so if a bazooka or PIAT shot hits the sides, it will do no damage or do a little damage?
The Panzer IV looks pretty too, but I guess code limitations are the reason why the schurzen will be immune to our PIAT and Bazooka fire, as IRL once the protective skirt is compromised, it has lost all protective qualities.
Hi, guys. Do you find the most inportant news?
"That's all for now, but be sure to come back next week for another update. "
not "next time" as usual. ;D
sheikyerbouti, only immune in the skirts area, check the render and you can see not covered parts even in the sides. Yes, sandbags work simmilar, perhaps double spaced armour too?, russian tankers placed bed frames, etc
Everything is looking up, and i can't wait for release in 2010 ;D
From what I understand the Dev team has been testing Normandy for so long that they have gotten bored with it and will be releasing their unwanted child to the public very soon. (before the tired suggestion of June 6 I would hope)
I have a question :
Did the Zimmerit on the Panzer IV Ausf H will be usefull for something ? Maybe stickybomb won't stick by example ? Or it's just a graphic element without any effect on gameplay ?
GJ Devs just keep going to make us dream !!!
He said "Zimmerit" not "Schürzen". ;) The zimmerit is the pattern on the main hull, which was meant to stop magnetic objects (explovives) from being stuck to the hull.I have a question :
Did the Zimmerit on the Panzer IV Ausf H will be usefull for something ? Maybe stickybomb won't stick by example ? Or it's just a graphic element without any effect on gameplay ?
GJ Devs just keep going to make us dream !!!
did u read the previous posts???? any damage that is inflicted on the side guards (e.g. bazooka hits the side guard) will not count......so it inflicts no damage therefore loses no health therefore you have to hit its hull Armour (or the main body of the tank)
i love the .30cal nice to see it has a new skin from the one currently ingame.
Does anybody know about you, what is to be seen in the third ingame-screenshot thus in the foreground?It's a static, which is quite easy to tell from the way it looks (it looks more bright and polished/smooth then the ground). I
A static object or just heightmap (to the hill pulled up)?
No damage if it hits the skirt.
oh ok.....................well i have learned something new today so thats good well i never new about the whole camo pattern to stop magnetic charges thing thx for the correction :)He said "Zimmerit" not "Schürzen". ;) The zimmerit is the pattern on the main hull, which was meant to stop magnetic objects (explovives) from being stuck to the hull.I have a question :
Did the Zimmerit on the Panzer IV Ausf H will be usefull for something ? Maybe stickybomb won't stick by example ? Or it's just a graphic element without any effect on gameplay ?
GJ Devs just keep going to make us dream !!!
did u read the previous posts???? any damage that is inflicted on the side guards (e.g. bazooka hits the side guard) will not count......so it inflicts no damage therefore loses no health therefore you have to hit its hull Armour (or the main body of the tank)
i love the .30cal nice to see it has a new skin from the one currently ingame.
I´d say it should be worse because the Shermans cannon only had a lenght of 37.5 calibre lenght, while the Panzer4H had a lenght of 48 calibre-lenght. That means that because of the longer barrel the Panzer4Hs muzzle velocity and thus the power to penetrate armour is higher.
btw how's the Sherman's(75mm) performance head-on with a IVH in FH2? in FH1 it's terrible.
oh ok.....................well i have learned something new today so thats good well i never new about the whole camo pattern to stop magnetic charges thing thx for the correction :)Zimmerit is not a camo pattern, it is an additional layer of a antimagnetic paste (a bit like cement), that is applied to the hull. Magnetic anti tank mines used by the infantry won't hold on that surface because of the non magnetic characteristics.
:o Wooooooooooooooooow Panzer4H and Lebisey as my birthday present!!!
Thank you Lightning, thank you Toddel, thank you Mr.Cheese! :) :D ;D
Does anybody know about you, what is to be seen in the third ingame-screenshot thus in the foreground?
A static object or just heightmap (to the hill pulled up)?
If that prone guy is using a Thompson though, might I ask why? The one error FH1 consistently made was to give British soldiers on the late Western Front Thompsons - I hope this is not repeated, as we've already seen an excellent Sten model!I thought we continued to use a few thompsons into Normandy. Maybe they will be for officers, with assault and pickups getting the sten.
Nice update.(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/PzKpfw%20V%20Panther%20Ausf.%20A/big.jpg)No damage if it hits the skirt.
Does this mean it will be easier to knock-out a Panther with a bazooka/Piat from the side then a P4H?
Lobo, you didn't quite answer my question about the skirts properly. Completly disregarding HEAT warheads, I was wondering about solid AP shot. Using my pic, the light red is the shot. It hits the skirt at an angle that means that it would go through and miss the chassis. Does it:
a) Co on through and strike the ground, doing no damage to the tank; or
b) Cause damage to the tank as if it had struck the same place at 90 degrees and gone through to stike the hull?
b.Hmm... "weren't" in game huh? Does that mean they're in game now?
And the British Shermans weren't in game yet when these screenshots were taken.
I have a question :
Did the Zimmerit on the Panzer IV Ausf H will be usefull for something ? Maybe stickybomb won't stick by example ? Or it's just a graphic element without any effect on gameplay ?
GJ Devs just keep going to make us dream !!!
The british assault class has stens for sure, about NCO's maybe they are using thompsons, now I don't remember
The tiger looks all in proportion to me. I don't know what lobo was on about with the perspective, but I looked at it backwards through my wide angle lens and it only made it too small to see (and upside down).
Lobo, you didn't quite answer my question about the skirts properly. Completly disregarding HEAT warheads, I was wondering about solid AP shot. Using my pic, the light red is the shot. It hits the skirt at an angle that means that it would go through and miss the chassis. Does it:
a) Co on through and strike the ground, doing no damage to the tank; or
b) Cause damage to the tank as if it had struck the same place at 90 degrees and gone through to stike the hull?
And finally, why are the shermans in american colours?
Tiny - I think the ongoing discussion is more about how exactly it'll work in-game.
I just can't wait to put heavy resistance with my squad in that house or make an ambush or assult it for that matter.
I just can't wait to put heavy resistance with my squad in that house or make an ambush or assult it for that matter.
can't wait to put HE shells inside :D
screw mines, we have zooks and fausts now ;D
you know
normandy has things called trees and grass and all other sorts of vegitation
it is not easy to find a well camouflaged tank in this environment from up there
now imagine how hard it is to find a single infantry man ;)
I want another update, can we have one?? :-[ :'(
you knowI foresee a drastic reduction in aerial strafing effectiveness with the next update because of this. The whole pace and method of combat is going to be completely revised with Normandy.
normandy has things called trees and grass and all other sorts of vegitation
it is not easy to find a well camouflaged tank in this environment from up there
now imagine how hard it is to find a single infantry man ;)
you knowI foresee a drastic reduction in aerial strafing effectiveness with the next update because of this. The whole pace and method of combat is going to be completely revised with Normandy.
normandy has things called trees and grass and all other sorts of vegitation
it is not easy to find a well camouflaged tank in this environment from up there
now imagine how hard it is to find a single infantry man ;)
I think I'll like the inevitably slower pace. With the desert, it's just cruising across vast, featureless spaces until you see the silhouette of a vehicle on the horizon and close in. Oh, and praying the enemy Stuka/Beaufighter doesn't spot you in the process. With Normandy, everyone will have to take their time scanning the environment, and planes won't spot you a mile away.you knowI foresee a drastic reduction in aerial strafing effectiveness with the next update because of this. The whole pace and method of combat is going to be completely revised with Normandy.
normandy has things called trees and grass and all other sorts of vegitation
it is not easy to find a well camouflaged tank in this environment from up there
now imagine how hard it is to find a single infantry man ;)
Indeed. Tanks and infantry will be able to hide alot better from prowling rocket 'phoons.
Iff that whas an answer to me(not sure) then im awere off this and stated that aswell;-)
But i geuss its a big secret still or somthing like that about what i asked.
ohh well i whas just wondering about theese things and because iff your on the curent laffaette(spelling proberly) it dosent realy matter if you going up or down with it your toon is the same hight so you can still get sniped out off it even iff you think you under cover because you moved it down behind the wall off a window or brickwall or so.
I want another update, can we have one?? :-[ :'(
See? This is what happens when you don't eat your update properly. You have to devour it slowly in wait for the next portion. Otherwise you become update thirsty junkie.
Yes, nice update. But are you sure the Schuerzen were THAT effective? Why develop reactive armor, when you can stop HEAT shells with 5mm worth of steel sheets?Not even reactive armour makes you any safer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJhqQquIL_U
Great update, as always. The quality of the models is really amazing...I'd say so, atleast it still runs fine for me on all high settings. I can't speak for everybody ofcourse but there shouldn't be (m)any performance problems. The maps and statics are designed so they should run normally on most computers that cun run BF2/FH2 (well almost then, as FH2 is a bit more detailed, like FH1 to BF1942 it generally demands a little more but again if you should expect the same general performance as on the last theatre).
But when I see these screenshots with lots of grass, houses, trees, hedgerows, etc...I wonder how all these things will be hardware friendly, compared to North Africa. Can we still expect to run everything on high settings in Normandy as we did in NA ?
Great update, as always. The quality of the models is really amazing...
But when I see these screenshots with lots of grass, houses, trees, hedgerows, etc...I wonder how all these things will be hardware friendly, compared to North Africa. Can we still expect to run everything on high settings in Normandy as we did in NA ?
hay all, will there be different skins for the troops on both sides?What doy ou expect, for both sides to look the same? That would be unrealistic and über choatic, cna you imagne the team killing? =p
I think he means several different skins for every team, e.g. Wehrmacht, Fallschirmjäger, etc.
So, it just occured to me to ask: are you planning to replace the FH1 vintage pintle mounted M1919 on the Stuart with this new one?
Just for those who can't seem to understand why skirts are so effective when dealing with HEAT.
A HEAT shell uses a jet of molten metal to make its way through the armor.
When this jet hits a skirt, it's greatly disrupted, and therefore has little to no chance to penetrate the remaining armor. Hence why some tanks have spaced armor.
Don't know if you already knew this, but just in case.
Just for those who can't seem to understand why skirts are so effective when dealing with HEAT.
A HEAT shell uses a jet of molten metal to make its way through the armor.
When this jet hits a skirt, it's greatly disrupted, and therefore has little to no chance to penetrate the remaining armor. Hence why some tanks have spaced armor.
Don't know if you already knew this, but just in case.
Thank you. I didn't know that, as a matter of fact, I don't know much about WW2, just the basics.
So any infos is always welcome. :)
So, it just occured to me to ask: are you planning to replace the FH1 vintage pintle mounted M1919 on the Stuart with this new one?isnt the top MG on the stuart the vanilla cal .50
I think he means several different skins for every team, e.g. Wehrmacht, Fallschirmjäger, etc.
yes that is what i meant ;) It would be a dream to see Paratroopers on both sides too.
Edit.. could we see some pic of the troops in next week news update please.
I think he means several different skins for every team, e.g. Wehrmacht, Fallschirmjäger, etc.
yes that is what i meant ;) It would be a dream to see Paratroopers on both sides too.
Edit.. could we see some pic of the troops in next week news update please.
how bout the battle for carentan? E/506 of the 101st vs. 6th Fallschirmjäger Division
how bout the battle for carentan? E/506 of the 101st vs. 6th Fallschirmjäger Division
Does anybody know if WW2 shaped charges where even fitted with metal linings inside the blast cone? Or was it just on pure blast effect alone?
how bout the battle for carentan? E/506 of the 101st vs. 6th Fallschirmjäger Division
Historically the defenders of Carentan comprised mainly Fallschirmjager-Regiment 6 (part of 2. Fallschirmjager-Division) and elements of the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division 'Gotz von Berlichingen'. IMO any Carentan map should reflect this.
That's all for now, but be sure to come back next week for another update.
or the most likely option - a no update dreamcrush.Dreamcrush WOW!!! these guys really love this mod.. and I am starting to as well. anyway just my thoughts.
QuoteThat's all for now, but be sure to come back next week for another update.
Maybe because of this?
cos when I see people saying....I take it you've never heard of the terrible dreamcrusher. Run while you still can!or the most likely option - a no update dreamcrush.Dreamcrush WOW!!! these guys really love this mod.. and I am starting to as well. anyway just my thoughts.
I mod for another game.. and the mod is as popular as this would be.. this could even have some more fans. but we would never slip on our word to the people that support us,or forget, but sadly this team has on more than one occasion.
that's why we are the best, we crush your dreams with our snake cowboy boots and then laugh maniacally with the sight of your tears, and then we go to eat the spaghetties of La Mamma
The only update I want is a release. You guys have been testing for like 6 months now, so instead of more screenshots, just give us the real product.Damned I hate this type of reply...
What kind of Spaniard goes home to eat spaghetti?
Wow you've got quite an identity crisis going on...What kind of Spaniard goes home to eat spaghetti?
The kind of spaniard you don't want to mess around with him unless you like bloody horse heads in your bed, capisce?
Ok, you eat horses now too? :P (I know where to get animal heads in Vancouver but a horse head would be real tough to find)I say what I say.
That's it, this week's update must be that Lobo is actually from Belgium or France, of Italian heritage and really likes Spaghetti and riding American gas pig motorcycles.
He also likes long walks on the beach and deflowering his naive Forgotten Hope groupies... :D
Seriously @ Alakazou,
I just meant that I don't care to see any more updates. I would prefer nothing more than a release date and given the fact that testing has been ongoing for so long (over 6 months now), I think it's high time we get something out to the people. (especially anything that boosts the meagre player numbers we have in North America)
Ok, you eat horses now too? :P (I know where to get animal heads in Vancouver but a horse head would be real tough to find)
bump
/runs
No, seriously, I knew the text of the last update would be a Highway to Hell, I guess Lightning used his template for news updates, with the standard come back next week, bla bla bla
I am not saying you won't get update this week...I am neither saying you will get it...
...Bah, feel the pain, bloody junkies!
umm, Schneider you Europeans don't hold a monopoly on eating Horsemeat.
Off Topico ftw but..
Where are this guys, i mean, afaik, 5% of the entire FH2 dev team is posting here or is a little active, wheres the rest?
For Example, i think CTZ never posted here, or maybe he did but a few post. Omni.. well, where and who is Omni?
Shame someone like Omni lost interest, hes a good one.
he is busy with RL or lost fun in Moding.
lost fun in modding > lost interest. Same for me.