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Off-Topic => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Lupin on 30-04-2009, 07:04:00

Title: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Lupin on 30-04-2009, 07:04:00
Part 1:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a7d_1240819390

Part 2:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=655_1240833450

This video would be great as a training video for the upcoming Normandy patch. ;)

On a side note I really like that AP garand ammo. It would be neat if certain special (aka not common) infantry classes got 1 clip of AP ammo. This could be easily done by adding "two" garands to the special kit, one with normal ammo and one with a very limited amount of AP ammo.

It would be pretty useful for taking out rampaging kubels and such but obviously not tanks.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 30-04-2009, 09:04:42
If only we could do half those things. I thought this video would be pretty lousy, but it's actually quite scary in a way. Even the Carbine is vicious.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Lupin on 30-04-2009, 09:04:16
If only we could do half those things. I thought this video would be pretty lousy, but it's actually quite scary in a way. Even the Carbine is vicious.

Yeah. I was really surprised when the garand dented the armor near the vision slit of that IV F1.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 30-04-2009, 10:04:01
Taking out that 75mm was the best bit.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Biiviz on 30-04-2009, 10:04:12
Perhaps we'll get to see some incendiary grenades in FH2 as well.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: K.Cower on 30-04-2009, 11:04:31
Scary movie, especially when garand penetrates german helmet.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: VonMudra on 30-04-2009, 11:04:34
How's that scary.  Helmets weren't made to stop bullets.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: K.Cower on 30-04-2009, 11:04:26
How's that scary.  Helmets weren't made to stop bullets.
You don't understand this until you wear a helmet.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: DLFReporter on 30-04-2009, 11:04:51
Helmets are supposed to deflect a shot and shrapnel that would take your scalp off if it would hit you high enough.
No Helmet survives a direct hit. :)
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: VonMudra on 30-04-2009, 12:04:09
How's that scary.  Helmets weren't made to stop bullets.
You don't understand this until you wear a helmet.

Considering I have, I still don't see it.  Helmets do not stop bullets, even modern day kevlar, you'll be very lucky to stop anything more then a glancing round.  No one put on a helmet in WW2 thinking that would save their life from a bullet.  Its meant to stop artillery shrapnel, flying debris from exploding shells, etc...
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: K.Cower on 30-04-2009, 12:04:58
I know it all guys, I wasn't born yesterday. I mean, scary - what happens to human head after direct hit of rifle.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 30-04-2009, 12:04:29
Part 1:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a7d_1240819390

Part 2:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=655_1240833450

This video would be great as a training video for the upcoming Normandy patch. ;)

On a side note I really like that AP garand ammo. It would be neat if certain special (aka not common) infantry classes got 1 clip of AP ammo. This could be easily done by adding "two" garands to the special kit, one with normal ammo and one with a very limited amount of AP ammo.

It would be pretty useful for taking out rampaging kubels and such but obviously not tanks.
Nice video, the AP ammo footage for the garand is quite awesome. ;)
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 30-04-2009, 20:04:29
I've seen these videos before! They're awesome!

I love the narrator, especially when he names off all the caliber shells. FIFTY CALIBER ARMOR PIERCING!!!
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Lupin on 30-04-2009, 21:04:53
I always get a kick when the crews yell "CEASE FIIIIRE". They just sound so plaintive and angry at the same time.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Eat Uranium on 30-04-2009, 21:04:17
Despite the bits where they're shooting tanks (apart from the 105 HEAT) which don't look very convincing, I think these are awesome.  The narrator reminds me of thunderbirds (Scot Tracy I think).
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Ionizer on 30-04-2009, 22:04:28
That was cool.  I'm sure some of the stuff is a little exaggerated (Rifle grenade taking out tank, etc).  I hope the things that are accurate will be depicted in Normandy.

Is the American .30 Cal rifle cartridge more powerful than the British .303 and the German 7.92?  Or I guess they said they were using special AP ammo, right?  Will get some of that in-game?  Maybe in special pickup kits?

Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 30-04-2009, 23:04:04
That was cool.  I'm sure some of the stuff is a little exaggerated (Rifle grenade taking out tank, etc).  I hope the things that are accurate will be depicted in Normandy.

Is the American .30 Cal rifle cartridge more powerful than the British .303 and the German 7.92?  Or I guess they said they were using special AP ammo, right?  Will get some of that in-game?  Maybe in special pickup kits?


Yea lol if you pay attention the hole supposedly made by the rifle AT grenade is the same size as the 37mm cannon, which is also the same as the hole made by the 57mm cannon!
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: VonMudra on 01-05-2009, 03:05:28
That was cool.  I'm sure some of the stuff is a little exaggerated (Rifle grenade taking out tank, etc).  I hope the things that are accurate will be depicted in Normandy.

Is the American .30 Cal rifle cartridge more powerful than the British .303 and the German 7.92?  Or I guess they said they were using special AP ammo, right?  Will get some of that in-game?  Maybe in special pickup kits?




I've never heard of us actually bothering to issue the AP rounds for the garend.  The BAR DID get them, but in the pacific.  Also, its no more powerful then any of those rounds, but technically, the german is the largest.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: The Crimson Major on 01-05-2009, 06:05:01
Cool video, Part 1 seemed very accurate, part 2 a little exaggerated.  great find!
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: silian on 01-05-2009, 11:05:43
Despite the bits where they're shooting tanks (apart from the 105 HEAT) which don't look very convincing,

TBH considering the 105mm HEAT round was fired at a prototype M18 Hellcat, a vehicle not renowned for its armour protection, its performance is not very convincing either.
Title: Re: Infantry weapons and their effect. A reel from WWII.
Post by: Lupin on 01-05-2009, 12:05:49
Despite the bits where they're shooting tanks (apart from the 105 HEAT) which don't look very convincing,

TBH considering the 105mm HEAT round was fired at a prototype M18 Hellcat, a vehicle not renowned for its armour protection, its performance is not very convincing either.

Yeah, and if you look carefully in the later bits of the second video you can see them taking out grants and similar allied tanks. ;D