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« Reply #2415 on: 11-02-2013, 13:02:52 »
Not smart to store fuel that long, for some reason your car cant use it anymore when it is a year old. Many LPG drivers suffer from this problem since they fill up the gas tank often but rarely the petrol tank. Then after a while they cant start anymore.

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« Reply #2416 on: 11-02-2013, 14:02:22 »
By coincidence that same subject was featured in one of the Finnish tabloid online news yesterday :P
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« Reply #2417 on: 11-02-2013, 14:02:48 »
Lucky me I am not Finnish and do not understand this language.

@Siben: I did not know this. I always thought that it would be like alcohol and last a very long time. So, scratch that plan.
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« Reply #2418 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:50 »
Current Belgian gas price=

1.69€ for Euro 95 gasoline
1.52€ for diesel
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« Reply #2419 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:45 »
@Siben: I did not know this. I always thought that it would be like alcohol and last a very long time. So, scratch that plan.

Yeah, but that is when the fuel is in your car, i have no idea why this happens, only that is happens.
Maybe if you store it in a big tank and mix it once and a while it is different, I have no clue. Maybe somebody here knows.

@ theta, just filled her up for €1.569 yesterday (Euro 95 S10). Find a good station and don't be an idiot and pay the max price.

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« Reply #2420 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:31 »
Germany:

1.61 for E95
1.47 for Diesel

France:

1.54 for E95
1.39 for Diesel

The numbers for France seem a bit off to me. Last time I was there it was even more expensive than in Germany.
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« Reply #2421 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:30 »
@Siben: I did not know this. I always thought that it would be like alcohol and last a very long time. So, scratch that plan.

Yeah, but that is when the fuel is in your car, i have no idea why this happens, only that is happens.
Maybe if you store it in a big tank and mix it once and a while it is different, I have no clue. Maybe somebody here knows.

@ theta, just filled her up for €1.569 yesterday (Euro 95 S10). Find a good station and don't be an idiot and pay the max price.
everybody is talking here about the maximum price n00b!  I pay around 1.57 aswel
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #2422 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:54 »
@Siben: I did not know this. I always thought that it would be like alcohol and last a very long time. So, scratch that plan.

Yeah, but that is when the fuel is in your car, i have no idea why this happens, only that is happens.
Maybe if you store it in a big tank and mix it once and a while it is different, I have no clue. Maybe somebody here knows.

@ theta, just filled her up for €1.569 yesterday (Euro 95 S10). Find a good station and don't be an idiot and pay the max price.

Well, not sure of this, but i think i know since i learned in chemistry how they get fuel in the first place. They get fuel during "oilcracking" which is putting the oil under cetain conditions (temperature, pressure etc.) in a large high barrel. Then the oil gets different layers in it due to the fact that the C-chains of different lengths have different weight in proportion to their mass. They then tap the substance they want  at the height it should be. And then They process the larger chains with cracking them in shorter ones. And by mixing what they want, they then get the different kinds of fuel (kerosene, diesel, etc.). My guess is that if you leave fuel too long standing, it will layer again or that the cracked chains make new chains.

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« Reply #2423 on: 11-02-2013, 15:02:31 »
I never was good in chemistry class, it dissapointed me too much. Thanks for the info. Even I should have understood that.
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #2424 on: 11-02-2013, 19:02:55 »
The problem with storing petrol/gasoline is not the stuff itself (the governments should know, as they have wtfhueg emergency stockpiles of it), but the recently added alcohol content. 5% doesn't matter much, so 98E5 (99 V-Power, any proper fuel) will stay good much longer (not that I would even put that 95E10 crap in mah car). However, 10%, as in 95E10, it does matter, because it starts to break down the molecules in the petrol and actually form a sort of resin, which will clog your filter and/or injection if ingested by the fuel pump.

Reportedly, sudden temperature changes, especially going from minus to plus Celsius or vice versa, accelerate the process, so in typical Southern Finnish winter weather, 95E10 can be ruined within WEEKS, as opposed to several months for E5 or even years for alcohol-free petrol.

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« Reply #2425 on: 11-02-2013, 20:02:54 »
Thank you all for the information you gave me. It is good that there are still people like you around on the internet.
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« Reply #2426 on: 11-02-2013, 21:02:40 »
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« Reply #2427 on: 12-02-2013, 00:02:20 »


Reportedly, sudden temperature changes, especially going from minus to plus Celsius or vice versa, accelerate the process, so in typical Southern Finnish winter weather

What it was like almost around 20C what the temperature changed that one nice saturday morning few weeks ago?

Also big news in Finland right now

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-1288539493646.html?pos=ok-nln
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #2428 on: 12-02-2013, 02:02:51 »
Here's a fun historical tidbit:

On this day in 1941, fascist Italian propagandists set up a boxing match between 6'6'' heavyweight world boxing champ Primo Carnera and Kay Masaki, a Zulu/British prisoner of war who had never set foot in the boxing ring. Mussolini arranged the fight to make a propaganda film "proving the inferiority of the negro race".
The film was cancelled when Masaki knocked out Carnera in one punch.

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« Reply #2429 on: 12-02-2013, 05:02:41 »
Primo Carnera was a phony champion. Didn't he also have connections to the mob or something?