What do you wanna see in the upcoming eastfront?

[darktimes]

hey... is FH1 still played BTW? I have a CD of bf1942 around, and Would love to see the old Maps...
but if nobody is playing that would be a waste of time.
and I don't want to start a new thread for a single question.

and to make this not too offtopic...


Maxim 1910, would be the russian "lafette" which can be moved like a pak.


the Record player, DP 28, needs to be in, and act like a Bren or BAR. it could be fired while standing, just reloading was hard.
on later maps 1943-1944 there was the DPM, which had a pistol grip and better parts.

[ajappat]

Why should DP be able to shoot from hip?

[hankypanky]

Why should DP be able to shoot from hip?

Because Russians never stop to shoot 

[GirlsHateMe]

For the Berlin maps 

MP 41



Volkssturm units -



...and possibly some Volkssturm weapons -

Volkssturmgewehr 1-5



MP 3008



 

[Ts4EVER]

MP41 was only used by Police, rear area SS and exported to the Romanians.

[darktimes]

yes, and the only difference to the MP40 is the wooden stock.
so, not realistic and pretty senseless.

the DP 28 should be able to be fired standing because
1. it only has 47 rounds.
2. is relatively light with only average Rate of fire. (comparing mg42)
3. its pretty much like the Bren Gameplay wise.

also, variants of the weapons were in the tanks and Planes.
in case of the tanks they had bigger barrel, a new visor, a bit more ammo, and were aimed with ironsights in case of the hull MG. (oh c'mon stop screaming german Bias already.)

and, hey, Is FH1 still played or not?

[VonMudra]

There is no hand guard, mate.  The Bren and BAR were designed to fire standing, the DP28 was not.  It was like the Breda, which also is not standing-fireable ingame. 

[Eat Uranium]

My thoughts were that it would have the deployed mode as normal, but also an assault mode where you can't go to ironsights but can fire standing (reload might be slightly longer too).  Would also apply to the Breda too.

[VonMudra]

My thoughts were that it would have the deployed mode as normal, but also an assault mode where you can't go to ironsights but can fire standing (reload might be slightly longer too).  Would also apply to the Breda too.  It's certainly possible to have that, but who knows.  Maybe I can bribe Kev into some experimentation...

They do that, its all or nothing imo, that the MG42 and 34 should get it.    And we know the devs will never do that.

[darktimes]

even though we all know that the germans MGs "uncontrollable Recoil" is a hollywood myth.

but seriously, the MG34/42 are far superior to the DP 28 when its not allowed to be fired standing.

also, handguard? AFAIK MG gunners were issued Gloves, so just put up those bipods and grab them. 
and please don't say "butz they didn't doo taht in WW2!!1" this is FH2. not PR. and its ridiculous to think that the rather crudely trained russian troops would give a shit about the "proper way to shoot a light machine gun"

[Yustax]

I would like to bring out that we need female soldiers for the russians; female soldiers in the soviet ranks were like 20% of their entire force.

[Michael Z Freeman]

Can we expect them to look anything like your avatar ? Ahhhrgh ! Run it is сударыня commanding ze tank !

[sheikyerbouti]

and, hey, Is FH1 still played or not?

yes, it is still played but numbers depend greatly on your specific time zone.

FH1 is popular during east coast USA and European gaming hours, while FHSW (secret weapon) is played at a very particular Japanese time of approx. 2 am Pacific, 5am Eastern onwards.

[Timmay9/11]

Eastfront, so, I was hoping for Operation Husky and more Italians but well,  the Italians where also fighting the Russians as we all know


I would suggest a battle that took place during the Operation Little Saturn. As we all know was the aim of Operation Little Saturn to counter the German Unternehmen Wintergewitter. Germans tried to relieve the trapped armies at Stalingrad, Russians launched counter counter attack (Operation Little Saturn). The (one aim) aim was to crush the weak pints of the German front line in that case the positions of the German allies, the Rumanians, Hungarians and Italians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Saturn#Operation_Little_Saturn

I would love to see the battle between the Russian 3rd Guards Army and the Italian 8th Army. The battle took place at the River Don near a Town called Millerovo. Manstein sent the 6th Panzer Division to the Italians' aid



So I would suggest a push map with the Russians attacking from the river Dom. Russians would attack with combined arms, so Tanks an Infantry.
Italians would defend with typical equipment, only a few trenches since the Italian army did not really set up a proper defence.
47/32 Anti Tank Gun Elefantino (already in game)
5-cm-PaK 38 (already in game)
7,5-cm-PaK 40  (already in game)
Fiat L6/40 (already in game)
Semovente 47/32 (don’t know if already in game)

As you can see from the Italian equipment, this would end in massive Italian slaughtering. That’s what happened but I would suggest that the paks would be movable to compensate the lack of proper tank support to face the Russian T34s and KVs.  Then, at a certain point of the game, when the Russian team has captured a fixed number of Flags we can start to represent the german 6th Panzer Division by spawning German tanks. So it would be the same trick as we have already on the Africa maps like Mareht Line.

Since I’m not home right now Im not 100% sure if the Italians already used the German Pak 40 and also on some other details I’m not 100% sure. A long time ago that I read about that battle.

So if the people think this would be worth a map I will read my books again an will provide “high quality” information on that battle but also I’m sure that on these forums there are enough geeks to improve my idea with ideas and information or they are going to prove that I’m total wrong on that one.


Points for that Map are clear
1.   Italians (yay!)
2.   Lots of the Italian models are already in game, don’t know if rescinning the Italian Soldiers would do the trick
3.   Don’t think that this battle was every portrayed in a FH game
4.   Took place during the said period of War






And I support the Idea of Volkssturm

[azreal]

it seems lots of ppl want a battle between Italians and Russians. Would the Italians need any special equipment or uniforms or anything?