, I can't strongly recommend any DD, but if you'd want to play DDs, then I'd so go for the American ones.

4. Some patches ago, carriers were overpowered as hell, then the nerf hit. At higher tiers, jap carriers are the best, but i personally don't enjoy playing them. I liked playing them when they were OP, just because playing in godmode was kinda fun. But now, i get more frustrated than I get joy out of it. Also keep in mind carrier captains are crucial in a game. When everything goes smooth, no-one notices it, when it goes bad and you didn't fully do your job, or people are getting killed by enemy planes and you're on the composition without fighters, people will report you for playing poorly.

Suggestion:
Play the German BB line. Best ships I've ever played.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 03-01-2017, 02:01:59
^^ Hey thanks!

I started a long time ago. I just don't have time to play. I guess, I had an average of 1 game per day since then.

The german Emden and the US Albany Tier 2 cruisers have been free giveaways, I guess I'll grind them a bit longer.

2. I really have so much fun in the Furutaka, it is my money grinder No. 1. I don't even mind getting thrown into tier 7 battles. It's great if you can achieve a hit with your quad torpedos having 10km range, with a damage of 10k each. You know how wargaming.net is adjusting specs, so playing expirience might have changed over time. But as you say, high tier cruisers are obviously a pain to play.

3. I have no gold, I cannot afford slots, in order to max effects I concentrate on 1 nation: Japan. Having many different nations is very stressful for your barracks, and with the greatful number of 3 free barrack slots even more stressful. I got 3 more captains at level 8 or level 9, waiting to occupy ships from tier 2 upwards. So I won't take the american DD branch. And I guess I wait with the japanese DD branch either.

4. I'm not very interested in high tiers. I haven't been in World of Tanks either. I'm rather interested in fun tiers or fun vehicles. Having a rate of 1 game per day, I will play poorly, sometimes. I don't feel like getting harrassed by top tier kiddies who fell for the idea that it's the greatest shit to go for top tiers. That is the wargaming.net revenue model. If Tier 4 carriers aren't crucial, Tier 5 might be ok then. Maybe I buy that carrier then.

Edit:// Furutaka in battle:

(http://oi65.tinypic.com/risw7d.jpg)
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 03-01-2017, 03:01:28
You're welcome :)

Ah... The Emden, lovely ship  8)

3. I don't really understand how other nations take up more port slots. You only need 1. Just research next ship, sell the ship, and buy the new ship in that slot that became empty by selling the previous one.

4. Carriers can still be crucial, but they jump out more when they lack than when they do their job well. There is little more frustrating to me than seeing an AFK carrier on my team, or a carrier that does next to nothing. A good or very bad CV driver can have more impact on the game than any other player in my opinion. Carriers can provide great value for a team, but limited value in a personal sense for the carrier driver. Currently the most important job of a carrier is spotting ships (especially DD's) and killing enemy air strikes, but spotting and planekilling barely pays off for the CV driver. I have given up on carriers, like most players. Only carrier that interests me atm would be the Saipan, but no way i'm going to pay for that. Would be happy though if a luck crate would give it to me. If I were you, I wouldn't go down the carrier path, unless you really liked the Hosho. Also keep in mind that at tier 5, you'll meet a lot of Bogues, which is a bit too strong for tier 5, which turned it into a very popular sea clubber (read: you may encounter more experienced captains in better ships against you). Tier 5 also has the worst matchmaking in the game, so you'll have reasonably high chances of ending up in tier 7 games, which means your planes become useless against these ships because their AA is too good.

If you are looking for tiers with good matchmaking, best matchmaking can be found at tier 7 (tier 10 excluded), most games you play, you'll be fighting tier 5. Only very rarely you'll encounter tier 9. Tiers 1, 3 and 4 also have nice matchmaking.

PS: Might also be interesting to hear other captains their experiences before taking these decisions, after all, everything i'm typing here is just my opinion, which is far from perfect :)
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 03-01-2017, 09:01:04
Dukat I think you missed that you are supposed to sell old ships and move commanders to next in line, unless you really really want to keep them all. I think furutaka got substantial buff, since before it only had it's stock configuration, but now it apparently is beast at tier 5. My friend kept it and still plays it, I'm yet to try it again. I'd also say tiers 6-8 are the sweetspot for casual player.

Like born2kill, I'd recommend german BB line (with manual fire secondaries at tier 7 & 8 ) and US DD line. I feel higher I go the cruiser lines, more of punch bag I am and less of usefull part of my team. Possible exception being russian cruisers, they are just nasty at tier 6-8, with fire chance skills and flags, they burn battleships like no tommorrow.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-01-2017, 10:01:17
At US BB's i'm at t9 iowa
At US CL i'm at T8 new orleans
At German BB's i'm at T8 bismarck
At German DD's T5
British CL's T7 Fiji
Japanese BB's and CL at T7.

One of the best battleship lines for amazing all round playing, i highly reccomend, as Ajappat did, to go German battleships. They are slightly more vurnable to long range fire, as they can be citadelled (speaking beyond 16km), but at close range, things change, alot.

First of all, the armour. Its extremely tough, you will find that its very difficult to citadel a german BB. So get in close. Dont forget to angle the armour tough.

Second, the primary guns. They are a bit wonky at long range, but at close range they are powerfull. Bismarck might have smaller guns and less... But they still punch trough a North carolina and Nagato's belt armour, and in return, these ships are not as good at close range.

Third, and very very important= Secondary batteries. Starting at gneisenau, they become extremely powerfull. Gneisenau has 12 x 2 12.8cm guns. And a maximum range at 7.6km.
Bismarck carries 8x2 10.5cm and 6x2 15cm secondary guns at a maximum range of >>10.6<< km. Higher then any of its tiers and equal to T10 BB's. Then once you reach the magnificent T5 skill manual fire control, they are the best secondaries out their. DD's and Cruiser health melts in sight of these guns. BB's can withstand the 10.5cm's, but not the 15cm's, and then you have the fire chance, wich basically allows you to fire AP at the enemy with your primaries, but a cleveland is at your broadside firing HE at them.

And at T8 starting, german BB's get hydro. Very handy for torpedos

But most importanty with german BB's= GET in CLOSE.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 03-01-2017, 11:01:37
You both seem fond of Manual Fire secondaries, it's that good? So far, i've always picked other skills for a few reasons. While I do think they can melt enemies, I do love my secondaries as DD warning. DDs are most dangerous to me when I'm already fighting a different target. When I then suddenly hear (more of) my secondaries roar into action, I know that I have to start maneuvring towards the DD to dodge incoming torpedoes and fire some nice shells into that DD. Another thing about Manual Fire is that the result of only firing on command, means that you can only use one side of your hull for secondaries. I love sailing in between my enemies and just giving out presents with my secondaries on both sides. All in all, I see Manual Fire as an improvement, but never considered it worth 5 captain points (except maybe on the Bismarck). Am I wrong in this? So far, I've went with fire prevention stuff and manual AA instead (as AA still fires with that skill, even when you don't order it to, just less powerful then) and can't say I regret it so far. I've seen carriers go apeshit when they attack me thinking I'm an easy pick as German BB, and then end up losing whole waves of their airplanes without them even damaging me.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-01-2017, 12:01:11
The diffrence is quite big, as i found my amount of hits up by almost 200%.
As for bismarck
On average, if i have 100k damage in a battle, i find 20 000 of this damage done by my secondary batteries
This not counting fires, wich can easily add another 15k. You can never net the same results with North carolina nor amagi. Yet once you get in range with those ships, its very powerfull

As a cruiser, never get into range of an amagi. Its 14cm guns fire AP shells wich rip trough you very easily

North carolina has a balanced set of secondaries, not as good as bismarck, but still decent enough.

The thing is, people look at BB's as snipers. Dont be a sniper, be a brawler. play a BB aggressivly and you can even find yourself taking out DD's at close range
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 03-01-2017, 12:01:48
The thing is, people look at BB's as snipers. Dont be a sniper, be a brawler. play a BB aggressivly and you can even find yourself taking out DD's at close range

I agree for German BBs, but not for all BBs. Attack and brawl together with DDs in your Iowa and you'll find yourself back in port very very very quickly. At tier 9+, teams very rarely actively support pushes, and you'll just find yourself getting shot at by like 8 enemy players (or at least, that's my experience in it). If you reverse, you won't be out in time. If you turn, the second you show broadside, you're dead. It's mostly why I stopped playing my Iowa. I don't really feel like sticking with the blob and just sniping all game. Right now I'm enjoying my German BBs which encourage you plenty to go full Leeroy-Jenkins  ;D
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 03-01-2017, 14:01:05
Yeah, I love secondaries in Gneisenau and Bismarck. Together with fires they set, it's not rare that they amount up to 30% of dmg done. I have secondary Yamato and tried secondary build with Grosse, but 10,6km secondaries are just not enough in campy playstyle of tier 9 and 10 games.

And the playstyle of highest tiers is my biggest gripe with this game atm. I just can't stand how passive it is, it's like people don't care for caps at all. And I don't think WG making everyone always pay full repair cost even with no dmg taken helped at all. It just made tier 9 and 10 way more expensive to play. Then to top that off, there's actually no reason to even play tier 10, there's no clan wars, there's nothing.  Just over expensive ships with boring gameplay.

So unlocking new ships just to find new favourites to play for fun is the way to go imho.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: FHMax3 on 08-01-2017, 12:01:16
I got my problems solved.

And I got a free slot. I just don't know what to buy yet.

(http://oi68.tinypic.com/25zmd04.jpg)

1. I cannot buy the Tier 7 Battleship Nagato as the Tier 6 Battleship Fuso has not been fully developed.

2. I don't want to buy the Tier 6 Cruiser Aoba because I expect her to perform badly. It got almost the same specifications as the Furutaka, 3 double turrets, same caliber, just one tier higher where it will face much harder opponents.

3. I could keep the Tier 2 Destoyer Umikaze and go up the destroyer branch, without having to sell Umikaze. But my impression is, that the destroyer branch is totally crowded, meaning there are too many people playing them. Usually half of the ships in a battle are destroyers, and it is much less fun to fight destroyers with a destroyer instead of torping the big whales.

4. I could buy the Tier 5 Carrier Zuiho without having to sell the Tier 4 Carrier Hosho. I really like the Hosho, but I've heard bad things about the carrier branch and the japanese carrier branch in particular. From what I've heard it is kinda unplayable, no fun, unfair, whatever. Plus: I barely see any carriers above tier 4, which seems to confirm this.

Does anyone have suggestions?
Try the Russian Cruisers. They are among the best and the Tier X Battlecrusier Moskva is an absolute BEAST. If you want premium I recommend the Mikail Kutuzov and the Molotov.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Dukat on 10-01-2017, 00:01:39
I bought the tier 3 destroyer Wakatake. I'm quite happy so far.

I only had made a mistake choosing the skills for the Umikaze Captain, picking a wrong skill by accident. I realized that now when I moved him to the Wakatake. After I had grinded him to level 10. I exchanged him for a level 8 Captain from the barracks, which means I have to grind additional 75k to get this captain to level 10, befor I can start with my goals I had for the Wakatake from level 10 upwards. Gladly Wakatake isn't that bad.

Thanks for all replies on this matter.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: ajappat on 08-03-2017, 18:03:23
Tsih.  ;D

https://gfycat.com/DelayedHideousCougar
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2017, 16:03:51
-First italian premium ship announched. The Duca D'Aosta. Wich is a condottieri class light cruiser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condottieri-class_cruiser

She will be tier 6, having a simular appearance to the leander class cruiser however
-8x152mm guns
-6x100mm guns
-2x3 533mm torpedo launchers
-37 knot speed
-very light armor
-Better AA guns
(Keep in mind, the Battleship Roma was also confirmed a while ago, so she might appear soon aswel!)

-French cruiser line announched.
https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/updates/oh-la-la/
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 10-03-2017, 03:03:11
Tsih.  ;D

https://gfycat.com/DelayedHideousCougar
lol, nice :P
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2017, 14:04:29
-The USS Alabama has been released! The US Finnaly have a T8 premium ship. She is a south dakota class. compared to a north carolina, Her armor is more effective at shorter ranges, she is 12 meters shorter, turns  a bit tighter and has worser dispersion (mostly vertical)
https://worldofwarships-eu.gcdn.co/dcont/fb/image/tmb/8541907a-ff5a-11e6-be91-ac162d8bc1e4_1200x.jpg

-French cruisers are inbound for the last week of April (maybe the third depending on how testing goes).
The French T10 Cruiser will have 240mm guns!

-HMS Hood has been announched. She will be released in late april, together with the first italian ship "Duca D"aosta".
https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17492980_1284250458324647_1142209096654004362_o.jpg?oh=e90a3f8c910aa63783eb55c5dca33136&oe=5960981F

-Italian tech tree confirmed. They will be launched with cruisers first.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 01-04-2017, 16:04:57
Game is unplayable for me at the moment. Every game, it disconnects me. Not much of a problem if you're a DD and it happens 10 seconds after the start, but pretty shit if you're a cruiser in the mid of the fight showing broadside... From 100% to 0% in 1 loading screen. Asked around and seems to be common since the patch.

PS: In regards to the Italian cruisers: don't believe all the announcements today, it's April 1st. I expect UK BBs and maybe even French BBs first.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: FHMax3 on 01-04-2017, 17:04:47
Game is unplayable for me at the moment. Every game, it disconnects me. Not much of a problem if you're a DD and it happens 10 seconds after the start, but pretty shit if you're a cruiser in the mid of the fight showing broadside... From 100% to 0% in 1 loading screen. Asked around and seems to be common since the patch.

PS: In regards to the Italian cruisers: don't believe all the announcements today, it's April 1st. I expect UK BBs and maybe even French BBs first.
There will be submarines for April 1st  ;D
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2017, 19:04:56

PS: In regards to the Italian cruisers: don't believe all the announcements today, it's April 1st. I expect UK BBs and maybe even French BBs first.
Nope, this was mentioned long before april fools. ETA for italian cruisers is not known yet.

As it seems its first french cruisers, then either Italian cruisers or British battleships.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 01-04-2017, 23:04:48
Ah nice, I thought French cruisers, BBs and UK BBs were next. Happy to hear about the Italians, I was so disappointed when I heard the French navy would be here before them.
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-04-2017, 20:04:02
Ah nice, I thought French cruisers, BBs and UK BBs were next. Happy to hear about the Italians, I was so disappointed when I heard the French navy would be here before them.
Rumours from the supertester server points towards British Battleships first. and then probaly italian cruisers, then towards french BB's and UK Destroyers.

They often release a premium ship before the announchement of a new tech tree line, so the arrival of hood, the most iconic british battlecruiser ever, cannot be a coincidence
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-05-2017, 20:05:24
-Somewhat confirmed= British battleships confirmed! And...only 2 patches away.... And 0.6.5 is already this month. T10 is appearntly a modified Lion class battleship wich will have 4x2 457mm guns.

-American cruiser split incoming. There will be a Heavy cruiser and a light cruiser split. T10 for the light cruisers will be Worcester class

-French battleships will come in 2018. Quite intresting. But its not to difficult to make a tech tree for them.
T3-Danton modified. The danton pre-dreadnoughts had plannes on the table to add 305mm guns on the beam
T4- Courbet(6x2 305mm)
T5- Bretange(5x2 340mm)
T6- Normandie (3x4 340mm)
T7- Lyon (4 x 4 340mm or 8/10 380mm)
T8- Richelieu (2x4 380mm)
T9- Alsace (3x4 380mm or 3x3 406mm)
T10- Upsized alsace (appearntly named gascogne) (3x4 406mm)
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-06-2017, 17:06:54
BRITISH BATTLESHIPS CONFIRMED AND TEASED

(http://i.imgur.com/xHYCzB3.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8gWa15ziXA


Things we know so far=
King George V class as T7
Rodney as Premium ship, most likely T8
Lion class as T9
Conqueror as T10 (4x2 457mm guns)
Radar
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 06-06-2017, 21:06:39
I still hope that the radar screenshot was just a troll from WG. I already hate the Missouri enough when I'm in my DDs... Why do they have to stick every consumable on every ship type?
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2018, 16:09:05
To those still intrested in this game

Submarines are going to be added to the game

This is for real
Title: Re: World of Warships - Open Beta
Post by: Torenico on 25-09-2018, 02:09:01
Subs will be interesting, despite their intended role not to engage a fleet and sink 5 ships...


We'll see how they play out on Halloween event.