Project Reality Mod

[Desertfox]

Well, as I said, I've seen the same in FH2, including PR bashing. I just don't want this community doing the same the PR community, and heck, virtually every gaming community. At this point, I've seen about the same playing PR/FH2, both communities are similar in many respects. In PR, players get angry because they expect you to know what to do, and if you don't , there's a problem. In FH, the same thing could happen, though because the way FH2 is setup, not as much is lost when you lose a Tank for example.  I just wish that both PR and FH2 players(Some do, many don't) could have open minds about both mods. I can honestly understand why some of them think FH2 is too arcade(they want something more unique from vBF2), and in many respects I agree, but I still play it because I personally have no problem with it. Some people want more of a radical change to gameplay, so they prefer PR.  Others wish for a little realism, with history and fun. Those guys prefer FH2. The problem for me starts when the debate between which is better begins, and we have a wave of elitism that is in effect now. I think they are both great mods, and both have great gameplay. It all depends on what the person in particular thinks is more fun. Of course, this is when people begin saying very opinionated statements about one mod or the other, given whichever one they prefer, which is again more elitist crap that should have no meaning, considering that what a person likes is their opinion.

[hankypanky]

Well, as I said, I've seen the same in FH2, including PR bashing. I just don't want this community doing the same the PR community, and heck, virtually every gaming community. At this point, I've seen about the same playing PR/FH2, both communities are similar in many respects. In PR, players get angry because they expect you to know what to do, and if you don't , there's a problem. In FH, the same thing could happen, though because the way FH2 is setup, not as much is lost when you lose a Tank for example.  I just wish that both PR and FH2 players(Some do, many don't) could have open minds about both mods. I can honestly understand why some of them think FH2 is too arcade(they want something more unique from vBF2), and in many respects I agree, but I still play it because I personally have no problem with it. Some people want more of a radical change to gameplay, so they prefer PR.  Others wish for a little realism, with history and fun. Those guys prefer FH2. The problem for me starts when the debate between which is better begins, and we have a wave of elitism that is in effect now. I think they are both great mods, and both have great gameplay. It all depends on what the person in particular thinks is more fun. Of course, this is when people begin saying very opinionated statements about one mod or the other, given whichever one they prefer, which is again more elitist crap that should have no meaning, considering that what a person likes is their opinion.

I agree, people should voice their opinion but its only an opinion. The only thing I was pointing out was that PR attracts more hardcore gamers, who are much more serious, then the average FH2 guy. This can obviously have its own problems. I was also pointing out my displeasure at the competition going on between both mods. However you made a very good point, for a matter of fact I might quote you in the future on the PR boards

[Hockeywarrior]

So the new version, 0.91 is out. Apparently alot of people are unhappy with it on the PR forums.

Personally I really really disliked 0.9 because suddenly I had a huge performance hit on all of the maps. Maps I used to get 60 fps on I barely scrape 30 now, and the ones I got 30 on before are total slide shows. The devs clearly screwed up between 0.87 and 0.9, and apparently things aren't much better in 0.91.

I used to play the mod often, but now what's the point when I can't even see what's going on? Lowering settings does not help, which points to major optimization issues. I just don't see how the devs could release a version that makes the game unplayable for so many people?

And on the elitism topic, I hate to say, it but I see ALOT more PR elitism towards FH2 than vise versa. Of course, it exists, but it's pretty one sided in that matter. If you scan through this thread, you'll see just how many FH2 players play PR and have supported the team in the past. That's pretty hard to find on the PR forums, and just mentioning "FH2" in a PR server often opens up a massive can of worms. Pretty immature, if you ask me.

[Lobo]

BTW whats up with all this talk on the PR forums about how the FH2 team should give up all its assets, like EOD2 did? This has been going on for a while, people wanting FH2 and PR to merge. TBH I find its kinda insulting, FH2 is great as it is, and deserves to be its own mod. Just because FH2 has a smaller community doesn't mean its a failure.

You will pry our FH from my cold dead hands.

[Mspfc Doc DuFresne]

I just had this vision of the PR team as Cardinal Richelieu in The Three Musketeers.

[General Tso]

Now I'm too frightened to even try PR!  I feel like I would be in way over my head without weeks of tutorials.   

[Alberto22]

since new patch now i can play gaza beach and other map without lag, very good patch

[Zrix]

Now I'm too frightened to even try PR!  I feel like I would be in way over my head without weeks of tutorials.  

Heh, you'll be fine There's a steep learning curve though, but just hang in there.

There's a pretty extensive manual, and a singleplayer mode. That should be enough to get familiar with the game mechanics.
Once you get online, there's often room for a beginner in the squads. Just let them know you're new and need some pointers, and follow the advice and orders given to you. A mic and workign VOIP is a big plus.
Oh, and try to watch some gameplay videos on YouTube. They are awesome for getting to know how things work.

[hankypanky]

since new patch now i can play gaza beach and other map without lag, very good patch

TBH it wasn't nearly good enough Oh well the mod is free, its not like I'm paying money for anything

[Desertfox]

.9 was a pretty big step, I somewhat expected problems. I think that eventually they will iron them out however

[Excavus]

.91 wasn't very good patch as I expected. You can't build FOBs on the edge of the map now, which sucks. I don't get any better performance on maps except a lower view distance. I still have a slideshow on Fallujah.

[Alberto22]

try lower video settings, for me, i have a very smooth play in all maps that before 0.91 were lagging

[Excavus]

I did lower video settings. Everything is on high except textures which are on medium, and it works fine. However I should be able to put the textures back on high like back in .87.

[Rawhide]

try lower video settings, for me, i have a very smooth play in all maps that before 0.91 were lagging

Same goes for me, better flow with this patch

But still, that bloody MT5 shader punkbuster crap is still coming by from time to time for me

[Hockeywarrior]

I did lower video settings. Everything is on high except textures which are on medium, and it works fine. However I should be able to put the textures back on high like back in .87.

I usually find that lowering settings doesn't effect my FPS, which is an issue alot of people are having, even those with really nice tricked out gaming machines who ran 0.87 like a breeze.

This points to major optimization issues which were obviously introduced primarily in 0.9. Now lowered view distances hurt gameplay without actually addressing the problem that's causing the huge performance problems.