French Hope

[hankypanky]

Hmm a white flag factory? How effective are white flags against German tanks?

They worked fine when we Brits used them at Dunkirk, but when the French used them it was cheese-eating surrender, apparently.

XD
how does cheese-eating surrender work XD

[sn00x]

what this have to do with french-hope mapping/mod/whatever.. thats the question..

[Arc9]

*looking at the first page*
Well, well! looks like paasky finally found a use for that old relic!

[Jimi Hendrix]

 I have 2 relevant questions.

 Does French Hope have a nice static of Maginot Line?
 If so, will French Hope have a map with a functional Maginot Line that we can fight inside?



JH

[CptdeS35]

well they may looking for historical accurency...so =>no fight with maginot line...at least, a map with germans encircling french at maginot line. It's hard to deal with..

[sn00x]

we have currently no custom statics, as far i know.. though my map wont contain any, there might be on other maps.

[Jimi Hendrix]

we have currently no custom statics, as far i know.. though my map wont contain any, there might be on other maps.

"So you're saying there's a chance"

[sn00x]

no chance for maginot-line map

[hankypanky]

It couldn't work, or it would be pretty difficult! The Maginot Line isn't only a bunch of bunkers. It's an huge fortification system with tunnels, factories (for fresh air, food, ammunitions and water), different level of "fighting bunkers" (mortars, turrets, 75mm, MG, etc), with railways to bring soldiers and ammunitions in and out, with elevators to go to the fighting bunkers, etc. Think of it as an huge cruiser buried in the ground.
And even if we could do that, which kind of map could we make? The Italian tried to attack the Alps Maginot Line, and failed: they were repulsed kilometers away before even reaching the first bunker! Same with the German: the could only attack the main entrance of the tunnels and some bunkers. And they attacked them with Stuka (failed) and with 88mm (successful) but couldn't get any further because of the internal defences.

Not all Maginot Line bunkers look like that. Those are the best ones:

Wow the French wasted a lot of money on that damn line :/
WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY ITALIANS? PLZ DO ADD :0

[CptdeS35]

Yeah italians tried to invade France through the Alps in the middle of may 1940.

EPIC FAIL.

[Jimi Hendrix]

 I seriously doubt it would be necessary to develop an exact replica of the Maginot Line.



 

[CptdeS35]

no it isn't they are more important battles before that one !

[Strat_84]

Wow the French wasted a lot of money on that damn line :/

You know, with our knowledge of history it may seem a waste, but this line actually did its job: preventing any surprise attack like in 1870 and 1914, so that the French army had enough time to mobilize.  

Things didn't happen as expected but at least, we weren't caught with pants completely off.  

[Paasky]

Exactly, the Maginot Line worked perfectly at not letting the enemy through. Too bad the sneaky Germans knew how to drive through an impenetrable forest though...

Had the French continued the Maginot Line to the coast WWII would've looked like WWI, just with less dashing aeroplanes. But for some reason the Belgians and Dutch didn't like the idea of their lands being left behind. Nor did they allow building the line through their lands, so not to provoke the Germans.

[Meadow]

I've read that the Maginot Line is thoroughly misunderstood - its purpose was in fact to FORCE the Germans to go round it. The French knew they'd come through Belgium (hint: they did it in 1914) and so decided to force them to do it again and face them there, taking advantage (as they thought) of the inability of armour to move through the Ardennes, nullifying Hitler's vaunted Blitzkrieg.

Of course, this didn't work out because
a) you can drive tanks through forests
b) the French government and society as a whole had been so anti-war in the 1930s that the army was in no fit state to launch a decisive confrontation on the emerging German Army in Belgium or Northern France

So it's key to remember that the only French 'mistake' was the one about Blitzkrieg not working through the Ardennes. They never expected a suicidal charge against their Maginot flank - it was a massive deterrent to funnel the Germans into what the French thought was a battle they could win.