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Title: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 20-03-2015, 20:03:10
Coming shortly.

Crossing the Finnish Line

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=464
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: RAnDOOm on 20-03-2015, 21:03:54
Very nice looking.

But were the screenshots taken with the best gfx specially the shadows and the AA is not maximum or is it just me ?

Hope the map itself does not look like the screenshots.

Nevertheless well done fellas! Top notch.   ;)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-03-2015, 21:03:19
The Finns are in!

Yes, btw, this was my first loading map screen done in Photoshop 8). You can view it in the maps\eastern front\sammatus.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 20-03-2015, 21:03:07
This map is awesome, the gameplay is perfect and should be a fan favorite. You guys are gonna love it 8)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 20-03-2015, 21:03:20
But were the screenshots taken with the best gfx specially the shadows and the AA is not maximum or is it just me ?

Hope the map itself does not look like the screenshots.
All settings high, AA forced to x24 via Catalyst.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: mopskind on 20-03-2015, 22:03:07
Looking Sweet! :) Though i somehow thought about strange/missing shadows too at the first look ???
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 20-03-2015, 22:03:53
Oh cool, a vodka drinking contest! (And we all know who's gonna win that one!) :P

Thanks devs, can't wait to try and stop the Russians with sticks and stones while swearing obsessively in drunk Finnish!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-03-2015, 22:03:42
And so our initiative of only making maps that are annoying to airshark begins!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Airshark79 on 20-03-2015, 22:03:29
Cool shit

Edit: You had like 3 good maps so %100 increase is pretty substantial
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: 0utlaw on 21-03-2015, 00:03:08
nice map, looks fun.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ctbear on 21-03-2015, 02:03:11
YOOOOO, nice
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-03-2015, 08:03:01
Yea!Finaly!FINNS ARE INNNNNNN!Beautiful map looking!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Klimax on 21-03-2015, 08:03:23
How about a vodka injection bar? If u activate it, your soldier get's drunk and starts singing. And of course the aiming is a little difficultie.
@LuckyOne

And yes, Finland is a awesome addition for FH2!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: penaa on 21-03-2015, 08:03:51
Yees! Thank you FH2 team, Finland is here!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: valleyman on 21-03-2015, 09:03:50
Beautiful!  Keep it up team.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LazMan12 on 21-03-2015, 14:03:14
It seems the Finns won't get any armour, but will they have some AT guns or is it going to be a satchell-sneaking party all round :D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-03-2015, 14:03:14
As I saw,Soviets have T34 model 1943 and Su-76,and Finns dont have even single Pak(aldo it is shown on map picture)....This will be for Finns strugling for life.. 8)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 21-03-2015, 14:03:55
The Finns have several Paks including 75mm Pak 40s.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 21-03-2015, 14:03:51
Yep Finns will get a few paks and plenty of fausts to counter the Russian armor. It's gonna be tough for the tanks to roll through those trenches too.

Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 21-03-2015, 14:03:03
The Finns have several Paks including 75mm Pak 40s.

... and a bunch of other unannounced equipment! :D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Alubat on 21-03-2015, 16:03:04
The Finns have several Paks including 75mm Pak 40s.

... and a bunch of other unannounced equipment! :D

Nokia field army telephone ?

Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Oberst on 21-03-2015, 16:03:13
Nice static houses!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Turkish007 on 21-03-2015, 17:03:13
Damn! Looking good, love it!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: nysä on 21-03-2015, 17:03:47
Great!  ;D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-03-2015, 18:03:46
Nice new watchtowers!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 21-03-2015, 20:03:46
Forgot to mention the Finns get a nice new camo for their pak 40s ;D it's based off Toivo Ilomäki's pak that took out 16(?) russian vehicles during the actual battle.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-03-2015, 20:03:27
Forgot to mention the Finns get a nice new camo for their pak 40s ;D it's based off Toivo Ilomäki's pak that took out 16(?) russian vehicles during the actual battle.

It's not just his PaK, it was a "standard" camo pattern used on many things. Lance Corporal Ilomäki destroyed 17 Red Army tanks during the afternoon on 24th of June 1944 when the battle on PSS-line started, including Sammatus where Ilomäki was stationed. Most, if not all, vehicles that he and his crew destroyed were T-34's. Overall he destroyed 21 tanks in total. He was awarded the Mannerheim Cross of Liberty. The PaK40 he used in the battle of Sammatus can be seen at the Parola armour museum: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toivo_Ilom%C3%A4ki#/media/File:Pak40_parola_1.jpg
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: nysä on 22-03-2015, 12:03:59
One question - are the T-34 and SU-76M both equipped with HE rounds?
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Comrade Roe on 22-03-2015, 14:03:38
https://33.media.tumblr.com/36e5dfc9877eaaca3f9acc9d7f541b9e/tumblr_na7w5u50Uo1t9x9ito2_400.gif

I can't wait.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-03-2015, 15:03:52
One question - are the T-34 and SU-76M both equipped with HE rounds?
yes
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: nysä on 22-03-2015, 15:03:13
Nice. This also comes in handy clearing out those trenches and whatnot.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 22-03-2015, 17:03:42
 Looks really good.

 Will this map have Finnish Commander Radio?

 Also, this makes 3 map previews for the EF:

-Dukla Pass
-Arad
-Sammatus

So, im willing to wait a bit longer if we can get the number to 5 or more......



 ;D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-03-2015, 19:03:26
So, im willing to wait a bit longer if we can get the number to 5 or more......

Funny, I can think of 2 other EF maps in the beta that are moving in that direction ;D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: tempest on 22-03-2015, 20:03:47
Nice, I hope there will be a couple smaller, more close-quarters fights though!  All the maps so far seem medium to large-sized.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-03-2015, 20:03:32
This one is pretty small (the smallest planned for the first russian release). It's an infantry map. The overall map is 1x1km and you can see how much of that is playable.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 22-03-2015, 21:03:47
MFW I saw this.. Well it's in the avatar so.. I'm pretty hyped.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: tempest on 22-03-2015, 21:03:13
This one is pretty small (the smallest planned for the first russian release). It's an infantry map. The overall map is 1x1km and you can see how much of that is playable.

It does look good!  I guess I'm just secretly hoping for something set in Stalingrad or Berlin ;)  I do enjoy a good trench map and I'm sure this one will be fun.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-03-2015, 22:03:56
Unfortunately, Stalingrad falls to early in the war for the time frame we are developing for (43-45).
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-03-2015, 22:03:29
To nitpick, Stalingrad ended in 43.  ;)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Alubat on 22-03-2015, 22:03:41
Warsaw Uprising & Siege of Budapest   :)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: sn00x on 23-03-2015, 00:03:09
Oh how we had fun
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: tempest on 23-03-2015, 06:03:01
Warsaw Uprising & Siege of Budapest   :)

Was the Warsaw Uprising that apparently used to be in the mod an official map, or part of a map pack?
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 23-03-2015, 06:03:56
Woot! Looks great! I'm so happy the Finns will be in the first Eastern Front release.

Any chance we'll see a Finn M91 Mosins in addition to the M39 variants? Those older, pre 91/30 Mosins are so much sexier. I would know since I own one :D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-03-2015, 07:03:04
This is nice,but will Eastern front be realised with 43-45 maps(around 10? of them) or you will wait until you develop also 41-43 maps?
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kubador on 23-03-2015, 08:03:13
(around 10? of them)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/rI1R79O.jpg)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-03-2015, 08:03:49
(around 10? of them)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/rI1R79O.jpg)
What?Thats why there is "?" And more or less?

Also there isnt map with airplanes yet....
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Prx!! on 23-03-2015, 10:03:56
This one is pretty small (the smallest planned for the first russian release). It's an infantry map. The overall map is 1x1km and you can see how much of that is playable.

here is some honest feedback. i never do this, well here it goes.

First the map overall looks pretty damn awesome, ofcourse i cant walk around in the map right now but the textures look great. And you guys took alot of time to make the map complete, lots of little details.

That being said i am a bit disappointed in the mapsize you choose to use. especially since there is only 1 server wich support 100 players. And as i have seen before, some maps are not being used by 762 due to a 100 players trying to play a small map that wasnt made for that. thats a waste of a good map, and time and effort. I would have loved to see a bigger map, more room to move around, more vehicles.

Maybe its me getting old  :P But the reason for me to start playing forgotten hope where the maps and the different armies introduced in a ww2 game never seen before anywhere else, this on a bigger map scale. tanks, infantry, planes ect. FH2 is taking a step towards a cod2/cs game. Guiding players into inf killingzones is a job for cod.  this is what i think. I was excited when i saw a dev blog about Prokhorovka.. finally a 100 player map that would incorporate all great things about fh2.

you may hate me for this but this is my honest oppinion. Make bigger maps that satisfy tankers and pilots as well as infantry players. (just started with mapping, this is my goal!)


Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: hitm4k3r on 23-03-2015, 11:03:45
That being said i am a bit disappointed in the mapsize you choose to use. especially since there is only 1 server wich support 100 players. And as i have seen before, some maps are not being used by 762 due to a 100 players trying to play a small map that wasnt made for that. thats a waste of a good map, and time and effort. I would have loved to see a bigger map, more room to move around, more vehicles.

Maybe its me getting old  :P But the reason for me to start playing forgotten hope where the maps and the different armies introduced in a ww2 game never seen before anywhere else, this on a bigger map scale. tanks, infantry, planes ect. FH2 is taking a step towards a cod2/cs game. Guiding players into inf killingzones is a job for cod.  this is what i think. I was excited when i saw a dev blog about Prokhorovka.. finally a 100 player map that would incorporate all great things about fh2.

Who said, that we are at the finnish line yet?  :P
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Prx!! on 23-03-2015, 12:03:55
I never said that. I was just expressing my thoughts about fh2 and some maps ive seen. Im giving honost feedback instead of replying Looks awesome! great! i want to play!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: hitm4k3r on 23-03-2015, 12:03:58
I never said that we demand any applause or anything and it was not my point. Fact is, that it has been stated several times allready that FH2 offers a variety of scales for the maps. Tunis is in the mod since ages just to give you an idea that it always has been like that. There is not an agenda that makes us say' "Hey, lets do a gallofdudy-map". People choose their scenarios carefully, keeping in mind that large scale battles are more difficult and require more workload.

Dukla is pretty huge and Arad is about the same size as Eppeldorf with the emphasis on combined arms warfare. Pegasus works pretty much the same way as it did in FH0.7 in terms of scale and size. All I can say is, stay relaxed and wait patiently for the things that are in the works. I think, there will be something for everybody in the upcoming patches. In the meantime you can enjoy the pacific maps, hop on the pubby for your normal round of FH2vanilla or keep looking forward to future updates to the CMP.

Show me a game where it is like that, that you have a wide selection of maps, vehicles and where stuff gets constantly updated. Sometimtes I think, that we are really spoiled within this community  ;)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Prx!! on 23-03-2015, 12:03:00
agreed on all your statements listed above. just my thought here.
And i know its easy for me to say this and that.

in fact..  keep looking forward to future updates to the CMP.  --> working on that  ;D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 23-03-2015, 12:03:55
I never said that. I was just expressing my thoughts about fh2 and some maps ive seen. Im giving honost feedback instead of replying Looks awesome! great! i want to play!

I'm glad you took the time to give honest feedback, trust me, it's apprechiated. :D

As for the map, like hitmaker said, we can't really make EVERY map appeal to EVERY players play style. We try to vary the scales based on what the mapper feels like doing and also what fits the history of the battle.

That beig said tho, this map may seem small but trust me it plays big. It doesn't play anything like Bardia for example which is just a grenade bowl. :P
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kubador on 23-03-2015, 13:03:00
A forest is quite a different beast than a city with limited access.

@Ivancic1941

Sorry, didn't want to be rude there. It's always a surprise for me how people imagine the scale of releases. I can't remember any release with anything close to 10 maps. 10 eastern front in the future? Looks feasible but not in one go.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 23-03-2015, 16:03:28
Is that the distant sound of Russian tanks that I hear ? Gotta finnish my turnip and pontikka breakfast  :o
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-03-2015, 21:03:52
I never said that. I was just expressing my thoughts about fh2 and some maps ive seen. Im giving honost feedback instead of replying Looks awesome! great! i want to play!

I'm glad you took the time to give honest feedback, trust me, it's apprechiated. :D

As for the map, like hitmaker said, we can't really make EVERY map appeal to EVERY players play style. We try to vary the scales based on what the mapper feels like doing and also what fits the history of the battle.

That beig said tho, this map may seem small but trust me it plays big. It doesn't play anything like Bardia for example which is just a grenade bowl. :P

I can understand people liking bigger maps. That being said, I think some of you might be seeing FH1 through rose tinted nostalgia goggles, considering that mod also had maps like Pavlov's House and Zielona Gora  ;). That being said, Sammatus is bigger than those, but it brings you the same kind of trench and forest action as ZG.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-03-2015, 22:03:58
This one is pretty small (the smallest planned for the first russian release). It's an infantry map. The overall map is 1x1km and you can see how much of that is playable.
Lies! It was 1x1km originally but playable area was too close to the map egdes so at one point Kev4000 decided to change it into a regular 2x2km map with his weird codding voodoo magic. Distance between mainbases is 1km (probably even slightly more). There was no finnish main base on original map and there was secondary terrain already visible in the place of the lake on the bottom of the map:

Spoiler
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Sammatus/minimap.jpg)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 23-03-2015, 22:03:45
Lies! It was 1x1km originally but playable area was to close to the map egdes so at one point Kev4000 decided to change it into a regular 2x2km map with his weird codding voodoo magic.

Really? So I guess the playable area is the same, just there's more oob area? It makes sense cause it really doesn't feel like a small map at all tbh
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-03-2015, 22:03:42
Really? So I guess the playable area is the same, just there's more oob area? It makes sense cause it really doesn't feel like a small map at all tbh
Yup, playable area was increased slightly only in the area near the Finnish main base other than that it was only a visual update to get rid of ugly secondary terrain, but it probably happened long before you joined the team so you haven't had a chance to see the difference ;)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-03-2015, 23:03:19
Are you sure it wasn't 512x512 1-Scale before? Cause we recently noticed that it is scale 1 (which we usually don't do, except Sfakia).

edit: checked the files, it is 1x1. Dukla Pass is 2x2, compare the size of buildings on the minimap for scale:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Sammatus/minimap.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Dukla%20Pass/minimap.jpg)

So yeah it was 512 x 512 originally.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-03-2015, 23:03:05
Oh yeah, true, it probably was 512x512 before. Still doesn't feel that small since it's an infantry mostly map.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-03-2015, 23:03:36
A forest is quite a different beast than a city with limited access.

@Ivancic1941

Sorry, didn't want to be rude there. It's always a surprise for me how people imagine the scale of releases. I can't remember any release with anything close to 10 maps. 10 eastern front in the future? Looks feasible but not in one go.
Aaa so there we are .. Less than 10 makes it that EF is pretty close ;D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 24-03-2015, 01:03:28
Well it's not always the maps that take time. Remember the devs are creating a whole new army from nothing. There's still animations that need tweaking, sounds synced, bug fixes, coding work etc...

With all that in mind tho, I wouldn't say Russia is too far off :D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: sn00x on 25-03-2015, 01:03:00


(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Sammatus/minimap.jpg)


Well, atleast my roads and flags are still the same :p more or less (y)
This is for the better.
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 25-03-2015, 22:03:14
I hope next EF map will be with PLANES..... 8)
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Prx!! on 26-03-2015, 08:03:30
Ts4EVER
''seeing FH1 through rose tinted nostalgia goggles....''

I can't deny that i do :D
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 26-03-2015, 11:03:52
Warsaw Uprising & Siege of Budapest   :)

Was the Warsaw Uprising that apparently used to be in the mod an official map, or part of a map pack?
It was part of a mappack. 
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Moku on 01-04-2015, 10:04:07
Oh dear! Been so long since I last checked how FH2 was doing and what do I see: map with Finns!!!
Title: Re: Crossing the Finnish Line - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 01-04-2015, 12:04:53
Oh dear! Been so long since I last checked how FH2 was doing and what do I see: map with Finns!!!

For 10€, you can watch a live webcam of Ts4EVER as he works on maps and scratches himself.


 ;D