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Suggestions / Kar98K Sounds
« on: 09-10-2011, 07:10:27 »
This powerful rifle sounds like suppressed, as pointed out by Yustax.

I guess it should have more echoing sounds like SMLE No.4 to make it more powerful. I played MAFIA 2 and have the impression that the Kar98K should more or less have this kind of characteristics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM0-oZ6VzCU&feature=related

Although I believe that FH2 version sound more realistic. Speaking of the real sounds, I really can't find a video which depict its characteristics, perhaps due to low fidelity camera microphone in most of the recordings. A video like below this, where a guy shoots his Kar98K, sounds very generic with typical firecracker cracking sound, I've been to local shooting range yesterday, and even the modern pistols sounds just like that from distance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGZyVXJdTk

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Off-Topic / Violence in London
« on: 09-08-2011, 04:08:14 »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14450248

It makes me remember my city 13 years ago. Mass looting, rapes, thrashing, burning, etc. It also started with mysterious shootings of 3 peaceful-protesting students.

It ends with indiscriminate automatic rifle fire towards the thugs. Nothing can't stop them for 3 days straight. The body count has never been agreed since then.

It left me with some disgusting memory, some of the loots (e.g. washing machine, TV, refrigerator, stereo sets...) end up in a traditional and black market, and some shameless people buying these looted goods for less price.

It saddens me more that this happened in a more industrialized, advanced, human rights-aware and the home of amnesty international... the United Kingdom. It shows that us humans aren't much different from each other.

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This is quite an improvement compared to FH2.3. Hats off to Remick04 and team for the AI despite having to keep up with the main MP team to release the 2.4 in time. Other than the greatly improved gameplay, the singleplayer experience is golden on its own.

Bots can cross the bridge, though with some difficulties. At default difficulty settings, they have lousy aim, but okay. Tanker bots are now deadlier. And more...

So far, I found:

1. Player entering Hanomag (Sdkfz. i don't know which) in Eppeldorf cause the game to crash.
2. Meuse River will eventually CTD by itself for unknown reason (still investigating).

This is what happened in my rig, a 32-bit Windows XP SP3-running machine. There are no lag issues or whatsoever.

Have you guys found any in default FH2.4 SP?

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Off-Topic / The Past Seemed Better, but...
« on: 06-07-2011, 07:07:44 »
I had an argument with my parents and some older people. Why when we look at the past, things were seemingly better? Numerous plague and disease are discovered each day, news of disasters highlighted in every newspapers. Rapture anyone?

In the past, nobody in Bangkok gives a shit when a volcano erupted in Santorini, New York, London, knew nothing for the next few months when Krakatoa erupted, but they jumped on every news cables about oncoming tsunami wave before it even struck Japan. I was aware of the tsunami, 35 minutes before it arrived in Sendai, thanks to BBC.co.uk and USGS.
In the past, so few recalled that 2 jumbo jets collided at each other in Tenerife, that was 1979.
Thanks to internet, cheap cell phones, cheap cameras, cheap TVs, anyone can afford one and report something in a matter of seconds, someone in Singapore received a news that an A320 safely ditched in Hudson River.

Well this is my rationalisation,
As economy progresses (costs of acquiring goods and services are getting lower), many previously poor family from poor background are getting wealthier. They now can afford what they previously can't, yet education do not progress or spread as fast as the economy growth. In addition, technology has enabled people to do anything, including stupid things like shown in classic cartoon shows. Perhaps we can enact some seemingly stupid rules to bring common sense to this newly rich people.

Evidence?
Cheapening general audience taste: cheap musics (synthesized voice instead of talent), cheap movies (horrors with too many effects), cheap TV shows (trashy reality shows, gossips), cheap magazines (celebrity issues gossips), seemingly dumbing down societies (asking non-expert celebrity opinion on issues).

Cheaper goods, lower quality goods are made available so that household with lower income can afford. They call this an improvement in "standards of living", since poor people can't afford magical vacuum cleaner in the past, they can only sweep the floor with broom and inhale all the dust. Now vacuum cleaners are affordable. For the "old rich", they saw this as a decreasing quality of life. Imagine with cars, what harm does uneducated drunkard, bad behaving, tough-life drivers can do with cars that they can afford.

According to this website

Your average salary in 1940s USA will be roughly USD 1,300 per year. Your minimum hourly pay was USD 0.43 per hour. With this salary you can buy 8 x 1.25oz Hershey bars, 5 cents each, and a bottle of soda for 3 cents.
In 1980s the minimum was at about USD 3.10 per hour, you can buy 10 x 1.45oz Hershey bars with 10 cents left for practically nothing, a 1 litre bottle of soda was USD 0.99 btw.

Is this a liberal exaggeration?

Take a look at what I experienced myself:
Airline tickets for a 864 km trip with a full-service airline cost me $450 back in 1994, that includes 37" legroom, inflight meal, and an inflight screen show, which isn't that good if you sit too far behind. I have to make a call to reserve a seat (premium rate), reconfirm the booking (another call), and then do a manual check-in.
Today, with the same airline it cost me $110, plus individual Audio Video on Demand (PTV), 32" legroom, selectable meals, practically free reservation and check-in services (if you made it with free internet connection), and free toiletries.

Things that I miss from the past include cartoon shows, Concorde flights, but mostly it is just my personal taste, which mostly are irrational. It seems that many "old rich" can't see the fact that they too are becoming dumbed down, a major political exploit.

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Off-Topic / 4th of July
« on: 04-07-2011, 05:07:18 »
235 years ago, 13 colonies declared their independence from the Britain empire.
Acknowledged by The Netherlands, Spain, and France. They become an independent nation.

Although it is still 3rd of July in Philadelphia, it is 4th here in Jakarta. The US embassy is preparing for a flag raising ceremony this morning.

This word is what we yelled to each other during our struggle for independence: "Freedom!" (Merdeka).

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Off-Topic / Economy: Portugal Bites the Dust
« on: 07-04-2011, 06:04:27 »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12993318

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He also reaffirmed his "confidence in Portugal's capacity to overcome the present difficulties, with the solidarity of its partners".

Yeah sure...

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But he added: "The real big loan over several years will require a medium-term plan and I don't think that can be agreed until the new government comes into place."

I really have to come to this conclusion: we should return to wisdom of hoarding wealth, but well, in a more subtle way, such as saving for your own pension funds.

You can no longer depend on your government managing the fund, while lamenting behind, for how incompetent, retarded, stupid, or whatever drawbacks they are suffering from. If you consume in excess, it is hurting you. It is never the big corporation's fault that you fell into consumerism temptation. Start saving for your own ass.

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Off-Topic / So I was in the middle of towering inferno...
« on: 28-02-2011, 14:02:49 »
Well, today our office building caught fire which spread smokes evenly throughout every floors. (Might be AC)

This is how the lobby looks like an hour later:



I took some pictures after evacuated from the building. Some assholes managed to jam the evacuation inside the emergency stairs, some even taking photos with their gadgets.



That same lobby, earlier.



Lesson: NEVER INHALE SMOKES FROM BUILDING FIRE!!!

I picked my nose and it was all black dust and tar-like, although I survived. Some unlucky chicks nearly collapsed at the entrance.

At least, use wet tissue, fabrics, towels, anything, just don't inhale them directly, if you have mask, that's your best friend.

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Off-Topic / Speed of Light in Time-Space Curvature
« on: 03-12-2010, 07:12:36 »
I've always wanted to ask this:

Is it true that if we exceed the speed of light, we immediately transported into the future (according to Einstein's relativity theory)?

They say, when near objects of huge mass, time slows down, and its gravity force would bend light trajectory.

So in relation with time and speed of light. A star, 1,000 of light years away that we see now on earth, might have died out just last year, but we will still see it up to 999 years to come, when our great-great descendants will see it go off in whatever kind of supernova. So literary, we are seeing the star's existing "past" (the light from the star that have traveled for 1,000 light years, currently reflected on our eyes).

Does this qualify as time travel by itself? I mean, for us being able to see the star which by now (unrelated to distance/space continuum) is already dead a year ago?

An article in Wikipedia claims like this without direct source:

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Light rays are the boundary between the future, the spacelike, and the past regions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens

Sunlight reaches earth's surface in 8 minutes 19 seconds, it means we are "in the past" by that much relative to the sun's space.

But then let's take out space out of our calculation, imagine you are circling the earth on lightspeed, will you be able to arrive in the future at your "before future state"?

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Singleplayer and Coop / Bot Navigation Tweaks
« on: 20-11-2010, 13:11:06 »
Bots are known to hesitate when crossing narrow streets or overgrowth or ditches.

I've done two simple things:

Changing values in ai.ai

aiPathfinding.setActiveMap Vehicle
aiPathfinding.map.maxSlope (28)
aiPathfinding.map.addVehicleForClusterCost Tank
aiPathfinding.map.addVehicleForClusterCost ArmedCar

Changing values in aipathfinding.ai

aiPathfinding.createMap Vehicle
aiPathfinding.map.maxSlope (20)
aiPathfinding.map.headClearance (3.5)
aiPathfinding.map.radius 2.5
aiPathfinding.map.allowedHeightDiff (5)

And at least, in my PC they successfully do this in Goodwood:



I dunno if this is the result i should have expected when increasing the encased () values.

The hanomag in first pic, finally crosses the underpass smoothly with little hesitation. The Goodwood Panther drive through the railway now, they don't reverse and forward too many times. Lastly, the Panzer 4 was shown to be able to cross the underpass too, not only the hanomag!

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Off-Topic / The Way We Fight Terrorism
« on: 14-11-2010, 05:11:22 »
Now "Defeatist" attitude begin to spark amongst ex-commanders.  ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11751888

Anyway,

Am I the only to think that terrorist should be fight by counter terrorist? I am pretty sure gamers and game developers have much more common sense than those elite politicians defining the so-called "war strategy".

You don't fight guerrillas, underground militants, and smart criminals (that is terrorist hiding amongst the public) with "le Grande Armee". It doesn't take Kutuzov to defeat them, even the Taliban and Al Qaeda or Sunni militants know. You are fighting against uniform-wearing soldier, which is kind of wearing a clear target designator amongst civilians. While the enemy is pretty stealth-ed amongst them. What the hell?

I'm pretty sure your troops there outnumbered the militants and terrorist by more than 10 fold. But we never really know about the position we gain or even the exact number of the bad-guys, why? Because the bad-guys know always know how many of you will be there, while you cannot really know their numbers.

My thoughts:


(even game developers imagined)
Let's boost CIA/FBI/NSA/MI6/etc funding instead of fancy military stuff. You don't kill a virus using 155 mm arty shells. You don't bring M1A2 Abrams MBT to gun down bank robbers. It is an overkill and deficit magnet.

To hell with weapon manufacturers and their fund-backed congress members. From now on, they got to manufacture fancy gadgets like those in James Bond's possession! No more tax spending for wasted bullets, missiles, rockets, and stuffs!

In Indonesia, Australia supported us with tons of intelligence service and funds. Moreover, we deploy this

instead of this

(on the photo: our airborne division, the orange berets)

The result: 5 of their bosses are captured or killed in 5 years. 1 of them is the Asia-Pacific cell leader, 1 of them is the "doctor" who supplied them with the know-how to make bombs. He and his student is killed in two separate raids.

As with many effective war tactics and strategies, this soon draw complaints from the opposing side, the terrorist sympathizers. That means, this is awesomely effective that make the bad-guys resort to whining.

Of course this is more of an domestic cleansing operation instead of world-wide pursuit. But as it goes, the west has history of successfully overthrowing dictators or democratically-elected leaders throughout the world. Stories like T.E. Lawrence can be repeated when we can patiently wait for the right time, Lawrence simply picked the right time to led the Arabs to rebel against the weakening Ottoman empire.

Do you guys have any other view or thoughts? 9 years have passed by since the war has begin. It has drawn huge amount of money, our civilization stop advancing here, we could have spent more on science and traveled to other planets or cure cancer or contain EBOLA or solve global warming, but this one simply never ends.

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Off-Topic / The 6th Mt. Merapi Eruption
« on: 30-10-2010, 07:10:09 »
Yesterday, Mt. Merapi erupted again, this time it is bigger.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11656700

Today in Jakarta, several hundred miles away, the weather is rather cloudy and the sky is grey-ish, but when my mom yelled that the dust "shines", we noticed that this is volcanic ash particles, not the common smog dust (which should have reduced in Saturday).

So here is some pictures:



The sky and the trees aren't as blue and green as usual.



The granite tiles looked clear, however when you brush your fingers, you'll see this fine particles stuck in your skin.

I involuntarily inhaled the fine particles in the air several times outdoor, now it is easier for me to breath deeply. It seems they clear out any clogs deep down there. But I heard the ashes could cause internal bleeding if inhaled too much. Need to find maskers now.

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Singleplayer and Coop / ESAI: FH2 Edition
« on: 26-10-2010, 19:10:38 »
Based on CF's post on other thread, i think this topic deserves its own thread.

The solution to the other major drama (stoopid CO) has already been pointed out. I haven't had time to try it yet, so I can't confirm it, but hopefully I'll have time this weekend. The solution? ESAI. Why? To quote it's creator:
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ESAI is Strategic AI code. It cannot alleviate the basic limitations of BF2 bots, some of which were enumerated by SP4Me. It works at the AI Commander level, controlling which Flags are attacked, when they are attacked, and with what level of resources.

The Vanilla BF2 Commander only has one basic strategy to work with 99% of the time - just a basic attack strategy. ESAI gives the AI commander more options. At the ESAI core there are sets of strategies for when a team is behind on flags, when the number of flags are even, and for when a team is ahead on flags.
- http://www.battlefieldsingleplayer.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15109&st=0

I just couldn't express my happiness. This modification on AI files really improve the bot behavior a lot!

Tried this on Alam Halfa, the map known to be boring for SP, until recently in 2.3, where the bot finally learned how to drive vehicles. But we all seem to experience the same thing: that the attacking German bots wouldn't likely went to the next flag or have their offensive stuck at the first flags. But this is not the case here, the Germans always at some point, managed to stop their bleed and continue to harass the 3rd line! So it was a spectacular achievement in such humanly designed map.

The bot actually defended its position, manned the MG and emplacement seriously, for the first time of FH2 SP history. You won't need special SP codes to make them stay, but this time, they lie there waiting to strike back the panzer waves (yeah, they come in waves indeed, that is quite fascinating as well).

This is my experience so far. In Ramelle, the German bots managed to grey out several flags after the Outskirts, quite an improvement from the previous one.

ESAI could potentially removes some of notorious commander order spam in some maps, but i haven't confirm this. At least in Alam Halfa, it is resolved.

Just follow the link and download Void's ESAI, follow his instruction, install specific strategies he provided in the pack into your specific FH2 map, and voila! So far only 4 major strategies provided and 5 combinations of them:

AA = Air Attack (still buggy)
FCA = focusedCounterAttack
PF = pushForward
PB = protectBase

I use FCAPFPB for Alam Halfa, in order for the German bots to PF, and Brits to PB (failed so far, since no command issued at the beginning, so it really depended on where the bots spawned), and the British to FCA when they are driven out. But these plays are mixed, depending on the situation. The German repeatedly camp their base on 1st line when being counter-attacked from the 2nd line, or vice versa.

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Ah my first free day with FH 2.3! Now I feel that I must pay some contribution by posting this.

Well, known crashes to me:

1. Lebisey crashed when map fully loaded (100% then CTD).
The map has no navmesh.
Fixed by Remick04 1st Fix
The map is now playable.


2. Operation Totalize-64 will eventually crash.
As long as the Canadians don't take the Windmill flag, all will be fine. But then, I play as Canadian and rushed all the way to the windmill (numerous times), and 3 times playing, all end up with this error message:


3. Operation Goodwood-64 displays dummy flags capture message.

4. Anctoville 1944-64 displays "ERROR when dealing with (certain object)"
The message will appear periodically, but doesn't affect anything to my observation. The game still plays well and the bots will do their job.


5. Port-en-Bessin MG34 gun position in a house adjacent to the Shipyard makes player stuck
I almost given up pressing 'e' key and chose suicide instead, until a clever British bot riflenaded me  :)


6. Ramelle-Neuville Parker's .30 cal confirmed may cause crash
I was playing as Germans, seeing the bots failed numerous times, i decided to rambo the church tower alone and do whatever i can to clear the path from defending Amis. I man the MG, snipe, and shoot many bots. But one bot with Bazooka slipped my MG sight, I yanked the MG to the right bottom corner trying to aim for him, but suddenly it CTDed without any error message (despite playing in windowed mode).

7. Operation Goodwood now crashes
I applied Remick's first SP patch and ESAI FH2 edition. As Germans, we hold LeMesnil Frementel and LePreiure for long, before it finally crashed. The British are bleeding, because both Cagny flags are in German's hand. Will find out the possible cause.

Bots that do not play properly:

1. Port-en-Bessin bots do not follow the flag cap order
Probably in the StrategicAreas.ai file, the bot British bot will go straight to the uncaptureable Port-en-Bessin from Outskirts. Must follow the push mode order.

Fixed by Remick's SP patch and Void's ESAI FH2 edition

2. Bots flying Hurricanes in Mt. Olympus easily crashed when turning hard
They fly much better in other maps, dunno why.

3. Villers-Bocage hedgerows makes bot stuck on them
The bot driving vehicles seemed not able to find better path to reach their fighting positions. Instead of real tank battle, i only see allied tanks getting into town and get pwn3d by infantries, while the mighty German tanks stuck in hedgerows.
Pictures Irrelevant
Bots will still struggle, but managed to get through all of the times, we can now see real tank fightings.


4. Bots in Ramelle-Neuville disregard towed 20 mm FLaK at all.
In small numbers, the Germans pwn3d the Amis by their superior equipment. When given more players, Americans can actually hold the Germans at the bay by using swarms of Zook rockets while the tank drivers are busy finding the right track. Also, the zook rockets seems to kill in pretty large radius too.

5. Bots driving vehicle in Operation Goodwood cannot cross railroad underpass and overpass.
The Germans are pretty much stuck in Goodwood, their counterattack only come with infantries and small armour units. Investigation leads me to their base: they forward and reverse the tanks and halftracks too much, afraid hitting the underpass wall. Probably their collision mesh avoidance played a part in this. Otherwise, we can "waypoint path" this underpasses and overpasses so bots can drive over them easily into the fight.

Fixed by Void's ESAI FH2 edition

6. Bots driving tanks in Anctoville-1944 cannot travel properly.
Bots in Anctoville, where streets and paths are narrow seems to be very clumsy when driving tanks. They just don't get to action too often. They forward and reverse too much, perhaps too afraid of scratching the fences, walls, and others.

Well that's all, will update as soon as I find other problems and its probable cause.

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Let's see the complaints.

http://www.bisnis.com/sektor-riil/perdagangan/1id209726.html

Google translated article here:

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Indonesian to English translation
RI paper products subject to additional import duty in the U.S.
Wednesday, 09/22/2010 20:44:03 AM
By: Rika Novayanti
JAKARTA: The United States imposed additional import duties to the Indonesian paper products amounted to 38% consisting of BMAD BMI 20.13% and 17.94% of the sale price.

September 21, 2010, the Ministry of Commerce has received a notification letter regarding the final decision of the Department of Commerce (DOC) United States (U.S.) relating to allegations of dumping and subsidies multiply my paper from Indonesia.

The decree governs the cost of anti-dumping (BMAD) and entry fees benefit (BMI). BMAD established under this decision is 20.13% of the sale price, while BMI was 17.94%.

BMI of 17.94% is greater than the BMI as issued in May 2010 amounted to 17.48%. BMI is a final total of some factors such as remuneration value of 9.38% and 5.77% export subsidy bands. Also related to IBRA was 0.4%, while the depth restructuring, associated with sales to Orleans was 2.39%, bringing the total 2.79%.

Meanwhile, the BMAD increased by 9.51% from May 2010 BMADS by 10.62% to 20.13%.

Trade Security Director of the Department of Commerce, Ernawati, explained the tariff is a final decision that has been through the process of investigation and verification. (MSB)

In short, the US accused us in dumping paper price.

To be honest, besides environmental reason, this is utterly stupid. There are only 3 paper mills in this country that directly used forestry log for making paper. The rest just can't afford them, because those 3 belong to damn rich conglomerate companies. We mainly use recycled paper to keep cost low, while adjusting our awesome Valmet (Finnish made, probably the best paper machine in the world) or Foyd (German made, the "Rolls Royce" of paper machine due to its price and quality) paper machines to produce the highest quality as possible. To keep start-up cost low, we also combine parts & modifications from Japan, Italy (cheap German knock-off machineries), and Taiwan.

Paper industries in this country has been like the crown jewel of the country, been fully self-sustaining back in 1980s and survived the financial crisis in 1998. It ain't no typical sweatshops, the factories has world-class facilities, worker salaries that is far higher than national average, and even marveled Australian and New Zealand observers. When i went to Australia last year, their market was clearly dominated by ours, despite them industries being helped a lot by the government.

Our market policy itself was pretty laxed. We fought for efficiency all the way back from early 1970s (when import duties are as high as 55%), and finally achieve it on mid 1980s (when it was like 15%). Although there are still small 5% import duty for paper products, it was there just to defer suspicion of dumping from the western country (it costs more to go to international trade litigation than showing our commitment to bullshit & biased free market). We are actually ready to fight for 100% free market, but not with China and its huge economies of scale.

Judging from the US's position, its economical policies are heavily influenced by politics. They are just there to win votes from the majority of the voters. What is damaging from this situation is that they never got to the real problem itself, instead they start blaming outside forces.

What they really need to do, is to realize themselves that they just can't be best in everything. They have one of the largest industrial forestry in New York state, complete with bulky factory building, spacious open yard (which is ineffectively utilized), and American own-made paper machine (which is somewhat inferior to the European and Japanese one, but on par with the Taiwanese). Despite this seemingly superior asset, they would never reach the efficiency and productivity that the small country like Finland do, never mind us, or even China.

I could even tell you stories when we analyzed machines built by US. Well, not to mention the arrogance and the hefty price tag they asked (like asking a Rolls Royce price for a mere Chevy sedan). We were not jungle people for sure, we flew with US-made jets to their corporate HQ, their attitude to their buyer doesn't even reflect the best practice being preached in their top ranked business schools all over the states. This simply base our stupid decision to buy ridiculously expensive German Foyd machine (where we could have bought more Finns or Japs' stuff).

Surely this import duty enacted by the US won't affect our markets badly, but it proofed our suspicion. The only area the US could excel in is defense/aerospace, IT, and sophisticated financial industry, clearly paper industry is not for them.

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Off-Topic / Perspectives of WW2
« on: 12-06-2010, 19:06:34 »
There are so many different views regarding WW2. But here is what happened generally in my society, especially regarding nitpicky details of WW2:

1. The Roman salute
From the FH community and many other WW2 themed mods, i recognize that everybody mostly yelled "Sieg Heil!" when doing that gesture. Some of them do yell "Heil Hitler!" in front of his picture of him personally. But most of the people here don't know that, and always connecting that notorious Roman salute with "Heil Hitler!" Nobody seems to aware that "Sieg Heil!" is more common.

2. The success of Blitzkrieg
This was the most hilarious part of our education system's mistake. In explaining this chapter, they show FJ units paradropping in French, surprise attacks by high speed planes, and tanks rolling into villages. This creates wrong understanding amongst the society that Blitzkrieg was really a lightning war, that were executed harmoniously between infantry and the mechanics.
What i've learned from the l33ts at FH, is that Blitzkrieg is of course, a quick drive into the enemy territory, blowing from its weakest point, spearheaded by mechanized division (Panzer/tanks) for its awesomeness in speed and firepower, intended to incite larger collapse in enemy's front or full encirclement of the enemy. Our understanding suggest that it was entirely different thing, that it makes the formidable French forces at that time, looked far more stupid than it was. The history teacher couldn't even answer the student's question like this: "Why the French forces with their superior numbers were defeated? Why wouldn't counter attack?" the answer is pretty easy for the brats: "Because they were surprised, they have no time to react, and it was all too late." Simply downplaying the failed De Gaulle's counter attack.
We were told that the German simply win, the Britain was surprised, knocked out, and suddenly were on their ass in Dunkirk, while the French was like slowly stripped by the Blitzkrieg.

3. North African Battles
Our textbooks suddenly jumps into the defeat of Commonwealth & British forces, forgetting all the earlier brilliant victories against the Italians. It makes Wavell and Auchinleck looks worse. Some of the textbooks have fatal errors, such as wrongly referencing Rommel's nickname (he was called Dessert Lion). And not to forget that the textbook seems to overly glorify the El Alamein and Montgomery.

4. Overly signifying the "turning point"
As we know it, the text books brazenly dared to jump into blatant conclusion about this. It mentioned "El Alamein", "Midway", and "Stalingrad". So, a lot of people here thinks that "those were the first time the axis felt defeat." as in the turning point of some plot in some novel story. Nobody knows that the Germans were set back during their 1941 winter offensive to take Moscow and how close they were. Nobody knows that the Germans were still able to fight before Kursk, or how the allied were stuck in Gustav Line for a long period of time.

5. The fighting machines
O perspectives! I just can't be more tired when hearing my friend suggesting that the US/British equipment were superior, the German are second, the Soviets are the worst. A very convenient plot device by the education system to explain into us another reason why the German lost.

6. Bombing of Reich
Simply not mentioned in the book. Many people here don't know this. Even some brighter ones don't even realize that it began earlier than 1944.

7. U-boot terror and how the allied win the battle
Grossly downplayed. All of us here simply regarded the British navy is the strongest in the world, thus they won (even some still believe that it is, today). Misinformation at its best.

8. The Finns
Not mentioned!!! Never know why.

9. Western front = Eastern front
At least many people do get this perception, the battle is equally big, while in reality it is mind-blowingly out of proportion. During the cold war, we were simply told that the USSR equipment are inferior, and their strategy are very gross, involving waves of foot soldiers trying to overwhelm the defenders in number. US and USSR are equal in strength. However, we did feel that NATO seems to fear the USSR more than just because all of these BS.

10. Holocaust
We were told that it really happened, including the picture of Auschwitz's gate. All accompanied with only one explanation: "because Hitler hate Jews."
Obnoxiously.

11. Japanese stance
Our own history told us that 350 years under Dutch occupation is better than just 3.5 years under the Japanese. Because Romusha (forced labour by Imperial Japanese) is many times more sadistic than "kerja rodi" (Dutch forced labour). Yet it forget to mention how we have a lot of collaborators, because the Japs persuade many of the local political leaders a lot. The collaborators themselves were all tricked and later become fierce opponent of the occupation.

12. Chinese war
Despite absorbing much of Imperial Japan Army's resource, this portion of the war has never been adequately portrayed, including in our version (which most of it were sourced from US version). Some books don't mention it at all, some only mentioned that the Japanese took advantage of the ongoing civil war.

13. The destruction of German fighting force in Normandy
Most of the people here learned that the German force were completely overwhelmed by the allied superiority in numbers of both men and equipment. But what they don't know, is that the allied forces' advance were quite halted during several first weeks of the campaign (as compared to Soviet's advance in Eastern front). But as we skip the details, all we know is that von Kluge's army were trapped in Falaise and nearly encircled.
So this has created some really wrong perception about how the war goes in my society. Blame it on the history classes. Many of my friends think that the Americans and the British were just clearing villages out of German garrison, rallying them into big battles while having the German army slaughtered, and regrouping the French resistance during the Normandy campaign. Too easy huh?

14. Market Garden
Somehow this is very significant.
The plan is ambitious and bold, i agree. Its failure show how well is German fighting forces despite suffering numerous losses during the earlier campaigns. But why do we have to study this chapter in more detail? This has created a perception in many people that "even the victory in western front doesn't always went smoothly." Battle of the Bulge is also overly portrayed here as well. Giving the impression that the Germans give the allied forces more priority compared to the Soviets

15. Bloody American losses in Pacific
Many were surprised when i told that the Americans suffered more casualties in the Pacific than in the Europe. Thanks to SPR movie, since they showed brutality at Omaha, and weak education regarding history. It makes a lot of people concluded that the US decided to bomb Japan with nukes because they already have it. The Germans were too late for that. Nobody really knows how bloody it was to take Iwo Jima, Saipan, and Okinawa.



A little note: we study WW2 history subject in year 14 and year 16 based on 1999 renewed standard curriculum.

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