Author Topic: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka  (Read 2350 times)

Offline katakulli

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      Currently some people use those weapons as raping machines, they just grap a halftruck than spam rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka projectiles to flags.That's why i want to ask ''could you limit the range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka like fh1 please?''

    In fh1 if their projectiles hit the limit they stop and fall to ground so people can not abuse their range by aiming higher than target. I don't know what was real range of rifle grenades but i think their range should be limited to 100 metres like panzerschreck and bazooka.
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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #1 on: 07-11-2010, 16:11:33 »
the panzerschreck got an effective range of 150- 200m. It was used against tanks and also in city to clear buildings. Panzerschreck was a 2 men weapon, one shooter and one loader.
If you higher the weapon it will fly further, that is simply physic, same for the rifle nade.

I understand the problem with rifle nades, but I dissagree with lowering their range totaly. Bazooka and schrecks dont have that much splash damage. And IIRC an american soldier landing on the beach got that stuff with him: Rifle + x clips. 2 frag nades, 2 rifle nades, 100g TNT, 1 smoke grenade.

(I even would like that the zook and schreck got a higher ranger..)^^

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #2 on: 07-11-2010, 17:11:26 »
You mean like the FH1's schreck and faust you couldn't shoot longer than a handgrenade ? :-X That was awful !

The range of FH2 for a bazzoka/schreck seems to be something like 200-250 m (good luck to hit anything past 200 !), and if it has to be taken down, please, please, PLEASE don't do it like FH1...

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #3 on: 07-11-2010, 17:11:05 »
Or in FH1 when you fire the faust in a nice arc and it is closing in on that T34=
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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #4 on: 07-11-2010, 23:11:01 »
FH1's way of doing it was very unrealistic, it was only done like that because of the engine restritions, if I recall correctly.

Effective range against vehicles and the actual range are 2 different things.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #5 on: 12-11-2010, 18:11:44 »
     ...they just grap a halftruck than spam rifle grenades....

How can anyone spam a rifle grenade? You can charge and bayonet them in the time it takes to reload one.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #6 on: 12-11-2010, 22:11:06 »
Actually its quite fast if you have 2 granades
its just load a new grenade + bullet
with garand its even faster because its semi-auto
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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #7 on: 12-11-2010, 22:11:20 »
no garand also loads a new bullet.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #8 on: 13-11-2010, 02:11:26 »

How can anyone spam a rifle grenade? You can charge and bayonet them in the time it takes to reload one.

  You want example for grenade spam? Battle of brest, we couldn't capture first position for like 20 minutes. If you check the screenshot you can see 3 things.
 
 1. A player
 2. An ammo box
 3. 3 grenade kills
 
  He didn't throw 2 grenades, he didn't throw 10 grenades, he spammed hand grenades for like 20 minutes   ::)



  The good thing about hand grenades they have limited range, but rifle grenades, panzerschrecks and bazookas have at least 400 metres range.

     Example: Op. cobra
 
Some players just grab a some kind of transportation vehicle to use as an ammo source. Than they go and park it 400 metres away from farmhouse or watermill and boom here comes rifle grenades every 15 seconds  8) orrrr here comes bazooka projectiles every 7-8 seconds.  8)  Bazooka artillery? Yeah, why not  ::)
   
   


« Last Edit: 13-11-2010, 02:11:03 by katakulli »
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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #9 on: 13-11-2010, 02:11:55 »
Sounds like a legit tactic to me. Better than using them on close range to insta gib people.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #10 on: 13-11-2010, 02:11:10 »
  The good thing about hand grenades they have limited range, but rifle grenades, panzerschrecks and bazookas have at least 400 metres range.

     Example: Op. cobra

Wrong. Like I said, 200/250, and you can't aim anything past 200.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #11 on: 13-11-2010, 09:11:56 »
its okey for me. Its not the way I play, but if people want to play this then let them. An APC was an ammo truck for infantry so its totaly okey. And at a range of 150-200m you dont really hit something exactly. Its then not more then a lucky hit.


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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #12 on: 13-11-2010, 10:11:40 »
Rifle grenades are very ok in FH2.

Dunno how rockets behaved in rl but they probably felt dow after some peroid of distance they flew.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #13 on: 13-11-2010, 12:11:34 »
I have never seen guys doing it, so I dont think this is a severe problem that is worth nerving the grenades and at weapons.

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Re: Range of rifle grenades, panzerschreck and bazooka
« Reply #14 on: 13-11-2010, 17:11:31 »
<cough>  On the range of things.  Grenade launchers can launch over several hundred yards in real life.  Panzerfausts were generally able to shoot twice as far as their range, but that of course was highly inaccurate, and Panzerschrecks, well.

In the 1990s, a group in germany decided to test just how accurate a schreck was, a subject of constant debate.  So, they figured the best way to test it was to get a guy who actually was trained on it.  So, they found an 80-something year old German veteran who had been a tank hunter in WW2.  They handed him panzerschreck, 3 rounds, and pointed him at 3 T-34 cutouts 400 yards away.  This aging veteran then proceeded to hit each one.