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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Lightning on 25-10-2009, 18:10:07
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Coming later tonight, in about 2 hours, with 3 renders of brand new, never-before-seen-in-FH vehicles.
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yeah
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I really hope these are Hobart's funnies for Juno. The name Mickey Mouse club makes me think of them, given how the Americans derided them.
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Oooh, wow! Finally, our trek continues...
Someone start guessing... Jagdpanzer?, "mickey mouse".. Mau... Naah!
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We are excited ... 8)
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Oooh, wow! Finally, our trek continues...
Someone start guessing... Jagdpanzer?, "mickey mouse".. Mau... Naah!
Jagdpanzer was in FH1 so it can't be that... to be honest there were very few mainstream vehicles not in FH1, so the three we're seeing today should be very interesting indeed. Can't wait.
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oooh... wow - Never BEFORE seen in FH... didn't see that part
I wonder what happens if 2 are German weapons of mass destruction?
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Even I am excited about the Update. ;D
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Mickey Mouse...German for Mouse: Maus. Sounds logical :D
Can´t wait to see the update.
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Well, I'm certainly looking forward to this. ;D
P.S. I don't actually know what this contains yet so don't ask me - however, if you do know, don't hesitate to tell me.
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if you eliminate the impossible, the remainder, no matter how improbable must be the truth...
There are ALOT of impossibles based the 'never before seen' clause - But Maus is VERY, VERY implausible
Then again, in official FH, there never was a quad 50 cal was there?
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Jagdtiger?
I want it...now...
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One could be the Centaur (Cromwell with howitzer). It would fit on the Port en Bessin map that might be in the works.
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Ratte, Maus and V3!
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T-34 with twin turret hatches aka micky maus? O_o
(http://worldwartwozone.com/forums/attachments/land-warfare/3947d1218979612-the-t34-tank-741.jpg)
an eastern front vehicle seems strange though
can't remember if the mickey-eared turret was in the FH1 model, too
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Oh heavens.
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@ Rattovolante
For far, far in the future for a theater far, far away?
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Maybe the early Tiger with the "Mickey Mouse" storage boxes, but I see no use for that one.
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Or maybe it's something way more obvious :P
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now i want to never leave this room for the next two hours...
wow...never before seen in FH...
jesus christ...
and to think we'll have bocage soon as well!
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i like big MAUS and i cannot lie! U other brothers cant deny!
J/K
MY guess= HELLCAT! Plx! Please let it be the hellcat
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Yeah, Hellcat, Centaur and perhaps a Hetzer would be my guess too
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Jackson, Jagdpanther and, yeah, Hellcat, why not
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Jackson, Jagdpanther and, yeah, Hellcat, why not
Jackson and Jagdpanther were in FH. ;)
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Jackson, Jagdpanther and, yeah, Hellcat, why not
Jackson and Jagdpanther were in FH. ;)
But not sie hellcat ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Then my guess is, Jagdtiger, Hetzer and, hellcat, nah, Maus.
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Then what ever happens to 'mickey mouse'?
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must be maus, ratte and........
I have a new guess=nashorn
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I have a new guess=nashorn
That's more of an Eastern front weapon.
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Or a captured German KV2 who was apparently used by the Germans on the West...
Oh or... Sturmtiger?
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I have a new guess=nashorn
That's more of an Eastern front weapon.
a few where used on the westren front
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And the Nashorn became the first tank to kill a M26 Pershing, so we wont see it, sadly.
I just did some research and no, not the first, i think the first was a Tiger but, i know the Nashorn kill was somewhere near Cologne.
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Mickey Mouse Gasmask?
(http://www.pinktentacle.com/images/mickey_mouse_mask.jpg)
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Mickey Mouse Gasmask?
I would have said the same... although the T-34 model, does not mean it's in-game, just a model... hmm... mickey mouse first appeared in Steam Boat Fatty, it could be the return of that tug-boat, lol
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Awww:D
New front???, noo. Everyone know next theatre will be easter front but it is too early:D
My guess:
GMC truck
105 Howitzer
Jagd-Something ;D
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People should learn to read. ::)
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Mickey Mouse was used as a password for the invasion of Normandy, so I think we'll see some landing map.
Edit. I found also this:
This ACE Matador artillery tractor has been painted in the 1944 British Army vehicle camouflage pattern popularly known as 'Mickey Mouse' pattern, because of the distinctive black mouse ears painted on or sprayed over the khaki drab base colour. If you look closely, you can see the top of Mickey's head immediately above the rear wheel. The pattern was used on many vehicles participating in the Normandy invasion and the subsequent campaigns in France, Belgium and the Netherlands.
(http://www.miniatures.de/vehicles/airfix-01314-AEC-matador-truck.jpg)
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Hehe, just when it started to look like you guys would never guess it...
It's not a Matador though.
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sturmbocke ftw, i just read about the password mickey mouse but I lack the sherlock holmes instinct for detection, I think you're right about the cammo paint ... ooo could it be juno beach!
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Hehe, just when it started to look like you guys would never guess it...
It's not a Matador though.
just say it . its an hellcat
because if it aint.........
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Hehe, just when it started to look like you guys would never guess it...
It's not a Matador though.
Cheers! Now we just need the correct vehicle.. Keep the guesses coming guys.
just say it . its an hellcat
Hellcat with Mickey Mouse camouflage? :o
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Or maybe it's something way more obvious :P
Oh my, I really though you would get it sooner ;)
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I prefer to wait 5 more minute, than trying to guess something it oblivious we will not found. :P
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And the Nashorn became the first tank to kill a M26 Pershing, so we wont see it, sadly.
I just did some research and no, not the first, i think the first was a Tiger but, i know the Nashorn kill was somewhere near Cologne.
It did?.. Not the Pershing that destroyed that Cologn Panther in the video, I hope - That will just make that vid even sadder
Well, that's one vehicle down - And it seems the greatest of the three if the update bears its name
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Pz II Luchs, German Captured Hotchkiss or even a R35!
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(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/091025/Crusader3AA.jpg)
DOUBLE U T F??? Sweeeeet
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CRUSADER III AA!!
Edit. Is the 20mm Flak movable like AT guns?
Nice update, thank you. :D
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Nice job, I love the Crusader ;D
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so is the AA gun towable or like moveable AT cannons are now...?
and which movie is it from?
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Allied Mobile AA! Pigs will fly!
Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
A new British truck! Bedford OYs will be replaced (presumably)!
Good stuff guys. Hope we see a new map next time.
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That...is awesome.
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Nice work guys :).
~Apple
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Allied Mobile AA! Pigs will fly!
Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/02/SPRFlak38.jpg/600px-SPRFlak38.jpg
pretty sure that's not it...
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Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
I thought first it was from Band of Brothers, but now I am not sure if it really was on it.
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Allied Mobile AA! Pigs will fly!
Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/02/SPRFlak38.jpg/600px-SPRFlak38.jpg
pretty sure that's not it...
I am pretty sure it is. Sans the Shield my friend.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-301-1953-24%2C_Seine-et-Oise%2C_Soldaten_mit_Flak-Gesch%C3%BCtz.jpg)
Oh yeah.
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Allied Mobile AA! Pigs will fly!
Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/02/SPRFlak38.jpg/600px-SPRFlak38.jpg
pretty sure that's not it...
They look exactly the same, if you remove the shield. Presumably it was far more realistic to have the shield in place than SPR's rambo 'no shield so we can see the Germans firing it' choice.
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nifty ;D
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Allied Mobile AA! Pigs will fly!
Saving Private Ryan's mobile flak piece! Spawns will be raped!
Oh my god, a solid minute of laughing after reading that. +1 imaginary rep.
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I don't know, Meadow... The real picture also has no shield... Not sure its American propaganda this time...
Love this update... Truck is surely something special - Bruts are really getting love in FH2
The mobile AA... wow - Ok, whoever was planning on creating an SPR map can do so now... its almost all in
Nice to hear there's going to be a small patch... hopefully created in shorter time thna 2.1 or 2.15 cuz that timing bites
Will the AA gn be pushed or towed? Or both? And if pushed how does it work with legs not moving for player models using vehlcles? cuz I figured that to be the mobile AT gun issue?
BTW, that middle crank that gets attached looks kinda large compared to the 2 other references... Sure a human will fit behind all that?
Lovely update, devs.. just lovely
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True, the real picture has no shield. But the FH2 one is still the same weapon as that seen in SPR - just with a shield.
Glad you liked it Azreal ;)
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nice, I want to see them in game soon ;)
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Sweet, the Bedford QL is damn ugly (the real thing that is, not the model ;) ).
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And the now for the weather report:
The sky above Totalize remains sunny and clear of all planes. Thanks to a low pressure AA front moving in from the north.
I say bring it FW190 !! ;D
Great update guys.
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Are we gonna see a random mix of trucks on every map? And will that be the only skin for the Bedford? Little things like that can add a lot of flavor to the visuals.
Great update.
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so will both Self-propelled AA guns have limited ammo?
Will they also have AP ammo aswel?(they existed, and where issued in small numbers)
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one man model army..
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And the now for the weather report:
The sky above Totalize remains sunny and clear of all planes. Thanks to a low pressure AA front moving in from the south.
I say bring it FW190 !! ;D
Great update guys.
Wouldn't it be from the north since that's where the Canadian main is?
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Its a maus
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I love AA, no matter what kind.
(http://s.bebo.com/app-image/6774214277/6763021148/PROFILE/i.idlestudios.com/img/q/u/08/03/23/Emo.jpg)
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Nice to see a news update again.
that Crusader tank looks awesome, I've never seen it before
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I like the wheeled Flak 38, looks very nice.
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Sweet towable aa????
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Sweet towable aa????
If only bodies were destroyable ;) I loved that scene in SPR with the paratroopers checking the Tiger and out of nowhere comes 20mm fire blowing their bodies to pieces.
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Awesome Update:-)
Im almost sure the only way to move the Flak gun is the same way you curently can move som off the ingame AT guns like Paks / 6 Pounders.
Offcause i can be wrong. even as Betatesters we doo get suprised alot;-) about the magic that happens.
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Wehey!! Another update! Goodjob Darren01!
Things are looking good!!
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Jeah, i realy like the Bedford Truck, looks great. Is he switched to all the britsh Maps in the Patch?
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Awesome Update:-)
Im almost sure the only way to move the Flak gun is the same way you curently can move som off the ingame AT guns like Paks / 6 Pounders.
Offcause i can be wrong. even as Betatesters we doo get suprised alot;-) about the magic that happens.
Yer, but that will just look wierd... cuz those 3guys in SPR seemed to have a hard time pushing the dang thing and they were standing... Kneeling and sliding will just feel wrong on so many levels... It might be time conisder a new animation for this one... Or for that matter for most AT guns (Same animation) -
And I think the leg this should be permissible - yuo move your legs when you swivel a trck mounted mg and that's not half as important as hauling an AT or AA... Unlike Fh1, I don't think the model needs to be in constant motion whether or not the gun is moving
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And I think the leg this should be permissible - yuo move your legs when you swivel a trck mounted mg and that's not half as important as hauling an AT or AA... Unlike Fh1, I don't think the model needs to be in constant motion whether or not the gun is moving
Sure, but this is a standard BF2 feature of the Soldier Models. Iirc you would have to redo the entire Playermodel to animate that bit and I'm not sure that is even possible or even feasible.
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Why do you need to redo the entire model... Isn't it just one animation for each of the models.. ie. Brithsh, Canadian American and German - Doubt the Italians will ever need animation unless you consider AT guns
ie. a model holdng the gun in a leaned position which moves its legs when in motion? Maybe, I'm not seeing the full picture
But with that huge thing at the back that isn't absolutely neccesary (Since the one in the refs dont have it), I'm begining to believe or WANT to beleive that its tow-able...
devs? BTs? Anyone?
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Why do you need to redo the entire model... Isn't it just one animation for each of the models.. ie. Brithsh, Canadian American and German - Doubt the Italians will ever need animation unless you consider AT guns
ie. a model holdng the gun in a leaned position which moves its legs when in motion? Maybe, I'm not seeing the full picture
But with that huge thing at the back that isn't absolutely neccesary (Since the one in the refs dont have it), I'm begining to believe or WANT to beleive that its tow-able...
devs? BTs? Anyone?
lalalala it is towable...not listening to you
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lalalala it is towable...not listening to you
Dude, don't play with my emotions like that - cuz if this is true, I'd say, roll-over lafette tripod... Major change in FH2 gameplay.... I DID hear once upon a time that it was a system that once existed in Beta tests before 2.0 came out.. Or maybe I heard wrong
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Nice looking stuff.
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Nice update, I especially like the crusader tank! :)
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And the now for the weather report:
The sky above Totalize remains sunny and clear of all planes. Thanks to a low pressure AA front moving in from the south.
I say bring it FW190 !! ;D
Great update guys.
Wouldn't it be from the north since that's where the Canadian main is?
Fixed ;D
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Nice update :)
Did anyone notice that there's a Ste Mere Eglise map set on dev's server? Paratroopers, maybe we will see new skins for them soon ;)
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Lies, all lies!
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Nice update :)
Did anyone notice that there's a Ste Mere Eglise map set on dev's server? Paratroopers, maybe we will see new skins for them soon ;)
Like the the st-lo breakthrough I saw yesterday (it's why I have make the topic about napalm :P)
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Nice update :)
Did anyone notice that there's a Ste Mere Eglise map set on dev's server? Paratroopers, maybe we will see new skins for them soon ;)
oh I'm sorry. Now I must call in the black helicopters on you. And such a shame, cause we liked you so much.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hUqhilguoPs/R5olbRJvy4I/AAAAAAAAB2M/c0A8h4CK_9Q/s400/VRWCBlackHelicopters.jpg)
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You guys work in shifts when you lurk the server or is it just a full-time job? ;D
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Nice update :)
Did anyone notice that there's a Ste Mere Eglise map set on dev's server? Paratroopers, maybe we will see new skins for them soon ;)
oh I'm sorry. Now I must call in the black helicopters on you. And such a shame, cause we liked you so much.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hUqhilguoPs/R5olbRJvy4I/AAAAAAAAB2M/c0A8h4CK_9Q/s400/VRWCBlackHelicopters.jpg)
They came and got me once :'(.
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shhh, its ok you don't need to remember what happened there :o
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So...pretty. Now I'm curious how that Flak is gonna get moved around...
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Mmm...new toys...*drooool*
So...pretty. Now I'm curious how that Flak is gonna get moved around...
Likewise...will it need more than one man to move it?
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Well it weights around 7 tons, so I imagine that a moveable Flak 18 will need a vehicle to move it or just a 2 men crew.
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I reckon vehicle. Two men moving 7 tons is stretching reality somewhat.
If it is a vehicle, I'll be interested to see how that's implemented...e.g. how will the vehicle connect to/disconnect from the trailer.
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Guys it weight only 450Kg and its on wheels 2 people (or even one) can move it without any problems!
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If we wanted to, we could hide it.
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Yeah, you're right...*slaps forehead*
Now that I think about it, the 6 pounder and the PAK would be heavier...
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Yeah, you're right...*slaps forehead*
Now that I think about it, the 6 pounder and the PAK would be heavier...
Yep...I move the Pak36 in my unit with 3-4 people, but we've done it with 2...its heavy, it sucks, but it can be done with 2.
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Guys it weight only 450Kg and its on wheels 2 people (or even one) can move it without any problems!
The Flak 18 with the carriege weighted around 7 tons=7000 kg; without the carriege 5800 kg. A single person cant move 7 tons, not even 2 person team. We need a transport vehicle to be able to move this; the Sdkfz 251 is the perfect transport armored vehicle or a Opel Blitz truck
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Guys it weight only 450Kg and its on wheels 2 people (or even one) can move it without any problems!
The Flak 18 with the carriege weighted around 7 tons=7000 kg; without the carriege 5800 kg. A single person cant move 7 tons, not even 2 person team. We need a transport vehicle to be able to move this; the Sdkfz 251 is the perfect transport armored vehicle or a Opel Blitz truck
Whose talking anything about moving a Flak 18?
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Guys it weight only 450Kg and its on wheels 2 people (or even one) can move it without any problems!
The Flak 18 with the carriege weighted around 7 tons=7000 kg; without the carriege 5800 kg. A single person cant move 7 tons, not even 2 person team. We need a transport vehicle to be able to move this; the Sdkfz 251 is the perfect transport armored vehicle or a Opel Blitz truck
M8 the Flak we are ALL talking about is the Flak38 shown in this news!
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Screw this I'm gonna watch SPR tonight and repeat the same FlaK38 scene over and over
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In hindsigth SPR is such a crappy movie. The figths when compared to BoB are just pathetic imo.
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Dude, SPR is amazing. When it comes to the action SPR is 12 out of 10. Just watch the beginning of the finale. Spielberg knows his shit. But if it's realistic? Hell no and I don't care. One of the best action flicks ever.
End of Off-topic, we can continue this in the Review the latest movie-thread instead.
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End of Off-topic, we can continue this in the Review the latest movie-thread instead.
You are right. :) Let's grab a beer over there.
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I believe i noticed a Port en Bessin map on the Dev's server aswell. :D
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Correct, let's stop discussing about shitty movies!
I somehow fear that the first time someone will drive towards me in that mickey mouse truck I will start laughing instead of shooting..
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Well, I've always thought that SPR is a very good FILM and good for entertainment value, but us who are used to correctness may have difficulties watching it because we see inaccuracies in it and might not be able to enjoy it as intended. At least I like the movie as it is, I always liked Hanks for example, but when Im in a mood of accuracy... I can hardly enjoy it. But this goes to other movies aswell.
Given thought, sometimes you just cant have things such as correct tanks and equipment due to availability and budget reasons... but its weird how some movies which have so wrong equipment, such as Patton, gets past my "accuracy nazi" radar with blind colours.
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Well, I've always thought that SPR is a very good FILM and good for entertainment value, but us who are used to correctness may have difficulties watching it because we see inaccuracies in it and might not be able to enjoy it as intended. At least I like the movie as it is, I always liked Hanks for example, but when Im in a mood of accuracy... I can hardly enjoy it. But this goes to other movies aswell.
Given thought, sometimes you just cant have things such as correct tanks and equipment due to availability and budget reasons... but its weird how some movies which have so wrong equipment, such as Patton, gets past my "accuracy nazi" radar with blind colours.
Yer had that issue too with Patton... couldn't help myself.. it was So-O wrong... Especally to such an epic soundtrack as the German march... I wonder how kelly's heroes which seemed less important as a movie actually got... were those real Tigers?
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No they were T-34's customized to look like Tigers in Kelly's Heroes.
Well what I meant with Patton is that I can watch it without any sort of problem of having the inaccuracies annoying me... but when I watch for like SPR, I sometimes get so annoyed and distracted when I just keep pointing inaccuracies to myself instead of just enjoying the movie itself. And some films I cant enjoy at all since they are so wrong from the start to end.
But enough movie talk, lets continue in movie thread at off-topic section.
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No they were T-34's customized to look like Tigers in Kelly's Heroes.
Well what I meant with Patton is that I can watch it without any sort of problem of having the inaccuracies annoying me... but when I watch for like SPR, I sometimes get so annoyed and distracted when I just keep pointing inaccuracies to myself instead of just enjoying the movie itself. And some films I cant enjoy at all since they are so wrong from the start to end.
But enough movie talk, lets continue in movie thread at off-topic section.
I get your point - But for me its rather SPR I can enjoy completely with all its innacuracies and improbables, while movies like Patton.. well, the action scenes did almost nothing for me athough they were elaborate because of the incorrect vehicles. SPR, inspite of all its innacurracies had a pretty realistic feel to it, that was lost in most war movies which didn't let you feel the grit of it all and metallic cruelty of being hit by a lead-spewing firearm or cannon
I dunno, not an argument really since its oppinion differences, but I feel poeple are too harsh to SPR (not you in the case, no), where as it is a pretty realistic attempt at capturing a feel of war that certainly revived alot in games and movies of the same genre thereafter
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Things that bug me in many war films are things like the t34 "Tigers". But I just got to live with it i guess.. :-\
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One of the reasons i hate the film: The Battle of the Bulge.
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You hate the Battle of the Bulge because it has T-34 Tigers? Tanks used in BotB are M47 Pattons and M24 Chaffee's. Back in those days, nobody cared. Check out all old war movies.
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You hate the Battle of the Bulge because it has T-34 Tigers? Tanks used in BotB are M47 Pattons and M24 Chaffee's. Back in those days, nobody cared. Check out all old war movies.
You misunderstand me, or I didn't make myself clear. Just the lack of the real tanks. I understand that they are very hard to get your hands on but when they don't even apear to make an effort to mock them up. Like SPR, obviously they wouldn't have the genuine tigers to use, they made the effort to mock up some tigers. Battle of the Bulge just stuck some post war tanks in a baron desert and said.. "err Yeah. The ardennes"
I don't hate the battle of the bulge because of the tanks alone. But the minimun effort. Shot in the middle of the desert. Incorrect tanks. Farfetched storyline. Huge mountains in the background. Scenes where people are seen wearing shorts. etc etc etc.
BUT ANYWAY. Back on topic?
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Screw this I'm gonna watch SPR tonight and repeat the same FlaK38 scene over and over
I would love the rep system back to grant you a point, Sir, and punish all these talibans with a crapload of negative points. SPR is one of the best films in history, a stream of fresh air for those who love classics and if you don't enjoy it because the panzerschreck lacks a bolt in the side you have issues
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Screw this I'm gonna watch SPR tonight and repeat the same FlaK38 scene over and over
I would love the rep system back to grant you a point, Sir, and punish all these talibans with a crapload of negative points. SPR is one of the best films in history, a stream of fresh air for those who love classics and if you don't enjoy it because the panzerschreck lacks a bolt in the side you have issues
I don't enjoy it because it's unrealistic. I would have liked it more if the people weren't fictional (like BoB).
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*sigh*
I thougt you wanted to stop this silly discussion. ::)
To drop some more coal into the fire:
SPR is my favorite war movie of all time.
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It's not just inaccuracies which hurt the film, but it simply has the dumbest plot conceived. Send 6-7 men deep into enemy lines to rescue some schmuck since his brothers died. In real life horrible things like this happened (Sullivan brothers), but I find it really hard to conceive the military sending a glorified suicide mission like in SPR. There were so many real life stories that the film could have drawn from too. It wasn't necessary to resort to some sappy unbelievable story.
I also have a slight issue with the film since idiots tend to think that it is 100% accurate and will cite it as if it was a textbook.
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Just for the hell of mentioning it, I think my favorite war film is a Bridge too Far. They don't make them like they used to. :(
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And I still hate it, and everyone who rants about people who whine about it not portraying military/technical/feministic history/eucaryot facts correct is dropping hot stones in boiling water because that's not my problem.
But I don't wanna work out the details on this one, just wanted to repeat that it ***** in my opinion. Who cares, enough decent british, french and other nice war movies out there.
Anyway, some spezi give me a headup: How effective are those 20mm AA guns on the Crusader 3 AA compared to the axis 20mm AA?
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Just for the hell of mentioning it, I think my favorite war film is a Bridge too Far. They don't make them like they used to. :(
Speaking of ABTF, what tanks are they using in that move? The Shermans aren't that bad but what the hell are zee germans using?
The movie is epic though, much thanks to Sir Anthony Hopkins and Michael Caine.
OnT: Great update as always guys!
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I can see it now .
Hay every one im new here but have been playing FH and FH2 for some while now.
I just wanted to say that the 20mm flak 38 is way to over powered.
I SICK if getting raped while climbing on a tiger tanks! ???
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Just for the hell of mentioning it, I think my favorite war film is a Bridge too Far. They don't make them like they used to. :(
Speaking of ABTF, what tanks are they using in that move? The Shermans aren't that bad but what the hell are zee germans using?
The movie is epic though, much thanks to Sir Anthony Hopkins and Michael Caine.
OnT: Great update as always guys!
Shermans in A Bridge Too Far aren't that bad indeed. Lack of any other Allied tanks is disappointing and the fact that most of them are those post-war versions (I remember seeing some 17 pounder barrels too) which saw action in Korea.. The Germans are using the standard American tank, also M47 Patton I believe. They did try to convert it a bit though, skirts on the top and on the side to make it look like a Panther. Though the fact that they painted it grey ruins alot of the hard work.
I can see it now .
Hay every one im new here but have been playing FH and FH2 for some while now.
I just wanted to say that the 20mm flak 38 is way to over powered.
I SICK if getting raped while climbing on a tiger tanks! ???
Bwhahahaha, best joke of this week Flyboy ;D 20mm FlaK overpowered, hahaha! It's so freaking nerfed you can't hit anything with it, hahahaahahha ;D
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2.0cm L55* and 2.0cm L112** HE are underpowered becuase their explosion radii are half what they should be according to the key at the top of vehicleguns.tweak. It says:
rem HE shell weight, use ID which has the upper limit, e.g. for a 5kg shell use 10kg ID
rem HE Shell radius=2xdiameter(cm)
rem HE shell expl damage= weight(kg)x100
rem HE shell expl force = diameter(cm)
thus meaning the 2.0cm guns should have radii of 4. They actually have only 2. That is the only thing wrong with them.
*Pzkpfw II, L6/40***, sdkfz 222.
**Flak 38, Flakveirling 38, Wirblewind.
***Needs some HE plz ;)
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Just for the hell of mentioning it, I think my favorite war film is a Bridge too Far. They don't make them like they used to. :(
Speaking of ABTF, what tanks are they using in that move? The Shermans aren't that bad but what the hell are zee germans using?
The movie is epic though, much thanks to Sir Anthony Hopkins and Michael Caine.
OnT: Great update as always guys!
Shermans in A Bridge Too Far aren't that bad indeed. Lack of any other Allied tanks is disappointing and the fact that most of them are those post-war versions (I remember seeing some 17 pounder barrels too) which saw action in Korea.. The Germans are using the standard American tank, also M47 Patton I believe. They did try to convert it a bit though, skirts on the top and on the side to make it look like a Panther. Though the fact that they painted it grey ruins alot of the hard work.
I can see it now .
Hay every one im new here but have been playing FH and FH2 for some while now.
I just wanted to say that the 20mm flak 38 is way to over powered.
I SICK if getting raped while climbing on a tiger tanks! ???
Bwhahahaha, best joke of this week Flyboy ;D 20mm FlaK overpowered, hahaha! It's so freaking nerfed you can't hit anything with it, hahahaahahha ;D
I believe the German 'tigers' in Bridge Too Far are in fact Dutch Army Leopard 1s. The Germans use Pattons in Battle of the Bulge.
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Guys, no matter how much you don't wanna like SPR
It's the best example of how good Spielberg is at what he does
Just look at the script, six guys going out on a dangerous mission to save one guy in a big war. Still Spielberg turned this script into pure action gold and one big flirt with old war Hollywood war movies like Where Eagles dare ("Broadsword calling Danny Boy!" a call sign used in both films).
To all you nay-sayers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suY5Y1BKWU
Watch that scene on a big screen with good sound. Few movies has come close to that tension and intense action.
That's all for me.
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You could be very right with that Meadow.. It's been a while since I've seen it.
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Guys, no matter how much you don't wanna like SPR
It's the best example of how good Spielberg is at what he does
Just look at the script, six guys going out on a dangerous mission to save one guy in a big war. Still Spielberg turned this script into pure action gold and one big flirt with old war Hollywood war movies like Where Eagles dare ("Broadsword calling Danny Boy!" a call sign used in both films).
To all you nay-sayers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suY5Y1BKWU
Watch that scene on a big screen with good sound. Few movies has come close to that tension and intense action.
That's all for me.
Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Almost any war film makes the germans like that.
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Nah, I don't think so.
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Well, here's a shocker for you: all humans are monsters in disguise. Herr Hitler and his cronies just knew how to flip the switches. That's the lesson to be learned.
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Well, here's a shocker for you: all humans are monsters in disguise. Herr Hitler and his cronies just knew how to flip the switches. That's the lesson to be learned.
Yeah like if Stalin didnt knew how to flip the switches ;)
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Well, here's a shocker for you: all humans are monsters in disguise. Herr Hitler and his cronies just knew how to flip the switches. That's the lesson to be learned.
congratulations. Your my signature :P
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Well, here's a shocker for you: all humans are monsters in disguise. Herr Hitler and his cronies just knew how to flip the switches. That's the lesson to be learned.
Yeah like if Stalin didnt knew how to flip the switches ;)
A lot of switches were flipping in his head.
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I don't think it's entirely fair to equate the German people of the Second World War as monsters, even if you concede that all humans could be. Gives the impression that they all ran around killing Jews and Gypsies, not just a select few.
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I agree.
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Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
Well, here's a shocker for you: all humans are monsters in disguise. Herr Hitler and his cronies just knew how to flip the switches. That's the lesson to be learned.
Banality of evil
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The duality of homo Sapiens and Homo demens.
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Guys, no matter how much you don't wanna like SPR
It's the best example of how good Spielberg is at what he does
Just look at the script, six guys going out on a dangerous mission to save one guy in a big war. Still Spielberg turned this script into pure action gold and one big flirt with old war Hollywood war movies like Where Eagles dare ("Broadsword calling Danny Boy!" a call sign used in both films).
To all you nay-sayers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suY5Y1BKWU
Watch that scene on a big screen with good sound. Few movies has come close to that tension and intense action.
That's all for me.
Still hate the fact that they convey the sense that the Germans were monsters.
How do they do that EXACTLY... they didn't show some emotional turmoil amongst the German ranks, pictures of the soldiers' wife or galfreinds perhaps - A few tears, maybe, huh? Come on, when it comes to Ww2, unless the movie is plotted to depict that fact, it really shouldn't bother with such things - And no, the Germans didn't have a perspective for fighting the war that history cares about - Sure, not all Germans are Nazis, but its not like movies depict them all as evil, merciless savages... Recall the scene with Upham crying like a little gurl? Recall what the German soldier did.... Nothing. He walked past and left... What else was there to do listen to Mellish and stop the fight?
You really can't please everyone it seems - even with a well thought out movie
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Holy moly, the last bunch of pages are all about movies this and movies that.. uhuh.
xD
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God! The members of this forum are like dried up wood. A single spark starts a huge blaze!
And thats why I love it here~
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God. You are all ill. I told you before and i will tell you again. This is a Game "WE" do for Fun. and if "WE" decide to do a FUN FICTIONAL MAP based on a Micky Mouse Cartoon then you have to live with it or leave. and when you not stop to Flame my News thread then i will get in Rage. You stubborn Kids have still not learned how it Works.
If our Soldiers Enter the battle with Pink lingerie that it is because we wanted it and not because its not historical Accurate.......
If you want to have a Discuission about WarMovies open a thread in the Off Topic section.
Posts regarding the SPR thing will be deleted from now. This shit in a News Thread throws bad light on the Mod. what would you think if you would come here for the very first time and must read this Bullshit.
oh and only to put some Fuel on the Fire. i know that some will bite there tongue now. Especially because they are not allowed to answer in this thread.
***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
and it will be a blast and all players will love it and will laugh about the whiners here which only Flame and never play.
oh....... what about some NaziZombies with Lazereyes and Mg42 on both arms?
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What toddel said.
To those who still wanna go off-topic with this= (http://media.80stees.com/images/products/A-Team_Mr_T_Shut_Up_Fool-T-link.jpg)
As to go back on topic= The crusader AA
What kinds of ammo will it carry?
Will it have limited ammo?Or unlimited?(The crusader AA MK3 had 600 rounds of ammo, Ammo capacity per gun was 2x 60 rounds)
Will the Wirbelwind(Please!) also follow this fashion?(The wirbelwind carried 3200 rounds of ammo, ammo capacity per gun was 4x20)
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***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
WAAHHHH! SPR IS TEH SUXOR! I WIL NEVA PLAY FH2 AGAIN!
:P
Oh, and SPR is teh suxor, but not because some of the equipment is "counts as", but because it's full of Spielbergyness. But as long as there is a fun map to play, I don't care what it is based on.
oh....... what about some NaziZombies with Lazereyes and Mg42 on both arms?
Gets my 110% support, as long as you have Nazi mecha to go with them ;D
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Seriously, all this just because someone started wondering aloud whether the FlaK would move like the PaKs do... though even without that certain map, just imagine the havoc it would create on the streets of Cagny. 8)
Yes, at first it will be the infantry rapage tool supreme, and there will be many a thread where people will whine how it's broken and overpowered and how FH2 is German-biased. Once players learn to counter it (ie. hug cover and flank and snipe the crew), we will start hearing how it's useless and underpowered how FH2 is British-biased. Happens with every new weapon, vehicle, concept, gameplay change...
(I can foresee the same phenomenon happening with Crusader AA. People will charge it into the teeth of German armour and AT guns, and because it tends to die horribly in that kind of environment, will whine again about the German bias. Once people start using it properly, we start hearing complaints from FW pilots how they can't fly straight and level wherever they please anymore and that breaks the balance somehow...)
The Mickey Mouse truck looks cool, but next it's really the time that the Amis would get a truck of their own.
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***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
WAAHHHH! SPR IS TEH SUXOR! I WIL NEVA PLAY FH2 AGAIN!
:P
should i help close your Account?
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Jagdtiger?
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Thanks Toddel that you told him about Ramelle Neuville, it's one of the most exciting things I heard on the other forums. Now I can share my joy! :)
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and it will be a blast and all players will love it
You sound like a drill Sgt. here. You will play this map and you will like it!!! You will enjoy it and it will enjoy you!!! Do you understand me?! ;D
P.S. jk
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and it will be a blast and all players will love it
You sound like a drill Sgt. here. You will play this map and you will like it!!! You will enjoy it and it will enjoy you!!! Do you understand me?!
SIR, YES SIR!
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and i will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furios anger
THOSE who attempt, to hate and Reject Ramelle Neuville!
and you will know my name is the LORD
When i Rain my 20MM flak shells upon thee!
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IMHO biggest bullshit since Operation Aberdeen.
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I agree 100% with flippy (except that I like aberdeen).
Never liked ramelle neuville one bit, never understood why it was even played.
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You lost all your respect now..
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You lost all your respect now..
Meh, i've probably been losing it gradually for some time anyway :)
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IMHO biggest bullshit since Operation Aberdeen.
Lord yes.
The strange thing for me is that the mod is pretty well set as far as what I was looking forward to. The North Africa campaign was done really well. Now with Normandy I can play as (or against) the Americans and Canadians. Plus it has my favorite piece of armor in the war, the Panther. Once they add Market Garden in some way, I'm set. An Arnhem map would be incredible given what I've seen so far.
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Toddel, my guess for the reason people react so violently to Ramelle Neuville being suggested is that in the past, people like Flippy (IIRC, sorry Flippy if this isn't you) who 'ought to know' have categorically said it would NOT appear in FH2 because it's fictional. My guess is that made people quickly grow tired of people suggesting something that 'everyone knew' would never be in the mod.
For the record, I'm easy on the subject. I enjoyed the map in FH1 (when the Germans actually moved into the town with their tanks rather than spawncamped) but would be equally happy with a map that was like it but was just as fun, without it being a remake.
One question - as it's a remake, will it be Ramelle Neuneuville? ;)
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Meadow, you hit them everyday! Neuneuville, haha. Indeed, without tank camping and just fighting for bridge was the nice part of Ramelle Neuville, because the camping made everyone ragequit they never got to see the good parts.
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If our Soldiers Enter the battle with Pink lingerie...
Excelent idea, I wrote it down in my to-do list
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Well, since the 'I'ma hate on popular movies' train seems to have come to halt, I guess it's safe to post here.
I'm seriously looking forward to using the Crusader AA. Not for its intended use, naturally, but planting it by the windmill and using those twin 20mm harbingers of death on the Nebelwerfer across the river. ;D
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What's so bad about Ramelle Neuville? Rename it Ste mere Eglise or something and it's not so ahistoric afterall.
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The Crusader AA is still weak, it only have two barrels, the Wirbelwind have 4... this is still German biased *****RUNS for cover*****
Anyway, I would LOLed if the Flak 38 is only added just to create the SPR scenario. This makes it less l33t because somehow it gives the impression of being introduced by the cheaply popular movie titles. Some people just think that it is too sissy to take reference from popular movies. ;D j/k
Well, geez guys, you take movies that seriously? On a more serious note: Theta's question. I hope it will have unlimited ammo. As for FH2 flyboys, ammo trucks are always very easy prey. And it really kills the AA function of this vehicle.
And as for the Mickey Mouse Bedford Truck: great news for the variety. I feel that this has been one of the strong points of FH: support vehicles. Some people feel it is too pointless to be added in action-packed game such as FH. Even the slow-paced realistic PR doesn't have any. But i like it... trucks, support vehicles, tractor, are the real workhorse of every battle, there just can't be a battle without them. I commend you guys for adding this kind of stuff into the mod, gives the game a bit more 'strategical' feeling.
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The Crusader AA is still weak, it only have two barrels, the Wirbelwind have 4... this is still German biased *****RUNS for cover*****
Crusader AA: Pros: 120 round mags, driver can't be shot, fast moving. Cons: 900rpm, 600 round total (1+4 reloads).
Wirblewind: Pros: 1200rpm, 3200 rounds total (1+39 reloads). Cons: 72* round mags, driver vulnerable to strafing, large target.
*80 in real life, but 72 in the mod (40+32) to allow 1200rpm.
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The Crusader AA is still weak, it only have two barrels, the Wirbelwind have 4... this is still German biased *****RUNS for cover*****
Crusader AA: Pros: 120 round mags, driver can't be shot, fast moving. Cons: 900rpm, 600 round total.
Wirblewind: Pros: 1200rpm, 3200 rounds total. Cons: 72 round mags, driver vulnerable to strafing, large target.
I was about to write that. Nice job mate
Both AA vehicle's should have limited ammo. It is enough, to make them last trough half the game, so resupplieng wont be a problem aswel. Both will operate close to the main most of the time, so getting back their and resupply issent really much asked, now is it?
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Yep, just wiki'ed both vehicles for comparison. Just teasing the German-bias whiners. :P
Add to that, the Wirbelwind have more armor protection, the Cruz body can even be penetrated by anti-tank rifles. But in the late war rocket launchers of both sides will surely do equally efficient work on both vehicles.
Actually, i like the Crusader, since it is fast and agile. A bit OOT: Actually i'm thinking it might be a better idea to upgun them and use them as the "earlier concept" of fast cruiser tanks intended for combating other tanks. The armour might be weak but it is a trade off IMO.
I read that the Cruz AA suffered from poor field of vision, while the Wirbelwind have to be open top since the cannons generated a lot of fumes and smokes, not really fov issue.
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Yep, just wiki'ed both vehicles for comparison. Just teasing the German-bias whiners. :P
Add to that, the Wirbelwind have more armor protection, the Cruz body can even be penetrated by anti-tank rifles. But in the late war rocket launchers of both sides will surely do equally efficient work on both vehicles.
Actually, i like the Crusader, since it is fast and agile. A bit OOT: Actually i'm thinking it might be a better idea to upgun them and use them as the "earlier concept" of fast cruiser tanks intended for combating other tanks. The armour might be weak but it is a trade off IMO.
I read that the Cruz AA suffered from poor field of vision, while the Wirbelwind have to be open top since the cannons generated a lot of fumes and smokes, not really fov issue.
At the map, the armor doesnt matter. all AT guns of All sides can penetrate everything of both vehicles
The Wirbelwind had also one thing that issent implented in FH2= Turret traverse. Yes. it was SLOW. It had trouble keeping up with the ever faster Allied Fighter-bombers. Yet FH2 Wirbelwinds turret traverse is as fast as lighting.
also the turret of the wirbelwind had only 11MM of armor. Everything higher then a 7.62MM round could pierce trough it
The crusader AA versions dint saw much planes, but when they did, they where effective though.
Both the AAsader and Wirbelwind, would have been excellent weapons if they where developed and used earlier in the war.
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The Wirbelwind had also one thing that issent implented in FH2= Turret traverse. Yes. it was SLOW. It had trouble keeping up with the ever faster Allied Fighter-bombers. Yet FH2 Wirbelwinds turret traverse is as fast as lighting.
also the turret of the wirbelwind had only 11MM of armor. Everything higher then a 7.62MM round could pierce trough it
Yeah, and by the rules of physics as I have learned them, it has to rotate its turret slower the further the passing plane is away. This could in reality be a fair distance, however, due to scaled down maps and viewing distances ingame, planes almost always travel quite close by the player, so it's only logical that its turret turns faster than IRL.
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You guys have a Serious problem.
I just made the Crusader because the base was allmost there and i want a cheap Model. then i looked which map could take it and as i found out that is was very common i just did it. i did not even think 1 sec about its firepower. you put much more into this as we do. its only another model. We never thnk about such stuff before we make a model. really in my eyes you are just poor guys. Lean back and just play the damn game ::)
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No offense Toddel but your going pretty hard on people doing what people on forums do.
These forums were always like this and will never change... cause their forums.
And to say no thought goes into what goes on each map seems, well wrong IMO cause I know you guys plan out what works.
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Maybe he is just overemphasizing his points. It is more like we are discussing a bit too far from what was originally a simplistic game of shootin' n' ridin'. They just add new effects, physics, and stuffs for us to play with. That's just basically it.
But to make it more fun, we imagine things. And i love the discussion around here, sometimes it goes crazy, sometimes just completely stupid. But as i know it, many won't have it any other way.
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This behavier force us to work accurate. that means much more work only for whiners.( which will still find anything to whine ). 90% of the players would not care a shit about the firerate of a crusader AA gun compared to a Vierling.
We lose Devs all over the time because they are tired of being forced in this small Shirt. This bug me. Really this is for Fun and you people force us to take it as a Job. Best Example are the German Soldier models. God we release the BEST Locking Player models of any Game out in this small World and some ultra Hardcore smartass starts to point out the the color on his Monitor looks not like his Replica jacket in the cabinet next to him. This is tiring me and many other Devs. If you could imagine how i feel when i must read this you could be sure that this Forum is still up and running.
And about the thing that this forum was so since ever. Yes true. This bullshit is sadly here for ever. I hoped we could get rid of this with starting a new Forum. I am fine if people want to discuiss about different weapons or tanks. but why the hell it must allways end in such a horrible Thread.
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ah, definitely see your point now, and it makes complete sense.
The good thing for you though is in the end this is your guys mod. People can complain and whine over the littlest shit but in the end they don't get themselves anywhere, because there opinion has no bearing on what actually is important to YOU, the developers on these forums. This being a realism mod makes this situation even worse in that people expect you guys to be perfect or do things by the book, when in the end this mod should be treated no different from any BF2 mod.
What I can suggest is to try take it all in a grain of salt, ignore all the bullshit that always comes with a realism mod forum and realize that the only reason these people are even here is because they enjoy playing your hobby so much. And I can assure you that 99% of people here would agree that we have the utmost respect for you guys cause FH2 is one of the best games out there at the moment, mod or not. I'm coming off as a kiss-ass but why else would we be here.
Now all we need is some people like in the real old .5-.6 days who scared all but the hardcore forum members away by being (clever as hell) douchebags to pretty much everyone. Those are the days I miss. I'm almost sad I can't remember the names of them.
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This behavier force us to work accurate. that means much more work only for whiners.( which will still find anything to whine ). 90% of the players would not care a shit about the firerate of a crusader AA gun compared to a Vierling.
We lose Devs all over the time because they are tired of being forced in this small Shirt. This bug me. Really this is for Fun and you people force us to take it as a Job. Best Example are the German Soldier models. God we release the BEST Locking Player models of any Game out in this small World and some ultra Hardcore smartass starts to point out the the color on his Monitor looks not like his Replica jacket in the cabinet next to him. This is tiring me and many other Devs. If you could imagine how i feel when i must read this you could be sure that this Forum is still up and running.
And about the thing that this forum was so since ever. Yes true. This bullshit is sadly here for ever. I hoped we could get rid of this with starting a new Forum. I am fine if people want to discuiss about different weapons or tanks. but why the hell it must allways end in such a horrible Thread.
Wow bitter much there Toddell? Personally I've always LOVED how painstakingly historically accurate everything is in FH and FH2. I would hope that you guys strive to make everything as close to reality as possible just because that's what you've always been about -- not because a bunch of people on a forum say this and that.
I'm just kind of surprised to hear this from a dev of a game that's seemingly so dedicated to "getting it right," even when hardly anyone recognizes the difference. THAT is what FH has always been about for me -- the details, even when I don't notice them. I know that I can show this mod to any of my scrutinizing WWII buff friends and they'll be just as gung ho over it as those who don't notice any of that stuff.
These forums are wonderful in how dedicated they are to the game. We'll follow you guys through thick and thin. Thank god we aren't just a typical casual gaming crowd that wouldn't know an AK-47 from an M16!
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This behavier force us to work accurate. that means much more work only for whiners.( which will still find anything to whine ). 90% of the players would not care a shit about the firerate of a crusader AA gun compared to a Vierling.
We lose Devs all over the time because they are tired of being forced in this small Shirt. This bug me. Really this is for Fun and you people force us to take it as a Job. Best Example are the German Soldier models. God we release the BEST Locking Player models of any Game out in this small World and some ultra Hardcore smartass starts to point out the the color on his Monitor looks not like his Replica jacket in the cabinet next to him. This is tiring me and many other Devs. If you could imagine how i feel when i must read this you could be sure that this Forum is still up and running.
And about the thing that this forum was so since ever. Yes true. This bullshit is sadly here for ever. I hoped we could get rid of this with starting a new Forum. I am fine if people want to discuiss about different weapons or tanks. but why the hell it must allways end in such a horrible Thread.
You should have required people to give their home/post adress on registration. Then you could sent powder letters and ultimately antrax to get your revenge.
Oh shit, black helicopters and not even the FH dev ones, goverment ones! i'M NOT AT HOME!
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I don't think FH2 has ever been a realism mod. That department belongs to PR. FH2 has more or less been a historically accurate mod which I like. If you look at PR they have gone through 15'ish releases, have taken almost their entire US Army set from USI and IIRC FH2 has more equipment to play around with. Sure the Crusader AA might not the exact firing rate, but at least its there to drive and balance out the Wirbelwind.
And believe the things Toddel says as they're true. A lot of you guys don't have access to behind the scenes stuff, so its hard for you to understand what developing this mod is really like.
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I'm going to give a hell yeah to Neuville I cant wait!
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This behavier force us to work accurate. that means much more work only for whiners.( which will still find anything to whine ). 90% of the players would not care a shit about the firerate of a crusader AA gun compared to a Vierling.
We lose Devs all over the time because they are tired of being forced in this small Shirt. This bug me. Really this is for Fun and you people force us to take it as a Job. Best Example are the German Soldier models. God we release the BEST Locking Player models of any Game out in this small World and some ultra Hardcore smartass starts to point out the the color on his Monitor looks not like his Replica jacket in the cabinet next to him. This is tiring me and many other Devs. If you could imagine how i feel when i must read this you could be sure that this Forum is still up and running.
And about the thing that this forum was so since ever. Yes true. This bullshit is sadly here for ever. I hoped we could get rid of this with starting a new Forum. I am fine if people want to discuiss about different weapons or tanks. but why the hell it must allways end in such a horrible Thread.
Honestly, if it's the FH2 teams' mod...why should you, or anyone else on the team, give a shit what those ungrateful piss-and-moaners who bitch about the German uniform being a few shades too dark say? Its your mod, and you know what it's meant to be. If there are some people who are upset that minute details aren't spot on, screw them. They're the ones who are completely disillusioned. You shouldnt let them get to you.
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And here exactly graps my Point. We ARE the most historical accurate Game. and we want to stay that. Its just annoying to read all those MiniExperts comments. If i call you stupid idiot. How often can you hear it before you slap my face? ;D I take ever comment Personal and when i read bad comments i lost moral. so the rest of the Team lost Moral. Then they starts to think and wonder if everything is right. I know that 99% of our players are happy that the planes are more noob friendly . but the Hardcore fans whine.
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This behavier force us to work accurate. that means much more work only for whiners.( which will still find anything to whine ). 90% of the players would not care a shit about the firerate of a crusader AA gun compared to a Vierling.
We lose Devs all over the time because they are tired of being forced in this small Shirt. This bug me. Really this is for Fun and you people force us to take it as a Job. Best Example are the German Soldier models. God we release the BEST Locking Player models of any Game out in this small World and some ultra Hardcore smartass starts to point out the the color on his Monitor looks not like his Replica jacket in the cabinet next to him. This is tiring me and many other Devs. If you could imagine how i feel when i must read this you could be sure that this Forum is still up and running.
And about the thing that this forum was so since ever. Yes true. This bullshit is sadly here for ever. I hoped we could get rid of this with starting a new Forum. I am fine if people want to discuiss about different weapons or tanks. but why the hell it must allways end in such a horrible Thread.
Honestly, if it's the FH2 teams' mod...why should you, or anyone else on the team, give a shit what those ungrateful piss-and-moaners who bitch about the German uniform being a few shades too dark say? Its your mod, and you know what it's meant to be. If there are some people who are upset that minute details aren't spot on, screw them. They're the ones who are completely disillusioned. You shouldnt let them get to you.
Basically this. People will always find something to bitch about, it is pretty much just human nature. It doesn't matter if it costs a million dollars or it is free.
Although one thing to take into consideration is that a people suggest things because they care. I'm sure sometimes the tone comes off as demanding, so it's best to probably ignore those folks. I personally don't care if everything is pixel accurate like some people do, and I will never have the encyclopedic knowledge others do. At the same time, I learn things from what they suggest, even it is completely inane. The comparison of the AA guns was a little interesting. Although as far as the game goes I could care less how you balance it.
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And here exactly graps my Point. We ARE the most historical accurate Game. and we want to stay that. Its just annoying to read all those MiniExperts comments. If i call you stupid idiot. How often can you hear it before you slap my face? ;D I take ever comment Personal and when i read bad comments i lost moral. so the rest of the Team lost Moral. Then they starts to think and wonder if everything is right. I know that 99% of our players are happy that the planes are more noob friendly . but the Hardcore fans whine.
Then take pride in that fact that your mod is among the most historical games out there (to say nothing in terms of mods). I mean, if you've gotten so many things down pat that the only thing those 'hardcore' fans can bitch about is an incorrect uniform shade or the like, then you must be doing something right. Bask in the ego-boosting good/informative remarks, and ignore the petty, trivial complaints that were clearly stated just for the sake of complaining. It's easy to tell what's a genuine complaint and what's the product of a bitter, unhappy individual who just likes to bitch. I find it easy to write off the latter. 8)
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And here exactly graps my Point. We ARE the most historical accurate Game. and we want to stay that. Its just annoying to read all those MiniExperts comments. If i call you stupid idiot. How often can you hear it before you slap my face? ;D I take ever comment Personal and when i read bad comments i lost moral. so the rest of the Team lost Moral. Then they starts to think and wonder if everything is right. I know that 99% of our players are happy that the planes are more noob friendly . but the Hardcore fans whine.
Then take pride in that fact that your mod is among the most historical games out there (to say nothing in terms of mods). I mean, if you've gotten so many things down pat that the only thing those 'hardcore' fans can bitch about is an incorrect uniform shade or the like, then you must be doing something right. Bask in the ego-boosting good/informative remarks, and ignore the petty, trivial complaints that were clearly stated just for the sake of complaining. It's easy to tell what's a genuine complaint and what's the product of a bitter, unhappy individual who just likes to bitch. I find it easy to write off the latter. 8)
The thing that makes this mod so good is that it combines Fun and gameplay with realism.
It issent uber realistic, nor is it uber arcade
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What's so bad about Ramelle Neuville? Rename it Ste mere Eglise or something and it's not so ahistoric afterall.
It's not a matter of historical accuracy. personally I don't really care about fictional maps, be as un-historic as you want to!
but I hated that map. always have, always will. not just the gameplay for my taste.
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People also hated Operation Goodwood in FH1, is that in any way like the one in FH2? No.
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People also hated Operation Goodwood in FH1, is that in any way like the one in FH2? No.
;)
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Toddel needs a hug.
/me huggles Toddel.
I never realized how much people can take the fun out of something. Well, I have, but didn't know it extended to you guys. I guess we all just worship all the FH2 Devs as Mod-Gods and occasionally expect too much from our patrons? Well, some people might expect to much.
/me huggles all the Devs.
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To be honest I have read way worse discussions here than this one about Ramelle-Neuville, but treat toddel right or I spank you to the Gates of Hell
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/me huggles Lobo.
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* My Gaydar is screaming like a stuck pig
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I can certainly understand your point, but when you're releasing your work to a big community like this you have to be prepared for criticism. If you want only praise, join Deviant Art and use your exceptional talents to draw Harry Potter Mangas, you will be missed.
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People also hated Operation Goodwood in FH1, is that in any way like the one in FH2? No.
I liked Goodwood in FH1.
Also, devs.. do whatever you like, we'll play it and at least try to love it! :)
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I can certainly understand your point, but when you're releasing your work to a big community like this you have to be prepared for criticism.
Yeah criticism is good and all that, but some peeps have not skills to give constructive criticism and also, it's all connected with other RL events: In bad days I have read even softer rants and I had beheaded some bats
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* My Gaydar is screaming like a stuck pig
Yea, well, your maps are all ugly. Every last one of them. The only saving grace is the loading music.
I don't mean that...
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* My Gaydar is screaming like a stuck pig
Yea, well, your maps are all ugly. Every last one of them. The only saving grace is the loading music.
I don't mean that...
Watch me care about your puny opinions.
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* My Gaydar is screaming like a stuck pig
Yea, well, your maps are all ugly. Every last one of them. The only saving grace is the loading music.
I don't mean that...
Watch me care about your puny opinions.
/me huggles Paasky.
I love all your maps, you know that.
EDIT: Hell...
/me huggles everyone.
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Am I gonna get squirrel flu now?
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Am I gonna get squirrel flu now?
Oh, no! Zombie!
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Yay! Now I have bird, squirrel and freshers flu. They will combine and make some wierd flu, which will save everyone from swine flu by killing them befor they get it.
Anyways, I have an internet cookie for Toddel here if you want it.
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I wasn't even part of this conversation "jumps and hides behind couch".
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Interesting stuff :)
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Anyways, I have an internet cookie for Toddel here if you want it.
One of those malicious browser cookies that tracks your banking passwords?
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Typical, don't visit the forum for a week and miss an awesome update.
Been hoping for the Crusader III AA Mk.II and Bedford QLD for a looooong time, they both look stunning. The pushable FlaK 38 should be fun, who needs an sMG34 or sMG42! lol
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***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
"And on the tenth page of the thread, Toddel saw the need for a Saving Private Ryanish FH2 map, and so He created the Ramelle-Neuville. And He saw that it was good, and so on the fourteenth page, Toddel rested."
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***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
"And on the tenth page of the thread, Toddel saw the need for a Saving Private Ryanish FH2 map, and so He created the Ramelle-Neuville. And He saw that it was good, and so on the fourteenth page, Toddel rested."
toddel never rests ...
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And on the fourteenth page, he left to continue working on another planet.
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So we are going to have the secret nazi moonbase? YES!
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Secret base - yes, on the moon - no. Want me to bring out the Legos?
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only if there's pirates involved. only then.
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The question is= How are we gonna get their?
Those Nutzi's have some pretty good defenses
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AA crusader and movable Flak. Nice. And I actually like the idea of getting a new version of Ramelle Neuville. As it was a great map when germs advanced with their tanks.
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so when will the next update be?
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when it's done
dont ask ...
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Probably no news for some weeks. Work is progressing very slowly, FH2 needs more modelers and skinners.
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You might can post a Application news update
anyways, good luck
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There is a "jungle stream" map on the testserver.
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There is a "jungle stream" map on the testserver.
It's a Eve of destruction 2 map
They use the test server of EOD2.
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FH2 is going to Pacific, hiiiiiii!
/screams
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I don't know whether to take this announcement as sarcasm/joke or to scream like a small child in joy
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FH2 is going to Pacific, hiiiiiii!
/screams
OK! i will take you by your Balls man!
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Maybe we now that flak 38 from the ww2 movie ''Saving pvt.Ryan''. Because it says: ''Up next is an item you may remember from a certain well-known Hollywood World War 2 movie; the 20mm Flak 38 on Sd.Ah 51 trailer. The trailer was made by Toddel, Rad and K96, the Flak38 by Jodonnel.''
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Its not from Saving private ryan. You just see a gun of the same class in a proment scene in the film. Doesn't mean we're going to have a SPR map.
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You are quite right. But this, on the other hand, most certainly means we are going to have a SPR map:
***** THERE WILL BE A Ramelle Neuville remake in FH2. *****
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OK, a SPR map, how about they put a Bridge over the River Kwai map in it when Pacific comes out and don't forget Kelly's Heroes, that final Battle scene was epic and definitely don't forget about the ......... ::)
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Kelly's Heroes
I just saw that movie first time and I didn't know should I cry or laugh for that tiger ;D
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Now we got 2 great lookin Commonwealth trucks! Just waiting for that CCKW!!!
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And dont forget about Alpenfestung...
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can't wait to crouch down against those sandbags on the bridge with a pistol in my hand and shoot at the tank ;D
What's so bad about Ramelle Neuville? Rename it Ste mere Eglise or something and it's not so ahistoric afterall.
lol no... that town and battle scenario looks totally different,. Ramelle is unique, hmmm there is a reason why it can't be renamed any other town either.... hmmm... *biting tongue* :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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can't wait to crouch down against those sandbags on the bridge with a pistol in my hand and shoot at the tank ;D
What's so bad about Ramelle Neuville? Rename it Ste mere Eglise or something and it's not so ahistoric afterall.
lol no... that town and battle scenario looks totally different,. Ramelle is unique, hmmm there is a reason why it can't be renamed any other town either.... hmmm... *biting tongue* :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Neuville-au-Plain.
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How about 'Remelle Deuxville' - as in it's Ramelle Neuville part deux?
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just want to know...any news for sp map? bot new or repair from the last
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winterhilf is dedicated SP DEV, he joined th team short before the 2.2 release so not every map got SP support but next release should be better.