French Hope

[CptdeS35]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.

And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.

[:| Hi]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.

And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.

But keep in mind that all the bunkers supported each other, and that almost all bunkers were impossible to blow up with the german artillery of the time

[Gl@mRock]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.

And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.

I don't see any problems there, we do that all the time in FH2.

[hankypanky]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.

And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.

I don't see any problems there, we do that all the time in FH2.

What you don't see in FH2 are all the little beavers doing that for you

[elander]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.

And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.

I don't see any problems there, we do that all the time in FH2.

What you don't see in FH2 are all the little angry beavers doing that for you

fixed that one for yah

[Strat_84]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

Not exactly. Our AA was good but not in large numbers and all the 75mm + AA guns were concentrated in towns to protect from bombing (ie were they were never used). People were remembering Zeppelin bombings of WWI.
The other problem is also that the country (and especially the industry) wasn't really prepared for a massive production of military stuff and when it started to be the case ... everything was over.

[THeTA0123]

frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)

Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line

Not exactly. Our AA was good but not in large numbers and all the 75mm + AA guns were concentrated in towns to protect from bombing (ie were they were never used). People were remembering Zeppelin bombings of WWI.
The other problem is also that the country (and especially the industry) wasn't really prepared for a massive production of military stuff and when it started to be the case ... everything was over.

The money spended on the maginot line, would have resulted in double the amount of french tanks, planes, artillery and the development of modern Light, medium and heavy Anti-aircraft guns  (the 13.2MM and 25MM hotchkiss guns where Very effective, but not many where built)

Many many plans and projects where ready. But all the funding for them was transfered to the maginot line.

The only reason why germany won the battle of france, was because of air superiority. German tanks where massacard. Even their medium tanks couldnt win versus a simple light tank like a FCM 36.

[Strat_84]

Theta, the problem wasn't really money but production itself.

You have to understand that truely military plants were few and couldn't sustain a very high rate of production. Beside these there were many little plants, each one making a part of the final product. And there were many new processes to implement because most of those factories were initially civil plants (for exemple making cars, bicycles or cans) that were converted for military production. This is not something you do in a few weeks, sometimes production was screwed for many months before there were actually results, slow results.
That's how happened weird situations such as shortages of guns, tanks without turrets or (the worst of all) thousands of brand new aircrafts stuck on the ground because they lacked radios or weren't certified for flight.

BTW, you know, the FCM36 was really modern for its time but its fighting efficiency wasn't much higher than a R35. It was still a light tank with a short barrel 37mm gun. 

edit: forgot a letter, STUCK not suck.

[siben]

Also, weren't the tactics of the French to use the tanks to support infantry? and where therefore scattered around the battlefield while the Germans put al there tanks together in groups? The result was that the French tank was always terribly outnumbered and did not really have much of a chance of winning the fight? If the French would have grouped there tanks they would have had a much better  chance of beating the German tank groups thus winning more battles thus maybe stopping the Germans in there tracks.

[THeTA0123]

Theta, the problem wasn't really money but production itself.

You have to understand that truely military plants were few and couldn't sustain a very high rate of production. Beside these there were many little plants, each one making a part of the final product. And there were many new processes to implement because most of those factories were initially civil plants (for exemple making cars, bicycles or cans) that were converted for military production. This is not something you do in a few weeks, sometimes production was screwed for many months before there were actually results, slow results.
That's how happened weird situations such as shortages of guns, tanks without turrets or (the worst of all) thousands of brand new aircrafts suck on the ground because they lacked radios or weren't certified for flight.

BTW, you know, the FCM36 was really modern for its time but its fighting efficiency wasn't much higher than a R35. It was still a light tank with a short barrel 37mm gun. 

Still. The avaiable funding could have helped that.

[MaJ.P.Bouras]

The whole war resources went to the White flag factory that was burned to the ground and rendered the French military machine useless 

Bad tactics and stuck minds . That's what lead to defeat.

[THeTA0123]

The whole war resources went to the White flag factory that was burned to the ground and rendered the French military machine useless 

Bad tactics and stuck minds . That's what lead to defeat.

Yep. They led to the maginot line 

[CptdeS35]

WWI tactics in WWII process. Bad.

[hankypanky]

Hmm a white flag factory? How effective are white flags against German tanks?

[Meadow]

Hmm a white flag factory? How effective are white flags against German tanks?

They worked fine when we Brits used them at Dunkirk, but when the French used them it was cheese-eating surrender, apparently.