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Off-Topic => Gaming => Topic started by: von.small on 16-06-2010, 15:06:06
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Star Wars franchise getting a bit - - hard to come up with new stuff despite the fact you've err engineered a whole universe, I completley dismissed SW:OR MMPOG because I thought it would be just like WAW..
then I saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6E0-hv8EeQ
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6E0-hv8EeQ)
and I wanted to be part of it.
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Quoting myself from other forum regarding the Alderaan cinematic trailer:
What the hell was I watching? It was like a dirty crossbreed between SW (somehow, I have no slightest idea which bit) and LOTR. I had absolutely no feeling of Star Wars in it, good thing they had blasters, lightsabers and the original music in it to remind me it was actually supposed to be a trailer of a Star Wars game. I know Im the only one on the island of dislike with this but I cant see how this title is any relevant to Star Wars. I never liked KOTOR series either, since I couldnt immerse myself into the universe in which I thought I was going to be in since it had the SW opening sequence, but it wasnt what I got after all.
Seriously, give me old school Galactic Civil War MMO or shooter for once. Where have gone the days of SotE, Jedi Knight and X-Wing vs TIE Fighter...
Then right after I posted about The Force Unleashed 2 which seemingly was slashing stormtroopers to bits and pieces.
I just cant get into this Old Republic nonsense. Why does Star Wars have to be all about the Force and lightsabers? I am more of an old school Han Solo kind of fan who takes the blaster over a saber anytime. I guess Im too old fashioned.
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I'm so going to pre-order this as soon as it is possible.
Flippy: Roll a smuggler, that's what I'm going to do ;D
von.small: One more homophobic slur and I will turn you into rancor fodder.
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Looks like fun, altough for a moment i thought that i was looking at a dragonball Z game.
I always wanted to be a clone in Starwars, lightsabers are nothing for me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e-Fl4D2NOE
Sorry Thorondor123 point noted - words mean different things to different people I should be more aware of that.
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I never was into MMORPG's, never understood the joy people got when playing them.
Regular RPG's was something diffrent. I only played 2 of them, but i enjoyed them all=Fallout universe and Knights of the old republic
Seeing this trailer, i am sure i am gonna buy this game. And i really hope, that with the filming type this trailer was made, a movie is being brought up with. I would defiantly watch it
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I never was into MMORPG's, never understood the joy people got when playing them.
That's what I though before I tried The Lord of The Rings Online ;D
But yeah, I absolutely loved KoTOR... and while we are at it, ALL BioWare games I have played. Star Wars + BioWare = <3
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I never was into MMORPG's, never understood the joy people got when playing them.
Regular RPG's was something diffrent. I only played 2 of them, but i enjoyed them all=Fallout universe and Knights of the old republic
Seeing this trailer, i am sure i am gonna buy this game. And i really hope, that with the filming type this trailer was made, a movie is being brought up with. I would defiantly watch it
It's a TV series, well 2 TV series I've heard, first one is out next year - about Darth Vaders secret apprentice, then one about the Old Republic that Kyle geezer, you know the one with the beard and stuff.
*generic jedi format of beard and stuff noted...
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I have nothing with MMORPGs but I am a big Star Wars fan and this looks awesome.
But I can't get over the fact that the new (as in: from the recent trilogy) laser sounds are so weak. There's no power in them whatsoever.
Plus, I still have to get used to the whole 3000 year old Old Republic. It simply doesn't feel 3000 years old. I mean, if you compare our world now to the human world 3000 years ago, it looks a hell of a lot different. The old republic doesn't really feel that well thought out, design-wise. It looks like they have been standing still on the technological front, for 3000 years. They basically have the same stuff Luke and his buddies had (lightsabers, lasers, hyperdrive capability, droids, etc.), and it hardly looks older. Okay, I'm basing this on my experiences with Knight Of The Old Republic 1 & 2 (great geames nonetheless!), and maybe this game isn't set exactly around that time, but still...
Sorry, I can get a bit ranty when it comes to my favorite galaxy far far away.... ;-)
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Star Wars Galaxies was a nice try, but it ended in endless grinding as somehow all MMORPGs do.
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I have nothing with MMORPGs but I am a big Star Wars fan and this looks awesome.
But I can't get over the fact that the new (as in: from the recent trilogy) laser sounds are so weak. There's no power in them whatsoever.
Plus, I still have to get used to the whole 3000 year old Old Republic. It simply doesn't feel 3000 years old. I mean, if you compare our world now to the human world 3000 years ago, it looks a hell of a lot different. The old republic doesn't really feel that well thought out, design-wise. It looks like they have been standing still on the technological front, for 3000 years. They basically have the same stuff Luke and his buddies had (lightsabers, lasers, hyperdrive capability, droids, etc.), and it hardly looks older. Okay, I'm basing this on my experiences with Knight Of The Old Republic 1 & 2 (great geames nonetheless!), and maybe this game isn't set exactly around that time, but still...
Sorry, I can get a bit ranty when it comes to my favorite galaxy far far away.... ;-)
Well, even by the times of the Exar Kun war/Jedi civil war era (before and around KoTOR) the republic was already 20 000 years old. I guess that since then, the technology has not advanced quite so fast as on Earth. Styles and fashion comes and goes but the basic technology advances slowly.
I have also seen some people criticising episodes I - III because of the "fancier looks" of spaceships and computers and so on. But the technology is actually the same. I see The Old Republic somewhat like The Roman Empire. Thousands of years the republic has lived relatively in peace, concentrating on high class lifestyle, fancy designs and overly decorated UI's to mentions some aspects. But then came Palpatine and turned the ancient republic into a cold, ruthless, effective Sith-empire. The glorious republic collapsed and the change is shown in everything, including fashion and design. This is, at least, how I see it. :)
Star Wars Galaxies was a nice try, but it ended in endless grinding as somehow all MMORPGs do.
Not necessarily... Asheron's Call is still going strong after over ten years. I'm not familiar with the facts, but it seems that it was the "New Game Enhancements" that killed Galaxies.
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Meh, all they need to do is re-make X-Wing Alliance... *dreams*
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Meh, all they need to do is re-make X-Wing Alliance... *dreams*
And a JK4 with Kyle katarn :)
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While im a person that feels Star Wars has long since past its prime in the public spotlight, this game is pretty interesting. Regardless of the fact I won't be playing it.
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@ Thorondor:
yeah, I agree and like your Roman Empire to Medieval times comparison. That's basically how I like to view it too, but I always have more of a Weimar Republic => Nazi Germany comparison in my head. It makes sense for the old republic to look way shinier than the new Empire but I miss that gritty-ness that made Star Wars, well, so Star Wars. ;)
Plus, in the original trilogy the laserguns were treated more like semi-auto rifles with seperate bolts being fired. All the guns in the recent trilogy seem to be more akin to full auto MGs. You can hardly distinguish cause (a shot fired) and effect (an impact) on screen anymore. Now it's just a blur of special effects. That, plus the weaker sound makes it less convincing/believable I guess.
Also the strategies seem so unlogical/anachronistic in the new movies: basically like (indeed) Roman armies just walking towards eachother while in my opinion it should be more like WWII-or-later style tactics where they actually take the difference between armor and infantry in mind. They don't even seek cover, they just walk around shooting and dying. The end battle on Endor was a great movie battle (apart from the Tarzan aping Chewie and some other overly "funny" scenes) because it was shown on a tactical level instead of wide scale all-out war.
Pff, sorry, I'm getting carried away here. So don't get me wrong, I love all this Star Wars stuff and I can go for hours. ;)
And yeah, they should remake X Wing Alliance (or better yet Tie Fighter) and I wouldn't mind a sort of Brothers in Arms type Dark Forces/Kyle Katarn singleplayer game, and not necessarily with all the Jedi bits in.
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I never was into MMORPG's, never understood the joy people got when playing them.
Regular RPG's was something diffrent. I only played 2 of them, but i enjoyed them all=Fallout universe and Knights of the old republic
Seeing this trailer, i am sure i am gonna buy this game. And i really hope, that with the filming type this trailer was made, a movie is being brought up with. I would defiantly watch it
It's a TV series, well 2 TV series I've heard, first one is out next year - about Darth Vaders secret apprentice, then one about the Old Republic that Kyle geezer, you know the one with the beard and stuff.
*generic jedi format of beard and stuff noted...
LINK???
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Being a star wars noob I would have said the trailer was set during the clone wars due to the uniforms and stuff.
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Yeah, the dudes in white made me think of ARC troopers (specialized clonetroopers).
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I just cant get into this Old Republic nonsense. Why does Star Wars have to be all about the Force and lightsabers? I am more of an old school Han Solo kind of fan who takes the blaster over a saber anytime. I guess Im too old fashioned.
You are not alone.
Seriously, I like taking a lightsaber and smash everything, but then you're missing out on several aspects of the SW world - fly with the Boba Fett jetpack, deploy Auto-turrets and defend a point with that and your MG, etc. etc.
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I just cant get into this Old Republic nonsense. Why does Star Wars have to be all about the Force and lightsabers? I am more of an old school Han Solo kind of fan who takes the blaster over a saber anytime. I guess Im too old fashioned.
You are not alone.
Seriously, I like taking a lightsaber and smash everything, but then you're missing out on several aspects of the SW world - fly with the Boba Fett jetpack, deploy Auto-turrets and defend a point with that and your MG, etc. etc.
You don't have to use a lightsabre :p
During this era, the Mandalorians were allied with the Sith empire. In SW:TOR you can play as a Boba Fett -esque bounty hunter if you so wish. In fact, you can even see a Mandalorian with a jetpack in the trailer.
I didn't quite understand the part with deploying auto-turrets and MG's.
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I just cant get into this Old Republic nonsense. Why does Star Wars have to be all about the Force and lightsabers? I am more of an old school Han Solo kind of fan who takes the blaster over a saber anytime. I guess Im too old fashioned.
You are not alone.
Seriously, I like taking a lightsaber and smash everything, but then you're missing out on several aspects of the SW world - fly with the Boba Fett jetpack, deploy Auto-turrets and defend a point with that and your MG, etc. etc.
I didn't quite understand the part with deploying auto-turrets and MG's.
See Star Wars: Battlefront 2
Edit: at flippy: I know how to freaking quote. it just got messed up.
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Dont put words into Thorondor's mouth. People seriously need to learn how to quote properly.
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I just cant get into this Old Republic nonsense. Why does Star Wars have to be all about the Force and lightsabers? I am more of an old school Han Solo kind of fan who takes the blaster over a saber anytime. I guess Im too old fashioned.
You are not alone.
Seriously, I like taking a lightsaber and smash everything, but then you're missing out on several aspects of the SW world - fly with the Boba Fett jetpack, deploy Auto-turrets and defend a point with that and your MG, etc. etc.
You don't have to use a lightsabre :p
During this era, the Mandalorians were allied with the Sith empire. In SW:TOR you can play as a Boba Fett -esque bounty hunter if you so wish. In fact, you can even see a Mandalorian with a jetpack in the trailer.
I didn't quite understand the part with deploying auto-turrets and MG's.
Deployable auto-turrets , drones and the lot...
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Doesnt sound too star wars to me.
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Doesnt sound too star wars to me.
True. But drones were always part of SW. From the reflex training of Luke in the MF to search-drones and questioning-drones.
I would just like a Storm-trooper wit a Blaster rifle or a recon rebel with a blaster pistol.
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I'm not very much into Star Wars, I always liked space combat most. And I'm not into lightsabres, close combat or superpowers either. So, I'd be the guy with the minigun.
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OK, let's just leave Battlefront somewhere there and stay with The Old Republic.
Star Wars: The Old Republic is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-playing Game by BioWare. This being a BioWare game, there is a huge emphasis on the story. The game is set in time 350 years after the Exar Kun war, 300 years after the Knights of The Old Republic and more than 3 500 years before Episode IV.
There are two factions, The Republic + The Jedi and The Sith empire.
Some of you seem to think TOR is only lightsabre hack & slash. This is definitely not the case. Player can of course be a lightsabre wielding Jedi or a Sith-inquisitor, but that's just a part of the game. You can join the republic army as a bad-ass Trooper with shiny armour and blaster rifle or fight for democracy and freedom as scruffy-looking nerf-herder.. no, I mean a Smuggler
And if you hate freedom and peace, you can play as a Sith warrior or an Imperial agent. And since some of you like Boba Fett, good news! You can also play as a Bounty hunter.
And yes, there will be droids. Maybe you can even purchase an astro-mech droid for your personal space ship.
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I do already think there should be a third non-faction then. So you could make a career being neither good or evil but following your own goals, like Lando Calrissian did. My goal would be my own mining facility with a cloud city over bespin, a few thousand slaves, some tiny space-dockyard hidden in an asteroid and excellent relations with pirates around. But I guess I'm asking for too much.
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Damn, being Lando would be awesome.
"Galaxies most finest malt beverages, Colt 45 liquor."
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So what, the clones invaded Middle Earth? Would they finally reveal wht the force is? Might it be connected with the one ring?
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So what, the clones invaded Middle Earth? Would they finally reveal wht the force is? Might it be connected with the one ring?
The Force is... *gulp* *cough* microscopic bacteria called... *cough* *gargle* midichlorians.
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So what, the clones invaded Middle Earth? Would they finally reveal wht the force is? Might it be connected with the one ring?
The Force is... *gulp* *cough* microscopic bacteria called... *cough* *gargle* midichlorians.
No it's not :P
They merely affect to the Force-sensitivity of a being. They are not the Force itself.
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The Force is... *gulp* *cough* microscopic bacteria called... *cough* *gargle* midichlorians.
It's spelled 'mitochondria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrion)'. ;)
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If 'The Force' can beat the Strong Nuclear Force in a contest, I will promise to not laugh at Star Wars nerds* ever again.
*People who's knowledge extends beyond the 6 movies.
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All these geeks who wanna be a jedi on this game makes me laugh
If i am gonna buy this game, i'm choosing the trooper class, with that epic minigun you can see
And then play with TF2 the heavy quotes
"CRY SOME MORE!"
"It costs 400000 republic credits to fire this weapon.........for twelve seconds"
"Little little sith! you are no match for me!"
"Some bounty hunters say they can outflank me.......sniff..... i have yet to meet man, we can outflank laser"
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Actually, according to the forums the most anticipated classes seem to be Trooper and Bounty Hunter. Smugglers and Sith Warriors following on second place.
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thats good to hear. If everyone becomes a jedi, then this game wont be as cool.
Anyway thorondor, do you have a source of where you said their will be a series made of the Old republic?
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I said no such thing, it was von.small.
But this is all I know about such things:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_live-action_TV_series
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I said no such thing, it was von.small.
But this is all I know about such things:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_live-action_TV_series
oh sorry. But thanks
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Stuff
I took this thread and turned it into a generic TOR thread, I hope you don't mind ;D
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Smuggler hands-on by massively:
http://www.massively.com/2010/06/18/e3-2010-hands-on-with-the-old-republics-smuggler-class/
"It's not re-inventing the wheel, but it is taking that wheel and giving it the gold plating it needs."
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Truly. This game is looking to be great.
if only starships where in and such. it would have been perfect
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Truly. This game is looking to be great.
if only starships where in and such. it would have been perfect
On ships and travelling:
- Each class gets their own ship to be used as a hub, store items and to get between planets - E3 Reveal (E3 IGN June 2010)
- The sort of ships you can get are as follows: Corellian transport for a Galactic Republic player, and a "Sith Interceptor" for Sith Empire players. - E3 1up June 2010
- The ships seem to be class based as Daniel stated there are Sith ships, Trooper ships, Smuggler ships etc - E3 Darth Hater DE
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oh but thats nice. And good enough for me :)
I'll wait for a next starwars space battle game like Empire at war for that.
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Interesting interview:
http://angryjoeshow.com/2010/06/swtor-interview/
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Haha! That developer had the most uncomfortable look on his face. ;D
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That guy is seriously nuts
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Meh, all they need to do is re-make X-Wing Alliance... *dreams*
Agree mate! Totally Agree!
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Meh, all they need to do is re-make X-Wing Alliance... *dreams*
Agree mate! Totally Agree!
Yeah, I don't think I've ever played a more intense game than star wars battlefront arial combat maps, the controls were hard to get used to at first - running out of room for the mouse on the desk, but it was like being in the movie. Had some really good laughs piloting the Clone Dropships.
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Geonosis was great to play with those Clone gunships.
And then you had bespin. I always grabbed a bomber and did some crazy bombing runs with it
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Galactic Conquest and First Strike... such great mods. I'd say they are by far the best SW gaming experiences I've ever experienced. Too bad theres no players for FS. :(
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I would love a battlefront 3 though. If Lucasarts is smart, they model everything like it appears in the series (weapons and such) and make the gameplay a bit like FH2
and then ofcourse 200 players in one match
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I would love a battlefront 3 though. If Lucasarts is smart, they model everything like it appears in the series (weapons and such) and make the gameplay a bit like FH2
and then ofcourse 200 players in one match
What a daydream. :P
I kinda liked first Battlefront... but then again it was nothing but stealing from Galactic Conquest, the mod I was part of back then, so it is in my nature to dislike something that platantly rips off the stuff GC came up with. ;)
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I would love a battlefront 3 though. If Lucasarts is smart, they model everything like it appears in the series (weapons and such) and make the gameplay a bit like FH2
and then ofcourse 200 players in one match
What a daydream. :P
I kinda liked first Battlefront... but then again it was nothing but stealing from Galactic Conquest, the mod I was part of back then, so it is in my nature to dislike something that platantly rips off the stuff GC came up with. ;)
i see your point ;)
but i would still love a battlefront style game now. This time with everything the republic has and the CIS from the latest series and such.
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I have dreams of one day playing Battlefront 3 :|
Edit: BF:3 and SW: BF3
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A new video from E3:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/e3-multiplayer-demo
This time, some group gameplay.
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Words cannot describe how huge facepalming feeling I am having after watching that video. "Stop ripping off Star Wars!"
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still is much better then all those MMORPG's
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did someone say rip off star wars? http://everydayglimpse.blogspot.com/2010/07/star-wars-in-modern-art.html
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Some of those are pretty good
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Love the pic with the 3 Stormtroopers and Darth Vader.
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Haha, I spotted A-team in Jesus Christ style ;D
The AT-AT walker (? no expert sorry) with dog food and dog coat is awesome too, I literally LOL'd about that one.
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The AT-AT walker (? no expert sorry) with dog food and dog coat is awesome too, I literally LOL'd about that one.
Then you're gonna love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVYOCMpJRY&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVYOCMpJRY&feature=youtu.be)
And yes, it is indeed an AT-AT. ;)
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And Jabba is the poo ;D
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The AT-AT walker (? no expert sorry) with dog food and dog coat is awesome too, I literally LOL'd about that one.
Then you're gonna love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVYOCMpJRY&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVYOCMpJRY&feature=youtu.be)
And yes, it is indeed an AT-AT. ;)
Haha, amazing! Attack the squirrel :)
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Press buttons, revive threads. 8)
Cinematic trailer 2011, holy shit. :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lrk2BE4Tqc
Definitely thinking of playing this
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Press buttons, revive threads. 8)
Cinematic trailer 2011, holy shit. :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lrk2BE4Tqc
Definitely thinking of playing this
If only they would make a few movies or a serie in that kind of quality
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Yeah, I thought it looked great
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That space cowboy dude = Han Solo.
Those Republic Troopers = Clone Troopers.
Those Sith ships = Star Destroyers and Tie Fighters.
The whole idea feels sort of recycled to me. Also I will never buy a game requiring me to pay a subscription.
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money money !
sad, no kotor3
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That space cowboy dude = Han Solo.
Those Republic Troopers = Clone Troopers.
Those Sith ships = Star Destroyers and Tie Fighters.
The whole idea feels sort of recycled to me. Also I will never buy a game requiring me to pay a subscription.
Couldn't agree more. I'm not impressed at all with the trailer.
"The Sith empire has returned!" made me laugh. So sudden.
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The story itself is a little corny, but the animation is great
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sooooo
anyone bought this game yet?
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Level 18 Gunslinger
Level 16 Sith Marauder
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Level 18 Gunslinger
Level 16 Sith Marauder
Hows the game?
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Level 18 Gunslinger
Level 16 Sith Marauder
Hows the game?
Knights of The Old Republic + Mass Effect + enhanced traditional MMO mechanics with BioWare style story telling and voice acting.
Combat feels better than in most MMO's that I have played. Thanks to the voice acting and story, the quests don't feel nowhere as meaningless as some generic 'bring me 10 bear arses' -quests. The companions/crew members are great.
And since it's a BioWare game, it's not a big surprise that I absolutely love the stories that I have tried thus far (smuggler and sith warrior).
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I want to buy it, but I cannot mentally justify a subscription
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^What he said.
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Ditto.
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22 Sith Warrior maurauder on the server -Scepter of Ragnos- sithloads of scandinavians!
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Isn't it really just a singleplayer RPG with a monthly fee?
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Isn't it really just a singleplayer RPG with a monthly fee?
Guess who has not played it.
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I am really asking, as that's the vibe I get from most reviews and I can't play it as they have no free trial. Greedy sobs.
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Free trial in a MMO is not usually a launch feature.
For the single player part... Yes, I guess you could play it as an single player RPG (KoTOR 3, 4, 5, etc) but that way you would skip half of the content and fun.
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I promise no credits, only immortality.
http://gamerant.com/star-wars-the-old-republic-invincibility-exploit-jeff-123464/