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Title: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: azreal on 08-01-2012, 18:01:00
We are back after our holiday break with our first update of 2012.

The Hardy Boy

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/
Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: IrishReloaded on 08-01-2012, 18:01:21
definatly Dora Railwaygun.
To smash every russian bunker, no matter how hard it is.

(http://einestages.spiegel.de/hund-images/2008/04/09/69/b9a54e915bad9db269e7d5d1db28258c_image_document_large_featured_borderless.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Yustax on 08-01-2012, 18:01:32
Its obviously a russian anti tank rifle  ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Torenico on 08-01-2012, 19:01:51
People will explode.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Paythoss on 08-01-2012, 19:01:06
(Old)Boys Carrier ?  ;D

(http://www.mindspring.com/~rmgill/britkit/vehicles/images/carrier2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kelmola on 08-01-2012, 19:01:15
I used to be a hardy boy like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee. ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Darman on 08-01-2012, 19:01:17
I used to be a hardy boy like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee. ;D

XD Skyrim. In my German version its "an adventurer, but then...".

I'd love to see another map, but I guess its a Russian tank or anti-tank weapon.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 08-01-2012, 19:01:39
No one will guess this.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-01-2012, 19:01:13
Hardy? Churchill definitavly
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Potilas on 08-01-2012, 19:01:58
Cant get anything hardy boy related hardware in my mind, but general Patton was hardy boy. Could it be U.S. army NA campaign announcement?   
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Krätzer on 08-01-2012, 19:01:57
Hardy? Churchill definitavly

There will be definitly no Player Model of the Prime Minister 
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-01-2012, 20:01:28
what
is
this


Me 

gusta!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 08-01-2012, 20:01:22
Yay, it's a plane!

But wait...where's the italian counterpart?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 08-01-2012, 20:01:11
Wow. Never saw that one coming.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-01-2012, 20:01:25
/me has a flashback to the pre-2.0 newsupdate about Swordfish.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: corsair89 on 08-01-2012, 20:01:41
Wow, antique biplane in FH2 ? This team will always amaze me ! Which other game could argue they have a Hawker Hart ou Hardy ?

I suppose it was made for Keren but will it saw another use ?

Now we need a Cr.32  ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Raziel on 08-01-2012, 20:01:03
 :D More planes ftw! Lovely looking aircraft! Goodjob Herc!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 08-01-2012, 20:01:39
Wow this came very unexpected, I never expected an varient of the Hawker Hart (I know the Hawker Hart only a few months where corgi diecast introduced it), now which italian counterpart can we expect CR.42?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 08-01-2012, 20:01:19
/me has a flashback to the pre-2.0 newsupdate about Swordfish.

I hope you're not implicating that this cutie will just sit in the files, unused and abandoned, like the poor old Swordfish... :P
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: th_battleaxe on 08-01-2012, 20:01:17
(http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/0/05/NOBODY_EXPECTS_THE_SPANISH_INQUISITION%21.jpg)

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!
in a Hawker hardy, who would...
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Rawhide on 08-01-2012, 20:01:03
North Africa stuff (http://www.forsnet.se/familjen/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango24/heart.png)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 08-01-2012, 21:01:48
Same.Hope it doesn't get the Swordfish way.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: CologneSky on 09-01-2012, 01:01:08
What happened to the Swordfish anyway?
Is it only intended for naval maps or could one not use a version with bombs for the North African theatre?

Oh and I would love to see some Soviet stuff  ;)

Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kelmola on 09-01-2012, 01:01:33
Talk about obscure. Only in FH2 would one even dream of having such a plane - even in IL-2 this would have been considered "not interesting enough". 8)

MFW Commonwealth is still spotting in North Africa with the Cub instead of Lysander (unless Hardy would actually replace it), and there is no sight of my beloved P-38 Lightning in Cobra, Meuse 1944, or Bastogne.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Torenico on 09-01-2012, 02:01:59
Talk about obscure. Only in FH2 would one even dream of having such a plane - even in IL-2 this would have been considered "not interesting enough". 8)

MFW Commonwealth is still spotting in North Africa with the Cub instead of Lysander (unless Hardy would actually replace it), and there is no sight of my beloved P-38 Lightning in Cobra, Meuse 1944, or Bastogne.

Your right. Not even in IL2 mods you see the Hawker Hardy
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Mud Buddha on 09-01-2012, 02:01:36
Good job on the Hawker, guys. It's absolutely beautiful. And hella original too. Indeed way too obscure and I love it all the more for it. I never really got into the pre WWII biplane era back when I was really into airplanes, but this sure is a nice re-introduction.

But, no tailgunner? And what's its payload gonna be?

Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: G.Drew on 09-01-2012, 02:01:06
Most likely 4x25-50kg bombs.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 09-01-2012, 02:01:41
But, no tailgunner? And what's its payload gonna be?
Armament was a single forward firing synchronised Vickers, one rear Lewis (on Scarff mount), and iirc up to 200 kg of bombs.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 09-01-2012, 03:01:11
I like those planes with that shape.Like Avia B-534.They look fast and maneuvrable,and to be well armed.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Mud Buddha on 09-01-2012, 12:01:45
But, no tailgunner? And what's its payload gonna be?
Armament was a single forward firing synchronised Vickers, one rear Lewis (on Scarff mount), and iirc up to 200 kg of bombs.

Thanks. Now I knew about the guns, but in the picture the rear MG isn't there.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-01-2012, 13:01:37
Great.

Nice model. Keep them coming!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-01-2012, 17:01:39
It could be that it issent modelled yet. This is a diffrent type vickers

As for the hardy, it could carry 225KG bombs so it seems.

This gives me hope on seeing Italian CR 32 and 42 and Henschel Hs 123
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: HappyFunBall on 09-01-2012, 20:01:32
Wow, that is a beautiful looking plane!

I LOVE the secondary fronts and the battles between otherwise obsolete equipment!
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 09-01-2012, 22:01:44
It could be that it issent modelled yet. This is a diffrent type vickers

This gives me hope on seeing Italian CR 32 and 42 and Henschel Hs 123
The Vickers is the forward gun (you can see the gun by the cockpit and the groove in the engine cowling on the right hand side.  The rear gun would be a lewis, which would require a new model (since aircraft lewis guns did away with the distinctive air-cooler).

I don't know about the CR 32, but the CR 42 was a close match to the Gloster Gladiator.  It would totally destroy the poor Hardy.  Tis a shame that there are no other maps the Hardy could be used on (out of active service before any maps that have allied aircraft).
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-01-2012, 22:01:06
Sorry i ment to say lewis  ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: VonMudra on 09-01-2012, 22:01:20
It could be that it issent modelled yet. This is a diffrent type vickers

This gives me hope on seeing Italian CR 32 and 42 and Henschel Hs 123
The Vickers is the forward gun (you can see the gun by the cockpit and the groove in the engine cowling on the right hand side.  The rear gun would be a lewis, which would require a new model (since aircraft lewis guns did away with the distinctive air-cooler).

I don't know about the CR 32, but the CR 42 was a close match to the Gloster Gladiator.  It would totally destroy the poor Hardy.  Tis a shame that there are no other maps the Hardy could be used on (out of active service before any maps that have allied aircraft).

Even the CR32 would have a pretty easy time, though the rear gunner would be pretty dangerous to it or the CR42.

If there is ever a remade Bardia, it could prob be used there....  Or any later Ethiopian maps.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Krätzer on 09-01-2012, 22:01:02
*Kräter reads in his imaginary next Generation WW2 Gaming Book.
Page Number one says, in next Gen WW2 gaming is no space for Aircrafts, they should be only in if they need to fly 100km to target throw their Bombs and have to fly back for landing, no re arm and so on.
After landing or shooting down you will be disconnected until next round starts*

This Aircrafts always bothered me, they are so unreal designed in BF2. With Airfield 20 Meter aways from the front. Superb fast respawn, sniping single Soldiers, rearm while fly over. Scoutplanes are so slow that they will be 20 seconds after take off be shut down. They give no points for spotting. they are totaly bad designed.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: VonMudra on 09-01-2012, 22:01:39
The tanks always bothered me, they are so unreal designed in BF2. With deployment area 20 Meter aways from the front. Super fast respawn, sniping single Soldiers with AP, rearm while driving past ammo box. Light tanks are so useless that they will be 20 seconds after jumping in be blown up. They give no points for spotting. they are totaly bad designed.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-01-2012, 23:01:41
Infantry is a bitch aswel. I always hated it. I mean, your wounded, you trow a bandage on the ground and paf, magic healing. And then the infantry suddently appear 20 meters from the front line, And not only there! They spawn from NCO's!OUT of thin air Not to mention that engineers can fix an entire tank with a silly wrench.And they can disarm mines with it. And what is the use for the LMG kit when rifles rape you 20 seconds after you spawned by long range accurate fire?
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Krätzer on 09-01-2012, 23:01:28
Tanks and Inf are fighting at the Front, but an Aircraft is not flying 45 Minutes over them to shoot down Single Infantery Units. Keep Tanks in Second Line = Posible, even if they only stay 200 Meters behind the 1st line.

But Aircrafts nonono even no magic rearm in the Air, they are Gods of the Battlefield in BF2.
I enjoy the Games without em so much.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: HappyFunBall on 09-01-2012, 23:01:07
Tanks and Inf are fighting at the Front, but an Aircraft is not flying 45 Minutes over them to shoot down Single Infantery Units. Keep Tanks in Second Line = Posible, even if they only stay 200 Meters behind the 1st line.

But Aircrafts nonono even no magic rearm in the Air, they are Gods of the Battlefield in BF2.
I enjoy the Games without em so much.

OMG if we are gonna start this debate again, I am going to start making posts asking where the submarines are in Vanilla SP '42
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 09-01-2012, 23:01:23
I don't understand how this little discussion started and what the point of it is ???
And after this please stop with the discussion about reality or post a new topic.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: VonMudra on 10-01-2012, 00:01:47
Tanks and Inf are fighting at the Front, but an Aircraft is not flying 45 Minutes over them to shoot down Single Infantery Units. Keep Tanks in Second Line = Posible, even if they only stay 200 Meters behind the 1st line.

But Aircrafts nonono even no magic rearm in the Air, they are Gods of the Battlefield in BF2.
I enjoy the Games without em so much.

I would hate to see a FH2 without airplanes.  And that comes from someone who flies in maybe 1%, if that, of his time in FH2.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: RAnDOOm on 10-01-2012, 00:01:15
Tanks and Inf are fighting at the Front, but an Aircraft is not flying 45 Minutes over them to shoot down Single Infantery Units. Keep Tanks in Second Line = Posible, even if they only stay 200 Meters behind the 1st line.

But Aircrafts nonono even no magic rearm in the Air, they are Gods of the Battlefield in BF2.
I enjoy the Games without em so much.

I would hate to see a FH2 without airplanes.  And that comes from someone who flies in maybe 1%, of that, of his time in FH2.

Indeed.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 10-01-2012, 00:01:13
Nooo ! More !

Actually I kinda like death from the air occasionally.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Natty on 10-01-2012, 07:01:54
Planes always have been and always will be, a part of FH game play. I can to some extent agree that the interaction between player in plane and player on ground is somewhat one-dimensional, but we do throw everything we have at the ground forces to be able to defend themselves.

What we lack is elements of overtaking airfields and denying the other team their air forces, only Cobra afaik offers this (and even there you arent denying, only moving the enemy air force)

I also think that air-to-air battles end a bit prematurely, longer duration dogfights should make it more fun. And ofcourse, some clear objective for players in planes is needed, apart from just randomly flying around in a little box and randomly spam rockets or bombs to the left and right.

Planes arent designed bad, handling and maneuverbility has increased a lot the last year. they just lack a clear target experience. They're flying tanks, more or less.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: CologneSky on 10-01-2012, 15:01:05
I know this hase been discussed one zillion times, but can we have nosecam back?!

Now since Lobo is gone, there might be a chance.  :P
This would make planes much better to use an compensate for the ridiculously small view distance..

Currently the FW 190 on Bastogne for instance is nearly useless for the average pilot (this excludes uber aces such as Karel88..)
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: psykfallet on 10-01-2012, 15:01:53
Just need to code joystick as a cheat and bannable by pb  ;D
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-01-2012, 19:01:21

Currently the FW 190 on Bastogne for instance is nearly useless for the average pilot (this excludes uber aces such as Karel88..)
that guy is insane
its like he is bred by genetic superior aryan genes

He is a man wich can take a piper cub and kill a kingtiger with it
But he aint cheating  ;D I humiliated him way to much for that
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 10-01-2012, 19:01:34
I flew against him on several occasions... The final score was around 10 to 1... It was bloody hard, but I did manage to get that kill in the end...  8)

The man simply can dissapear right under your nose...
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-01-2012, 19:01:43
Its his reflexes wich are very good. He once raped...Yes raped every single plane on Gazala with the Hurricane with the 2 .30CAL MG's alone
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 10-01-2012, 19:01:43
About Karel I ain't very sure if he is using cheats or not because I had several moments were something was wrong like in an airfight he was behind me and he was shooting bullets clearly over my plane and I got damage to that bullets or one moment I shot 3 garand bullets in his body in close combat he survived and even could sprint.

But there are also times he is clearly using tactics like in an airfight when I was in an hurricane behind him and he went to an higher allitude were I followed him untill he turned when I had troubles with turning the plane because of lower speed.

Other thing for aircombat maybe better health so combat isn't over in one second even with the stuka.

Sorry for my English.
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Alakazou on 11-01-2012, 00:01:20
Tanks and Inf are fighting at the Front, but an Aircraft is not flying 45 Minutes over them to shoot down Single Infantery Units. Keep Tanks in Second Line = Posible, even if they only stay 200 Meters behind the 1st line.

But Aircrafts nonono even no magic rearm in the Air, they are Gods of the Battlefield in BF2.
I enjoy the Games without em so much.

I would hate to see a FH2 without airplanes.  And that comes from someone who flies in maybe 1%, if that, of his time in FH2.

Well said brother
Title: Re: The Hardy Boy: Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Zulnex on 14-01-2012, 16:01:18
Splendid update as always. Many thanks Devs. 8)